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 No.231132[Last 50 Posts]

getting annoyed by stupid coworkers edition

previous >>228423

 No.231133

what was wrong with the other one?

 No.231134

I am NEET on welfare now but back when I worked as condo security my coworkers were fine. The main problem was the boss, supervisors, managers, etc. Basically anyone with an elevated status who would talk down to me or treat me like garbage because I was a minimum wage expendable employee.
Some of the people I had to interact with were awful too. A resident would get furious and yell at me because of something happening to them outside of my control. Like if they parked illegally and got a ticket from the city, or they lost their key and I'm not allowed to let them back in to their house but they refuse to listen and abuse me for an extended period. People trying to claim parcels without showing ID, etc.
I didn't make the rules. The property management does all that. Ridiculous how grown adults throw temper tantrums at me because I don't cater to their unreasonable demands. Humanity is rotten.

>>231133
I think once the thread hits 300 posts it stops bumping and gets archived quickly.

 No.231135

>>231134
How you got the NEETbux?

 No.231136

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>>231135
I live in Canada.
COVID19 works out to my benefit because I got extra cash and I don't even need to see my caseworker anymore. I talk to them twice a year over the phone and that's that. It's a blessing for now. Hopefully the economy doesn't crash and they kick me off because I really need this.
Working is no longer an option because of my declining health. It's either homelessness or suicide eventually and I really don't want to be homeless.

 No.231144

Off to a wizclub as wizbartender! Saturday night is busy wish me luck!

 No.231151

>>231144
Just got a call from the Colonel we need to do a sabotage in wizriya, gonna paradrop behind enemy lines and bomb a factory. Gonna fly of this evening ugh wiz me luck. Ugh, on monday I was supposed to do a wiz presentation on our marketing strategy for the financial department, I hate being a wageslave its so trying.

 No.231152

>>231151
Damn good luck, you should really quit your Wiz Seal career, whats gonna happen to your wizkids and wizwife when you get shot?

 No.231158

>>231152
He may survive and get a wizmedal though, victory without risk brings triumph without glory.

 No.231165

get up at whatever time you want. stay up as long as you want. eat when you're hungry and sleep when you're tired. do whatever you want.

this is for your own good. you know the "deprived" lifestyle you've been living is bad for you. you're spreading yourself too thin. if you keep this up, you're going to collapse under the weight of your own instability.

you need to simplify your life. forget about the old way of doing things. if something isn't working for you now, you need to toss it out. once you do that, you'll be able to focus on what is still relevant: yourself.

 No.231221

How does this makes you feel?

 No.231222

>>231165
"do whatever you want" = blindly follow whatever urge, whim, or habit happens to be strongest at the moment with no input from your actual consciousness

This is how you become an undisciplined animal with no control over your life. This is how you lose power, weaken your Will and slowly degrade into an NPC.

 No.231224

>>231222
This "advice" is so stupid. I wish my parents sat down with me and told me that I need to finish things even if it bugs me for the time being, how you start a career so you dont have to wageslave, what their mistakes and regrets were, help me look up where I could get what education for which field of employment…
Just do what you want, what an awful thing to say.

 No.231231

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>>231132

I just walked to my car and drove home. It feels good ghosting wagie jobs.

 No.231245

>>231224
Can I be your friend?

 No.231246

So tired of my job dumping more responsibilities on me without any increase in pay or incentives. Why the fuck should I bust my ass doing more shit for literally no reason.

 No.231248

>>231245
WizK20

 No.231279

Off work, and instead of doing anything productive i simply sit, watch videos, browse forums, and drink.
It is horrible, as i work i dream of time off, and when i get it i waste it away on things i don't even enjoy.

 No.231287

25~ posts were deleted from this thread. If you want to talk about what political party may or not be better for your particular lifestyle, there's the fast moving politics thread in /lounge/ for that. Derailing this thread with such subject matter while also insulting other users on /dep/ with namecalling will result in a ban.

 No.231290

>>231248
I don't understand what you just said. Would you care to try again?

