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Ugly anons, tell me about the impossible beauty standards you wish you could fulfill, how you wish you could look like and why, what you would do with your life if you managed to look like your ideal selves.
My beauty standard for myself is something like an older Tadzio from the 1971 Death in Venice movie, a beautiful, androgynous young man, with a godly face and a slim and pale body.
Instead I was cursed with an average face, a big nose and acne as well as bacne, which is a death sentence for a vain, looks obsessed guy like myself. Despite knowing that beauty fades and means nothing in the end, I feel hatred and jealousy towards every handsome man I see, especially those who come close to my own ideals.
How is life for other average or below average looking wizards going, especially those who are vain and very appearance-oriented like myself? What impact does the feeling of never being good looking have on you? Does it bother you or have you made peace with it? How do you cope?


I'm not too ugly, but I always wished I could modify my features a bit to be beautiful. I always found it sort of funny though, I could change my entire look in a photo just by shifting the lighting a bit, taking a different angle, and maybe even changing the distance a little; it's like a completely different person. One of my biggest peeves is that I'll never really know what I look like because of that, all I have is that inaccurate camera or a mirror which I can never freeze frame and which could possibly be warped somehow, distorting my features. But it also makes me distrust photos of beautiful people, knowing that they very well might not look like their photo at all due to the nature of what I listed prior, with angles, and lighting, and such, makeup even.


I just wish I were taller


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I’m an aesthete. I adore beauty. Buildings, people, furniture, paintings, plants and flowers, I want to surround myself with only aesthetically pleasing things. It’s human to be attracted to beauty, but in some that desire is mich stronger than in others.
I live everyday detesting my appearance because I can never be part of the things I adore. I love beauty, yet I’m not at all handsome myself. I hate gorgeous people out of envy, yet I’m still drawn to them, despite being unable to be like them. I’m vain, but have nothing to be vain about myself. This is suffering, loving the beautiful, but being unable to become the thing you love. I’ve thought about killing myself and maybe get better looks in my next life, if such a thing exists, but I’m too much a pussy to do it.


Homosexual thread.


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Nothing homosexual about it. Loving and craving beauty is human nature. So is being upset by the lack of it.


I just want to be normal looking tbh.


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Tyler Durden from Fyte Clüb




beauty is unironically relative. It is easily provable empirically. As all other factors are like, things like beauty could also be triumphed by other things during different situations. You often feel as if a person with more social connection to you as more beautiful as an example.

Also why would anyone need to cope with it? Wouldn't a wise man be able to realize that you don't live off based on the validation of others?

I never understood why people liked ancient architecture to be honest. I can't describe why but I don't really like it.


No its not. Beauty is objective while containing some subjectivity.


how could beauty be an object thing apart from an individual's perspective? Isn't it meaningless when we all have different standards of beauty regardless there's few vague similarities such as symmetry?




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I just want to be a cute boi. I used to be a cute boi and pass for a succubus, and I felt pretty. Now I'm old, and I'm ugly, and I'm hairy, and I'm balding, and I will never pass, and I hate it and it makes me want to die.


you will always be a cute boy in heart.


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>Also why would anyone need to cope with it? Wouldn't a wise man be able to realize that you don't live off based on the validation of others?
It’s not even about validation of others, at least not for me. For me it’s about being happy with myself. I rarely interact with people and work from home so I have no reason to worry about what they think of me, but I am still very much aware of my shortcomings and displeased with them. I think deep down, everyone yearns to be at least somewhat handsome, even those who claim not to care about appearance. When it comes to others, it’s not even about validation itself but the way you are treated as a person. Better looking people often get better treatment simply because they’re easy on the eyes.

We do have different standards, or rather different preferences, ones that are influenced by things like media, culture etc. as well. But like >>206425 said, it’s mostly objective and only a tiny bit subjective, like whether you prefer blue or green eyes, or pale or more tanned skin. But put a well-built dude with a conventionally handsome face next to a fat dude with conventionally unattractive traits such as huge ears, buckteeth and a crooked nose and surely 95% if not more will find the first man more attractive.

Im sorry anon. I guess the only good thing about not being handsome is that you will never have to worry about losing your beauty as you age. How old are you? Have you tried Rogain or Finasteride for the balding? If you’re hairy you can just shave it.


Why, what’s wrong with this thread? A lot of people get depressed from being ugly, to the point of developing body dysmorphophobia, I figured it’s something the wizards on here might relate to.


You speak of the Halo Effect, yes?


your example only shows how beauty is more subjective. The fact that majority find something beautiful is irrelevant to whatever beauty is objective or not as social media and the global culture greatly influenced the lookism in society. It isn't enough to show how beauty is mostly objective. How do you also assume that the beauty could even be defined without the social context? For example, when people perceive beauty it's inside some sort of context with what the person is perceiving the object/person as like the social relationship between that person. Does this not prove that attraction and beauty is quite subjective and dependent on social contexts massively?

