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 No.216031[Last 50 Posts]

Anyone else starting to feel more and more alone on the internet?
I made the mistake of posting a quick greentext about my life on /r9k/ a few weeks ago, hoping to find similar people, and the whole thread turned into people either feeling sorry for me, calling me a lazy parasite, or not even believing my story was real (which really hurts, because it means I'm so far gone that my life looks like some made up story for trolling). No one posted their own stories, which makes me believe that there's nobody like me on that site.
Even on wizchan, the last refuge for people like us, I often feel like I'm at the bottom of the totem pole. At least here I still find some posts I can relate to, but my guess is there's around 5-10 people at most the same level as me.
I'm realizing that I can't share this stuff online anymore. I should just post about subjects that interest me (like video games or music) and NEVER share or ask anything about personal lives.
From now on I'll live like a ghost, just lurking and occasionaly contributing a little, but never sharing anything too deep.

 No.216033

>>216031
R9K is infested with normalfaggots, it's basically /b/ 2.0 so it was pretty expected, the board wasn't really exactly for sad blogposts. You will find refugee here as long as your shit isn't about succubi.

 No.216035

Yeah, I think it's mostly related to aging. Most communities seem to be regurgitating the same stupid memes every other community does, normalfag ones included like Twitter and Facebook. It's just so tiresome, especially if you don't have sex constantly on your mind like them.
It's so bad it cured my internet addiction.

 No.216036

4chan has always been mostly normal people letting loose. But yeah, you should expect the real world tendencies to penetrate the internet as it has become integrated. It's not a refuge for nerds.

 No.216039

The internet is so tiresome. Memes, politics, porn, eceleb drama. The few sites worth lurking are either slow or very repetitive. Sooner or later I will need to cut it from my life.

 No.216044

It's kind of frustrating. 4chan is fairly bad. They're obsessed with Youtube "celebrities", making fun of each other, discord, and other normgroid things. Anything that is wrongthink is either told to go back to reddit/resetera/wherever or gaslighted/gaslit. It's tiring.

Reddit is a bit better, but it depends on what you're after. I usually just look for news about video games on slightly smaller subreddits or go on paranormal subreddits. It still has issues (for eg, "hey look at what my gf got me UwU" stuff), but it's managable.

Wizchan is better than both options, though. I kind of miss webforums, as archaic as they are.

I don't really relate to anyone online, at least outside wizchan. I don't hate succubi (indifferent towards 'em), nor do I care about rightist politics or normgroid-tier behaviour, so 4chan is out the window.

 No.216050

>>216031
/r9k/ has been tranny and faggot central for a while now. it's completely dead.

 No.216054

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>>216031
I'm going through the same thing. It probably started around 2015 for me, but it intensified in the last year or so (for reference, I'm 27 now). I find myself gradually disconnecting from the Internet, not out of any desire or commitment to do so, but because of weariness and lack of general interest. I never set out to "quit" the Internet, but it feels like it left me behind. I can't call it home anymore, I feel increasingly alienated from online culture, and outside of a few relics like wizchan, I spend my time alone with my thoughts. I don't follow any news, I'm not on social media, and I haven't consumed more than a couple of hours of entertainment in a year for a long time. I find it all disgusting, and what it's done to the culture makes me want to vomit.

 No.216066

That's how I live, it's surreal honestly. I can't sustain any sort of identity anymore, it's too fractured. I've had some online friends over the last 10 years but that all fell apart and most of them are gone. I can't go back in life and try again. I go through these states of feeling either dead or with so much bliss I can't describe it where I'll connect to a million different things from a million previous states in my life at once and feel more through them. I'm going back to go upwards. How do I even describe what I am going through now? I'm so close to it, I don't know what it is though but I was closer years upon years ago but took years of detours to learn more about things before going back to it. Now I know what it's feeding itself through so I use these old places on the internet connected to the experience net to live closest to where I'm at least as satisfied as I'm going to be but everyone left so here I am now.

 No.216071

How I describe this feeling: Like being out of the loop. Like every other internet user is in on some big joke, but I didn't get the memo.

Everyone else just understood that "you're here forever" was a joke. As they entered into their late 20s they left the image boards to do grown-up things. They were in on the joke and knew you aren't REALLY supposed to be there forever.
But there's a handful of people who didn't realize it was a joke and that they were supposed to do the opposite of what they were told. For whatever reason, we weren't informed, maybe the metaphorical email was caught in our spam folder, maybe the metaphorical letter was lost in the mail. Whatever the reason, we just didn't get the memo. And so as the rest of the anons of our generation moved on as they aged, we stayed behind. So here we are, a handful of late 20s early 30s hanging around, not realizing everyone else we could possibly relate to is gone. We're around literal children and teenagers who are aging INTO the internet while we were supposed to age OUT.

We can't possibly relate. We're uncomfortable listening to kids talking teenage melodrama and inconsequential bullshit. Every thread on other image boards is like, 16 year olds pretending to be 18 year olds, trying to feel validated over their choices relating to their high school "romance" (and they try to pretend it's "uni" instead).
And they're uncomfortable around us because we're "that old weird guy". As a result, we feel distanced, because the only other anons are kids that we can't relate to, and the people we could relate to at least a little bit have left the building.

