>>215313 >retard. He's not a retard. You are. You don't understand banal things like hanging has more downsides than poisoning SN. >standard attention whoring Excellent observation. Yes, this particular thread was created to attract attention, but this does not mean that everyone who chooses a more painless method of suicide is a whore who craves attention. >pain you would experience would matter very little I'd like to see you choking on a noose and begging for it to stop.
>>215313 Those who have never been suicidal speaking on the topic of suicide is as insightful and accurate as those who have never been depressed speaking on the topic of depression.
>>215323 You don't have to experience depression to describe it theoretically. Not every psychiatrist has had depression, but he knows how to treat it.
>Every psychiatrist knows how to treat depression. Every psychiatrist knows how to complicate peoples' problems to prolong visit time and collect commissions from drug sales.
>>215325 Fuck you, the psychiatrists only treat normalfags with minor problems, they are incompetent without competence, they are only good at giving drugs, psychoanalysis is shit
>>215330 I'm not gonna bash you for your bad english and I agree to some extent.
I've been seeing therapists and psychiatrists since I'm a child and I can confirm that most of them are rather useless when it comes to more complicated problems such as most people on here have but in my life I had two therapists who were able to help me, they were in leading positions because even the psychiatry confirmed that the regular ones are not competent enough for my problems. I highly suggest that you give feedback and try to get one who is not under 40 and has a lot of experience anything else is a waste of time.
Most therapists I visited were succubi and I gave all of them a chance but they were all useless and seemed overwhelmed with the profession they chose and they acted like I have little booboo normie problems because they were too incompetent to even make an accurate diagnosis and that cost me a lot of time and nerves. There seems to be an inflation of succubi in the field of therapy and such because most men who study psychology choose another profession such as marketing or scientific stuff and the good therapists are mostly men over 40. Therapy will become a succubi infested profession just like veterinarians, hair dressers or geriatric nurses are.
There are a few good therapists out there but it takes a lot of time and luck to find one but they also seem to dissappear more and more.
Hi, my brother took his own life 6 weeks ago with this method, and I after found out that he used to read regularly this forum. I don't know you, and I don't know what you are going through, but please wait before doing it. Just try to talk to someone first, and wait. Please
he left all the passwords, and also the computer one. I read the browsing history… He was the person I loved the most, we are all broken. I am having suicidal ideation myself now. I understand his pain now, but he never talked about his feelings. He kept everything inside, maybe talking would have helped him. Now I am looking for answers but I feel worse and worse because I realize how many people feel that way.
>>215420 Very hard to get, isn't it? This substance is not sold on eBay as SN. I just found this site: https://nembutalwithdignity.org/ You can't buy Nembutal just like that, first you need to contact WITH DIGNITY. This means that, most likely, they will ask you for a long time, why you need it, whether you should change your mind, and so on. Maybe they won't sell you anything at all after all, but I haven't tried it, I don't know. And yes, it is very expensive. The cheapest option is $300. I don't work, and my parents won't give me that much money. This is definitely not my option.
>>215496 Is it seriously a mystery why some depressed wizzie would choose a passive method, that can be done on his own schedule, in privacy and relative comfort, over just trespassing on private property and then a very difficult, stressful and public climb up up a phone tower? How would you even develop the idea that they're a substitute? This is on a similar level to the old "just do drugs and party brah, what do you have to lose".
>>215496 so the website says the powder form will make you throw up, yet it's the established method of euthanasia.
if i dissolve it in a 20% ethyl alcohol solution with sugar it won't make me throw up?
all of it is absorbed IMMEDIATELY? how is it guaranteed that it will still work all the way thru if i throw up, and i won't just absorb a little % of the ingested dosage
>>215564 also if i eat the tablets won't it have a different mechanism? i mean there must be a reason why doctors give it to people in a solution form, rather than tablets, despite tablets looking so much more convenient from the website
>>215633 if I don't I eventually end like my aunt or homeless both endings are much worse than death also I already have SN but this method is much better to keep for when time comes
>>215634 there's more to existence than happiness. there's a chance you're going to keep having the challenges you're trying to run away from now until you finally face them, or forever.
of course, there's also a good chance suicide just gets rid of all your emotions for good, but is suffering really that bad if there's a chance it's in vain? you're having experiences normies can't even imagine. there's a chance you're developing strengths normies can't even imagine.
anyhow, regardless of that, you just don't seem like suicide is your true desire. don't be like that wizzie that killed himself in that famous thread and made it obvious he just coerced himself into it. i don't think ignoring suicidal thoughts is right, but forcing them on yourself just because other thoughts are more uncomfortable to have in your head is definitely wrong.
