jagermeister, fireball, bottom shelf whiskey. all good stuff very drinkable for me. Smirnoff vodka is good as a budget option but I usually need to buy a chaser.
Are there any alternatives to alcohol that are easy to obtain? Alcohol is too expensive for me and I do not like dealing with the hangovers and the accelerated aging.
>>195905 >Are there any alternatives to alcohol Yes > that are easy to obtain? No Alcohol is the most available and cheapest option. >Alcohol is too expensive for me and I do not like dealing with the hangovers and the accelerated aging. Then don't do drugs/alcohol and learn to be fine not being intoxicated. That or use weed I guess. It seems to be what you are looking for but still cost money. If booze are too expensive for you then weed is also probably too expensive to you. Worry about getting more money first I guess.
not tonight, gonna try to reduce my intake to only weekends so i can reset my tolerance as much as i can been on benzos during the day tho, not the same as booze but it's nice to not have to deal with hangovers
>>195997 just a quick update couldn't sleep at all, even when i tried to knock me out with xanax i was sweating and having weird muscle contractions until 6AM, but i'm commited to detox
Just finished a bottle of 37% white rum and I dont feel any better at all. Usually when I drink I at least forget about my sorrows and have a good time for a few hours but today fucking nothing. I honestly feel cheated.
>>196074 when you go on a binding or you drink for many nights in a row, there's a moment when you hit some kind of wall, and drinking stops being as great as it was that's why i'm quiting for a little while
>>195881 Red Stripe reporting in. It calms the voices in my head. Ive stuggled with drinking problems for years on and off but I feel that I'm beginning to spiral so far into it now there will be no return. The pain of existence is too much. For a while I tried to convince myself to appreciate pain, as there is dualism to everything to appreciate life in its fullest surely you must also appreciate the negative. But when negative is all there is, what is the point? I wish I was still emotionally repressed, telling myself I don't feel anything like an edgy teenager, but it's a lie. I feel everything. And I can't handle the pain anymore.
Downing this right now because I am on budget (10 bucks, 40%ABV), straight, with an opiate, a benzo and weed. This might sound selfish on my part, but I am "glad" there are other alcoholic wizards, it makes me feel I'm not alone in this struggle. I thought you were going to point fingers at me. I'd prefer gin though but it's more expensive (more than 20 bucks, 47% ABV).
I read about psychology, clinical studies, and abuse and neglect during childhood. We wizards are more than tenfold prone to develop an addiction, internet, porn, substances, you name it. But I've noticed that the average wizard is more critical of his fellow wizard addicted to substances. This facts make me feel bad, being rejected by a fellow wizard, I am just like you, I just have a different addiction.
I just found these weird cheap European beers they have at most supermarkets, seem to be the cheapest alcohol you can get here, most around 500ml and 7.x% alcohol (so about three standards) for around $3 (non-USD), I think some were a little less.
>>196185 here any vodka that's 40% will be $35-40+, it sucks how expensive booze is here also you're the same guy posting about your 'combo' huh. I've done the same combo but these days don't have access to all that stuff, much less afford it. Pretty sweet, though too often I'd over do it and just end up asleep. Pretty jealous.
>>196192 >Pretty jealous. Do you live in the "first world"? I live in the "developing word", it's not like I make a fuckton of money. Shit might be more expensive where you live but your autismbux/salaries and considerably better. Like, I only make 1.5k USD a month after taxes, and this is after 7 years of work experience in accounting, financial audit and internal audit.
>>196194 I am sure this board is full of addicts. Internet, porn, vidya, manga, or drugs and substances, some wizards just don't recognize it or are not aware of their addiction.
Alcoholism and drug addiction are actually recognized in the DSM. My official diagnosis is F19 "polysubstance abuse". Behavioural addictions like gambling or internet addiction are starting to be recognized in the DSM. We wizards are more prone to addiction, because we have suffering, abuse, rejection, neglect, isolation in our lifes, and our specific addictions kinda fill that void and works as escapism from our perceived bad life situations. Co-morbid mental diseases are a bitch too.
I haven't even started smoking weed and I already feel that orgasmic sensation of peace, love and euphoria. This is the life I want to live voluntarily, without coercion from society.