I dunno, I feel like I didn't describe my feeling well enough, and I think maybe this is just something I feel personally. I just get frustrated when I go to a board and every thread reeks of kids pretending to be young adults so they can get advice on petty high school garbage, and the only grown-up discussion is a few normalfag adults that I can't get along with. Makes you feel completely left out.

 No.216074

>>216071
How do you remember your own teenage years on imageboards wiz? Do you think that teenage posts of your generation were of higher quality than the teenage posts of this one? I don't doubt that the whole love conundrum was present in everyone's formative years, but current teenagers are growing up in a completely different cultural climate, which definitely shows.

 No.216075

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>>216031

Can we have the tldr; of your story Anon?

 No.216076

>>216031
r9k isn't what it used to be wizbro. Most of the people like us got ran off the board or are too scared to post in fear of being shamed by normals. 4chan is basically reddit now. I stopped going there last year.

 No.216077

People = shit.
Just consume media mindlessly, kill time.

 No.216078

It's a culture thing, like that other poster said. Back when /r9k/ was decent, the border between anonymous imageboards, pseudonymous cesspools(i.e. reddit) and real-life landfills(i.e. facebook) was clear cut. There wasn't much interaction between them. After 2015 and the massive politicization of imageboards and news coverage, everything changed. 4chan's biggest boards became part of public discourse. Discord, which is practically heaven for hyper-socialized teens, became popular around that time as well.
Imageboard memes became just internet memes. Remember when pepe and wojak where just some funny frog and pole on krautchan? Yeah, that's gone now. They became an internet meme, not a krautchan meme. Kim kardashian posting pepe, becoming a twitch emote etc., pepe became "the edgy frog". And wojak became a fucking meme template of just some guy: boomer, zoomer, bloomer, doomer, coomer, -oomer.
There are still some places on the internet that didn't become corrupted by teens. Mainly it's specialized forums for games that are too hard for young minds, or imageboards that enact strict gatekeeping policies.

 No.216082

>>216078
Discord became the missing link that ties the entire internet together into one big piece of shit.
I'm surprised mention of it isn't banend on 4chan, it ruins the website, /vg/ is a great example.

 No.216083

>>216082

tell me. Why does the mentally ill youth love the discord so much?

 No.216108

You can post whatever you want if you can deal with the psychic pain that comes with the insults you will receive. Normalthink is a mental illness that spreads worse than coronavirus, there are many who will seek to put anyone down for not adhering to social norms and ideals because it allows them to feel superior. You just have to ignore these people. I tend to pity them. They only lash out because they themselves are weak and insecure and trapped in a mode of judging themselves by standards that make no sense. It will only hurt if you fear the truth. If you can make peace with the truth and you don't shrink from it when it is thrown in your face and used as a cudgel to beat you down, it won't hurt you, at least not enough that you can't just brush it right off.

 No.216114

>>216078
>or imageboards that enact strict gatekeeping policies.
Can you list it, please?
>>216044
>Reddit is a bit better
Only as a platform for absorbing content. The karma system and hypocritical behavior of people are disgusting.
>>216075
What a good picture!

 No.216117

>>216114
>imageboards that enact strict gatekeeping policies
crystal.cafe

 No.216118

>>216117
I see nothing of value there, even if it weren't filled with succubi

 No.216126

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>I'm so far gone that my life looks like some made up story for trolling

Even as a wizkid, everything personal I've ever shared has gotten this reaction. Embrace solitude, cut out the internet, find a hobby. Being this far detached from the herd is a good thing. Monks in cells, wizards in NEETdens.

"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying "you are mad; you are not like us."

- St. Anthony

 No.216128

>>216031
Same, wish i could find some fellow russian speaking friend online and leave this shitty place so it can rot away without me. But that'll never happen and i've never deserved to have one anyway.

 No.216130

>>216074
>>216078
I don't know how to explain it myself but the quality is much different now, it's lacking a soul.

>>216108
You know what this may have something to do with it, the internet has gotten a lot more hostile. Less people just spontaneously post things even if it is just shitposting or some general thread where people have a conversation about their thoughts on this or that. So what does happen is a constant stream of meme noise. Combine that with facebook level social media crowds that would years back never venture around visiting all these anonymous image boards and smaller places and you have a disaster. I find a lot of younger people on the internet now almost just communicate in meme's, when I first came around as a teenager we had words and simple conversations. Meme's were just silly pictures that didn't mean much. We came from a world not completely raised on the internet and certainly not this modern nightmare internet dominated by big social media hysteria. In a way you can't really blame them if that is all they know. Times are bad and getting worse.

 No.216132

>>216114
>Can you list it, please?
I'd rather not. Seeing as how wizchan is in the middle of a mini-raid from 4chan, a lot of teen lurkshits are eager to invade more and more imageboards. And it's very likely that you will just not fit in. On one of them there is a half-joke that you need to lurk for 2 years to be able to fit in. So yeah, you'd have more luck finding a good community by just creating a new one, rather than joining an existing one.

 No.216134

>>216114
>imageboards that enact strict gatekeeping policies

tohno-chan.com
7chan.org

 No.216135

>>216114
theres pastebins around with huge lists of these 3-users forums

 No.216136

>>216132
A question: are these communities for something specific, or just for general things?

