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 No.194691[Last 50 Posts]

Posted it in another thread but I feel it deserves it's own thread because of the subject matter.

>Wizards, and social retards/reclusives/outcasts, are a dying breed. It took me a while to figure that out, I don't know if we're being breed out OR that the modern state of the internet has opened all doors for self-improvement and congregation for people who would be us (I think it's the latter). Cos on 4chan people are always complaining that "reddit is leaking" or "it's so reddit in here", it's not. It's that the "zoomers" that have replaced us, come from a much more socially inclined background by default and most, if not all, of internet (and geek) culture has seeped into the mainstream.


>Those of us that did not fully commit to a fandom or a passion, are now left with no real identity. I think in a certain sense it's a lot harder to be a loner now, like, you can have a giant anime figurine collection but the internet these days will always remind you that there are other people who also have the same hobby, but are enjoying with other people who take it to different places they wouldn't have dreamed of on their own. Basically reminding you that *your* giant anime figurine collection are just lumps of shaped plastic.


Turn 30 this year, and it feels like it's the worst era to become a wizard. But on the flip side (and maybe it's some sort of underlying mental illness) I've been feeling upbeat for the last 2 weeks cos it feels like there's nothing left to lose now.

 No.194693

If you're a wizard I don't see why you'd be concerned with what other people do or what hobbies they have, leave that shit to the wannabe-unique snowflakes. I'm sure as fuck not gonna actively avoid having fun just because at the same time somewhere some norms are having fun doing the same thing.

 No.194695

>>194693
Great post, friendo, really added something positive to the community.

Believe it or not, not everyone fits your own template.

>>194691
Turning 30 feels like you're finally an adult, with that perfect youth long gone and never to return. It's not a nice feeling for quite a long time - months and months until you realise that this is the real part of your life where you can start acting upon your wisdom, your skills and not have all the youthful time-wasting get in the way. Of course, everything is a waste of time if you look at it from different perspectives.

 No.194696

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>you can have a giant anime figurine collection but the internet these days will always remind you that there are other people who also have the same hobby, but are enjoying with other people who take it to different places they wouldn't have dreamed of on their own. Basically reminding you that *your* giant anime figurine collection are just lumps of shaped plastic.
>but are enjoying with other people who take it to different places they wouldn't have dreamed of on their own.

Are they talking about those mainstream ""weebs"" who go to anime cons in the west and post on twitter daily? Fucking christ has this person ever sat down to see what these people do? They pick up some mainstream anime that's trending on the front page, and post some "hilarious" meme or regurgitate phrases like a literal autist, then their friends jump in with the same phrases that's been said a million times and rinse and repeat. If they do have discussions, its just praising the game, anime, etc. Finding stupid "deep" shit or "funny" moments and the other person(s) agreeing like a zombie. I think I've never seen anyone argue or debate one another in recent years, because I would be too sick to read the entire circle-jerk post.

Further more, they're passion-less dipshits who are just following a trend. They don't actually care about anime or nerd culture. And if there are a few in the group that DO care, they're fucked because 99% of internet forums now a days are hugboxes that bans people for something as small as "inappropriate language".

Ironic weebs, twitterfags, whatever you call them, I'd rather be alone than to have to interact with these roaches daily.

 No.194701

If you are a late 20s to early 30s NEET/hikki/loser/virgin who was involved with "internet culture" during the mid to late 2000s and very early 2010s then you are the last of your kind.

You were probably in your late adolescence when the economy was shit and we had around 10 percent unemployment. This means you were unable to get work experience during a crucial period in your life. You probably had poor social skills which limited your ability to form relationships. If you were on the internet during your early teenage years you were likely considered a loser because of how not-mainstream internet usage was. You may have had trouble fitting in to a certain community as well. This is why you are here (Wizchan) as a boomer loser.

Zoomers (mid to late adolescence) today don't have problems with unemployment because of how well the economy is doing. They have greater social skills than us because of how ubiquitous communication platforms like Twitter and Discord are. Anyone can find a community to fit into now because of how accessible everything is these days.

It is extremely unlikely that zoomers will ever grow to become late 20s/early 30s NEET-types like most on this site are. Nobody goes from being a well adjusted person to becoming a recluse/hikki.

 No.194703

>>194693
>I'm sure as fuck not gonna actively avoid having fun just because at the same time somewhere some norms are having fun doing the same thing.
I'm not saying to avoid it, I'm just saying we're the last ones of our kind.

>>194696
>fake geeks
The line between fake and real geeks has been obliterated with wikias, youtube, streaming and easy access internet as a whole. Sure you can assume a lot of the older people (in their 40s and 50s) are bandwagoning but I don't think the younger generations are faking it and possibly that it's actually integral to their upbringing, like it was to ours.

>>194695
>perfect youth
I've been depressed for a long time, but for the past few years I've been specifically depressed for missing out on a decent youth because I realized that the place I grew up and the people that populated were mostly shit that it clouded my view of what people were. Now after finally leaving that place and hitting what might be the rock bottom, I'm starting to see people with less defensiveness and hostility, and life with more positivity. (Or it could be brain damage. I don't know.)

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>>194706
No doubt that it's a good thing for the new generations.

It's just, what happens to the remaining wizards?

 No.194710

>>194701
>Nobody goes from being a well adjusted person to becoming a recluse/hikki
I had a normal high school experience. I wasn't an outcast by any means, yet I disliked it. I absolutely detest the education system. Work is hell as well, don't get me wrong. I plan on getting on welfare as soon as I can buy a cheap house in the countryside. The people I interacted with in school and interact with now in work offered me nothing. I didn't and don't enjoy interacting with them, it's dull, boring, unpleasant, you have to watch everything you say, when you say it. You say the wrong thing at the wrong time, boom, you get that look. Evolutionary social conformity. I'm not a fan of being shaped into any shape I didn't choose. I prefer solitude, it allows me to be myself, to be free, to finally not have to conform. I can be nude, I can talk to myself aloud whenever I feel like it, I can make passionate love to my lovedoll, I can play videogames for 12 hours straight and masturbate to lolicon porn. I can smell like a sweat, I can look at my toilet spiders for hours, I am free. I need not conform to normality, that's all I want. I just want to get away from their judgement and the feelings of discomfort it causes.

What I am saying however is: I had good grades, I had normal relations with my classmates and teachers. Good prospects, I was one of the best in my class. I ended up being an honor student of the year. I was the only one of the entire class however to not go to Uni. I lied to everyone with a smile on my face about getting some time to search for what I want to do yadayada. In reality I'm grinding as many shekels in the shortest time possible to be able to retire as a hermit. All I want from life is to be at peace, live a tranquil solitary life, grow potatoes and enjoy the few pleasures I still find interesting.

 No.194713

>>194706
I'm schizoid, so sitting at home with no social interaction at all, just consuming media and endulging in escapism is heaven for me. Only crabs think that being a wizard is bad.

 No.194715

No I think is the best era to be a wizard

I can sit at home and consume endless entertainment and games

Just have to deal with loud stupid breeders(parents) and crabs, but I crush both of them

 No.194716

>>194713
>>194715
Those who want to be alone, will be alone but I don't think most wizards ended up being wizards purely through choice.

 No.194717

>>194716
I don't think I ended up in this world by choice either so what's your point

 No.194718

>>194701
The audience of this website is definitely younger than you say. And what about the entire second and third world? Economies are always turbulent, though I think it's the stability that facilitates reclusion.

>>194710
I watch spiders too, they're nice but I'm afraid at the same time.

 No.194720

>>194718
>The audience of this website is definitely younger than you say.
I find it kind of odd that while I can't find (many) other late 20s/early 30s anons on any imageboards, wizchan hasn't increased in population (it's arguable that most anons here are in their teens or early 20s LARP'ing as wizards). What do you suppose happened to the rest of the social outcasts our age?

 No.194731

>>194720
Work, transport, hobbies, media, chores and sleep. The sleep especially. Few know of here, fewer want to spend the little time we have on arguments. Most posts are bait, sex and alt-right propaganda, it's usually a boring read, though exceptions happen.

 No.194752

>>194691

Norman Army has acquired most of the hobbies once belonged to the outcasts breed's identity.