>>196196 Yeah I'm "first world" but it's the kinda first world where it doesn't feel like the bux/salaries are actually enough to make up for shit being more expensive. Don't have much weed left, have to save the rest for with dinner tonight. I hate this feeling, you start off the week with your full bag and you feel better not even having done it, just knowing it's there and you can do as much as you want, but then too soon you're looking at the last bits and it's almost worse than having nothing at all. Think I'm gonna have to steal a cup of Bombay for myself to keep me going til tonight, then it'll be nothing for a long time…
>>196198 >>196196 >>196192 >>196185 here in my shithole you can buy this hell of a devil's piss it's cane liquor, a liter for 1USD it tastes like ass, gives you a terrible hangover and i'm pretty sure you could get blind if you drink too much it's only 24% but it gets the job done don't you have anything analog to this in your countries?
>>196199 In the UK we used to have this - "White Lightning". They stopped making it but there are other brands which carry on the tradition of selling 3 litres of 8% cider for pretty cheap, at about £3 now still. There is probably cheaper alcohol but this is what people drink.
It's not very strong but it became well known because pretty much every homeless person would just sit there all day chugging from these massive 3 litre bottles. They could just drink all day because it doesn't taste too bad. People became very familiar seeing bottles of white lightning in all the doorways where homeless people had left them.
>>196199 Yes but I am stubborn, I want shit with more than 40% ABV. We have MD, Night Train and shit like that but it's not even 20% ABV.
Our nationan liquors are like 25% cheaper than other liquors. This is my favorite national liquour, it's "vodka" from sugar cane, it's called seco (dry in spanish), but it's only 35% ABV and it taste like vodka but very slightly sweeter/less bitter. I prefer to buy shit with higher than 40% ABV, it might be more expensive but it's better bang for your buck.
Tax on alcohol is 10% here. We have a national rum but I hate rum, I prefer clear liquors made out of botanicals and berries or shit like that (like gin or fernet). I fucking hate the wood bitter taste of rum, whiskey, scotch, etc.
>>196204 >>196205 i very well explained that tonayan is indeed an horrendous shit, but hey, it's pretty cheap and if you are an alcoholic it's an option if you are broke at the moment
glad to see i'm not the only mexican wizard tho, cheers
>>196185 Well yeah, while we may have the fact we are wizards in common we are still people and there are MANY assholes among us. There are people who are critical of porn, chosen forms of escapism, and every other addiction imaginalble to. Some of the time it is because of personal hang ups in their own head (like they associate certain things with normies and once they made up their mind they refuse to see things any other way), and some just enjoy being antagonistic. People are just assholes in general. I don't even take it personally anymore.
>>196369 I find it relaxing to drink beer and play video games alone. Sure, it's a waste of time and money, but at least I derive some enjoyment out of it. It's more of a treat, I guess. Drinking isnt for everyone
>>195881 5$ rum from the supermarket for me, like always. My dads an alcoholic and ruined both his health and our family because of it. I swore to myself when I was younger to never drink in my life because of him. Now alcohol is the only thing that makes me happy.
I drink either Absolut or beer. I haven't tried other vodka brands because I like Absolut enough. I don't care for beer brands. I'm not a fan of other types of alcohol. It was interesting to watch my tolerance increase over the years.
>>196391 from what've learned over the internet and personal experiencie with people who've died from diseases derived from an excesive consumption of alcohol, i would say it takes around 15 years of daily consume if your intake is superior to 240mm of ethanol i only drink a six pack of 4.5% beer nightly or a bottle of 13% wine (750ml), so i'm not worried about getting cirrohsis or something like that i'm worried i may get diabetes or something tho, but i could manage to only drink on weekends and i'm starting to enjoy not waking up with a hangover so i think i will make it i'll probably start working out soon as well remember: alcoholism is mostly a psychological issue, and this is coming from someone who used to drink a liter of 40% a day
>>196876 For me, it took around 1 and a half week to feel "normal" again, although your reward "reflex" will be fucked for like a month or so, so be prepared to be depressed for a while
>>195905 If alcohol is too expensive for you, so would any other drug. You can get a big jug of cheap vodka for $15, mix it with some fruit juice, its not so bad.