 No.216140

>>216075
Well, first thing is that I'm a 30yo NEET who never worked. Understandable on wizchan, right, but on any other site, including 4chan, that's already enough for people to hate on you.
But I also never had a cellphone, never had a bank account, never had facebook or twitter, etc. I feel like an off-the-grind crazy guy excet I'm not as cool, I only got so far without these things because of my parents.
There are a few similar people on wizchan (I remember a 32yo and a 34yo NEET posting once), but the lack of a smartphone seens to be unique in my case. EVERYONE has a smartphone nowadays, even kids, even NEETs on wizchan, but not me. Makes me feel like a weirdo.

 No.216141

>>216140
>off-the-grind
off the grid*

 No.216143

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>>216031
4chan /r9k/ got Poe's law to oblivion with normal and literal gay shit, then again it was the same with feels/loneliness stories.

Bigger traffic leads to easier way for normalshit cancer to spread. That kind of people wont go to places where their epic ironic shitpost of them will stay static for hours with no replies until a mods just unceremoniously deletes it.

A problem of people on 4chan (and the internet in general) is that they are fixated in a non-ending stream of content coming so people find themselves hitting the refresh button for several hours to see if the magical gold nugget comes out from the sea of shit.

As I am right now, I find that slower communities have come to suit me better since you can post something, go on your day, and see the same thread still there maybe with a few (usually better thought) replies.

>>216130
>I find a lot of younger people on the internet now almost just communicate in meme's, when I first came around as a teenager we had words and simple conversations
Someone told me 10 years ago that internet memes would replace people's thoughts completely. Damn that dude if he wasn't right.

>>216140
Don't sweat it too much Wiz.
They probably thought you were a new kid trying too hard to fit in, something they probably see themselves as unconsciously, and barked at you.

 No.216146

>>216031
>/r9k/
>even liking it post 2012
>even using it post 2014 in good faith
>even using it at all in current year

It is not 2007 anymore. Even on IRC normalfaggots are going to be afoot in current year.
>>216044
>Reddit is a bit better
Enjoy being censored by social justice warriors that can't realize they're hyper vigilant.

 No.216148

>>216114
I really only use it as a place to absorb content. The karma system is stupid, both in theory and practice.

>>216146
Eh, it's no worse than being yelled at on 4chan for not wanting to suck Hitler's cock.

That reminds me, everything online is becoming hyper politicized. Everything seems to be either a leftist shithole or a rightist one.

 No.216150

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>>216140
>But I also never had a cellphone, never had a bank account, never had facebook or twitter, etc
This is true for me too. I'm also NEET but not as old as you. I never did any shopping by myself, never traveled alone anywhere farther than 8kms from my home alone, never paid any bills, never did any official business by myself either. I also don't know how to drive. You aren't alone.

 No.216155

>>216136
Big ones are always generalized, with various thematic boards. The /b/ board is always the fastest one though. Different communities have different atmosphere that their respective moderation team tries to maintain. One has posters roleplaying as cute anime succubi, the other is for neets with a ruleset similar to wizchan, but with a containment board for crab problems. There are others, but they're on a smaller side, smaller than wizchan. And even they have their problems.
As you can see, even if an ib doesn't have teen invaders, it can still be shit. "Strict gatekeeping policies" are only good for maintaing traditions and keeping out invaders that refuse to assimilate. Traditions can outlive themselves and lose their charm, and the invaders can slowly change what is considered "cool".
It feels good to be a part of an "in-group" for a while, but it gets old fast. Especially if an imageboard is small and the in-group consists of literally 3 people, including yourself. It also often crosses the border between anonymous and not anonymous socialization. Lots of times my in-group buddies wanted to deepen our """friendship""" by taking off our anonymity masks and meeting in person, getting on discord, adding to friends list on non-anonymous social media, etc. I just bail and never visit the imageboard again. I just can't stomach being a part of a clique.

 No.216177

>>216031
Can you share what you posted in / rk9 /? Just one last time, although I understand you and give me a general idea … it's the same reason that I left social networks, I just don't feel part of anything anymore, almost any kind of problem that people have and that has come to sites similar to this, it sucks I know.

 No.216178

>>216150
This, I had my first smart phone at age 21, I practically begged my mother to buy it for me. Why? just to distract me at home, read something there or listen to music, nothing more.

removing that insignificant detail, we are the same guy

 No.216180

I sometimes think it's due to the increased logging and surveillance. I remember being able to post on 4chan with Tor. These days even VPNs don't work. The more shy, reclusive, intelligent and technically attuned people won't dare to post on a site like 4chan which is constantly perused by most Western governments. Only the dumb and loose people remain.

 No.216181

Unfortunately there are not many places that serve as a pleasant refuge for wizards or practitioners, wizchan is a lake on a large continent of land.

 No.216182

>> It's not a refuge for nerds

Its not anymore. But please tell me, wheres the new refuge?

 No.216183

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>>216031
I know what you mean. Simply put for me there's nowhere to go and nothing to do, I just use the Internet as a raw resource for anime. I've nobody to talk to because the vast majority of users on imageboards are now zoomers, and zoomers have a profound lack of sorts. Nothing about them is authentic or has any depth. They truly are just empty vessels for memes and corporate products and opinions, to the point I don't see them as human.