>Why, what’s wrong with this thread? A lot of people get depressed from being ugly, to the point of developing body dysmorphophobia, I figured it’s something the wizards on here might relate to.

Because why would a wizard desire sexual attraction?


It’s not even about validation of others, at least not for me. For me it’s about being happy with myself. I rarely interact with people and work from home so I have no reason to worry about what they think of me, but I am still very much aware of my shortcomings and displeased with them. I think deep down, everyone yearns to be at least somewhat handsome, even those who claim not to care about appearance. When it comes to others, it’s not even about validation itself but the way you are treated as a person. Better looking people often get better treatment simply because they’re easy on the eyes.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful but it seems you are assuming everybody else has the same or similar mindset on beauty as yourself.


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Yes. There’s been studies showing that attractive people do get preferential treatment, be it better grades in school, having an easier time finding a job, getting lighter sentences from judges, people in general being more forgiving towards them, and more. It’s not just “having a nice to look at face will get me laid”.
Just look up “attractive people are treated better” or something similar, there are many articles on this.
We like to tell ourselves that beauty doesn’t matter all that much, that people care more about personality in the long run and all that nice stuff, but it’s a lie, and we know it is, we just pretend we don’t. Beauty is the greatest gift you can receive, it’s the true “easy mode”, as long as you have at least some intellect/talent to go along with it, no matter how little, you will have it good. And even if you’re a dumb as bricks and talentless fuck, there is still a high chance you’ll make it, especially if you’re an attractive succubus, simply because people like looking at you.
Honestly being disabled or born disfigured is better than being unattractive because at least most of society will pity you and looking down on you for your shortcomings will be considered morally wrong. Like that one little succubus who has progeria and everyone keeps telling her she’s beautiful and gorgeous despite the fact she looks like a weird fucked up alien. Whereas if you’re just ugly, those around you will not hesitate to shit in you, whether consciously or subconsciously.


As the wizkids say, fuckin yikes


Wish I could look pretty. Mainly it's just my lack of motivating and my current financial position, but I hate how I look, despite others telling me I'm attractive.


I'm an ugly wizard. Once you get older and stop interacting with younger people it isn't too bad, maybe it's because you become older people don't assume much about you but I stopped getting negative social situations as much. I don't really think about how I look now and just act polite to people, they seem to respond more now I'm getting older. I guess it depends on your environment but it doesn't weigh on my life much. I never considered myself ugly and still don't when looking in a mirror but people have called me ugly to my face so I guess I am, I was never focused on myself though.


I have met plenty of ugly people who are more successful than good looking ones because they're sociable and competent. Having a pretty face to look at is actually not very benificial to people and people decide their relationship by how it benefits them. An ugly person who are easy to talk to and work with is miles better then some adonis greek statue who have autism. Even if you faggots are good looking, your life wouldn't get any better. Pragmatics over aesthetics.


I wish I didn't have a physical form. Really eats me up inside that I'm not an apparition with nothing to anchor me to this cunt world.


>Ugly anons, tell me about the impossible beauty standards you wish you could fulfill, how you wish you could look like and why, what you would do with your life if you managed to look like your ideal selves.
Only succubi care about their appearance to this degree.


Yeah me too. I hate having a physical form sometimes. The day I‘ll stop having to carry this fleshbag around is the day I’ll find peace.

Fags also do


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Honestly, I couldn't agree more.
Vanity itself is a female characteristic. I can't imagine a full-grown man caring so much about this with so many more important things to worry about.

Otto Weininger was right.

Many so-called “handsome men” are half succubi.


I’m pretty and androgynous but my health is awful. Also, this thread should be deleted. Go back to r9k.


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>Fags also do
They're fucked in the head and are worse than succubi honestly.
This. "beauty" or looking good is the last thing I think of when I look in the mirror in the morning. What matters to me is that I maintain decent hygiene, get a haircut and shave occasionally and wear clean clothes. Anything more than that is overkill. I'm no looker but I look average enough, except for having what normalfags used to call "serial killer eyes" a bit like pic related


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Do fag wizards call other men incubi?


me too. I often felt disassociated with my body and reality when I was a child but I had lost that feeling as time went on. I personally think many others had experienced this but I never got to discuss this feeling of detachment.

My desire to become something immaterial was old as when I was a kid in elementary. I used to be really into Ray Kurzweil's religious transhumanism because I had a fantasy of being some omnipotent machine creature that lives forever. But sadly I realized that will never happen and that I will perish eventually.


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Like I said, I already *did* lose my beauty. I was a very pretty boy, but as soon as I became a man I turned into a hairy mansquatch with back fur and a receding hairline. I hate it, and now I'll never pass. A friend keeps trying to convince me it's not too late to get on HRT, but I know I'm too far gone.