>>196889 That's kinda how I felt after I stopped smoking weed.
>when you didnt throw up after a night of binge drinking so you reward yourself with another bottle of cheap rum the next day Sometimes I wonder if there is more to life for me.
My dad's an alcoholic and I used to hate him for it. It ruined his health our relationship and our family. Now i'm older and a useless drunk myself. Ironically enough I feel closer to him when I drink than I ever did growing up.
>>197816 OP here. I am genuinely sorry to hear that.
I am an alcoholic and drug addict, I'd never breed to bring this scourge on any innocent child.
But I invite you to think for a minute, we're victims, there is no denying that. But our parents were victims too, of our greatparents, and so on.
In my personal case, my parents didn't abuse substances, but my mom used excessive corporal punishment on me, and allowed/ordered others to do the same. But you know what? My maternal grandparents were even more cruel with 8 children (my aunts and uncles). My mom was just being cruel on me, his only son.
Also all my aunts and uncles from this family side, every single one of them, is a fuck up in life. Somehow half of them managed to breed, and all my male relatives from paternal and maternal side are at least robots.
When other people get blackout drunk they tell stories like 'dude I got so shitfaced I woke up in another part of town next to some bitch I dunno lmao'. When I get blackout drunk I wake up the next day to find out I finished some quests in Witcher 3 or played through a chapter of DQ11 without remembering any of it.
>>197928 >What does Jack Daniels and Jim beam taste like? Is it good enough for it to be maintained? "Woody". I prefer the taste of hard liquors made out of botanicals, like Gin. I love Gin.
Rum (above 40%ABV) and a liquor called Seco (35%) are my national alcoholic beverages. I used to drink the Rum but now it makes me want to puke because I hate the woody taste, I used to drink Seco straight because it taste like Vodka but slightly sweeter. Now I exclusively drink cheap vodka and mid-tier London Dry Gin. Gin is my favorite. Fernet is my second favorite but I hate drinking something with less than 40% ABV, when I drink I do it to get smashed. >>197926 I understand you. At my worst I average half a bottle of hard liquor or more (47% ABV London Dry Gin like Bombay Sapphire, Tanqueray or Beefeater).
We wizards have had different or similar circumstances in life, these circumstances make us more prone to addictions, like alcoholism or drug addiction, or other behavioral addictions like porn, vidya and internet, but I know most wizards consider alcoholism and drug addiction to be a normie thing. We live in different cultures/societies and drugs are actually a thing where I live, I politely ask you to understand fellow wizard brother, I didn't want to turn in the beast I am.
I don't eat or wash or talk to anyone when I am binge using for weeks. My parents went from being my bullies to feeling very worried and scared of me and my dangerous/suicidal/erratic behavior, and potential to end up genuinely crazy (have had drug induced psychosis more than 10 times, maybe more than 20 times, doctors say one day it will get triggered without drugs as an external stimulus). Ironically only been to the psych ward once for 35 days, I learned how to sort my shit when psychotic, like I calm down, take a decent those of Quetiapine and sleep 1-3 days until it wears off.
>get heartburn every time I drink now It's almost like my body doesn't want me to poison myself. Drinking's all I have in life and now I can't even do that in peace.
>>198184 >get heartburn every time I drink now Eat some saltine crackers before drinking. Always work. Or visit a doctor to investigate if you have actual heartburn problems, my dad has them and he has to take specific meds, maybe it's your situation, maybe not.
>>198322 I used to love beer, specially craft beer. Then turned to wine. I started hating both because they have low ABV, now I exclusively harder liquors (above 40% ABV, like Tanqueray gin which was 47% ABV). Because liquor has given me a big tolerance to alcohol, I don't feel shit from beer, it's like I am drinking soda.
I invite anyone that drinks to try some gin or Fernet Branca, they're both delicious. Again like I said in another post, I hate alcohol that has a woody taste, like rum. The taste itself make me want to puke, this doesn't happen when I drink other liquors, even when they are stronger than rum or other woody-tasting liquors. Lately I've been drinking more vodka than gin because it's cheaper and I got laid off so I have to spend as less as possible so I can have some money for vices while I get a new job.