Every site, every board, every community fell under the onslaught of normalfags and zoomers. There's not an iota of content anywhere anymore, yet alone discussions. Notice how even memes are dead, truly dead. The garbage that passes for memes today is just variations of wojak and pepe, because they take no effort to create. Compare this with the bursting of creativity in the old days. Of course I'm aware that the death of memes is also due to alphabet agencies, who have a vested interest in keeping everything sterile and using said meme templates to shill their own garbage (it takes no effort or creativity to edit a wojak, thus that saves them man hours). But in a deeper sense zoomers and normalfags have nothing to say at all, unless they're shilling their viral load of say trannyism or whatever else they've been programmed to do. The sense of fun and fun itself has been utterly banished from the Internet, and both hate and antagonism prevailed. It's common for me to post something on 4chan (/co/ to be precise) for it to be met with a barrage of hate. Most of the times this happens when my post is a simple "I like this because X" and that has no controversial, provocative or debatable content. Many seem to use imageboards as places to vent their anger, hate and absence of quality of life on random people. They aren't trolling, they genuinely use the boards purely to display their generalized anger over their own lives.

The root of the problem for people like us is that there's nowhere to go. Back in the early 2000s the Internet was our escape from a sterile reality into a realm of pure wonder. Now the Internet is that sterile reality, and the actual reality is even worse.

I'd also like to add a simple observation that everything seems to be in total decline, putrefying and rotting, be it fiction or people or places or anything else. Everything seems to be imploding. And no, I'm not referring to the corona psyop. This has been the case for years now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RFunvF0mDw

 No.216194

>>216183
An example of a very good post. I agree with everything you said.

 No.216196

>>216143
Yeah then there's people needing the internet to be a constant stream of shit all the time with no brakes. I think this is just a side effect of what happens when people primarily using smart shit to access the internet take over. It's one extreme or the other in most cases. Dead or a internet traffic jam. Wizchan here is surprisingly near the middle when it comes to how active it is though. I think this is because it's a classic image board format, a lot of older people from other image boards probably lurk here with nothing much else to do online anymore, and that it's one of those places the rest of the meme noise can't touch creating the perfect pace that almost makes me kinda nostalgic.

>>216183
You get it! When people say the internet is now sterile they don't mean they want it to be a constant edge fest of hate and shock value. The internet was never in your face with that even if it was always there in places and trolling was still king all around the board that a more anonymous internet opened the gates too. Especially with the overlaying theme that the entire physical realm of earth is going haywire, the state of the internet is just a sub disaster. We are the witnesses of one of the craziest times on our planet, should we be grateful to be born to see this unfold? Don't know but either way there's starting be not much else in my perspective to do but sit back and enjoy the show. It's a madhouse.

 No.216197

i only use the internet for download things i dont care about human interaction

 No.216198

Some boards on 4chan aren't too bad like /an/ for example. It is about animals and nature and for the most part it's quite comfy and has a wiz friendly culture. Friends of animals and nature seem to be more down to earth and acceptable than other people. Of course there is the occasional bullshit.

 No.216202

>>216071
>But there's a handful of people who didn't realize it was a joke
Speaking of that concept, I lurked on 4chan for over 10 years because when I first got there, anons told me to. Gotta fit in. I Put in the time, got acclimated, and by the time I felt comfortable posting, the culture had completely changed not just once, but at least three times, first with early r9k/pol, then the GG shit, and most recently 2016. Nothing is the same as it was and just as I started to grasp acceptable lingo and string together conversations, the floor went out beneath me. Nothing is the same, no one understands me, and the few who do accuse me of being some "tryhard" or of fitting in. I've been doing the same thing on Wizardchan since 2014, back before the site was changed. I've posted maybe a dozen times here. First post on /dep/, talking about how I'm sick a lot and I have a very bad hygiene issue and no one believed me. I have nowhere to go. No one is as depraved as me, and I don't mean that in a bragging way. I have no idea how to get it across. I am sick and miserable and hate it and no one believes me or cares. Not even the therapists I've been to over the last 15 years. They're paid to listen and help but they simply don't believe me, even when my mother backs me up and tells them the truth of my issues.

Anyway, I remember when this website would get you banned or run off, practically, for mentioning anything related to 4chan. There were posts on /games/ and /hob/ talking about friends and meeting people last time I was here. This website is clearly not the same and I'm sure I will never fit in here either. Are 4chan memes even banned anymore? Posting 3D succubi? Give it another year or two and you'll have posters complaining about succubus issues. I'm convinced this website is run or at least heavily monitored by literal monsters trying to expose lonely weirdos who just want some semblance of human connection. Their well is running dry though, there's hardly anyone pathetic anymore. Mostly Chads who work out and have jobs and just so happen to be wizards.

 No.216203

I rarely post anymore, let alone visit this site. The environment here is too hostile and tasteless, I couldn't care less about this piece of shit site. If my life situation improved I would never look at this site again, I just come back out of boredom. My life is terrible but I don't really care to even talk about it here anymore or find people that I can relate to, because this site's userbase is garbage and most of them could be called normies for all I care. I don't even care if they are 'wizards', they are disgusting and tasteless people and I don't care to exchange another word with them ever again.

 No.216205

>>216180
Who cares about getting caught anymore. Fbi visited me last month, I wouldn't worry about it.