Normans are always trying to show themselves as special ones, it was just a matter of time until one of them find out that "nerds" and "losers" stand out within a massive norman pack. Everything after that were just a consequence from their exhibitionist nature.

I have no reasons to care about their shit. I won't stop watching hentai because now normans are publishing pics with hentai figures on social networks. They do that to get attenction for their megalomanic narcisist ego, I on the other hand just enjoy watching this stuff.

In a few years they'll find another style to spam, so if you're still willing to care about "band identity", don't worry.

 No.194766

>>194752
>In a few years they'll find another style to spam
They said that in 2008. They are 11 years deep now. I think our time is up.

Here's a slightly outdated copypasta that appears on 4chan when /pol/ overran the site for a while:
>I guess this is aimed at older anons late 20s or older, but I've been wondering for the longest time why each batch of newfags since 2012 have become more hostile, more bitter, more repetitive, more delusional (somehow they have both grandiose and negative views of themselves), more humourless with each passing year. And I've come to the conclusion that classic underdog outcast nerd is dead. With geek (among most other subcultures) merging with the mainstream and this being the safe space no-bully generation, almost everyone is catered for, so to be an outcast Gen Z teenager *now* you'd have to be a completely unlikeable, humourless arsehole.

 No.194767

>>194766
Sounds like a prompt for an oldfag clique circlejerk. Nothing to do with outcasts or generation Z.

 No.194769

>>194766
Each generation berates the next one.

>>194752
>I on the other hand just enjoy watching this stuff.
Yeah, that comment everyone has to make to protect their taste-identity, as if it was stolen. First, it wasn't yours to begin with, second, it's nothing to be proud of, third, it can't be taken away from you.

The sooner you stop trying to value yourself with such delusions the better you'll feel really.

 No.194773

>>194752
>I won't stop watching hentai because now normans are publishing pics with hentai figures on social networks.

Does anyone have this dark unsettled feeling in their stomach that entire world is becoming juvenile and pleasure-seeking for the sake of pleasure?

I don't know how to articulate it without coming across as a religious nut.

 No.194776

>>194773
I actually appreciate normies as a whole embracing hedonism like this, humanizes them for me a bit.

 No.194777

>>194769

>First, it wasn't yours to begin with


I've never said it was MINE, I said it was part of the breed's identity and it ended up being linked to other norman groups, ocasionally losing its uniqueness, but never stolen.

>second, it's nothing to be proud of


Why can't I be proud that I do my hobby with more maestry than others?

I think you misunderstood what I was saying, I wasn't crying about how my hobbies were stolen by normies but that's ok because I started liking those things first. I've even said on my post that I don't give shit about them doing the same thing I do, in the end I just confirmed a fact: I do them bettter because I LIKE that stuff and I'm not trying to get attention.

Normans don't like hentai, anime, rpg, etc, they only enjoy being on spotlight, that's their hobbie and it changes every fucking month. Non-norman people likes a hobbie, and keep doing them for a long time, acquiring experience and improving themselves, so yeah technically they're better on that them normans.

 No.194779

>>194777
Question. How are you doing hentai better than someone?

 No.194783

>>194776
>humanizes them for me a bit.
How so? It unsettles me. I don't know if they're doing it out of their own violation or they're bandwagoning on internet trends they don't understand. I don't know which unnerves me the most.

>>194777
>fake geek
We already went over this.

 No.194784

>>194778
When I said era, I meant this decade.

 No.194792

>Wizards, and social retards/reclusives/outcasts, are a dying breed.
Do you have any facts to back that up?

 No.194794

>>194792
Just circumstantial evidence.

 No.194796

>>194691
this is just plain wrong and it's the usual golden age syndrome that has characterized this board (and many other imageboards) since its inception at the expense of being factually accurate.

> It took me a while to figure that out, I don't know if we're being breed out OR that the modern state of the internet has opened all doors for self-improvement and congregation for people who would be us (I think it's the latter)

the hikikomori phenomenon - and clearly hikikomori and wizards are two extremely overlapping demographics- is booming not only in japan and east asia, but in the western world as well

> worst time to be a wizard

technology is an endless source of escapism, it's indeed the best time to be a wizard/shut-in. the fact that most of us are still depressed despite that doesn't imply that we're not living in the most optimal timeline for our reclusive condition. as a thought experiment, try living in an era before internet and videogames and if you got an ounce of intellectual honesty, you'd envision a much more dreadful misery than what you're actually bearing right now.

 No.194801

>>194796
>the hikikomori phenomenon - and clearly hikikomori and wizards are two extremely overlapping demographics- is booming not only in japan and east asia, but in the western world as well
How? Every imageboard and niche fandom I look into, everybody seems to be meeting up and/or fucking. I keep hearing about how "the whole world" is becoming reclusive, but why aren't the forums (in general) filling back up again?

 No.194802

>>194801
When were forums and fandoms ever filled with hikkis and wizards?

 No.194804

>>194715
>endless

modern media is trash and backlog is thinning.

>>194720
I feel we lost of great people with the dead of previous wizchan. seems to me they didnt bother to come back

 No.194807

>>194801
Forums are dead. Now is the time of instant messaging. Especially when it comes to shut-ins, who usually escape through online games, which require instant communication between players.
I miss forums too. They are like museums now. People who used to post have aged and moved on, or establish chatrooms for themselves; younger people are not interested in this. I'm glad that at least irc have survived up to now.
Now I'm sad, look what you have done.

 No.194808

>>194804
> modern media is trash
You have a choice of older titles, no one's forcing you to watch fucking netflix anime adaptations.

 No.194810

>>194804
Modern media is alright, and the backlog will last for years to come. To watch all the existing interesting stuff, average lifetime isn't enough.

 No.194828

>>194807
>Now I'm sad, look what you have done.
I genuinely wouldn't know what to do if all the imageboards and few forums I visited slowed to a crawl or died. Aside from my parents I don't have contact with other people, especially since I've lost my shitty wageslave job.

 No.194832

>>194828
How do you find the willpower and attention span to browse more than one imageboard?

 No.194842

>>194810
not for me unfortunately.

 No.194843

>>194832
Not really hard these days when they're barely faster than wizchan.

4chan (and a very distant second 8ch) is the only imageboard that is visibly active and even that place has experienced a noticeable slowdown in posts.

 No.194893

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>>194691
>fandom
Speaking of fandoms, is anyone else finding it difficult to gauge just how out of touch they are with the rest of society through the lens of fandoms and social media?

I've fallen down the porn rabbit hole pretty far to fursuit porn (among other things), and in my search for fursuit porn I've been going through various furry social media accounts and to be honest they're like regular social accounts with fursuits sandwiched between normal posts. I can't tell if the furries are now mainstream, or if normies have gone into the fandom or if I'm so out of touch with society that furries look normal to me.

 No.194895

>>194893
>I'm so out of touch with society that furries look normal to me.

It's hard to draw the line on what normal is these days. I wouldn't say furries are normal though. I wouldn't even say that bronies are normal and they're more normal-ish I guess? I mean there're millions of male virgins over 40 out there but nobody would say that's normal, so furries are not normal either by that standard.

 No.194897

>>194895
Bronies were a humongous fad earlier this decade, I think they were already dead by 2015. The ones that stuck around to these days, I wouldn't consider normal.
>>194893
As for furries, that's a huge fandom but among them are a lot of young people with social lives. Furshit in it of itself is a huge sex thing for a lot of them. It's almost safe to assume that two furries that have talked to each other have also been inside each other.

 No.194899

>>194895
>but nobody would say that's normal, so furries are not normal either by that standard.
Probably by *that* specific standard no, but judging by these social media accounts most of them have social lives where if they dropped the furry thing they'd slide into normal life pretty easily.

But like like you said it's hard to draw a line on what's normal these days, so even if they didn't drop it they'd still fit into normality.

>>194897
>but among them are a lot of young people with social lives.
What's starting to terrify me is that the geeks have become opaque to me. Being a socially isolated kid/teen growing up, I never really understood what my normalfag peers did in their free time (I never had any nerd friends or knew any growing up), so they were like a blackbox to me, they did "something cool" and I sat at home playing video games and lurking on forums. Now it feels like either the geeks have cracked the blackbox code or they've become their own blackbox to me.