 No.231389

Anyone else here becoming an alcoholic? i've started drinking more and more heavily over the past 2 years to cope with being forced to work

 No.231391

>>231389
I'm an alcoholic and haven't worked a day in my life

 No.231392

I have recently started to become numb to my emotions, both negatively and positively. I thought I was starting to handle my emotions. Boy was I wrong. And this is why kids, you should leave toxic environments!

 No.231400

>>231389

I suffer from severe anxiety disorder, and i'm becoming an alcoholic too, because benzos made me too sleepy and prevent me to concentrate and work decently.

How much do you drink everyday?
How much hangovers affect your work skills ?

 No.231402

>>231389
Alcohol wasn't doing the trick for me so moved to drugs instead.

 No.231409

Is working and drinking/doing drugs sustainable? I feel like I'd end up not waking up from an alarm at some point and getting fired.

 No.231410


 No.231422

Quit my bricklaying apprenticeship of 8 months (29 jan to start oct)
never felt worse mentally before, must've been a lack of sleep? I averaged like 6 hours a night i think, but after may month i got this bad brainfog and it never really went away, also the negative thoughts that come with it. Like what if it never got better? anyways i quit that shit job and now im a NEET for some time and im starting to feel normal again

 No.231426

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What a time we are living in.

 No.231432

>>231422
I am at Uni and burned out for no reason. I am beating myself up because my attempts to get training in some craft failed, but I suppose it doesnt matter what I do, I will always be miserable and long for better times.
Good to know.

 No.231437

>>231400
I drink most days at least 6 or so beers, i'm a lightweight so that's a nice amount to keep me drunk enough to be happy, my hangovers are horrible though and give me bad stomach problems so i go for constant shits at work

 No.231458

>>231132
tfw I'm the stupid coworker and can see my coworkers get visibly annoyed

 No.231474

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I did it. I am free now. I quit my job and I will never have to work again. All the years of wageslaving finally paid off.

I will NEVER AGAIN get up at 5 AM IN THE MORNING to brush my teeth, chomp down my breakfast, shit, shower, and fight my way through morning commute so I can arrive on time to start my fucking job in the office.

“What’s that, Anon? You have to drive 160 kilometers per day and burn through 200 € for gas in a month just to get to work and back? Well, that really sucks. Yes, we think too that an office job such as yours would be perfectly suited for switching to home office. But you have to understand, your boss is a people’s person. He wants to see your face when he discusses things with you.”

I will NEVER AGAIN have to deal with the FUCKING SUCCUBUS supervisor who went on maternity leave for one year to let me run the show and make my working life hell after her return so she could prove that she was still in control.

I will NEVER AGAIN have to listen to FUCKING CORPORATE EXCUSES when they lay me off and tell me that it is too expensive to keep me while the SUCCUBUS SUPERVISOR is allowed to stay.

I will NEVER AGAIN have to SPEND FOUR FUCKING HOURS IN COMMUTE every day, like I did for my other job.

“Yes, Anon. We understand that four hours in commute is really long. But you see, we are an ambitious scale-up. We want to grow as fast as possible so our executives don’t have to wait so long for their big pay day. And by keeping you in the office, we can exert more control over you and make sure that you work really hard and squeeze out a few more %. Thanks to your effort, our investors will be rewarded a few months sooner.”

I will NEVER AGAIN do the WORK OF TWO OR THREE PEOPLE and burn myself out for a pat on the back.

“Wow, Anon, you really worked hard. You know what? We will promote you to a new position and give you an impressive sounding title. It will mean that you will have to do the work of three instead of just two people, but you will get 200 € more per month! What, in our vacancy we wrote that applicants can expect 5.000 € more per year for this position? Well, you don’t have the necessary experience. But come and ask HR again in three years and then we will increase your salary to the amount you should be getting now. It’s a promise!”

I will NEVER AGAIN be the bitch for five different bosses and superiors from different departments who can all come and tell me what shit I have to do for them as soon as possible. I will NEVER AGAIN be chewed out by the CEO shit happend that was out of my control but somebody had to be blamed for it so others could save their face.