 No.216208

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I can never relate to threads like these. They always make me feel like the most isolated & disconnected person on the planet. I've simply always felt alone on the internet. All you people, (and when I say "you people", I mean wizards who actually once seemed to feel connected to some prior community, or state of the internet, or what have you) with your heydays of internet usage & community. I've been using the internet for decades, but have always felt disconnected & alone. No friends, no acquaintances, no "good times", no sense of belonging. It was all just nothing. An empty haze. It's just that now it seems more & more are coming down to my level, albeit for different reasons. I mean, if it were 2000-2006 again, all you people wouldn't be feeling or saying any of this kind of stuff. Meanwhile, I'd still be exactly the same as I've always been. In that sense, you people still have things to look back on fondly & to bemoan the absence or change of these things. As for me, I can't even comprehend or understand such things, since I have no point of reference whatsoever for it ever being otherwise than what it is right now for all of you.

>>216077

Yep. That's about all I've ever had to fall back on.

 No.216223

>>216031
weird people get attention, normies want attention. normies fill up weirdo safespaces like r9k and wiz.

 No.216224

I never had any online contacts or anything like that. Visiting different forums and boards I have always felt like a permanent outsider, even on a couple where I posted quite a bit, even here. Often it is obvious that other posters are in some sort of clique or have off-site contact, and apart from that people always bring up things/posters/memes that happened before I came to the site, that sort of thing. And it has always been obvious that most of them are much more involved in real life activities than me.
Other people, I guess they have stronger personalities, seem to be able to insinuate themselves into such places but I always feel like a permanent newcomer, and apparently seem like it to others.
For me I think it is just an extension of my real life social retardation. In truth the internet has always been an extension of real life populated mostly by normals, at much as the internet is an extension of real life and has been for as long as I have been on it. I don't think that part is new at all, even "loser" boards have always been full of complaints about girlfriends and "when I am at the lib with my mates…" and "I felt sad once but then I grew up." In that respect I think nothing is particularly novel about the current situation.

 No.216228

>>216031
r9k has been thoroughly normiefied. I've tried to get 28+ threads going and its just normalfaggots shouting me down for being such a loser. oh how the times have changed

 No.216242

>>216228
I only went to r9k for a while, probably around 2011-2012 and it was already pretty well normified. The place was full of succubi and guys who had friends, had succubusfriends, went to parties, drank with people, etc. At worst some of them might have been a bit depressed for whatever reason, maybe a bit less successful at getting dates than they wished, had slightly weird interests or just felt bad about not being full-blown chads. But I also remember being shouted down for being an actual loser even back then, probably why I left. Ever since then I've wondered how it manages to retain a reputation for being a board for losers.
On a similar note a few years ago I browsed some reddit crab boards for a while and it was the same sort of thing. Many of the posters admitted to being sexhavers (not surprisingly, this applied especially to the posters espousing the kind of militant/violent views that attracted attention) and they would get mad at actual virgins, asocials, and losers. So I tuned out from that too.
It's a shame but I tend to agree with the guy who posted that wizchan probably isn't even mostly virgins. Normos really do end up overrunning everything.

 No.216247

>>216205

Visited for what, though? Do you have anything to hide?

Some things aren't worth being caught for at all, but I still can't make myself care enough to use protective measures. I just use a small ISP that doesn't block/flag anything and my workplace guest WiFi (multicarrier DC) which they don't seem to give a shit about either. Both are probably ticking time bombs. Even my normie phone is full of unencrypted contraband.

 No.216251

>>216140
I have a partly broken Nokia E63 without sim-card, sometimes I play Java games

 No.216253

>>216132
>you need to lurk for 2 years to be able to fit in
I actually did that when i discovered 4chan. Can't believe how different it was in the 2000s

 No.216259

>>216228
There are actual succubi there.

 No.216292

>>216228
In my experience some attention whore namefag teenager would come in saying "woe is me I'm 19 and my world is over" and derail everything for asspats.

 No.216361

>>216035
>especially if you don't have sex constantly on your mind like them
>t. the only guy mentioning sex

 No.216364

>>216031
The bar to use the internet is too low now.

 No.216366

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>>216140

If you need help. Just ask, I'll help you anon or if you just need someone to talk with. I'll leave a burner email. wizhelper@mail.com

 No.216369

>>216366
stop avatarfagging. Go kill yourself like you said you would.

 No.216370

I have always felt alone on the Internet. I have approached a sense of belonging on Krautchan /int/ and here on wizchan, but the anonymity has always kept it a lonesome belonging. In my case, increase in loneliness seems to stem from generational shift. I find the culture and tastes of the new prime cohort (zoomers) to be utterly opposed to my own. As their cultural presence increases, so does my isolation. Soulless is an apt description for them, but to be fair they have had the misfortune of maturing in a cultural wasteland of censorship, mob-mentality, money whoring, and artistic bankruptcy. Another factor is broad access to Internet allowing low people with their low standards to shit up everything as many people in this thread have alluded to. This is nothing new. AOL, webtv were waves of this prior to smartphones and facebook. It makes me wonder if old usenet and BBS users in 2007 viewed channers as obnoxious little cretins the same way I now whine about cliquey discord zoomers.

 No.216371

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>>216369

you got the wrong wiz. I would never kill myself. Nor, do I advocate for suicide.

"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."

 No.216372

>>216242
>only virgins

How is it that we almost never come to meet each other in real world, men?

