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 No.228357

Everything is too difficult to deal with. IRL the pace/social expectations/etc. are too much so I don't last. I got an independent contractor thing for transcription, but it was the worst because the audio is really really bad and they expect you get it perfect even if it's just a bunch of muffled things. Like it feels any excuse to screw you out of money when the rate is peanuts already.

I applied for some assistance and basically having any money in your bank account above $100 in the past month disqualifies you. Fucking nightmare.

It just feels like everything is working against me so LDAR becomes the only option, but LDAR makes me too lethargic to kill myself. I guess I'll end up on the streets at some point and I can just die of heatstroke/starvation/etc.

 No.228361

>>228357
BIOLOGY

 No.228367

>>228357
Well, you're probably right that they're trying to screw you out of the money. Accept it as a fact of life for such low-paying jobs, do your best and see how much you get. Don't get too emotional when they screw you over.

Just my advice. Also, in better-paying jobs, they wouldn't be so inclined to screw you over. So maybe somehow try to get them, I know it's hard.

 No.228379

>>228357
You won't die of starvation. Stop the LARP

 No.228380

>>228379
Shitty nutrition, diseases from other hobos, getting beat up, weather, etc. are more likely to do me in yeah. People throw around LARP way too much because it is very likely someone will die if they become homeless or at least end up with serious health issues.

 No.228431

>>228357
I'm 36 and I've just been going from shitty pt job to shitty pt job since 18. Whatever pays me enough to keep buying weed, I don't care.

 No.228555

>>228357
Live in the middle of nowhere and grow your own food.

 No.228763

>>228555
it's literally impossible to pull off an operation like that without money

 No.228765

>>228763
Yeah, this. My biggest regret is not getting diagnosed as autistic or anything that would have qualified me for SSI. I let the internet pacify me too much so I stopped doing outbursts and tantrums when I became fully absorbed by it at ages 8-10. I should have kept acting out.

 No.228790

i wish i wasn’t retarded

 No.228794

>>228790
The Demiurge did it to torture you.

 No.228800

>>228794
but i want to be retarded checkmate monad

 No.228801

>>228800
It's doesn't work like that

 No.228878

>>228877
Yeah, I mean I can't hold down a job and don't get SSI so I'd rather be on SSI than not for the same reason. It's the worst thing to delude yourself for years with having intellectual interests but being too dysfunctional to do basic tasks the people who just spend their time on normalfag stuff like smartphones and tiktok can do easily.

 No.228881

>>228357
I can't even keep a shitty minimum wage job when I rarely am lucky enough to actually land one, I know how you feel. My brain shuts down and I get stuck in my own head under pressure and I can't keep afloat long enough to learn how to adjust before I get canned. Last job I was let go on the first week because they made me do something I was supposed to be trained for and I couldn't do it in time and broke down in a back room. It was a basic position at a store in a mall and all the co-workers were teenagers. Social services in my area barely exist unless you are basically a vegetable or have already worked for a period of time you don't get any assistance.

 No.228917

>>228881
Yeah, this is fucking brutal especially when you're around a bunch of younger people who are palling around. I was working at a store preparing the groceries for delivery and I stood out as a creepy older person who kept screwing up.

I have gotten like some very low temp assistance(200 dollars) and it's only available for nine months.

 No.229669

>>228357
just do surveys, where i do them i get 80 cents for every survey i fill out. I make an account like the ideal candidate, someone important. Thats the key to qualify. Each survey only takes maybe 6 minutes to do and it takes like 3 min to find a new one. (calculated the average of 50 surveys completed). So if you just focus and listen to some music or whatever you can get 5,3 dollars an hour. Absolutely shit pay but it helped pay the food when i were a neet. Used to do it 2 hours a day and have anough for food and whatnot but its not very fun most of the time. You'll be filling out what do you think about this new soda machine layout. It kills the soul

 No.229713

>>229669
could you post a link please? I desperately need money and i dont mind monotonous shit so this sounds perfect

 No.229715

> It just feels like everything is working against me so LDAR becomes the only option, but LDAR makes me too lethargic to kill myself. I guess I'll end up on the streets at some point and I can just die of heatstroke/starvation/etc.

The early 1960s counterculture types (before normies co-opted the lifestyle and turned it into degenerate faggotry) went out of their way to become homeless. Im not trying to make it sound romantic or anything, but why don't you get into the gig economy? Moving peoples furniture and shit on apps etc. Go to day labor companies if you need to. Travel around the country on grey hound buses and do day labor. See it as an adventure. If I was healthy, I would seriously be doing that right now. And I am not even joking.