For years I dealt with all this CORPORATE BULLSHIT while slaving for 5 days like a horse just to enjoy the other 2. NEVER AGAIN will I experience the dread of looking at the clock on a Sunday evening and thinking that soons my precious weekend will be over. NEVER AGAIN will I catch myself doing the 100 yard stare while thinking if this is how my life is supposed to be.

I am out, I am free, I am happy. Thank you for reading.

 No.231475

>>231474
Good for you wiz, fuck them.

 No.231476

>>231474
Are you retired? What did you do for work and for how long?

 No.231477

>>231474
lucky, i haven't even began yet to wageslave yet. how old are you?

 No.231481

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>>231475
Thank you.
>>231476
Part retired, part self employed though I don't have to work for a living any more.
Worked for more than 10 years in various jobs and different companies.
>>231477
End of my 30s.

 No.231484

>>231481
10 years to partially retire is pretty good, pretty jealous friend. What is your self employed work? You don't have to be specific if your worried about others knowing you or something, just interested is all.

 No.231487

>>231474
>>231481
based and wizscreencapped

 No.231491

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>>231484
Thank you but I have to admit that there was also quite some luck involved. Realising that there was an opportunity for me to opt out and playing my cards right was a lot of hard work, though.

I used to work in low tier management positions. It sucked but I learned quite a lot of useful things. Mainly how to get stuff done and how to make important people like me even though I mostly hated what I did and I didn't like many of the people I had to work with.

Eventually, I could have clawed my way up the corporate ladder but I found this to be too … mundane. I have seen how the people above me did even more work than I did, basically living for not much else but for their jobs and their company. In my view, these people live unhealthy, often unhappy lives and can't even properly spend the money they earn because they lack time to do so. After entering the corporate world I quickly realised that I did not want to end up like this and focused most of my energy on getting off this ride.

My self employed job is that of a writer. I am basically writing articles for blogs and magazines and stuff in my native language. Nothing special really. It's just that I really love writing and by writing texts for others I can earn some pocket money to cover my bills, even though I don't need to. It's also to keep me somewhat busy. I "work" maybe 2 hours like this per day.

 No.231497

>>231432
i'm starting welding school soon and then ill be an apprentice again.
ill get burned out but i guess i just have to hang in.
>>231474
160 kilometers? don't you get some tax deductions from that?

 No.231507

>>231491
I won't lie, being a part of management sounds pretty unwizardly and one has to wonder how you climbed the ladder with depression; and then became a writer for blogs and magazines… Either way I still give you congratz, what did you invest in? ETFs? Or did you go the reality estate method. You must have been making 6 figures or close to I'm assuming, that or you are in a LCOL area.

 No.231515

I hate my job indeed, had to drop out med school cuz no sugar daddy to pay for it, now wagecucking life style then enlisting in the army (mandatory in shithole 3rd world)..
anyway, idk whys this inferiority complex hitting on me constantly but I do really get into deep sorrow inside whenever see the rich around me.. I work at store..
anyone else hate that they force you to wear uniform? sometimes i like it, to see me and work mates are equal in shape so that i blend in and not look weirdo
i hate the monthly paying jobs. they ask me for papers and stuff but I'm literally broke and can't afford going to library and copy papers, I mean that's why I'm wagecucking right.. to afford shit


ah also, thinking about living on street once i get my first pay, don't wanna live with parents anymore even if it will cost me life etc I simply don't care anymore

 No.231520

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>>231497
Yes, there was some tax deduction. What sucked most about it was that I had to drive so much every day. I somewhat got used to it but it still was very tiring. Especially in winter when it got dark early.

>>231507
English is not my native language so maybe some of the meaning got lost. In my country corporations like to slap a nice job title on a position that is basically your average wageslave job where you don't have a say in anything important.

All you do is "manage" your position and your tasks. I never "managed" other people. What made my role a little bit different was that compared to the other wageslaves on the lowest level, I had a somewhat more freedom in deciding which task to do when.