>>197845 I can relate. When I get blackout drunk I just get a chunk of time that basically disappears. Since I don't leave the house, don't interact with anyone and don't like playing video-games while drunk there's no way for me to get clues for what the fuck I was doing in that time.
I’ve been binge drinking regularly for quite a while nls and even though I’d call myself an alcoholic I was never truly addicted until recently. Since around 2 weeks ago if I’m not drunk I’ve been getting withdrawal symptoms and I can’t stand them. I literally need to drink even though I stopped enjoying it a long time ago. Luckily (unluckily?) I’m a NEET and my savings will probably run out by next week so I’ll have no choice but to stop.
>>200092 i stopped, not because of some kind of monetary restriction nor by willpower, but because i had an insomnia so bad i couldn't sleep for days even after ingesting 100mg of benadryl, 4mx of xanax and half a liter of vodka
shit felt like hell, had to drink coffee like it was water to keep me going (i have to drive a lot) and provigil
i started taking meth like two weeks ago, tried a little bit once, then bought a ball and haven't touched it since. not because of will strenght, but because it's not availaible anymore (at least until the military leaves the city) i'm planning on buying a shit ton of meth once shit calms down, it's a productivity booster and works like magic if you have anhedonia sleeping is for pussies anyways, and i'm sleeping 12 hours a day nowadays haven't touched a drink in like a month i think
Bombay Sapphire is really quite boring. But then again, when it comes to gin, I prefer the firewater Finsbury. It has that certain endearing edge to it.
britbong here first time posting - i've recently taken to Kestrel Super, its a 9% larger that i find great for surprise naps and forgetting about how i still love with my parents at 28 and my steadily increasing opiate dependence.
sometimes i like to mix it with etizolam and methadone [blue type, super strong] or even some smack if my ESA has come in.
not dependant on alc but have been on both benzos and opiates, so i'm sure its just a matter of time. wish i had someone to do this with tho, i'm so lonely.
Zabujard here. Just been drinking Pabst all week since parents are gone. It's been ok. Watching nhk over and over again with Pabst fucking shit fellow neets.. We are bonded to all Japan neets serially
>>200633 Drinking alone is better, you can't sing at the top of your lungs when you're drunk with other people Not gonna deny I also wish I had someone else to do this shit with though
Drinking cheap rum and vodka and listening to Elliott Smith. It's pretty nice but I wish I had access to other drugs than DXM and alcohol but I'm still too anxious to order anything from the deep web.
alcohol: >is a waste of money >causes health problems and brain damage >tastes like shit(most of the time) >primarily used to signal to one's friends how cool one is
>>203386 I don't understand people like you. Why should I care? Also I really and honestly like the taste of beer. I don't drink hard liquor only beer. But lot of it. I'm an alcoholic no doubts. But I've many times in my life rather endure withdrawal than drinking something what I don't like.
Above Tonayan, Golden Cane, much worse than Tonayan, Cañazo. There is another called Lima, distilled cane, white with coconut flavor and the one that I like the most, cinnamon flavor, in addition to the rest.
I've been dry for half a year now but I'm thinking about getting fucked up later today. I stopped drinking in a foolish attempt to better my life but 6 months later and I have nothing to show for it.