Jesus christ, is this what actually goes on in the mind of succubi and fags? Fucking gender dysmorphia bullshit, I can't never understand them. Don't you people have actual problem to worry about? Like bills or mental illness not related to your appearance? Being ugly only change other people perception of you and not necessarily in an extremely bad way. Your appearance literally make no other differences in your day to day life. I can understand being sad because you're becoming ugly but to be self hating to the point of considering pumping yourself full of chemicals? Are you an aging actress or something? lmao. Reminds me of a trope in culture and art, like Elizabeth Bathory or Picture of Dorian Gray or that extremely obscure manga with crappy art that I somehow still remember, Helter Skelter. Maybe you are the protagonist of a tragic drama anon. Now you just need to do some outrageous thing to regain your beauty, have a moment of success and finally fall from grace.


ability to rationally think is actually not that widespread


>Being ugly only change other people perception of you and not necessarily in an extremely bad way. Your appearance literally make no other differences in your day to day life.

Except when it does


>In mock interviews, attractive people are more likely to be hired than less attractive individuals

>attractiveness can also influence judgements about the seriousness of committed crimes

>attractive people also appear to lead favourable lives; attractive individuals pay lower bail

>and are more likely to be hired for jobs


>Attractive people are more likely to get jobs. They make more money than their less attractive coworkers. We even tend to think attractive people are smarter and friendlier than less attractive people.

>Both men and succubi ranked people with unattractive faces as less intelligent, less sociable and less likely to help others.

It’s not just people thinking you’re shit looking. It’s people thinking you’re shit looking and actively treating you worse than those who aren’t shit looking. Your looks absolutely matter and unless you have some extraordinary abilities, being an ugly fuck will place you into hard mode immediately. Denying it is lying to yourself and others.


did you even read his post? Also noone is totally denying that social standards of beauty is completely irrelevant to our lives. It is more about how it isn't that big of a factor compared to other things.

For example, you could probably do that exact research with races and then get a result saying that if you aren't a certain race you must desire to become one or you are merely coping.


Is this some kind of raid?



>Don't you people have actual problem to worry about?
Oh sweetie, I have plenty of "real" problems; this is just the flavor of the week. I live in a dilapidated trailer from the 1970s, the ceiling has literally collapsed in several places. I've also very likely been exposed to asbestos and can expect an early, ugly death. I've got more mental illness than you can shake a stick at, the dysmorphia is just taking center stage due to certain circumstances outside my control. My mom's health is going down the drain, fast, and she's the only family I've got. If I don't somehow escape NEETdom I'm very likely to be homeless when she passes; not to mention utterly and entirely alone. So yes, I do have "actual problems". Do you?


I haven't cringe this hard in a while. You can fetishize your suffering all you want and turns every non-issue into a melodramatic monologue but please don't talk like a posh homosexual prostitute. I am not trying to start a pissing contest. I don't really care how much you suffer and in fact I think you deserve it. Just get that feminine normalfaggot mindset of wanting to be beautiful out of my chan.


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>you deserve it
Now say: "kys faget"
Then go back to 8ch
Oh wait


I am not the "wizard" crying about how he's some washed up pretty boy. Are you the guy who keep spamming shota pictures in /b/? Either way, kill yourself faggot.


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We're on a depression board, in a thread about Beauty and vanity. One of us in the wrong place, you may or may not be depressed; but you obviously don't care about how ugly you are.

I wont tell you to kys, but I will suggest getting an original thought and not just regurgitating memes. Now kindly piss off and let us mope in peace.


lol fuck off to lookism.net to talk about succubus and how you are sad for being unable to attravt them with your crab friends :)


yes and mods are allowing it to happen


I understand his motivation for chewing you out. Its an inherent issue when you aren't sexually active that you're forced to prove your manliness in other ways. While I respect his steadfast determination to uphold the volcel nature of this site I don't agree or approve of his methods used to voice his opinions.

Wizards come in a wide variety of different types so you can't expect every wiz to be Mr.Macho. We should try to respect the sensitive boys especially on freakin /dep/.

what rules are being broken?


Users are encouraged to post threads and images which are relevant to wizards, wizardry or the celibate, NEET, or reclusive lifestyles. Posts that are deemed to be low quality, antithetical to the spirit of the site or posted by someone deemed not to be a native of Wizardchan may be removed.


>Its an inherent issue when you aren't sexually active that you're forced to prove your manliness in other ways
Fuck off


lol nice attempt on trying to psychoanalyzing me


I love how in this thread every type of poster is present: a crab, an r9k invader, an 8chan invader, a normgroid, a succubus, some wizkids, some /meta/burgers, gender dysphoria gayposter and a truwiz(me). We just need a mod moving this thread to /b/ for the finishing touch.


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HHere's my attempt!