>>215638 >you're having experiences normies can't even imagine. there's a chance you're developing strengths normies can't even imagine. Wishful thinking, but undoubtedly fallacious too. Any structure will eventually fall to ruin after years of enduring the elements. To think a human is any different from an abode that must be tended to and built from sturdy foundations is ridiculous.
>>215638 Look I don't want to disrespect op by intruding his thread more than I should and going offtopic but also think I need to answer. >there's more to existence than happiness. I'm not pursuing happiness I don't know how you got that from my message but I have had suicide ideations since I was a kid. >there's a chance you're going to keep having the challenges you're trying to run away from now until you finally face them, or forever
You sound like somekind of psych doctor.
What is wrong with being a coward if you don't harm anyone? Yea I would build an underground bubble unable to pop and live there if I could like that witch my mother took me to said, so what? I don't get the approval of society of bravery? Whatever I would rather spit on such medal than ever own it myself being despised by society sounds good to me.
But in a different take I'm scared of somekind of continuity yet again compared to being stuck in asylum until I can die or led a homeless life with my weak ass body… I might be better off reincarnated eventhough I utterly despise the idea. >you're having experiences normies can't even imagine. there's a chance you're developing strengths normies can't even imagine
Yea I used to think I was a chosen one and avoided looking at my weaknesses but denial doesn't change the fact I'm a weakling and I'm deteriorating as I get older nothing of it is gonna make me stronger if anything it can make it so I mentally rot away like is happening to my father. Again Im repeating myself but I wanna make it clear, I don't want my fate to rest on anyone who doesn't give importance to my suffering because they can't feel it themselves. I dunno which would be since my mother could turn to me the moment my father either dies or is not allowed to leave asylum the rest of family I wish they would all die as at first chance I would be in a worse situation than my father if my mother goes out of picture which she could do if she somehow reverts due to my sister or her grandchildren affecting her somehow so I don't truly trust her either anyways I think I'm talking too much and paranoid of my sister browsing as she saw me using me using the site before >anyhow, regardless of that, you just don't seem like suicide is your true desire. don't be like that wizzie that killed himself in that famous thread and made it obvious he just coerced himself into it. i don't think ignoring suicidal thoughts is right, but forcing them on yourself just because other thoughts are more uncomfortable to have in your head is definitely wrong. I don't think you understand the human condition isn't about what you want in this world it is about about the different options you are predeterminedly given I would like to be rich but I ain't. If I have the card to be a slave for a society I despise or die on my own terms and given who I am I will always move to the latter, Jesus and Socrates did the same they could have rejected their individuality and dissolve into the masses but they chose to die with integrity of being.
>>215115 Op, sodium nitrite is NOT painless. It's a peaceful SN is a meme, dig through Sanctioned S- forum, they have threads where people hear their friends anhero over skype on SN and it gets really ugly. Lots of throwing up, screaming etc and they all went through the anti-enemics routine just as planned. I'm not trying to stop you from anheroing just know that sodium nitrite is NOT painless at all!
>>215798 >sodium nitrite is NOT painless Who said it was painless? In one of the megathreads on SS it is clearly written what symptoms you will experience. Does it not seem a coincidence that all the people on this site strongly advise you to buy painkillers? There was a hint that it MAY be peaceful if you are lucky and you are cut off due to low pressure, but this will happen only if it is naturally lower than normal for you. >where people hear their friends anhero over skype on SN Yeah, very plausible. Even if this happened, then I will not believe that more than one incident has occurred.
I don't understand. On SS it's written that you can recover from SN poisoning without problems, but then in another thread I saw how one person wrote that you'll have problems with internal organs, including the brain, for the rest of your life. Where is the truth?
>>216137 If slowly take out the toxin with fasting and accurate diets you may surpass the sequels. Perennial sicknesses are often caused by the mere accumulation of undesired crap inside the body: arthritis, impotence, restlessness, migraines…
>>218315 eeeh, not sure. I think substances THAT toxic would be restricted. However if you live in america, its relatively easy to obtain the precursors to synthesize some heavy metal salts that are almost as toxic as cyanides.
But I have a feeling you and most other people here don't actually want to die yet. imo you shouldn't swallow poison
>>218388 of course not. There are many substances that could be used like that, such as the salts i mentioned what I'm saying is i dont expect anyone to sell that stuff to civilians without a license
>>215424 how do we know if that site is legit? they take 620 dollars from you, but have 0 reference. googling them only throws up their own site + 1 reference from sanctioned doubting their legitimacy.