 No.216377

>>216371
>>216371
he also said something pro suicide but jewtube has deleted it

 No.216378

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>>216054
> I haven't consumed more than a couple of hours of entertainment in a year for a long time
same, i thought that all that free time that provided my neet status would enable me to read,watch,play a lot of media but even for something as meaningfull i failed, all that time was spend being depressed, doing nothing, wanting to do something but ending doing nothing. I overrated myself, i thought i'd be able to do something with my life by being a neet as i failed being a norman, i thought i'd reach happiness but i failed. social life isn't for me, neet life isn't for me either, i'm that much of a loser..
i now it's not the threads subject nor your posts pardon me

 No.216381

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>>216377

are you think of this quote?

"Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized"

 No.216383

>>216377
Hitler was pro euthanasia, not pro suicides, the weimar-era suicide epidemic of germany was one of the things that the NS Government of germany struggled a lot with and they just ended up not covering it in the press any more.

 No.216399

>>216383
Well German leaders are more amenable to suicide. Frederick the Great was going to kill himself when he was going to lose.

 No.216403

>>216381
Enjoy your Jewish version of Hitler being a monster without empathy for animals and people suffering

 No.217107

>>216202
One of the worst things is not no one believing in you but no one believing you.

 No.217148

we live only as a meme to be mocked. Even here trolls look for the slightest unwizardly like behavior to mock you as a "failed-normie". Life is just the successful shitting on the weak. Even when I talk about my problems living with family as a man child all I get is the response "why you poor bruh? Just make money and move out". Considering the amount of social networking you have to do to get any job, I doubt any wizard who claims to be independently wealthy or has a good paying job is just another troll.

 No.217170

>>217148
> The money Tesla made from licensing his AC patents made him independently wealthy and gave him the time and funds to pursue his own interests.

 No.217171

>>217170
and don't project your personal failures on others

 No.217174

Tesla had an eidetic memory. You can get away with a lot of deficiencies if you have an ability that exceeds the norm.

 No.217210

I had a phone in high school and it didn't make any difference since I never used it to socialize

 No.217212

The siege is closing in, there aren't many places left.

 No.217219

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I was one of the handful of magicchan regulars from it's conception. Decided I'd come visit here for the first time in years just to see what's up.

All I'm going to say is you all are not in good company and If you feel like you are, it will not last very long. The history of this site, it's administration, and notoriety should be kept in mind if you believe otherwise. Don't be the person left alone with nothing after everyone else has moved on, passed away, or have been replaced by younger individuals you become more and more distanced from. This is an earnest plea I know few will pay attention to until it is too late.

 No.217221

I know how you feel. I used to post a lot on /r9k/ when there were more social rejects on there but I'd always be around the level of "trolling" Nowadays it's impossible to communicate with someone from that place. On here is getting worse as each post I make is dissected and because of it I'm a fake wizard or a normie invader. I'm a 34 year old shut in. I DO fit the definition of a wizard, no desire to change that but somehow I'm not allowed to feel lonely? I hate the guys who tell me I'm a fake wizard

 No.217222

>>217221
It was all supposed to be a joke you know. You do fit in if you want to. The problem seems to be that there aren't any nice place on the internet anymore, including here

 No.217230

>>216077
That's what i realised and started doing since like six months , video games , movies , music

 No.217508

Consider yourselves luckier (((all other countries-headquartered/located advertisers/malvertisers/machine translation companies/corporations))) did not yet use/misappropriate [your own native ethnic heritage languages].

 No.217563

>>216044
>Reddit is a bit better

 No.218877

>>216031
>>216208
> No friends, no acquaintances, no "good times", no sense of belonging. It was all just nothing. An empty haze
Pretty much same for me.Even the hardcore wizards had good times playing mmos,memories,friends…
I've always been a lonely lurker and to be honest the older i get the less I give a fuck

 No.218936

I always been more of an observer, or if i took part of something, it was for a biref moment of air that svept out of our lungs. I realized i don't like having friends, neither in real life or online, its just a hazzle, a pain in the ass and i've absolute zero energy to hand out except for my own. But that's not the same as wanting attention, cause thats something i always searched for, beeing seen and accepted as an induvduial. I spent countless hours online doing things to be seen. I've watched weeks worth of anime so i could disscuss it with people, but can't remember a single time i've done so. Over the 10 years worth of runescape i never really talked with anyone. I lurked alot.

The only fond memory i've of early internet is youtube as it was as a community back in 2005/6. I used to make amvs. It was fun and creative, it had deapth to it with real thoughts behind the comments. There are no one around that even meantion this anymore, it was like myspace but for anime.

Internet these days are hollow. There are to many voices out there, to many that was to be heard, seeking for attention just as i once did. Its pointless these days.

Im afraid when this place get know by the public, which is already in process of so. After that there wont be anything left. Im always searching for other chans, but none will succeed.

 No.218939

I'm at the point where I know I should get off the internet, where spending 10+ hours in work would not impact the quality of my free time at all (actually it could benefit it if I had money to blow), but I just can't do it. Everywhere sucks. I dream of dying but also doubt getting off the hook is as easy as that.