You're one of those insecure, insufferable cunts that nobody likes- so you lash out anonymously at individuals you perceive as vulnerable, anonymously over the internet, to make yourself feel like a badass.


no, not really


> forced to prove your manliness in other ways
Oh fuck off with your psychoanalyst bullshit. People are conditioned to find certain things disgusting whether culturally or biologically. The idea of gender dysphoria or body dysmorphism or whatever the fuck you call this thing is pretty disgusting to most people. A lot of people in this site have their own mental illnesses that are disgusting to normal people but these illnesses are not a problem within the community because enough users are similar enough to for what was previously a deviation to turn into a community norm. The fact that you faggots receive such backlash in this matter means that your deviation is different from the kind of deviation accepted here. We are not a site that provides a sanctuary to outcasts of all kinds. We are like minded people who happened to be outcasts in a certain way and your kind is not part of this brand of outcasts.

Wizards and faggots are disgusting to most people. Wizards are not disgusted with each other. Faggots are not disgusted with each others. That doesn't mean that wizards cannot be disgusted with faggots. Maybe you can be both a wizard and a faggot but don't expect all wizards to welcome you like we're some progressive everyone's a winner loonbin. Fuck the mods goddamn. If you aren't going to protect the original demographics then you'll end up with a dumpster consisting of every human garbage on the planet that happens to be virgin. Even in 4chan there threads that doesn't mention sex. The reason this site is supposed to be special is more than banning people who say they want have sex. It's supposed to be a community of people who sort of fit together.



none of those are correct. next!


All the world's a stage, And all the men and succubi merely players.


lol kinda naive that you think that this site is some sacred sanctuary when this site is ran by furries


and the audience too


Sadboi from before. I'm not even gay; I'm exclusively attracted to bitches (although I've given up on them). I just miss liking the way I looked because I find masculine aesthetics unsightly. Except for my wizardly beard, which is the one boon to being all mannish. I also never said anything about wanting sex; wanting to pass has NOTHING to do with that.


>exclusively attracted to bitches



That sounds rough, friend. Good luck. Will you inherit anything useful from your mom that could help you out?

Yeah everyone should just make yet another “I’m suicidal and gonna kms what’s the best method” thread those are the pinnacle of quality.

Dysphoria and dysmorphophobia are not the same thing. Dysphoria is the fag/tranny thing, dysmorphobobia is feeling like you or some of your physical traits are extremely ugly, which can actually lead to depression and affect anyone regardless whether they’re a fag or not. So I don’t see why it doesn’t belong on the /dep/ board. You just want to shit on people who don’t comply with your muh board culture rules.


>Yeah everyone should just make yet another “I’m suicidal and gonna kms what’s the best method” thread those are the pinnacle of quality.

Why do you think we have to choose between eating 2 shits when you can choose to refuse to eat either of them?


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Has anyone ever used this skin peeler, glycolic acid? I'm getting some in the mail soon, it's supposed to get rid of scars and stuff and shrink pores too.


No. My mom is super witchy; she's been NEET since I was born and volcel since I was like 10. She's dirt poor and lives in the same rotten trailer I do, which belonged to my grandfather. I will inherit her mountains of hoarded clothes, sheets, fabric and such like; as well as a beat up 1992 Dodge Ram 50 which I don't know how to drive. I plan to put her ashes along side my grandfather's and grandmother's on an altar with family portraits, if I can find them in all the mess.


Might be useful for my self-harm scars… but I'm reticent to apply fucking acid to myself.


I'll be putting it on my face so I'll let you know how it goes, I've tried salicylic acid before but it wasn't strong enough, this stuff should get rid of some acne scares if what I read was accurate


Just be super careful, anon. I don't know the first thing about it but that sounds really scary. Good luck, I hope it helps!


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Being ugly is the most effective way to experience first-hand the true, unfiltered wrath of normies.

Appearances are everything to them; to be attractive is to be human - to be ugly, is to be less than.


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This is largely true, but there is a degree of variance. A person can be attractive to some, not to others. Someone can be ugly, but grotesque. There are people who undeniably beautiful, and those who incontestably hideous; most of us are probably somewhere in the middle. Just something to think about.

The internet has certainly exacerbated this issue, with the grotesque hook up culture, online dating, apps like tindr and other such poison. These make everyone who isn't Chad-pitt look and feel like shit.


*Not grotesque, second line.


my face skin is currently peeling off, I have high hopes for this stuff, should take a few days to see the results

also I was trying to use it on some scars I have on my legs but no peeling so far, just irritated the hair follicles, so yeah don’t apply the stuff to areas you shave regularly


I really hope it helps, wiz. Just be super careful, patient, and deliberate.


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I don’t understand why are they like this. What makes them hate ugly people so much, it’s not like we chose to look this way


Why do you care what other people think about you? You're not a teenager anymore. Or if you are then stop posting here.
People have cancer and other terrible illnesses. Nobody will shame a person for having cancer. And looking ugly and deformed is similar to cancer. It's not in the hands of a person how he looks. Well of course I mean real natural deformations here and not that whiny bitch syndrome shit when people complain that they are pretty but not THAT pretty. People who shame other persons because of their looks are infantile and stupid while stuck in high school 2.0 as an adult. I have nothing but contempt for such people. Whatever they say or think isn't worth a damn. In their mind they are still children.
It's nothing personal as I never had any problems because of my appereance. It's simple logic. Basing your value on your natural appereance means that it would be okay insulting a person for having cancer because somehow it is the individuals fault. It's not. Well smoking can cause lung cancer etc. but that's besides the point.
All this talk about gender and trans people who want to decide how they look on their own - how the fuck can people be so shallow? Is their life really this empty that they have nothing else to care about? Well I wouldn't even care at all if they weren't so loud and obnoxious about it and if they weren't trying to convince everyone of their boring views.