I feel so detached from anything these days.

 No.194901

>>194899
>Now it feels like either the geeks have cracked the blackbox code or they've become their own blackbox to me
geeks/nerds/whatever have always just been another alternative group of normals. If you were an isolated loner kid then you are beyond any of those labels.

 No.194904

>>194901
> If you were an isolated loner kid then you are beyond any of those labels.

You know, I often wonder how many of my problems were the result of a crappy dice roll and how many problems are on me.

 No.194913

>>194904
What does it matter when you were also a crappy dice roll?

 No.194916

>>194913
First of all, that hurts and secondly I don't think it matters *as* much if you have a decent support group behind. All those weird-ass fandoms back in the days were mostly comprised of weirdos and those weirdos were able to fix each other. I mean, look again at the furries. 10-15 years ago they were on tv as some sex weirds, now they're inches away from mainstream recognition.

 No.194940

>>194703
>I don't think the younger generations are faking it and possibly that it's actually integral to their upbringing, like it was to ours
Hey, 19 yo wizkid here and I can confirm this isn't true. The normalfags at my highschool didn't like anime and the ones that did were the alt-normans. In fact I vividly remember people looking at me strange for bringing manga books to school. It wasn't until around 2016/2017 that normans began watching anime (or at least claiming to) because they wanted to fit in with the mainstream.
Same goes with memes and internet culture as a whole. I made references to some internet memes during school hours, and even the outcasts I hung out with had no idea what I was talking about. But now, you have to post the latest meme to twitter or you're not "with it" (not to mention that most memes nowadays suck). So no, my generation didn't grow up with internet culture, they merely hijacked it.

 No.194945

The answer is simple - social outcasts are literally dying off, or being placed in situations where they don't have an internet connection to be visible in any meaningful way.
I've seen it happen, someone winds up in prison, or a group home, and that's the last you see of them. I imagine there are even worse cases where people are straight up killed. This almost happened to me a few years ago when I had a run in with a social worker. I had to go through quite a bit to keep a roof over my head, let alone my freedom.

I'm in a very fortunate position compared to most NEETbux recipients, so I might be one of the last to go. A few have seen what is coming and have gone to great lengths to get off the system, and I'm hoping I can do that soon myself, now that my mother is dead and I no longer feel an obligation to stick it out on NEETbux for her sake.

The younger generation simply doesn't have the option of going on bux and most of them are quickly killed off. I've heard horror stories of undesirables being killed off in foster care, and that probably would have been my fate had it happened to me then (which was threatened multiple times). Not only that, but if a family is known to have an autist, they really like to damage all of the children in that family, so because of me my brothers and my sister might have been thrown into a similar predicament, even though my brother is normal and successful now.

We really do live in a Nazified world now. It's too late, and it's happening first in slow motion. I wouldn't be surprised if ten years from now, there isn't any disability, and the exterminations are carried out more openly and violently. Certainly the population seems to be psychologically conditioned to accept this sort of thing, that's why the ultraviolent narratives in media praising and glorifying the most senseless of war crimes ("beautiful beautiful missiles" coming out of MSNBC when the US military commits a blatant war crime, for example; it used to be that the news had enough decency to not advertise being ridiculously evil, now they revel in it).

 No.194947

>>194945
I know it's you, alwayslate. How did you end up in this place?

 No.194949

>>194947
He was on time for once

 No.194955

>>194945
Wtf are you talking about. None of that makes any sense. If that was serious you shouldn't be given an internet connection so others aren't bothered by your incoherent dream conceptions you call reality.

 No.194974

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>>194967
>Also fuck you. You have, AT LEAST, 6 years to course-correct your life. Do not waste what has been given to you.
but why tho?
>not telling him to make good use of those 6 years and become a chad-wizzie by saving all his money and becoming a master of some skill so that he puts norms to shame with his godlike powers of whatever he wants to do.

you act like being a wizard is a bad thing, when in reality it is liberating in that you can pursue whatever you want unhindered by norms and their relationships. Become a pilot, or a poet, a writer or a fire fighter. Wizardom is not a curse but a blessing. Like what you want to like and hate what you want to hate… do not become stigmatized into thinking you NEED to cram yourself into some social isolation corner. If you want to be upset that people have appropriated yur interests, you are no better than a nu-male hipster who listened to all those indie rock bands before they were cool. Stop crying and be a Wizard about it.

 No.194995

>>194974
>but why tho?
Because it irritates me and probably other older anons and wizards watching youngfags waste potential. I mean, you have more than enough time to be a miserable bastard later on.

The second half of your post is useful though, and I wish I had been given that advice when I was in my early teens.

 No.194997

>>194955
Hello FBI

I don't get why people feel the need to feign ignorance on the internet this much. You're trying to tell me that not a single person in the whole world has been abused by the system, that no one whatsoever hasn't been imprisoned improperly, that no one winds up institutionalized? All I have to do is look at a statistical trend to see that more and more often, social outcasts are systematically pushed out of either polite society, or life entirely, primarily due to economic forces rather than any malicious agenda per se. No one can seriously contest that it's a lot harder to get on bux now than it was 15, 20 years ago, because we have explicit rulings and policy changes pointing to exactly that, to the point that a social outcast coming out of the school system really has no life, not even the meager life an outcast could have in my day.

The primary cause though is that fewer social outcasts reach the point where they would be outcasts in the first place, because they either aren't born or they are exposed early (that's what the "hunt for autism" and similar screening initiatives were about). When the general public is trained to hate the outcast with such revulsion that wasn't imaginable for any previous generation - and it's not like humanity in its normal state is tolerant and kind - it denies the outcast even the meager life that a bux recipient could have. (For what it's worth, the attitude towards bux recipients has worsened in general. I remember back in 2015 NPR tried to rev up some hate in their middle-class base against the bux recipients, and had it succeeded we would have heard all about it in 2016, but there was a backlash and we all know what happened.)

 No.195006

>>194998
25 is the end yes

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>>194998
Again maybe it's the onset of a mental illness but maybe it's not too late. At this point what is stopping you from what you think is success?

 No.195015

>>194997
Stop being so obsessed about extreme cases and start seeing reality like it is. That's the only advice I can give ya.

 No.195016

>>194997
>>195015
Actually no, I am even diagnosed with autism but you are far beyond it. I declare that you are a dangerous person to have on wizchan and appeal to the mods to have you perma banned before someone actually starts believing your fantastic posts.

 No.195475

>>194691
I find it really unsettling that all the wizards and older social retards/outcasts have seemingly vanished off the face of the earth, both offline and online.

>>194893
>Furries
Did we fall below the furries or did they rise above us?

 No.195480

The second paragraph of the OP is not relatable to me at all. It's implying that i want to associate myself with the others by default. I am committed to anime, manga and other certain aspects of the Japanese culture for the last ~25 years but not even once i wanted to be a part of so-called "weaboos", especially the modern version of them, and those who post on imageboards. 99%of them are obnoxious porn addicts with no real interest in the subject, i don't even talk about respect for the characters (most of them would laugh if i said that on some anime "discussion" board). To be honest, i despise these people and have nothing in common with them. And that hypothetical 1% which i had a pleasure to meet on different imageboards are still strangers. I don't understand why OP claims that i should devalueate things i love just because i don't take part in some social activities. Also it's not 2004-2006 anymore when you could post something and first replies would be passionate and positive instead of some braindead ironic idiot telling you to kill yourself for whatever reason.

 No.195643

>>195475
>I find it really unsettling that all the wizards and older social retards/outcasts have seemingly vanished off the face of the earth, both offline and online.

I wonder the same. From what I've seen, a lot of them are retreating into deeper and deeper seclusion.

 No.195645

It was always like this, online recluses are the exception not the norm.

 No.195649

>>195475
>>195643
I reckon many of them have either gone borderline catatonic, died of health issues or simply killed themselves. Early deaths by stroke of suicide are our fate.

 No.195654

>>195649
>>195643
Where have you seen wizards before? This place is the only one I've ever known to host such a crowd.

 No.195674

>>195480

>Also it's not 2004-2006 anymore when you could post something and first replies would be passionate and positive instead of some braindead ironic idiot telling you to kill yourself for whatever reason.