 No.229734

>>229715
Gig economy stuff is the best thing that happened to me in years, it's the ultimate lumpenwiz school dropout trick. Of course it depends of the job though, most temp contracts for exemple are the same as regular wageslaving.

 No.229751

>>229669
If it's not a secret and you're okay with it, please send link or introduce us to survey filling more, please.

 No.229770

>>229713
>>229751
The site i use has a multiplier game, but NEVER touch it. Dont even try it, you will lose money over time, trust me and dont make my mistake, i sank 200 bucks into it before just saying fuck it and stopped trying to win back my losses.
Here are some reviews of different survey offers available, ranked in order of how much i like them
>Yoursurveys
Their pay is decent, sometimes the surveys are really short (less than 3 minutes, the max tends to be like 6). You get aproximatly 61 cents for each. They also have a sort of credit system where for each successful survey you complete your score goes up and youre way less likely to dissqualify and you get more surveys available (ill dig deeper into that later).
>Yunu surveys
There tends to be fewer of these available, in my experience maybe 4 of these are added every hour if you complete them so you can easily exhaust the ammount and have to wait for new ones. On the plus side they pay closer to 74 cents each and on average take me 5 minutes.
>Theorem reach
Usually their payouts are shit, varies from literally 20 cents for 5 minutes of work to absolutely great pay. On the plus side sometimes you get lucky and qualify for one which pays like 1.5 dollars. I no joke once filled out some bullshit about fancy wine for less than a minute and got 1.5 dollars, but that is truly the exeption not the rule. The only pro about this one over the others is that if you disqualify on for one you get a percentage of the payout based on the time spent which is good if you need just a small ammount to get over the minimum withdrawal threshhold of 5 dollars.
>other offers
Dont do anything else on the site, those payouts to play a game and reach a certain level might be tempting with their 7 or 8 dollar payouts but youd need to play those games for DAYS non stop to reach the required level.
>going back on track about the previously mentioned survey refilling.
If you do the surveys non stop, after you've done maybe 5 or 6 of each offer (yoursurveys and yunosurveys are the only ones worth it if you ask me) they will temporarily run out and you need to wait for new ones to be added. This, in my experience, takes usually about an hour. This is why you keep 2 accounts. That way you will never run out of surveys. When you've exhausted the ammount on the first account and youre done with the second by the time you get back to the first one you will have enough ones to be able to use that one long enough for the other to refill. That way you wont ever have to wait for new ones.
The payouts are in bitcoin and luckily a local food delivery company accepted that as a payment so i could use the money directly to buy food instead of having to convert it into fiat. I hope my midnight ranting at least made some sense and i might be able to answer some questions better when im sobered up but ill do my best.
Heres a link btw, it's linked to my account so i get money if you do shit but if you dont want me earning a bonus you wont lose anything by just removing the last part of the link.
http://cointiply.com/r/0OpgE

 No.229793

>>229770
Thank you. Im going to look into everything and hopefully be able to make something. I appreciate it wiz

 No.229855

>>229793
>>229770
Also forgot to mention the fact that there is sort of a loyalty bonus based on how many days you've earned (doesnt have to be in a row). If you've been on the site 50 days and earned some coins each day you'll earn 50% more. I only lived off this for 3 months and i werent on every day but when i quit i had like a 75% bonus meaning i were actually earning closer to 7 bucks an hour which is why i werent doing it every day.

 No.229887

>>229855
Much appreciated for the heads up, but I got one more question. Does it matter that you need to put postcode where you live or you can just post postcode that is in other country. I'm living somewhere where I don't know native language very well and they give surveys that is on the language, which is being spoken on the local area of the postcode.
Either way, thank you very much for telling us that, it is very kind of you, wiz.

 No.229889

>>229887
Also, can I somehow change my position? I've already made myself look bad in yoursurveys in terms of not making myself look important and They now auto sending me surveys that is on local native language.

 No.229906

>>229887
>Does it matter that you need to put postcode where you live
Try to have one in the capital of the country you claim youre from. If you say you're from germany and put a german postcode you might get surveys in german. So try to find one you always use.
>>229889
Yes, you can change your position. Just dont do it mid-survey or they might disqualify you. The only way your score can decrease is if you answer wrong to a security question like;
>There are 2 red houses and 9 dogs.To verify youre paying attention what is 5+7?