All this ranting isn't good for my heart…


>It's nothing personal as I never had any problems because of my appereance.
Then why are you in this thread? Just to spout normalfag tier platitudes, "people have cancer", well boohoo, that doesn't mean I can't have my own problems, fuck you.


>Why do you care what other people think about you?
Anon earlier in this thread provided a link on how the way you look influences your chance of getting a job, how much money you get, how people perceive your intelligence, personality and more. What others think of you matters because the way you’re perceived is going to influence the way you are treated. You don’t exist in a vacuum.


It's the same for tall people, if you're male. I didn't use to worrry about my height, I figured 5'10 was roughly average. Then I went on /fit/ while I was trying to lose weight, years ago. They didn't help for shit in that regard, but they did give me a complex about my height. Same thing with looks, of which height is just another qualifier. The world is unfair, ruled by demons, and pretty much fucked.


I don't even care about this stuff, I want to look pretty for myself, yes it's vain, I don't care


> I figured 5'10 was roughly average.

It is. Stop going on 4chan that place is a burning dumpster fire. My impression is that people there create a virtual world to rile each other up. They will cherrypick screenshots of some nobody on twitter insulting everyone shorter than 6'4" and act like that's normal. And if someone tries to give crabs a reality check they will just be called names.


dont care lol


>boo hoo I want norps to like me


Not him and I think that the height discussions on imageboards are tedious and exaggerated but they make up 99.9999% of the population. If they like you it makes your life a lot easier. Unless you are self-employed or a NEET you do need to worry about appearances.


I am black and wished I was white when I was younger.
What changed? Nothing, I just realized that wishing for it isn't going to make it happen so I stopped caring as much.
But given the choice, I would still choose to be a white man over anything else.


Not every wizard wants to be an eternal neet and some of us actually want to get a job. I know it may surprise you but the majority of employers are norps and if you want a job that is more than just sorting groceries or cleaning crappers it is important that they like or at least have a good impression of you, which isn’t easy to achieve if your mug is ugly as shit
>inb4 muh confidence and muh personality


Not an argument.


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Probably. I stopped watching his videos when I decided to purge all /pol/itical shit from my life. One of the better decisions I ever made.


The amount of gas-lighting that goes on on image boards is really scary. Some of it I think is just trolls creating feed back loops, some if I think is probably actual psyops.


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I am no psychologist but I think that people on 4chan get some bizarre pleasure from creating a narrative that everything is horrible and that they are doomed so there is no point in trying to improve themselves. They spend an amazing amount of time and energy on proving why they are doomed instead of improving themselves in any way. Like they will make detailed "info"graphics trying to prove how if you are not 6'4" tall and look like a model that you will never find any happiness in life. And then whenever anyone actually posts his face they are at worst just average looking while they describe themselves as "ugly as fuck". In general it seems like on the internet people are turning the contrast up to 110%. Even successful movie stars and models are being called "ugly" just because they look a bit unusual. And trying to talk to these people is just frustrating. If you do not share their unrealistic grim world view you are told that you "cope" or that you are a cuck or succubus or whatever. In some twisted irony the people unable to have a reasonable argument without name calling, memes and buzzwords call others NPCs.


the actual uglies wouldn't post their faces. Although I doubt it's only looks that holds those people down


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Extraordinary well said, bravo.


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I think people think that if they don't get hit on all the time they are ugly. I've never had succubi hit on me, I never received any compliments on my appearance, I have low self-confidence, I have high standards and yet I don't think I'm ugly. Just average, maybe just slightly below.

Like I don't understand what world these people in. You just have to look around and you see plenty people who look average and yet are socially successful.


Literally, the cave, the matrix, Maya, the illusion of reality; call it what you will… it's all the same thing.


They should probably just be themselves.


Looks are soft gate keepers in the social world ruled by success and connections. You don't need to be attractive and a pleasure to look at but you should have a face and body which at least is not disturbing to look at. The uglier you look by normie standards the more compensation you need via character and charisma. It's part of the hierarchical structures and to play on that field means that you have to deal with your appereance on some level. Even shitty jobs often require decent looks or while uglier people get these jobs it's harder for them due to extra stress with coworkers and clients. The hierarchical structures of society are futile but there is almost no way to avoid them in order to survive, pay rent and food, electricity etc. - living in da woods and going full hikikomori is restricted to a few individuals.

