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 No.209083

Who else here would describe their situation as an incurable learned helplessness?

 No.209112

Most of my current problems are gifts from my shitty childhood. Emotions and thoughts deep-rooted in my subconscious. It makes me so fucking angry but I know there's no shit I can do beyond enduring myself until death comes.

 No.209146

I would.
I have noticed that a lot of internet posters consider learned helplessness to be an independent mental state that is the source of other problems, pretty much just a bad attitude that you can magically fix with positive thoughts and Just Doing Things. The problem with that is that you don't learn it from nowhere. The dogs that could stop the electric shocks didn't learn to just lie down and wait for the shocks to stop. People who go through life finding that they have the power to control their circumstances don't learn that their problems can't be fixed.
How would I unlearn it? I would need to have some ability to control an outcome, but I don't.

 No.209147

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I wouldn't call it incurable, since I try to avoid absolutes whenever possible. Learned hopelessness, and when I'm in a really bad place it does seem incurable…

 No.209197

>>209146
>People who go through life finding that they have the power to control their circumstances don't learn that their problems can't be fixed.
Well put.
>>209147
Where's that picture from?

 No.209200

>>209197
Looks like it is a shot from serial experiments lain. Its kind of hart to tell since it is heavily edited from the normal look of the show but that is clearly her hairstyle.

 No.209274

you can always unlearn something i suppose, not that it'd be easy

 No.209381

>>209200
It's from the 1998 playstation game.

 No.211371

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>>209112
> current problems are gifts from my shitty childhood.

You could try holotropic breathwoprk repeatedly. The thing is, that the ones who knows how it works will want to pay them with almost a kidney for that.

It's a deep issue that could drop lots of light into any ROBOT's life…

 No.211373

Probably.
As a person with low self-esteem, it's hard to separate from feelings of laziness or inadequacy.

 No.211377

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>>209083
I check that box OP along with bouts of utter anhedonia, peter pan syndrome, and the spoon theory.

I could come up with more labels that normalfaggots come up with but they're just labels. Everyone is different. I think avoidant was another one they came up with. Also if the world isn't what you say it is according to 'them' then you're warped to the point of psychosis. The list goes on. Don't like it? Well you must just be depressed!

Back to reality the society they made is shit.

>>209146
Humans are creatures of habits. If you never got a habit for success then that's simply not who you are. Advice won't help it either, only real opportunities. But would you take them? A paradox. Logic is not the issue but what your issue is habits. Willpower. It's not something you choose to have. It's programmed.

>>209112
>>211373
Sounds like the avoidant one for you(s). If the risk is too painful for the reward but there IS a reward then that sounds avoidant to me. Learned helplessness there is no reward. Then there's the spoons where you have no drive, but that one applies to any disability as it is a willpower analogy.
>>209147
Someone that feels truly helpless would call it incurable due to having lost all hope. The dogs lost all hope and just got used to it so you're avoidant too. You even use the word avoid.



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