 No.229952

>>229906
Try to have one in the capital of the country you claim youre from. If you say you're from germany and put a german postcode you might get surveys in german. So try to find one you always use.
After you've claimed postcode on one of your account on your PC, they'll IPdata save it, so I can't really change now position unless.

 No.230134

>>229952
>>229906
>>229887
>>229855
>>229793
>>229770
>>229669
bumping for interesting topic
I also lived on surveys for a short while but i made slightly less cause im a retard who would constantly fail the security questions and get disqualified. It's a sad existance but at least you can make enough to eat and pay the 60% of the rent by working like 3 hours a day while just listing to music or watching anime you need to pay here if you're on assistance.

 No.230228

That's why you gotta buy shit with cash and keep your balance low to qualify for government gibs

 No.230239

>>230228
It's not really enough. The aid is only for 9 months even in that case and only 200. There's no real aid for people who don't have kids and aren't determined to be disabled(this is different from actually being employable) besides food stamps.

 No.230395

>>229770
>>229669
Thanks anon. Is there any way I can send you some of my points? Im currently not a neet and I just did a few for fun and testing it out and I wanted to thank you

 No.230403

>>228380
Do homeless people with serious mental conditions or drug abuse actually die?

 No.230404

>>230403
Without***

 No.230548

>>230403
>Do homeless people without serious mental conditions or drug abuse actually die?
depends where you live

 No.230828

>>230403
If you're homeless for an extended amount of time you will eventually get a serious mental condition anyway but yeah. Homeless people are predatory towards each other and normal people often take out aggression on homeless people as well.

 No.230836

>>230403
No. I live in Iraq and nobody dies off hunger.

 No.230840

>>229770
Is this legitimate? To me, surveys sound like a low effort traps that even the owners don't make enough money out of the sheep that participate.
Where I live, the average income is $200 a month. And that's working 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, with a college degree. Otherwise, you'd be lucky if you find a job like carrying cement bags on your back for 10 hours to make $7 a day.
If these surveys are true and that you can fake your location, Indians who'd have taken over this business, leaving nothing for Westerners who are already living in heaven-like conditions.

 No.230860

Seems like you are at the border of a depression. Try to get out of it, it is never to late. Seek a therapist or friend. ofc you can always vent here.
sleep early and give yourself one 12hr sleep. then eat fruit and go outside.
I wish it was that simple but its a start.
I have the same problem cause Autism. look for potential support systems in your country

 No.230865

>>230840
Most surveys are scams

 No.230872

>>230840
I live in sweden and a thusly speak a language that not a lot of third worlders speak. When i fill out surveys I answer about things here in sweden which is what theyre looking for. No swedish person would ever slave away for the same ammount of money an indian would do the same thing for so theyre forced to pay enough to get some actual responses. I filled out a survey yesterday about condoms and their use from a university which was depressing as fuck to fill out. Plenty of your previous partners questions, passivly asusming ive had any.
But yes, if youre in america you would probably earn less as you have more competition. I don't know how the situation is over there but I imagine the competition would drive the earnings WAAAY down which really sucks. If youre somehow fluent in another language I'd recommend using a paid VPN for that country that isnt blocked.
>>230865
Sadly yes, I were on a lot of other sites. (mainly ones located in my country like Mobrog) which worked BUT had a key flaw. They were not partnered directly with the survey provider so there were a lot of middlemen, meaning a lot of your money was chipped away at. Then there are some sites that dont even pay at all I guess but ive never had much of a problem with that as I just leave the site with 10 minutes of my time wasted.

 No.230932

>>230860
You just recommended a friend or therapist. Neither is wizardly.
Anyone who suggests they want to go to therapy should be banned because it's an admission of wanting to go to a VERY social situation.

 No.230937

>>230932
It's actually more like a doctor/dentist appointment.

 No.230938

>>230937
Wrong.

 No.230939

>>230938
Stop socializing with me, faggot.

 No.230940

>>230939
Going face to face with a human and talking about your emotional issues over the course of 15-30 minutes in real-time is a lot different than anonymously messaging a rando.

 No.230944

>>228357
>too lethargic to kill myself
Bullshit, more like too anxious to kill yourself. If you do end up homeless you're going to be the most miserable you've ever been and you're not going to die of starvation, we're already tired of this meme on the suicide general, your body is going to put you in full anxiety mode and you're gonna do anything for some food and you will get it like the other hobos do. If you do get some disease, and there are plenty, you're not gonna die from it unless you get lucky, chances are it's just going to disable you somehow or make you live in constant pain on top of being a hobo. Absolute hell if you ask me.
>>230403
No they don't. I've seen the same hobos survive for decades living in complete misery.