When the braindead ""ironic"" idiot NPC gets called out, he/she will go use any variant of "it's just a prank, bro" on cue. Add the "cringe" pages/subreddits/Discords into this fuckery and we see this damned mess today. I can't even enjoy anime without some NPC fuckhead going in to abuse me only to hide behind "muh "jokes"" defense whenever he/she gets rightly called out.

 No.195678

>>195674
Dedicated and genuine fan wouldn't doubt his enjoyement just because some underage retards shitposting and turn everything into a laughing stock. But then again no one older 16 would use "NPC" in my opinion.

 No.195679

>>195678
why? it's a good meme to label normals. You're just a butthurt contrarian or a leftist.

 No.195680

>>195679
Its both an outsider meme and a wojak meme.
Keep that shit off the site and use norman if you must make a butthurt post in vain of regular people.

 No.195682

>>195679
I'm neither and you're and underage normalfag from 4chan/pol/

 No.195684

>>195679
You make it too easy to spot your origins.

 No.195705

>>195679
No. He just isn't from 4cucks.

 No.195706

There's definitely very little or indeed nothing to lose. As for wizards, I believe there will always be a minority of people who identify with wizardom, and then a larger percentage who relate somewhat to living as a hermit etc. The internet has allowed us all to communicate in the same place, something in previous ages reserved to books etc (feeling like you've found a friend in a character or novelist). But even here it's clear that the benign, wise wizard is just a myth, as there's plenty of infighting and viciousness here. Ultimately I'd recommend looking after yourself, being good to others when you're forced to be around them, and waiting patiently for death.

 No.195749

>>195654
It wasn't really that hard to bump in wizards and social retards/outcasts online back in the early 00s.

 No.195759

>>195749
But where? I got dialup in 2002 and never bumped into anyone least bit similar.

 No.195779

>>195759
If you're talking about people actively going for that wizard lifestyle then weren't that many, but there were many who were heading in that direction.

 No.195780

>>195779
>where

 No.195784

>>195780
Everywhere back when back when there where multiple dedicated fansites of various (usually nerd/geek) media and hobbies could exist.

Didn't you go on the forums of whatever thing you were interested in back then?

 No.195785

>>195784
Geeks and nerds usually got hostile and ridiculing when they realized that I wasn't joking about preferring being alone or rejecting and avoiding attention, and that I didn't have their dedication or IQ.

 No.195812

>>195678

I just want to enjoy my hobbies without being treated as a threat to the human race by butthurt normshits.

 No.195813

>>195812
Then enjoy without looking for their validation. I have to wonder where and what do you post to get such reactions.

 No.195814

>>195812
>I just want to enjoy my hobbies without being treated as a threat to the human race by butthurt normshits.
You have to be in your teens if you think anyone actually gives a shit about your antics.

 No.195815

>>195785
Yeah well, most wizards have wizardry thrust upon them, so I'm not sure what you were expecting.

 No.195816

>>195812
This
I just want to stare at abused children in public

 No.195817

>>194720
>(it's arguable that most anons here are in their teens or early 20s LARP'ing as wizards)
can confirm

 No.195820

>>194720
wizzed themselves

 No.195824

>>194720
One benefit of getting older is that you can honestly believe that there is nothing for you in society and completely discount society. When you're young it's a bit harder as you're still on the fence in a society that undermines your autonomy to claim you're not like them. With enough experience you can turn away entirely and focus on train simulator games in peace knowing there is no place for you in the world, and, no need to interact with it.

 No.195825

>>195824
nah most wizards under 20 already believe this. Get with the times, wizardly has never been so better.

 No.195827

>>195825
Who are you trying to "troll" here?

 No.195829

>>195825
>nah most wizards under 20 already believe this.
They're not wizards at that point, just whiny babies.

 No.195830

>>195827
>>195826
>h-hey my age means shit,respect me, didn't you know I used to love females so much and wanted to fit in society so much when I was young? You're larping if you're not like me
wizboomer train of thought right here

 No.195831

>>195828
Looks like I didn't see through your brilliant irony. But nothing can be done about this.

 No.195832

>>195830
Who are you quoting exactly? What the fuck are you even trying to say?

 No.195833

>>195832
Well he is saying young people who wants to be wizards are just going on a phase which implies at that age hes not a wizard and would choose not to be a wizard of given the chance. Wizboomers are so hilariously stupid.

 No.195834

>>195829
30 year-old a are also wizbabies to 40 year olds if we follow your thought.

 No.195836

>>195833
But they are. There are so many "crabs", "outcasts", "apprentices" etc in their teens and early 20s and yet there are fewer actual wizards than ever before.

 No.195837

>>195836
So what? There's an even more crabs in their 30s and 50s. Stop being silly, growing old isn't an achievement oh wait you believe it's an achievement too because you're a boomer right?

 No.195838

Accidentally replied to some 4shit clown ITT.

 No.195839

>>195837
You know what? You win.

 No.195840

>>195838

That's what old 30 year old boomer brains do, accidental replies and stupid opinion about almost everything.

 No.195849

>>195815
Understanding maybe? They were no wizards but reddit people before reddit.

 No.195911

Third world wizards like myself have it hard because we have only few choices to make money and survive. I will be a researcher because it's safe for some 33 yo virgin have peace to work in such environment where I ignore succubi and focus on my research.
All other wizards I know are blue collar workers like welders or mechanics around 38yo and the legendary Arch Wizard of 55 yo that have severe Asperger's and only care about his job and his hobbies.

I think with 46 yo I will be guy with doctorate giving few classes and making money enough to survive the third world hell I live.

 No.196019

Suicide rates have been increasing. Furthermore the chronic homeless are usually wizards. Instead of putting people into mental institutions we just throw them in prison. Many wizards turn to drugs and overdose in some crackhouse somewhere. Used to see more on the internet but the normies invaded and now Wizards are being booted and ostracized from communities they fucking helped to make. Wizardchan is no exception I have seen in anxiety threads people unironically advocating for forced socialization to fix those people. 4chan has mostly been purged as well. Now that ISP's can do what they want its only a matter of time until places like this are banned in the USA at least. It will be seen as an evil misogynistic crab community and that will be that.

Society is doing everything it can to push people out. Lets not forget that social security is going to run out of money and you can bet your ass the people on SSD are going to be some of the first kicked off. Disabled people have little power and representation while old boomers have plenty.

 No.196022

>>196019
On the chronically homeless, I definitely agree. I work with the homeless and once met a man who used Linux and carried around a laptop. I'm almost certain he frequented Chans. Sadly someone stole his laptop. But it convinced me there are wizards among the homeless.

 No.196042

>>195480
I agree.
Especially that part about respect for the characters.
I've just been feeling really shit lately but this post just cheered me up a bit, thanks.

 No.196046

>>196042
Glad to know. But my point of view left me with no place to talk about things I enjoy at all, so I hope it's not the reason of your condition. Because it can be very frustrating even if you got used to it.

 No.196065

The world is clearly not meant for our kind so maybe it's better this way?

 No.196066

>>195837
Do you feel accomplished now?

 No.196075

Nope. Wizardry is growing exponentially. It will only stop when wars make it stop. Too much decadence and peace is creating more and more wizards.

 No.196081

>>196065
I know I wish I was more of a normalfag back in highschool.

 No.196132

>>196022
>I'm almost certain he frequented Chans.
What makes you say that?

 No.196247

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>>195643
As the internet has become more mainstream it's slowly been taken over by the masses many of us came here to avoid in the first place. And with them a change in culture. No longer a haven for nerds, recluses and misfits in general where we could interact on our terms, as the web became normified all the ills of real life interaction have followed suit. Gossip, popularity contests and cliques matter most in the age of social media. Soon there will be no place for atypicals as social networks kill off all small communities. Funnily enough, the internet today is a lonelier place than ever before for this reason The outcast haven of yore is no longer, and there never will be another like the days before Facebook…

 No.196263

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>>196247
>No longer a haven for nerds, recluses and misfits in general where we could interact on our terms

I'm telling you dude, we are the last ones of our kind. Everyone after us, except the severely mentally ill and isolated, has a place now.

Those wizards aiming for a legitimately hermetic lifestyle will achieve it but I don't think the vast, VAST majority of wizards here were actually aiming for it.