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 No.218951

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Yeah I think that feel is now the norm for everyone who has been using the internet as their primary source for human contact since they were young.
It's literally impossible to have any type of communication with the people on 4chan. And 4chan is the only place with a minimum of traffic where you can go since they deleted 8chan (the current 8kun is absolute crap). What else exists besides 4chan? Discord, which I don't understand and it seems that you already have to know people to get in a server; Instagram & Twitter which are peak normalfaggotry, and that's it. And like I was saying, it's impossible to talk with people on 4chan. It seems like they're all bots. It's always the same dull response of someone calling you a faggot, mindless shitposting, BBC threads incessantly, porn, etc. You get there and your IQ is like 10 points lower; it's like descending into absurdity.
Unlike other anons, I don't think this place ever gets public. I think it'll just die slowly. The userbase isn't growing, it seems like it's the same people who browsed it in 2014 and we're all older. When you get old, you don't have much to say (at least in my experience). You rarely want to say something, but even if you wanted to, there's simply nothing else to say. I have talked about everything in a lot of threads over the years. Feels like every conversation it's pointless, like we're not even communicating.
Honestly, the internet sucks.

 No.218953

>>217219
And what do you suggest? Perhaps you know somewhere else where we can go?

 No.218956

>>218951
>try to play a game with 'channers
>they're really horny porn obsessed retards who spout off memes like its comedy
>talk way too much
>barely even play games, just watch really lame modern seasonal anime and talk about VRtubers

Its just too much

 No.218957

>>216031
I'm sure it's partly us getting older but the internet really does feel more hostile and hateful than before. It reminds me of my highschool days where everything was a popularity contest

 No.218958

>>218956
It's exactly the same with wizards except replace memes with larp

 No.218959

>>216031
No, people on the internet are, at their core, exactly the same as they were 15 years ago. You have the idiotic kids/young teens, the edgy older teens/young adults, and then the lame clueless adults. Sure, culture changes, but these stereotypes are still the basis of all people on the internet, haven't seen it change one bit and don't expect it to.

>>218953
He is just suffering from some sort of persecutory delusion. The handful of people that actually posted on magicchan all crossposted here, it's why the place ended up getting about one post a day. Dead imageboards aren't automatically wizardly like a lot of people here like to suggest.

 No.219026

r9k is a pretty robotic place,but the norms are there for their daily r/4chan pickup so they can gather points and admiration on reddit.In the midst of that they cannot keep their normalfag mouths shut.
You know they're kind of the lowest of the low of the normal sphere, they hold on to this notion that they are chad if they try to give joebrogan/jordan peterson advice and pick on the lowest hanging fruit.
1# rule is to not give attention to normalfags, that's what kills them.
Loads of "succubi" seem to be making threads this last few years,easy attention I guess
Honestly I have no clue what Im talking about that place never had a singular vibe to it.
But there really is quite a good amount of autist,even over 30s

 No.219046

>>219026
Every other post on r9k is about girlfriends or friends.

>i want a gf

>my gf broke up with me and i is sad :(
>i had a fight with my friends, what do

That kind of shit.

 No.219070

>>218951
I feel you man, also is that classic? What are you, a normie?

 No.219072

Happened to a native language forum i was posting on before even discovering wizchan but i don't care that much. I'd be pissed if i was younger but as i aged and before it happened i came to the conclusion that having some sense of belonging on the internet is mostly illusory and that i don't really want it anyway. It's more revolting and disgusting than sad to see the twitter crowd/succubus/kids shamelessly overtaking some place so i just went away and never gave it too much tought.

 No.219077

>>216071
Yeah I used to post a lot years and years ago when I was underagedb&, and I remember so many people being much older than me. Now when I post on imageboards I'm definitely older than most of the kids on there. I wonder what happened to all the old anons from long ago. Do they move on? When will I finally be able to leave?

 No.219080

>>219077
they grew up, imageboards are toys to teens and young twenties as lego are to kids

 No.219132

>>219080
Yes, but WHERE DO THEY GO

This question has been asked for many years around here, yet noone seems to know

 No.219133

>>219132
>>219132
I don't know about other imageboards but I'm pretty certain most wizards normed it up eventually, settled down with a fat/ugly/mentally ill succubus and had kids, found a job and became a "man". You know, your average dad guy. Probably they found a few friends too among their co-workers they hang out with and get drunk instead of posting here.

 No.219134

>>219133
And not even ONE of them returned to tell the tale or even check back in?

Something is spooky here

 No.219135

>>219134
What would be the point in them telling their stories? They would get banned the minute they mentioned they lost their virginity.
I don't see any conspiracy here. You would be surprised how quickly people can jump ships and forget about their previous life.

 No.219136

>>219134
common, do you even know who hotwheels is?
and for what? writing a whole essay just to be banned and deleted and insulted while they can just forget this meme and enjoy their new lives with a cute girlffriend?
and actually there have been cases of fallen wizards reporting in form of short sentences which was deleted swiftly

 No.219141

>>216140
I'm a 31 year old NEET, the only reason I have a phone is because I got on the NEETbux and they required I get one so they can call me when I have to go so my bux review. I've had the phone for nearly 4 years and I haven't texted anyone outside of my immediate family.

At least I can use it to play OSRS mobile.

 No.219143

>>216140
You definitely should get a smartphone. I'm on my third one by now because mom and dad wants the newer model while the old one still works perfectly fine. A lot of people here frown upon having a smartphone but you shouldn't listen to them. It's pretty cool to browse wizchan while taking a dump or watch crap on youtube while taking a shower, it's a pretty weird feeling, to be online while in the shower.