Regarding my investments: It's a combination of different things. I never earned 6 figures, only low to medium 5 figures. However, I live in a LCOL area and have a very frugal lifestyle. No friends so I don't go out. I don't drink or smoke. Only owned 2nd hand cars. Basically, I only spend money to pay rent and basic stuff like food, internet, electricity. No hobbies except reading, writing, and taking walks when there are no other people around.

I started investing after the 2008/09 crash when everything was down. Invested in stocks, ETFs, gold, and other things. In the beginning there was a lot of luck involved because I didn't really have much of a clue what I was doing. But eventually I got better and since then it's basically compounding effects and correctly predicting macro trends.

 No.231522

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>>231520

Congratulations wizbro, I hope you have a comfy time from now on

 No.231537

>>231520
>started investing in 2008
Perfect timing then, plus that streak during the past 5 years has been rather insane, double digit stock growth every year is just out of line. I don't know what the future holds though, somehow just printing more money let every country escape the lockdown crash. Somehow I'm actually started to believe that boomer tier logic "Stocks only go up!". Hopefully the markets stay strong, what % do you need on average each year? Are you following those FIRE guides? You don't want to end up as a 50 year old man going back to work after 20 years of not working.

 No.231545

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>>231522
Thanks a lot, my dear wizfriend. I also wish you all the best. And that owl is adorable.

>>231537
Yes, the timing worked out very well. Regarding markets staying strong I think you should be very cautious. I feel that the global economy will be hit very, very hard in the next 12-18 months. But this is maybe something to discuss in more detail in another thread if you like.

Yes, I am following FIRE guides.

 No.231607

>tfw you're a target of coporate stalking for the multi million company you work for

 No.231608

>>231132
>getting annoyed by stupid coworkers edition
people here are the stupid coworkers

 No.231638

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>>231608
gtfo normie

 No.231642

>>231389
I was an alcoholic for the longest time. Last year I cut it out of my life completely only to pick up smoking as a cope. Now this year I'm back to drinking on the weekends and I've just about done away with smoking. The part of my job that requires me to be around people makes me so anxious. I've found myself comparing my life to theirs, and it makes me depressed. I know I shouldn't compare myself to others but seeing others living happy, well adjust lives surrounded by people who care for them appeals to my human desire for tribal acceptance.

 No.231644

>>231607
They know you're a threat. Take advantage of their weakness and amplify your mana vibrations. This is what Ladmin did to become CEO of his company.

 No.231713

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I heard my boss talking to another employee about how lonely he felt for spending the weekend away from his family because of work. He said he missed being with them so much even if it was just for one day and that next time he will travel to be with them, even if it was just for the weekend because being completely alone and without your family is awful.

I thought that it makes sense to feel like that when you have a family but when you are alone in life you don't get those feelings, there's nobody you will miss being with. And I understand him perfectly since his family is his biggest joy in his life. I wish he could have been my father and I'm glad I work for a man like him.

 No.231789

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Temporary work at home in customer support its a dream come true for me since I dont have to deal with idiot coworkers and their normo shit not to mention the money and time I save from not having to commute, do we really need work offices?

Too bad it will be only 'till January but I hope there's another Work at home project going on if they really want the Chink Flu meme keep going.

 No.232057

alright need a new job. preferably at home. shoot me your suggestions
also going back to school in january.

 No.232058

>>231474
>But you have to understand, your boss is a people’s person. He wants to see your face when he discusses things with you.”
I genuinely want every boomer who still makes their employees come into an office job to die. I dont know how dumb and edgy that sounds, but fucking seriously.

 No.232141

>>231474
>"NEVER AGAIN"
Something nobody asked before: What now? How will you pay the bills?

omg did you fuckin win the lottery?

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 No.232145

>>231520
>investing
How much money did you make total?

 No.232147

>>231515
>deep sorrow inside whenever see the rich around me
got guns in that shithole? what's it gonna take to push you over the edge?