 No.196265

>>196263
I'm aiming on becoming an eceleb like the truwizard I am

 No.196335

>>196265
There much clamour for an e-celeb wizard?

 No.196346

>>196263
>hermetic lifestyle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism

I assume you meant hermitic?

 No.196347

>>196346
He meant kermitic.

 No.196353

>>196346
>I assume you meant hermitic?
Yeah.

I think most apprentices here aren't genuine.

 No.196507

I've noticed that there's a big ass clash on wizchan not too different from the subtle one on 4chan.

 No.196509

>>196508
What made you think you can post this here?

 No.196510

>>196508
There better be wizwomen and alcohol there

 No.196511

>>196508
Fuck off gunjy.

 No.196512

>>196508
Opened the link when it was just posted to see user count: 38 users online. 15 minutes after being poster: 50 users online.
Who's browsing this imageboard?

 No.196518

>>196508
Time to get on wizcord and wiztalk about being a wizwizard

 No.196521

>>196518
>>196512
larpers and hipsters. It lends credence to my viewpoint that we're at the end of wizards.

 No.196522

>>196508
Lmao that was very quick lol

 No.196546


 No.196547

>>196546
Wiz chat for socially extroverted wizzies

 No.196548

>>196546
You can't see it? Only true wizards can see some posts as it seems. I like this new feature.

 No.196551

>>196547
More like r9k/soc festering pot with failed normalfags, druggies and trannies. The owner isn't even a virgin but some australian guy that used to be a drug dealer and fuck prostitutes.

 No.196553

>>196551
This is disgusting but how do you know?

 No.196554

>>196553
because im le gunjy and they all say im a normie yet I cant leave my house etc

 No.196558

>>196554
>say im a normie yet I cant leave my house
How does not leaving your house make you a wizard?

 No.196614

>>196613
Please ban this faggot. He might not be a normie, but he’s certainly not a wizard, and not the kind of person we want shitting up our board with jewcord server invites.

 No.196615

>>196614
What do you feel knowing that there's an official Wizchan discord (Wizcord) where Wizards discuss posts they see here and make fun of them?

 No.196618

>>196615
There is a Jewish mod clique that uses alien spaceships to read your minds and make fun of of your thoughts.

 No.196619

>>196615
Post screencaps then. I’ve checked it out a few times and never saw any making fun of posts. Stop trying to create panic.

 No.196656


>>196263

That's impossible, you are born a wizard. I could meet a group that literally has everthing I wanted in a group and still wouldn't give half a fuck.

When I grew up people tried hard to force me into groups and I always told them to fuck off, I relucantly joined the most laid back/loser like group and acted like I cared about them while in truth I never did, and that's what I did with every single human being I ever met outside of family.

Because I detest the very concept of grouping and socializing. I highly believe there are people out there like me that also aren't losers who don't socialize because they can't fit in on are scared of others people.

I don't join group or socialize because I never cared about it. Call me a Sigma male or a Wizard but that's how I roll. Sure some fake wizards suddenly become social butterflies in the right groups but that's pretty rare.

I only see my family has people I need to meet, otherwise I am pure hermit outside of work. I am amiable and polite to everyone else I meet providing they show respect, if they don't they are dead to me and that includes a lot of people.

 No.196660

>>196656

>whole post is about HIM not being a loser because HE is truwiz volcel.


everyfuckintime. Don't you get tired of doing this?

 No.196668

>>196660

I'm a truwiz volcel too and I don't give a single fuck about it. Nobody is gonna call me a loser because I'm one, they don't deserve to do it, normies are beneath wizards and that's reality.

Why should you feel bad about being a truwiz volcel? Who the fuck decided that it was a bad thing? That's you guys and society in general but that's not how I roll. Fuck society and fuck everyone else.

 No.196672

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>>196668
>truwiz

 No.196675

>>196656
>>196668
>I-i-i'm a wizard, and I d-d-don't need anyone! I'm so c-c-cool. I place myself above normies despite always hanging out with the losers at the bottom of the social ladder!
When your angsty phase passes, you'll understand the error of your ways. By placing yourself above or below other people, you become a slave to the social hierarchy. You can't say "I don't care about other people thinking that I'm a loser" and "fuck society and everyone else" at the same time. also talking about how you hate socializing is pretty dumb lol. Nigga, just don't talk lmao.

 No.196682

>>196668
YIKES
I
K
E
S

 No.196683

>>196668
loser.

 No.196684

Some posts look like a parody recently.

 No.196686

>>196675

I don't hang out with anyone, I did it in my school days.

I don't care about the social hierarchy, I said that shit to cheer up the losers who actually care about what people think of them, AKA so called wizards who won't stop whining about how bad they have it. Because clearly this guy cares in some way or another that he is a truwiz crab.

Sorry but if you like society you are part of the problem. I don't care about it but I WOULD care about it if it made sense. So fuck it.

 No.196693

>>196686
You need to be a virgin to post here.

 No.196702

>>196686
>I don't care about it but I WOULD care about it if it made sense.
lolwut. Most of the stuff is intuitive because you're a human being, and society consists of, well, humans. If you're autistic or something you could read some psychology or sociology books.

 No.196725

I feel like its not just wizards but everything non bending to conformity opinions.

 No.196727

>>196656
>>196668
>truwiz

Jesus Christ.

 No.196729

>>196693

I am, not letting it get me down altough. In 3 years I will reach wizardhood and I highly doubt I'll be getting laid sooner or later. I have the true proven wizard aura where people "get" that I'm not like them and they keep their distance and look in fear or disgust.

I just don't have the defeatist attitude most wizards have. I will never care about being like other people or being liked by them.

 No.196730

>>196702

I'm interested in how society works but I will never acknowledge feelings, emotions and the whole subcommunication angle. If people don't want me then I don't care. I will never respond emotionally, they will get total void or a blank stare, up to them to understand my intentions, I don't give a fuck.

I use logic and light heartedness to communicate, I will never use feelings or trying to relate to other people and if I do will do the bare minimum.

As long as I can keep my job that's enough. If that's autistic then cool I don't care, categorizing people is for normies, let them create their cool categories, I care about me and not society and how they see me.

Sociology and psychology is interesting because it can help you in real life but I've tried everything as a teenager and can't be bothered to try anymore. I'm content with being the invisible forever alone drone guy. I've accepted it and live as good as I can on it.

Meditation allows me to reach happiness and calm states that are impossible to reach through other people anyways. Having them would be nice I guess but at this point it's just a plus, not worth basing my entire self worth on.

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>>196729
> I have the true proven wizard aura where people "get" that I'm not like them and they keep their distance and look in fear or disgust.

 No.196732

>>196686
>>196656
>>196668
>>196730
>I've tried everything as a teenager and can't be bothered to try anymore. I'm content with being the invisible forever alone drone guy. I've accepted it and live as good as I can on it.
>truwiz volcel
something doesn't add up. Sounds as if in your earlier days you desired socializing, friendships and company of others, but when being unable to get them, you just settled with your solitude and no you're pretending how happy you are and how you never wanted anybody's company, while in your heart you're still a failed norman

 No.196733

>>196732

Back when I was a teenager I did not know wizardy was a thing, as in just being myself.

So of course I tried to do what everyone else was doing to try to fit in without even thinking about what I truly wanted to do.

I was a wizard when I started school as a kid but school tried to change me into a normie and I tried to do it because I did not know there was an alternative which was being myself.

There wasn't a 4chan when I grew up, and I couldn't speak english. I had no idea there were people like me out there so of course I tried to have a "normal" life.

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>>196729
>I have the true proven wizard aura where people "get" that I'm not like them and they keep their distance and look in fear or disgust.

 No.196739

>>196729
> I have the true proven wizard aura
Used to be called the wizard gene

 No.197273

LARPing is all that's left at this point.

 No.197498

>>196732
>people can't change
How autistic or young do you have to be to believe this?

 No.200503

>>197273
There has to be something else, this can't be it.

 No.200505

>>194777
>acquiring experience and improving themselves,

what kind of experience and improving yourself are you going to achieve watching hentai and shitty generic anime over and over?

 No.200506

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>>200505
>what kind of experience and improving yourself are you going to achieve watching hentai and shitty generic anime over and over?