hi wizzie. i dont regularly drink, but i felt inclined the last couple of days to do so. the last time i drank alcohol was 2017 i believe, i drink like once a year, if that
for some reason ive been thinking about totalbuiscuit lately, and how truly tragic and sad death is. i never really liked the guy, buy i remember the days when i was a high masters sc2 played back in 2010 and i remember him from that era. i never agreed with the dude's politics, but if you hate someone for their political opinion, you will simply hate every single person you've met
anyways, i felt like drinking the alcohol that mr totalbuiscuit enjoyed, and turns out he was a cider connoisseur. so i bought some, and i even went out of my way to find the alcohol he thought was the best, its called "angry orchard cidar". i tried getting the regular stuff but they only had the rose one, so thats what i bought
i had to go to downtown toronto to buy it at the LCBO. it was right besides east side china town, and when i was 19 i the first boarding house i lived in was in east side china down, at broadview and dundas. i remember those days so fondly, like they were yesterday. i remember reading and watching all of "welcome to the nhk" and for the first time in my life contemplating if i was going to live my entire life as a virgin, as i was 19 years old at the time and still a virgin. 28 now btw
anyways, i had to walk through crowded streets of normies to get to the LCBO. it was pretty surreal. i always felt uncomfortable in social situations, but it felt like some kind of weird out of body experience being in the presence of social normies. kinda like that 'land of the living' scene in grim fandango, pic related. i was at broadview at around 9:30pm, when the sun whent down, so i took some pictures of it. i dont have anyone to share the experience with, so its just me and you, wizzie. i was like the only loner, there were atleast a dozen couples sitting there together watching the broadview skyline together, i only counted 1 or 2 loners besides myself. honestly, as much as i hate normies, i dont really blame them. i would behave the same if i was in their shoes. still kinda hate them tho. heres a pic i took of the toronto skyline when the sun just went down
the swedish stuff was the best imo as i prefer the sweet stuff
>>205766 >Does anyone else drink while listening to depressive/suicidal music? Yes. Most of the music I listen to is depressive but when I drink I find comfort in the misery and I feel like I understand the lyrics better. Personally I'm drinking rum and beer.
I used to drink but I quit when I realized that it just ended up making me feel worse rather than help to numb things. Same with other drugs - life is awful, but it somehow gets even worse when I'm dealing with a hangover.
The stages of drinking: 1. Start drinking, feel bloated. 2. Bloating dissipates, feel good. 3. Crushing depression hits. 4. Fall asleep. 5. Wake up with diarrhea and a slight headache.
>>206017 Agreed. I can't handle the hangovers, can't sleep them off either because I find I can't sleep when I'm hungover. I think it's glutamine rebound.
>>195881 >>196369 Alcohol is one of the few things that helps alleviate my immense boredom. It's basically no different than jerking off in that regard. I fucking hate it, too, it tastes like shit (unless you buy the expensive stuff) and makes me feel like shit. If I knew of a way to get my hands on weed, I'd rather just do that, I find it immensely more enjoyable. I'd probably give up drinking altogether. But, I'm too spooked to use darkweb markets, and growing my own isn't feasible since I live with my parents. I hope my state legalizes it.
>>196368 This is what I always get, except I get one of the big jugs. It's the cheapest thing at my nearby liquor store, so it's the only thing I've ever bought from there. On rare occasion I spent an extra buck to get the Skol gin instead, but they both more or less taste the same so it isn't worth it.
>>206167 It drives me nuts, too, because every time I drink, I know I'm consuming a sub-par, poison substance when something better exists. Honestly, I kind of doubt most people would bother drinking at all if it was legalized. It's just an inferior and unhealthier experience altogether. But, again, I'm holding out hope it gets legalized where I'm at, there's an okay chance of that happening next year.
But whatever, I should probably stop going on about it. This is an alcohol general, after all.
I’m on neetbucks and just spend all my money on alcohol. Only got £10 for the next 3 weeks because I don’t get any money again until then but I want to drink so bad.
My mom said I can't drink anymore, because I don't work and just leech off her and use all my saved money from my last job to buy alcohol. Now she's away so I can finally finish that bottle of rakija I have hidden. Fuck you mother.
>>206180 I used to be a kava drinker (before my belly couldn't handle all that sediment anymore and now I put myself on some high percent extract), you can get really good at making that alternative and it's a really unique experience. Unless you're one of those unlucky people that it doesn't do anything much to.The only issue it's very expensive these days and you need some micronized on top of a shell and then some worth of thick med grind drink (around 4 tablespoons I use? a heaping one of it per ball in the alu ball making per shake) and that learning curve but just putting it out there.
>>206167 >>206157 Here in Canada, weed is legal. I can just walk in to a store and get some, or order some off of a legal website. I'm surprised I haven't bought any yet, as I've been curious about weed highs for ages
>>206455 Not that Anon, but you should. Being high on weed is a similar sensation to being drunk, but without any of the downsides that come with drunkenness. And it's way less damaging to your health, there's just no downsides.
We're (or at least I am) jealous you live in a place where it's legal, so you shouldn't waste that opportunity.