 No.230945

>>230944
do you believe in determinism?

 No.230947

>>230940
A therapist isn't a friend and isn't going to take you to a bar for the therapy session. It's no different than a doctor, who sometimes asks very intimate questions for technical reasons. You pay for the person to give his expert opinion, you're not shooting the shit for an hour.

 No.230949

>>230947
In the case of therapy you're literally paying for someone to talk to. With a doctor, talking is only necessary to find out what medical operation/medication is needed. In many cases, you may only have to sign paperwork and the talking would be a formality.
It doesn't matter why, if you're paying someone to listen to you talk about your problems for 30 minutes you just want to socialize. There is no meaningful distinction between therapy and socializing besides the fact that you pay for it and the person is supposed to be nice.

 No.230950

>>230949
Socializing is not simply talking to people but requires the implicit goal of wanting to have a good time. If you use this definition, then even a 5 minute conversation with a store cashier can be socializing, if you approach the person with that intention, asking about their weekend, cracking jokes and so on. Similarly, if a plumber comes over to fix my toilet, I'm not going to put on the game and start drinking a beer with him.

Now consider a therapy session, which is about problem solving and intimate details are required for technical reasons. The relationship is clearly professional and one sided - the therapist can't just start talking about his own problems or to invite you to the bar after the session.

 No.230951

>>230950
With therapy you are saying that talking about emotional issues is not socialization because it's merely to complete a goal that is not in itself socialization. If we follow this logic, paying for a prostitute for some purpose(perhaps having children) should not be social or even sexual because the sex is just required for technical reasons. After all, you're not going to be putting on a game and having a beer with them. It's one sided, the prostitute isn't just going to have sex with you for their own enjoyment or invite you to a bar after the session.
It is not the goal of therapy but the action. You will still be socializing. Some socializing is unavoidable, but in the case of a plumber or store clerk talking is EXTREMELY minimal and certainly won't require 30 minutes of 1 on 1 chatter about personal issues. Furthermore, if paying for a therapist is okay, would it then be okay to go search for someone to chat with in person for "mental health reasons"? Would it be okay to go to the bar because you're having "mental health issues" from not socializing enough? Socializing isn't the goal, it's just for technical reasons…

 No.230952

>>230950
Do not argue with autists for they can't be swayed by reason. Perhaps he is the one who would seek therapy to socialize.

 No.230953

>>230951
We're discussing what types of conversations constitute socializing, not sure why you're bringing sex into this when it's entirely irrelevant to the subject matter. Nice try at a slippery slope argument I guess.

The action of talking is /necessary/ for socializing but not /sufficient/, there has to be an implicit or explicit intent to have fun. Consider the difference between banter and describing your depression to someone. The duration matters fuck all, as I've demonstrated with my previous example of the possibly MINIMAL 30s conversation with a cashier that can be considered socializing.

>Would it be okay to go to the bar because you're having "mental health issues" from not socializing enough? Socializing isn't the goal, it's just for technical reasons…


Clearly, the goal in that case is to have fun, a good time with other people. Have you ever heard of someone having a good time at the shrink's office or even going with that specific intent?

 No.230955

>>230952
This is the absolute state of wizchan in the year 2020 A.D.
>>230953
Sex is relevant as a means of describing how the goal does not necessarily justify the means, your reading comprehension is just too low to understand.
>there has to be an implicit or explicit intent to have fun
No there doesn't. Voluntarily talking to someone about emotional issues is socializing NO MATTER WHAT. If you talk to a friend about your depression it's still normgroidal socialization. If you talk to someone about suicidal ideation it's normgroidal socialization. If you talk to a therapist about these things it's normalgroidal socialization. If you think "having fun talking to people" is exclusively equal to "socializing" you're more than a normalpeasant, you're a normalninnyhammer.

 No.230956

>>230955
you're either an awful troll or an idiot.

 No.230957

>>230956
What in the world sounds like trolling to you? I'm telling you that anything other than superficial communication is socializing. You're saying it has to be for fun. I'm telling you no. If that makes me an idiot I probably am.
I don't know why these pointless arguments amuse me so much

 No.230961

>>230955
>"reading comprehension" and name-calling as an argument

Well, looks like we're done here ;)

 No.230963

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>>230961
>Says your reading comprehension is low
>demonstrates his low reading comprehension



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