 No.200508

>>200505
BUUURRRRRN!!!!!

 No.200511

>>194720
>What do you suppose happened to the rest of the social outcasts our age?
You find something else to do that doesn't involve passively reading pseudo intellectual arguments about shit like the meaning of nofap

 No.200562

You become a shut in online too

 No.200609

Imageboards are fucking over, zoomer loners go on discord or whatever, certainly not on this shit site with the schizo mod and low IQ shitholers who enforce this bizzare truewiz tyranny.
Wizchan is like some authoritarian country that is stuck in the past.

Anyway, wizards have always existed and always will exist, they may vary in numbers, quality, age but every society has outcasts.
I think zoomers are inside this social dissonance, which is practically excluding yet philosophically egalitarian, "awareness" of tism or "nerds" has increased and zoomers are more timid, with that I mean that chads really dont bully anymore, either out of their own accord or because it would disinterest females. So wizards are somewhat integrated. Then there is "mental health" which has caught a lot of them and put them on drugs or therapy or coaching. They live in a bubble that will burst at some point.

 No.200615

>>200609
>zoomer loners go on discord or whatever

i am a clueless millenial, i don´t understand discord, i see everyone mention it all over the web yet i have no idea how does everyone suddenly adopt it.

Is like that with everything, i had no idea what smartphones were about until they were already very old news, i see kids talking about instagram or snapchat, i don´t understand anything, is like they are all a hivemind that i am not connected to and never will. I would be still be using msn messenger if that was still a thing. Probably the last time ever i was up to date with what people used to socialize online.

 No.200636

Total opposite. More men are virgins now than at any other moment in the past, and this is in terms of proportion of virgin/nonvirgin as well, not just in raw number.

I am product of the digital age. All those shootings and suicides that go on these days are usually committed by men that have abandoned the system's moral values and chosen to either withdraw of fight back. Maybe 4chan might be full of normalfags these days, but the overall picture is that this current age is producing socially inept fuckups like nobodies business.

 No.201004

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>>194691
I wonder if there's some kind of light at the end of this tunnel? I mean, with no identity, there's no more attachment to things were part of that identity and with no attachments you can (somewhat) objectively watch the ruin (or merger into the monoculture) of what you used to be part of.

Society seems to be taking bizarre turns, and as a person with no real stake left in the world, it's mildly amusing and disturbing to see. Maybe I'm just hoping for the rest of the world to succumb to madness because they took from me without giving back but somehow I think the world is starting to crack.

 No.201021

What the fuck is a zoomer?

 No.201053

>>201021
It's normalfag lingo for someone born in Generation Z.

 No.201070

>>201004

the world has cracked in many times and places , no one realizes it until its centuries after the fact. Think of how long it took for the Roman Empire to disolve and how much longer it took for Europeans to realize that it actually hapened and they were a culture after the fact.

I think americans are going to have a tough time, is fun to look at it from the sidelines but a lot of the upheaval you have in recent years is just not being able to come to terms with a future were you are just another player in the world and not the one and only country that decides everything like you were in post wwII. Your new culturee forms that arise around the advance in technology is also getting to Wally levels of degeneracy, you are already distopian af, so it might be good for the rest of the world to start diverging and reacting against your influence. The corporate pressure wont end anytime soon tough, that ship sailed and pretty much all the world is screwed between silicon valley and the chinese government, both of those are marrying and the baby is a really fucked up world.

 No.201099

>>201070
Tell them more about their countries with your brilliant and UNIQUE insights and true historical claims

 No.201108

>>201070
>the world has cracked in many times and places , no one realizes it until its centuries after the fact.

I think this is new. I think the internet is turning everyone's brains into mush.

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>>194893
>I can't tell if the furries are now mainstream, or if normies have gone into the fandom or if I'm so out of touch with society that furries look normal to me.
I've been thinking about them a lot since last month since I saw a guy with a (clearly) furry t-shirt in a dead part of town with no con going on. Plus I'd never seen a furry outside of the internet. I really should have asked him what was up with the t-shirt cos it's going to bug me to no end. I even went to the same spot a week later to see if he'd show up.

On twitter these days you never seem to be more than 2 clicks away from a furry profile and on youtube you can easily run into a furry video from anything that's tangentially geek/game related.

It's so insane to see everything but YOU move forward.

 No.201126

>>201116

furries are incredibly mainstream now but only online. Kind of like anime fan art and videogames were in DA 10 years ago.

Back then most attention whores were doing Kingdom Hearts, Harry potter and hentai fan art for profits and followers, now is the same with furries on patreons.

i hate zoomers.

 No.201127

>>201108
>>201108
> think the internet is turning everyone's brains into mush.

at absolutely no point in history such a percentage of the population was even literate. In the middle ages people were throwing their shit and piss out of windows, the early industrial age was hell and at most people were drunk cattle, even educated people had only so much knowledge and shitty facts to live by.

I worry more about the fetishizing of comodities and the brave new world kind of distopia were people become manipulated by their risk aversion and proclivities to give in to pleasure and vapid stimuli, not if people are dumber today than yesterday, we have a huge amount of highly intelligent people nowadays, the problem is they are increasingly nihilistic and deppresed, even our closest generation, the boomers and gen x were a bunch of morons. Millenials are no worse, but i see the trend now i am getting older and seeing zoomers of how each step is more disensitized, more inmersed in corporate bs , astroturfing, psy ops, demoralization and less self aware of it.

 No.201137

>>201127
Let it happen, a)it's not as if we can stop it and b)fuck 'em. They've made me a non-entity.

 No.201165

>>201127
I think the argument would be that as we have empirical evidence of how human brains react to phenomena it doesn't fully understand that the mass availability of high level concepts had led to widespread scpeticism and degeneration of the human experience?

 No.201381

>>201127
>Millennials are no worse, but i see the trend now i am getting older and seeing zoomers of how each step is more desensitized, more immersed in corporate bs , astroturfing, psy ops, demoralization and less self aware of it.

Doesn't that kinda add to my point that the internet is turning people's brains (or at least the zoomers') into mush?

 No.201382

>>201381
Well Gen Z in the West surely in the first generation that has experienced almost lifelong immersion into the internet, whereas for previous generations it was either just another technology that popped up at some point, or something that was claimed as a tool for themselves during a period of maturation, an act of emancipation almost. Gen Z are the first to have operated a so called smart device even before they have been weaned off the breast.

 No.201383

>>201382
And to add, at the point that smart devices were around and accessible for most of the population the transmalformation of the internet into what we currently have had already been almost perfect.

 No.201450

>>201381

depends on what you consider mush, these kids are not dumb, a lot of 15 of 14 yr olds already know a shit ton about topics just by browsing online, they are going to leave millenials in the dust pretty quickly when they enter the job market. But as smart and skilled as they are thanks to their access to information and technology they still are incredible disociated, dellusional, have weird twisted fetishes and views on the world based around virtual reality not in actual reality and fall for any corporate shilling and ideology they see online. Its a vapid meme culture that leaves young people more jaded than 90 yr old war veterans.

 No.201826

>>196263
>we are the last ones of our kind. Everyone after us, except the severely mentally ill and isolated, has a place now.

With how interchangeable and accessible identity and hobbies are these days thanks to the internet and social media, I'm not surprised. Bitter maybe, but not surprised.

Seeing regular people wearing "stylized" anime t-shirts (even ahegao ones), people who have never shown interest in skateboarding wearing skater-wear and carrying a skateboard everywhere, middle-class "eco-warriors" who drive SUVs to work etc I've kind of come to a similar conclusion:

Identity doesn't really exist anymore or rather it doesn't mean anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if the crab thing somehow gets adopted by the mainstream.

 No.201863

>>201826

>I wouldn't be surprised if the crab thing somehow gets adopted by the mainstream.


Theres already a word for crab mentality going mainstream: Communism

 No.201874

>>201863
>There's already a word for crab mentality going mainstream: Communism

I don't think you understand what that word means.