The common way to compensate bad looks seems to be showing a certain attitude towards other people - basically be relaxed, show no anxiety, don't show any sign that you care what other people think of you, do your stuff as if looks didn't matter to you at all like it should be. When people realize that your appearance doesn't matter to you they have no space for aggression and most times just leave you alone as they worry about their own stuff. Or maybe they even appreciate your attitude of not giving a fuck.
This still is not perfect by any means and kind of a negative solution but it does its job of compensating looks. And let's be real there is no doubt that attractive people with a bad attitude and arrogant behaviour don't have it any better. People also realize unappealing characters that they don't want to associate with regardless of looks. This actaully matters in job interviews as much as appearence since you have to be somewhat likeable to receive employment. Being likeable is even much more important than your looks from my experience.


You sound like a total normalfaggot. If you really want to devote yourself to the neet path, nothing will stop you. You may have to accept living on the streets and begging for money but no matter what it can be done.


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I got picked on my entire childhood and teenage years for being ugly. Sometimes I would just walk to the store or from school minding my own business and get called ugly by strangers. Picked up my younger brother from school once and there was some succubus with her younger sibling who looked at me in disgust and said I looked so bad I should be ashamed. My face got better proportions as I entered adulthood, but I’m still quite unattractive. Being ugly, not just average or slightly below average, but truly undeniably bad looking is an experience i wouldn’t wish on anyone. Humans are incredibly fucking vain.


>Sometimes I would just walk to the store or from school minding my own business and get called ugly by strangers.

I keep reading stuff like this and it makes me wonder where do you live? Here in the city all kinds of freaks walk around and nobody cares.


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Same boat of wanting to pretty.
I feel I am close-ish to my ideal aesthetics but my nose and chin I would want changed.
I think this reply will probably get a lot of hate,let me emphasize yes I am a celibate neet with no friends and want to be pretty.


I dont mind looking like a real Chad and live for free. No one would hassle you except jealous chads and crabs and psycho succubi but you can easily ignore them.


anyone here got nice hair? I spend a real long time every morning doing my hair right, random normies always complement and tell me that my hair is pretty, it feels good, I'm still working on the rest of my face though, recently I've started shaping my eye brows and trying to smooth out my skin with products


Irony is I would probably be decent looking if I didn't have a cleft lip. Hard to gauge to what extent it's fucked up my life. I probably have inherent social deficiencies unrelated to it.


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I had nice hair, long, straight, and blonde. Like Legoalas :) Unfortunately, my sperm donor was a bald mansquatch- so that is my fate as well. :( Hirsute, squat, and balding. I hate my body.


Social anxiety has to do with other people's perception of the self, too. If we tolerate that, why don't we tolerate feeling depressed for looking like shit?
It's a weak and irrational emotional process, but we are on dep, so I thought we were allowed to be flawed…


small town probably. I've had similar shit happen to me. One time in middle school, 2 succubi called me ugly and laughed at me about 5-10 minutes, without interruption, in front of everyone, while we were waiting for the teacher.

Even as an adult, when I went to the grocery store in the morning there was often a group of young middle schoolers who were always laughing and making pictures of me on their way to school.


Honestly, if I won the lottery, I’m gonna get liposuction and plastic surgery. Get heart shaped nipples, why not.


I remember in Middle school there was this cute succubus in my science class, I had a crush on her. She bullied me incessantly, spread rumors that I was gay, and humiliated me in front of others on several occasions.


So my skin finished peeling and everything, it worked fantastically, tons of little wrinkles and acne scars are completely gone now and my skin is smoother than ever


Good for you, Wiz!! I might have to try some for my arms and legs where my self-harm scars are really bad. I didn't use to mind them but the older I get the more they bother me.


i just tell myself im cool 😎


boymod thread


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Best thread on /dep/ - possibly on wizchan entire imo.


all my life i've desired to look like a barbie tbh


Is this bait or is this an actual nigger on this site?


ah fuck i'm retarded, your making a example, sorry anon i really need to kill ymself


>we don't like this thread
>oh yea, let's shit up all over the place so the mod will take it down hopefully


Why do these autists to that? Just ignore the thread if you don’t like it.

Best of luck getting rid of them. Be careful not to hurt yourself with that shit though.


I doubt I'll ever do it. I have no money for anything, and if I did have money I would probably just want to buy a gun so I could blow my brains out of my ugly caveman skull.


Average face means you are better looking than half the people out there, and no matter what someone is always going to be better looking than you.

Regardless of your appearance based on your genes, you can be attractive.

The most attractive quality is someone who is confident and secure in themselves. What kind of clothes do you wear? What kind of grooming do you do? Are you athletic?

If you are not happy with your appearance, do something about it. For starters you can go see a dr to get some acne medication. Can’t afford it? Bullshit make it a priority.