>>206594 I will when I go out shopping next. I'm going to take it easy at first, though. My family has a history of mental illness, and weed can apparently aggrivate it. It's supposed to be cool, though
I can't find your post right now because I'm drunk but whoever said they play the game where you're a long white haired Polish elf you have shit taste in games, anyone else drinking Huzzar vodka, if you know you know, eleven euro in tesco for half a bottle of it, I'm the creator of the sobriety thread btw
Ye stole me rum! durty skullywagg.. becha wetter'n a bilge rat on me drink.
an I kno where iz mor!
ifin' i figgurs rite, wot a bottel does is wait till rum's around then steals it! Now, this bottle 'ere ain't drunk atall, ossifer, just empty, o'cores! 'else yo gonna rob a licker store fur if it was full?
I love Belgian ales. Pic related and Chimay are my favorites. Sipping these during a comfy friday evening is that much-needed time of bliss in a wageslave life.
I don't like the taste of alcohol much, but I also find myself unable to stop drinking once I start. Would be much nicer if I could take a tablet to get the desired effect.
Alcohol isn't as good for me now, it's good when you drink straight from the bottle after a while of not ddinking and you get that warm feeling in your eyes and you can just sit there and feeel like nothing wrong in your life matters, but I suppose you buid a tolerance to any drug you do.
>>206693 I agree. Mostly I hate drinking around people, it seems to turn everyone into baser creatures, though it is pleasant to drink alone. Getting a bit tipsy and going for an evening walk is something I wouldn't want to be without.
>>207967 Bourbon whisky is best whisky. Really any bourbon is delicious, smooth easy drinking taste and no bite to it. I'd go Jim Beam over Wild Turkey but you can't go wrong with Wild Turkey
I started eating raw garlic after taking a nice big sip because my mother has the nose of a bloodhound. It's the only thing that properly neutralizes the smell of hard liqior breath. It burns really bad though, my eyes get all watery after chewing through that dumb garlic. Plus it's not a long-term solution, I can't be smelling of garlic all day long every single day.
OP here. I can't believe this thread still exists.
I've given up alcohol recently. I slowly stopped drinking or using drugs. I realized being a wizard is fine and that I should just do what makes me happy. Like I just did some exercise, ironed some shirts and now I will play some vidya. I don't expect anything from anyone else, or care about. Anxiety and wrath has considerably gone away. Insomnia and depression will be there forever, I accept that.
>>208927 >>208927 OP here again. Anhedonia exists but it's impossible for a rational human being to not find transient happiness on anything at all; and all wizard are rational beings.
I enjoy art, music, literature, lifting, composing music, playing instruments, philosophy, vidya, even talking to another wizard. I might be unhappy most of the time, but I still make an effort to pursuit these small things I enjoy.
I am mentally ill, but I've learned not to cling to my diagnoses, but to the small things I enjoy which make it worth living another minute.
Getting real sick of this. Eight 440ml cans at 5.3% each in one sitting isn't enough to even get me dizzy anymore. This time last year I was throwing one-man parties off of half the amount and getting a good 14 hour sleep in with the dakimakura, but now I can't drink enough of this or even hard liquor to get near that level. It's costing upwards of $40 to get drunkish for an hour. Maybe it's time to switch to cough medicine, that'd be cool.
>>209059 I have the same issue. I used to be able to get fucked up from drinking about 70% of the amount I now need to reach the same state. My biggest concern is how much weight I'm putting on. I'm properly fat for the first time in my life, and no wonder, every night I drink it's another 1000kcal+ solely from alcohol.
The worst part is the hangover doesn't seem to have scaled with it. If I drink as much as I used to, I barely get drunk but I get the same hangover as I used to. If I drink as much as I need to get properly drunk now, the hangover is TERRIBLE. Wish there was some alternative to alcohol that was as easy to get.
>>208731 Thanks for the tip, whizzie. I bought WT Straight Rye and was not disappointed. I drank the whole thing neat over two weeks. I might go ahead and try bourbon next. Costs about as much as two six packs I would drink in that time span, so I guess I can say it'd save me a trip to the store by buying a bottle of whiskey instead.
>>208942 Is someone with mental illness(es) really a rational being? You make an effort to pursue those things since you enjoy them. Adehonia stops you from seeking/feeling this pleasure or greatly numbs its effects. There's no reason to make an effort…