 No.219205

>>219070
wow classic yes. not playing it anymore. but if playing a mmorpg makes me a normie then so be it. this is one of the most retarded things i've heard in wizchan honestly

 No.219206

>>219134
1) they become normies
2) suicide
3) just stop wasting their time in imageboards and just go to hobby communities or places where social life is not an issue to be talked about

 No.219208

I don't understand what it's like to have hobbies and I am unable to learn new things so I'm stuck forever like this.

 No.219212

>>219207
There's always been a tendency for people to want to say "I graduated from this shit" or "I got a succubus" like for a long time a lot of guys had the idea they'd be the next desha otoko.

More desperate ones also crack. Some guy reported he cracked at 31 and fucked a hooker and was going to ask her out on a date.


>>219208

Same.

 No.219278

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It's awful. I think the real chan culture shift happened with 2016, but what's happening now is ten times worse. 4chan is no longer indistinguishable from anywhere else online. Another sterile, ironic, self-aware normie-hole where everything's busy and zoomer meme culture dominates.

The Discord/Instagram/Reddit trio was the final nail in the coffin, I think. The atmosphere and memes that come from those sites have spread across the internet like a plague. Small holdouts like Wizchan exist, but it's hard to escape. It seems like every anon has 10-15 internet friends they voice chat every night with in their discord server, speaking entirely in memes. They're a rung below normies but still manage to be just as uninteresting and bland. Fucking memes, killing absolutely all sincerity and heart. It's all been replaced by this post-ironic, self-aware retard-speak that exists only to give digital asspats to those "in the know".

I know a lot of anons here may not feel the same, but I'm very happy that Wizchan still exists and is active.

 No.219327

>>219278
> I think the real chan culture shift happened with 2016
No, the shift happened in 2012, there were shifts happening earlier on but the big shift was in 2012. It was around that time when geek culture went mainstream and big youtubers/internet personalities started deep dives into geek subcultures and internet culture.

2016, I think, was like a one-time throwback.

 No.219335

>>219327
>It was around that time when geek culture went mainstream and big youtubers/internet personalities started deep dives into geek subcultures and internet culture.
I really hate this more than anything else, even all the ironic memes and shit. These e-celebs take something and then pick it apart when they have no grasp on the community they are studying. Then they show it to these dumb fucking normals who then ruin it for everyone else. Like these game reviews who talk about SS!3, and now SS13 is unplayable without normgroids trying to make epic troll montages. It's like fucking negan and wizchan, he threw this whole site under the bus cause he was some outsider faggot from 4chan /pol/ who thought we are the reason he's loser bitch. I can't wait for them to stumble upon some community that's too much for them to handle, like furries or lolicons, and then they destroy themselves in the process.

 No.219338

>>219335
>that's too much for them to handle, like furries or lolicons
People post >shadman memes
I don't think it's going to have thr intended effect you think it's going to.

 No.219342

>>219278
Good post. You hit the nail on the head.

 No.219345

>>219338
Yeah but the memes are more popular than shadman is himself now. And the whole point of the meme is mocking him cause he draws nasty stuff. Even the normalfags who have gotten into anime and exposed to loli, constantly makes jokes about how lolis are illegal, not about how they like them. It's a separate culture of mockery, not an infiltration of the genuine culture.

 No.219346

>>216071
sometimes i feel like i should leave but there's nowhere to go. they control real life and the internet

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>>219278
How can you call that site "sterile"? All they do is call each other faggots 24/7 and attaching smug images to those posts. Shitting on everything and everyone non-stop just to fit in among the livestock. It's the opposite of sterile, it's a septic tank. For example, last time I had a chance to talk about anime with someone who actually enjoys anime was somewhere around 2013. I don't remember what happened next but something happened because last time I visited /a/ for example someone called me an "ironic weeb" and attached a picture of "ironic weeb anime compilation"(?). I was a bit offended but mostly because of the perversion western "otaku" culture has become or always was and I didn't notice. I don't understand anything. It seems like in order to talk to someone you to experience a forced lobotomy because human language became redundant.
Correct me if I'm delusional, anyone. Maybe I just can't have "fun" with everyone and enjoy hilarious catchphrase threads or threads for jerking off? In fact, I think my way of thinking is sterile but not 4shit where everyone can do what they want because they don't care about stuff. That's why I don't think it was a right word or maybe you had a different meaning to it. I'm not provoking or challenging of course. Just thinking out loud for the first time in many many months.

 No.219348

100% feel alone on the internet

im a special class of loser, im not some obese polish neet subhuman with 12 bracrabls who lives on 5 euro a day, but I have been browsing 4chan, 8, various little altchans, a LOT of manosphere/redpill forums like sluthate/Lookism.net and r/crabs-crabs.co for many years.

i probably need to just make my own forum

 No.219349

>>219347
The thing about 4chan is that the shitposting and irony have come full circle to become sterile again. Like you said, everyone needs to shit on stuff to fit in, so opinions are all the same. X bad Y good. Can't say this is good people will think you're a shill/troll. In this way it is sterile.

 No.219352

>>219347
Basically what the other anon said with the addition of: 4chan (and most other chans) are basically normies screaming "gtfo normies" to fit in. The "realness" of 4chan has been lost.

 No.219361

>>219348
>bracrabls

It's perfect


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