>The most attractive quality is someone who is confident and secure in themselves
maybe if you are trying to attract other people, I just want to be pretty, none of that “confident” crap

The bottle of skin peeling stuff was only like $18, I don’t usually have money either but my mom won some raffle at work and got $20 so she just gave it to me. I contemplated buying other things for a few weeks before setting on the beauty care product, it was totally worth it imo my skin looks really nice


If you are not worried about what other people think why are you so distressed? Pretty, attractive, beautiful, sexy, hot, whatever you want to call it, other people won’t find you are any of those until you are ok with yourself.

Why don’t you want to be confident? That is like saying I don’t want to be happy, I don’t want to have security, etc.


I'm not confident due to mental illness, so I don't really try. I spend 95% of my time alone in my house so it's not really worrying about other people, rather looking in the mirror and being able to look pretty increases my mood.


Ok well get that acne medication then bud. It sounds like you do worry about other people, cause you hate us good looking dudes.


I don't have acne at all and haven't for the past 4 years, I take lots of care fore my skin and hair, I probably spend a couple hours in the bathroom grooming ever day. I don't hate good looking people, I don't know where you read that, I simply want to be pretty.


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I don't think you can call yourself "good looking" unless you are actually beautiful, otherwise the word just loses all meaning


I love Aqua… good AMV but the original version of Barbie succubus is still the best.

I'm not good looking, but I'm not hideous either. I'm just below average, I guess.


most people are ugly anyway, you probably look better than you think, I think it’s fun to pursue beauty though, you can never be perfect


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When I'm in a good mood, I feel like I'm fairly handsome. Not beautiful or pretty like I would like, but decent looking.
When I'm in a bad mood, depressed, I sometimes can't even stand to look at myself in the mirror. I feel hideous.


I feel the same. Sometimes I look into the mirror and think I’m alright looking, other days I want to off myself as to not having to look at my visage any longer.


me too, sometimes I feel like a super model and sometimes I look in the mirror and I feel like a disgusting creep, on the worst days I'll often punch myself in the face because I think I look so ugly, then I have to use cover-up on the bruise later because it looks ugly


Are you ugly on the inside too? Does it match your looks?


I suffer from various psychological issues, I don't know if I would call myself ugly on the inside, I'm just a pathetic broken pussy.


To make the question more precise, are you scum on the inside?


idk, what do you consider scum? I'm a mentally ill NEET currently, maybe some time in the future I'll go to school or get a job or something


A bad person?


I don't do bad things, I'm very shy and polite in real life


Are you sure?



I'm just asking. Most ugly people I've seen have their personalities on their faces.


I don’t think I’m ugly, I just have body dysmorphia


It honestly doesn't matter what your face looks like that much as long as you exercise and look healthy. Do you ever work out?


no, I don't want to 'work out' I want to be lithe and beautiful


I have a good body and figure, shave regularly, take care of my hair and skin, learned to cook so I can eat healthy and work out. But my face is still bad. I look like someone photoshopped a stereotypical “crab loser freak” face on a great body. It’s quite bizarre looking. I’d look great if someone were to chop my head off and replace it with something passable.


I'm willing to bet if you stopped spending so much energy on tearing yourself down and used that energy on making yourself and people around you happy, neither you or anyone else that matters would give a shit if your face isn't perfectly proportioned. You only get one life, stop wasting it on telling yourself bad things. It's a waste of your time.


>people around you
Do you know where you are?


Tadzio a cute


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When you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. I guess this also applies to ourselves. It's difficult when all you want is to be able to love what you see in the mirror. I have scars. I'm hairy. I'm losing my hair. I'm losing weight (40lbs so far…) but it doesn't matter. No matter how fit I get I will never be pretty again. Time and genetics made sure of that.


OP should realize that beauty is fleeting. Sickness, old age and death await all.


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It doesn't mean we don't want to feel good about ourselves, even knowing this truth.


Yes, and then you'll feel bad about yourself when your beauty is taken away by old age.


You can be beautiful for a long time, it's just that most normalfags don't take care of themselves, so when you see a 30 year old normalfag on the street he looks like an obese dirty slob. It's entirely possible to still be beautiful and elegant at 30, maybe even older, and that's plenty of time, all you have to do is care about your skin mostly, and if you need a quick fix there's always makeup.


Yep the official strategy to staying aesthetic in old age:
>don't drink or smoke regularly
>cleanse face morning and night
>wear sunscreen everyday
>moisturize at night
>clean up your eyebrows to frame your face
>take propecia to prevent baldness(its really cheap online)
>exercise and take care of yourself
Describing how much effort I put into looking nice I feel like I could fit in the "beautiful ones" category of calhouns experiments. I'm not sure if thats a good thing or not.


I do pretty much all of that stuff too, it's a lot of effort but it makes me feel good, still not as beautiful as I would like to be though, but I am still working on things, like the other day I cauterized a broken vein on my nose with a hot needle, and I still need to dig some ingrown hairs out of my legs(anyone have any idea how to do this?) so I can shave properly.