 No.201889

>>201450
> these kids are not dumb

Some of them are though, that's the problem. Everyone likes to ignore the stupid and the ugly and the poor, but they're out there, and they're browsing the internet too, and they're becoming radicalized. Look at what's happening on 4chan's pol. The entire group is going literally insane, but it's all an effort to keep themselves mentally afloat, many of them are depressed lonely virgins who just don't understand the real causes to why they're depressed and angry and latch onto the ones provided to them by the elites which give them a sense of identity and worth and ability to take part in something greater than them. They desperately need those things and their desperation makes them easy targets for manipulation and they are being manipulated, have no doubt about that, but now things are getting out of control.

The elites have been using racial hatred and shit as a way to get votes for the voting bloc that fully supports the 1%'s interests, and they don't care what happens as a consequence, and they are quite literally turning these people into insane people who are blinded by hatred for all the wrong reasons and all the wrong people. We have had congressional testimony alleging that Russians have been spreading misinformation on 4chan and 8chan, and yet since this misinformation helps the republicans who have all the power they've done nothing about it and people get further and further divorced from actual reality every day. The internet allows people to completely shape their version of reality. We have a pool of 7 billion people on this planet to choose from, you can choose whatever content you like and find thousands of examples of it and then if you just push that content over and over, it becomes what people see every day, what people see every day becomes their reality, it's what they believe is normal. It's not a rational process, it's just something that happens on instinct.

Norm engineering is an established science now, there's been lots of research and trials and error by various government and non-government entities going back literally thousands of years by one way of looking at it and at least 100 by another. It's used to sell shit and to get people to work like slaves and ignore the brutality of governments, but now it's also being used to drive people insane. Just look at the christchurch guy, he obviously browsed 8chan and was steeped in their ideology about muslim invaders coming to rape their white succubi. His cuck rage has been exploited through internet propaganda to create a massacre of giant further propaganda value in the Muslim world which can be used to motivate retaliatory attack, which can be used to motivate a war with Iran or something. It's all just so tiresome, the elites are all literal psychopaths who think of people like us as little more than worms, pawns on a chessboard, NPCs to be fed into the meat grinder. Life is literally just a game for them, they're insulated from any real consequences, we are the ones who have to suffer those.

 No.201900

>>201889
>Some of them are though, that's the problem. Everyone likes to ignore the stupid and the ugly and the poor, but they're out there, and they're browsing the internet too, and they're becoming radicalized. Look at what's happening on 4chan's pol. The entire group is going literally insane, but it's all an effort to keep themselves mentally afloat, many of them are depressed lonely virgins who just don't understand the real causes to why they're depressed and angry and latch onto the ones provided to them by the elites which give them a sense of identity and worth and ability to take part in something greater than them.

Its so hard for me to relate that the chest-pounding Nietzschean uberman are largely people just like me. I guess it shouldn't be so shocking as there is a lot of 4chad leakage onto Wizchan.

When they talk tough, they would be the 1st to say that ugly, poor, inferior men need to be weeded out by social darwinism.

Its weird to me, that men like me, are the ones being radicalized to embrace pure rule by the Strong.

 No.201901

>>201863
Thats like saying Hitler was a Leftist.

My test is, just ask people who self-identify as crabs, people who self-identify as Nazis, whether they also identify as Leftists, Communists, Socialists. Ask /pol/ and /r9k/

Ben Shapiro could say that Nazis are Leftists, but actual Nazis on /pol/ don't think they are. Same with crabs

 No.201913

>ctrl+f
>"normie"
all who wrote that word should be permabanned right now. fuck off normalfags.

 No.202058

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>>201900
>Its weird to me, that men like me, are the ones being radicalized to embrace pure rule by the Strong.

From a very specific angle, it "kinda" makes sense. The loser's identity is no longer theirs. They're no longer nerds, geeks, gamers or what have you. With wikias, youtube breakdowns, video streaming, mainstream acceptance, gaming on mobile etc "being a geek" is now utterly trivial. That little "safe space" where they could use as a foundation to build a support group has been levelled since now everyone is there.

So I guess they looked for an alternative identity, but it is very bizarre that they started Chad worship. And I guess people with agendas took advantage of it.

N.B. I still think that wizards, and social retards/reclusives/outcasts, are a dying breed and that this crab thing is a new teenage phase that this crazy social media era has produced.

 No.202059

Amen to that fellow redditors,queens and communist

 No.202069

>>202059
Are you okay?

 No.202076

>>202069
Send me more animal pictures

 No.202095

I don't think that's necessarily true, in fact I think the zoomer generation are even more broken than the millenials which will become apparent as they get older

 No.202096

>>202095
Prove it

 No.202097

>>202095
Actually backing up your statements? Where do you think we are lol. This is an imageboard where people throw in a statement and go.

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>>202095
>in fact I think the zoomer generation are even more broken than the millenials

Plug'n'Play.
All the fandoms/communities/hobbies are already in place for the zoomers, most of the work has been already been done for them.

(Financially the zoomers may be fucked but that's a different topic.)

 No.202147

>>194691
Just because people have the same hobbies it doesn't mean they identify with the struggles of being a social recluse. Normies look at the struggles of being a recluse as if it is a joke. And

>Coolers come from a much more socially inclined background


Wrong. There are plenty of zoomers who are complete recluse. Wizards were never defined by having a hobby or passion, we were defined by being socially reclusive men unable to fit in with society definition of normal and uninterested in succubi. You have fundamentally mis understood what it is to be a wizard. The only issue is mainstreaming of the internet had led to us becoming replaced and invaded.

 No.202150

Haha so true.
*Chats with my discord clique because I'm such a recluse*

 No.202261

>>202147
>Wrong. There are plenty of zoomers who are complete recluse. Wizards were never defined by having a hobby or passion, we were defined by being socially reclusive men unable to fit in with society definition of normal and uninterested in succubi. You have fundamentally misunderstood what it is to be a wizard. The only issue is mainstreaming of the internet had led to us becoming replaced and invaded.

I sometimes forget that wizchan is not wizardchan and that everything got burnt in the fire when it collapsed. Now all that's left is self-important teen larpers who are looking for a group to look down on.

 No.202834

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We've always been a rare breed. It's just become more difficult to express our thoughts and feelings now cause of the whole "huurrr crab school shooter" normie perspective. Back in the early 2000s we had Newgrounds and Ebaumsworld; then when those went to hell we had to flock to 4shit. It's only a matter of time before we'll need to leave here for a new home.

On a brighter note, with the increasing prevalence of autism, i'm sure we'll have a fresh batch of socially inept hikki zoomers in the coming years.

 No.202835

>>202834
I never experienced this, but i heard tumblr had pretty good drawn porn while the site lasted

 No.202868

>>202835
>but i heard tumblr had pretty good drawn porn while the site lasted
Are you like 5 years old? This literally changed in the last year or less.

 No.202904

>>202868
So what's it like believing that being an insufferably rude turd makes you an interesting person?

 No.202915

>>202904
I'm pretty sure those are your assumptions.

 No.202930

>>202834
>On a brighter note, with the increasing prevalence of autism, i'm sure we'll have a fresh batch of socially inept hikki zoomers in the coming years.

You're very optimistic, but I don't think so. The only new social outcasts are going to be the extremely mentally ill.

I think that other anon was right and that a certain segment of us just got really unlucky and were born in the wrong year.

 No.203020

>>202915
Merely an observation

 No.203054

The wizard "identity" will probably die but social outcast male virgins wont. Imageboards are already becoming passe for the younger generation.

 No.203848

>>202834
>On a brighter note, with the increasing prevalence of autism, i'm sure we'll have a fresh batch of socially inept hikki zoomers in the coming years.

What are you basing this on?

 No.203891

>>202078

This.

I only browse wizchan and 8chan now but wizchan is dying and 8chan about to be closed anytime now because retarded /polacks killing people. Where am I going? I'm really scared, because imageboards are all I have, the only human company I could ever experience.

 No.203961

>>203870
>A true social outcast wouldn't even be on the internet in the first place since it's a projected layer of society

How did you even come to that conclusion? Obviously it's changed nowadays since the whole world is on the internet and it's no longer the hideaway of the misfits, but like I remember when forums were filled with people who had no life beyond the forums.

 No.205989

I feel like this thread has to be bumped. I don't want the actual wizards to be forgotten this fast.

 No.205997

>>203891
>I'm really scared, because imageboards are all I have, the only human company I could ever experience.

I hope admin knows how important this place is for ones such as us. We are grateful for your service admin.