>Describing how much effort I put into looking nice I feel like I could fit in the "beautiful ones" category of calhouns experiments



I don't get how you can wear sunscreen every day. That sounds so tedious having to reapply it all the time and I hate how sticky it makes you.


A lot of users report that finasteride causes permanent erectile dysfunction.


Do it like me and don't leave the home. You'll be fine.

That's the only thing in that list I consider outright terrible advice. I wasn't going to bother bringing it up but since you mentioned. That garbage is poison and no hair on earth is worth taking pills for. If it's thinning, it's thinning. Have your bald head and own it.


not him but I use a light spf 15 sunscreen/lotion that also contains some AHAs for skin exfoliation, it's not greasy at all

who cares? no one here is having sex (I hope)


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I am actually pretty bad about sunscreen, I just wear pic related in the morning. Unless im swimming or something then I wear something more hard core. I barely go outside or by windows so I don't think im too much at risk to turn into a wrinkly baked potato.
I'm not going to say those people are lying but it actually increases your testosterone levels, idk how it would break your dick and even so i'm celibate.
> That garbage is poison and no hair on earth is worth taking pills for. If it's thinning, it's thinning. Have your bald head and own it.
I didn't develop any ED but I would prefer that over being bald or a receded hairline.


Look that drug up, it goes way beyond erectile dysfunction. That is poison and you have to be quite the vain, dumb fellow to put your hair over overall health, but that's just how I see it. I hope you don't get fucked in the long haul from it and my honest advice to all wizards reading is to avoid pharmaceutical poison as much as possible, specially if it's something shallow such as the case here.


>Despite knowing that beauty fades and means nothing in the end
Yep, entropy's a bitch.


ED prevents you from masturbating too.


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He's a bad ass wizard now


Thats a guy?! Well you can be sure those latin degenerates fucked him after every take.

Confirms it.


He has a wife and two children, he’s no wizard.

He was taken to gay bars by the makers of the film

You could say that about every other thing too though. Why care about anything at all when it’s going to fade and die eventually?


he looks like one


People treat you differently. End of story. You can't get with an attractive succubus if you're not up to par yourself. Same with becoming a high-ranking person in society. The majority are at least above average. Get over the fact that it matters.


I wonder if God cares about this situation. Being a minority is kinda sad tbh.


lol this thread is still alive


It’s not even about getting a succubus, or getting a high position in society, I gave up on that long ago so it doesn’t matter to me. Ugly people are treated like less in general for something they can’t control. Ugliness lowers yours chances at living an even simple decent life. Anything below average instantly catapults you into hardmode.

“Why people talk about problems I can’t relate to? :(“


I sort of get upset sometimes when I’m watching tv with my mom, the succubi on the tv commercials always have flawless smooth skin, I know it is all makeup and editing tricks but it doesn’t make me any less jealous, I wish I had perfect smooth skin, instead my skin is just ‘normal’ I guess, at least I don’t have acne


I've started going to the gym three times a week, but I'm not sure losing fat or building muscle is going to help me much.


I am now imagining a skincare commercial model who post on wizchan lmao. Best thread on wizchan rn.


A while ago a mosquito bit my cheek, there is now an indented scar where the bite was, I am so upset about it, every time I see it I just can’t believe I was so damn unlucky, I hate bugs so much


I get dry skin, especially on my hands. It can be a literal pain. Itchy, uncomfortable, and can bleed.

I should buy cream or something.

Some people find enjoyment out of exercise. I enjoy going for long walks, for example. It's not for everyone, thojugh. At least give it a chance.


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I think I'll kill myself soon. Hanging. Already have the noose made.


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Good luck wiz, if you choose that path, I hope your pain will end and you can finally be at peace


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Yes. Meant for


Oh you're so handsome lad


Thanks to based moderation for deleting obvious troll and bully.



Start a mucusless diet. Stop eating cereals, practice some colon irrigation.

>so ugly

But the real trouble is how much afflicted you are about it. Accept it, embrace it, even if you were to combat it. The thing about acne lies in what you eat, in your blood substances. That's why you have PUS even in your back.

Alcaline diet, man. For long term, also. No bread, no doritos, no roasted chicken, no breaded meat, no chocolates, no dairies…


Also backne sufferer here, I don´t eat half of the things listed there, so that´s a good start. Diets tend to be difficult to maintain because I´m autistically picky with food and a lot of diet food seems to be hippie-vegan tier shit that is expensive and also difficult to incorporate into cooking. Any good recipes wizfriend?


The purpose of Beauty is to take the eyes away from the Abyss. Beauty is sublimated Suffering. For example, seeing two birds seememly playing with each other in a beautiful manner is only a parallax view of animal rape that goes on daily to satisfy an insatiable Will. All beautiful things are the same.
Furthermore, do you not understand that Death ends sickeness and old age? Eternal Life, without sickness and suffering, is merely an euphemism for Death. All religions are like this and since you're here you're smart enough to realize that God is just another name for Death - it is everywhere, nowhere, and all things came and go back to it.

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