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NOW its be like - if you are nobody in real life u are nobody on the internet aswell now. If you are popular scum u will be even more popular on the internet now - a huge plus if you got the money to advertize yourself.

The internet now is: facebook, insta, (google infested) youtube, twitter and other major cancer cesspools like that. This is the internet. The rest is ghost towns, misfits… I dont even know where most disappeared. I think a big percent had no problem to adapt and conform to become a normie netizen. Rest? I dunno. Been thinking obsessively lately on how much ruined has the internet become.. Yes its a big problem because it used to be a more fun more interesting place for an omega misfit like me. I could evade the world outside and all the crap and be in the web. But now it feels so shitty !

 No.206319

>>206264
>normie
>omega

Hmmmmm.

But aside from that you're right but I don't think it's actually possible for zoomers to even comprehend what was different 15 or even 10 years ago.

 No.206327

>>206264
you forgot reddit

 No.206332

>>206327
Ah yes, and whatever ugly site is mainstream now. I don't follow.

>>206319
Why only blame zoomers? I blame gen Y aswell and even whats before. They helped ruin the internet a lot, they knew it was pretty good but instead of preserving it they wanted it to burn down. Maybe they like the idea of conquering the realm of the misfits and the high when you ruin everything nice.

 No.206338

>>194720
I'm 26 but i am a dumb wizard

 No.206343

>>197273
This is quite sad really.

 No.206356

>>194716
We call those wannabe normalfags and they should fuck off back to /r9k/

 No.206357

>>194716
how could someone not be a wizard by choice? Being a wizard means to not desire sex or romantic relationships which is obviously a matter of individual choice.

 No.206361

>>206327
>reddit

Anons who say this these days are always suspect, it doesn't mean anything anymore like
>it's summer
it's basically a reflexive action that you see everywhere else on the internet.

>>206332
>Why only blame zoomers? I blame gen Y aswell and even whats before. They helped ruin the internet a lot, they knew it was pretty good but instead of preserving it they wanted it to burn down. Maybe they like the idea of conquering the realm of the misfits and the high when you ruin everything nice.

I don't think you even understood the point of the thread. It's not about who ruined it.

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>>206361
O..nonono

Those who ruined it is very connected and they - the problem, should be addressed and addressed till it gets more and more clear. Else this topic wont even exist the first place.

People aswell should stop being so damn "topic rigid". This too helped ruin internet experience. This is a normie behavior aswell.

 No.206375

>>206372
>People aswell should stop being so damn "topic rigid". This too helped ruin internet experience. This is a normie behavior aswell.

So you don't actually know what the thread topic is and you just want to LARP as someone from the good times?

 No.206376

>>206375
Dont mind the guy. He is low ioying naturally annoying.

 No.206378

>>206357
you're confused the definition of wizard with the rule of this specific site

 No.208128

>>202834
>On a brighter note, with the increasing prevalence of autism, i'm sure we'll have a fresh batch of socially inept hikki zoomers in the coming years.

I really doubt that's going to happen.

 No.210572

>dying out
nah
as long as there is beta cucks who reproduce with females who need beta bux, there will always be failures amongst their offspring

 No.210600

It probably has to do with the greater availability of showers.

 No.210607

>>210572
Alpha and beta are relative terms. If you had only alphas breeding with females, 80% of the next generation would still be betas.

 No.210859

As im turning 27 this coming spring, im getting closer to attending my wizardly power. What still surprise me is the fact that being intimate with a female scares me more than any psychedelic drug and basically had my brain blow out, that shit doesn't scare me as much as letting me go to females. I feel less in control with females than when Im in my head..

 No.210860

>>210859
having to interact with them sucks

 No.210916

>>210600
You really think so?

 No.210941

>>194720
I'm 25 and post here.

 No.211096

You're wrong OP. I'm sure in the mid-00s there were Gen X internet users thinking that Millenials were better adjusted, basing this on the fact that there weren't many Millenial wizards on their obscure IRC channel or Yahoo chat room.

Imageboards are now for an older demographic, zoomers don't use imageboards, they use discords. Because of my chronic cumbraining, I've ventured across online communities where zoomers hang out, and have come across a few zoomer discords. There's still a lot of wizards at that age.

One thing that has changed, however, is that they're more self aware of what they are than what we were.

 No.211106

>>194701
>Zoomers (mid to late adolescence) today don't have problems with unemployment because of how well the economy is doing
No problem, a world biggest crisis that will put 29's crises in the pocket and is pretty soon, when USA not be able to print more money to save, all the world will collapse.

 No.211113

>>201889

thats right, we maybe only creep, but better to be creepy than to be a manipulating mastermind.

 No.211507

>>211096
>There's still a lot of wizards at that age.
You're a wizard when you're 30 (or 40 if we're going by that really old standard) so them being virgins at 20 doesn't really mean anything.

And you and I remember the 00s internet very differently, I remember the 00s internet having both a millenial and Gen-x in similar population sizes.

 No.211517

>>211096
In a sense, it's true, Millenials are more adjusted to the fucked up modern world. We know how to be NEETs, we know how to escape through things like anime and video games, we are able to make sense of our situation. Alot of Gen-X don't which is why they are leading the middle age suicide rates, they can't handle the modern world

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>>211106
In a way, I'm glad that some sort of looming crisis is on the horizon.

Every little niche, every small corner, everything has been taken over.

 No.211639

>>211637
Just wait for oil to end

 No.211644

>>211639
I hope all the fandoms visibly crumble first before the major shit.

It's such a kick in the teeth that even the most insignificant niche fandoms are no yours to call your own.

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>>194701
>Zoomers (mid to late adolescence) today don't have problems with unemployment because of how well the economy is doing
Not in my country, here we're still fucked

 No.211970

>>211968
>we're

 No.211975

>>211644
Not gonna happen. End either will be swift and suddenly it will all be gone like it was a dream in the first place, or it's gonna be a slow burn and you realize fandoms die down because people have bigger issues on their minds than discord drama.

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>>210859
After decades of solving problems on my own, thinking about interacting with succubi is completely abstract to me. It's like jumping from a cliff. Everyone does it, they say I have to do it too, there's a chance I'll hit the water, but I see people mostly hitting rocks. There's some peer pressure, but generally nothing stops me from just not going to the cliff and jumping. And there aren't any immediate consequences. I'm just safe like this.

 No.211979

>>211968
>>211970
zoomers are old enough to be here now, very scary

 No.211985

>>211976
What's this? looks good.

 No.211988

>>194701
User "melonpan" on YouTube contradicts your statement. There are a lot of norman weebs like him. There's also a lot of "anime rewiewers there who seem to know a lot about their hobby and have normal social life too. And I'm just giving examples of /a/. All other hobbies have their online communities too.

 No.212036

>>211988
>User "melonpan" on YouTube contradicts your statement
>norman weeb
Not him but I kinda fail to see how your example contradicts his point, in fact you're doing the opposite and solidifying his point. Maybe you misunderstood his post.

>>211975
>or it's gonna be a slow burn and you realize fandoms die down because people have bigger issues on their minds than discord drama.
Is that different from fandoms visibly crumbling?

 No.212037

>>194691
>and most, if not all, of internet (and geek) culture has seeped into the mainstream.

I can't tell if the subcultures or fandoms or whatever have been rendered meaningless with a low barrier of entry OR if I'm just totally outside of society including it's set of freaks. Or both maybe I don't know.

 No.212591

>>211979
It's not as if wizchan hasn't filled up with zoomers who claim wizardry for as long as they feel like it and then just leave.

 No.213908

>>211988
It really bothers me when people don't finish the quote.

 No.213950

>>213908
We're wizards, not just "people.

 No.214194

Well, the last 2 forums I browse are now functionally dead.

Now I don't have any place else. I don't particularly like wizchan but there's not much choice now is there. FUck. The next 10 years are going to be real miserable.

 No.214197

>>214194
As if this place isn't already a joke. It's just the only place you can go where real life sex anecdotes aren't being spammed everywhere.

 No.214200

>>214197
I know that wizardchan went down but is wizchan the only viable(lol) replacement?

 No.214220

>>214194
Nah, you just come to come to where we all moved to, internet 2.0 is functionally dead


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