 No.232164

fuck boomers and fuck shitty scam con artists companies, i cant wait for the "biggest" company nationwide to burn down to the ground for their incompetent shitty management

 No.232168

Car has broken down AGAIN in the same month leaving todays work unfinished. Tommorow I'll have to work double to finish everything and not even get any extra pay for that. God knows when I will be home today. Can't even get any sleep in the car since interior is cramped. Fucking kill me

 No.232327

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I'm finally quitting. My retail company is notorious for it's corporate and store level mismanagement, and it's shitty work for min. wage depth-grovelers like me. But, it being my 2nd job ever, and hearing former employees talk about their experiences, I'm a little glad I had what mental fortitude I didn't know I had to stay here for years, not getting a raise in all that time.

Is at-home customer service still a thing anyone can get into at this time? Anything at home that will net me $100, even $50 per week would suffice.

 No.232339

>>231491
>I used to work in low tier management positions
> I learned quite a lot of useful things. Mainly how to get stuff done and how to make important people like me
Very wizardly behavior, so you were a professional normgroid, hired on a management position which requires strong people skills and is one of the least wizardly jobs possible then you learned how to make normgroids like you because you are one of them.
But this is fine because you said you hate them so we're cool, right?
Oh btw had sex guys it was awful we can still be friends, right?

 No.232370

>>231515
I'm starting to stop caring as well. I feel like that sooner or later I'm gonna drop it all and go on the streets out of inertia. what can you do.

 No.232441

I remember I once posted here to invest your savings for free money and I got like 3 responses saying I was gambling and asking what stock. Hopefully you guys have educated yourself? Or are you still anti-"""""gambling"""""

 No.232523

Don't you just love when you get ignored by coworkers and need to keep asking over and over the same stupid stuff? Then employer tells me "wizzie you're too slow", I just don't care anymore, fire me if you want bitch.

 No.232559

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Broken down by life itself. Broken down by the machine. Hell maybe im broken down by none of that. Maybe im just bored. Go to the same fucking place everyday . See the same fucking people everyday. Take the same damn fucking pills everyday. Everyday you feel older, life is passing you by while everyone else is full throttle it seems like. Every other asshole has got it better than you other than those ones that don’t. and those fucks are so sorry you wouldn’t think they’d see next week. Maybe if I was stronger, better looking, more talented and intelligent life would be so much more amazing. There are people out there gifted with amazing fundamentals that lift them to great places. The heavens. Then there are those who are in a freefall into a black hole. The hellish reality. The stupid. The meek. The weak. The ugly. And the lunatics. All going to hell. The walk the punished take is one with rotten food thrown at you by fellow villagers.

 No.232560

>>232559
All I can say is this is a good post.

 No.232610

>that one co-worker that can't stand anyone else being in the spotlight
normies are fucking pathetic

 No.232611

>>232441
you sound like youre making shit up and type like a fucking boomer

 No.232629

I work a very strenuous labor job, and I have to say that despite all of the physical work I have to put in every day, the most difficult part of my job is simply interacting with my coworkers. They're mostly men, so perhaps it isn't quite as bad as it could be, but it's still terrible. Having to make small talk with them. Having them ask you things, and knowing that they're asking it so that if you answer it incorrectly they can have something to gossip about you with behind your back. When you have to ask a supervisor something (that's their job to deal with) and they act visibly annoyed to have to talk to you. Having to walk on eggshells lest you say the wrong thing to someone. I hate it so fucking much.

 No.232630

>>232629
To add to this, I will add that there is one thing I have learned from it. Never be nice to anyone. And never help anyone unless they specifically ask you for it. Anything kind you try to do, no matter how simple or harmless it is, will be misinterpreted in the worst possible way and used against you. I always feel that I'm bothering people so I have a tendency to want to reduce the amount of effort other people have to put in when they deal with me, and if I try to do that it is always taken badly, no matter what I say or do. It's like you can't ever win, like you're always a fucking idiot and anything that you do is wrong.

 No.232633

My female coworker always tries to talk to me while I'm on the phone with customers and gets annoyed that I can't understand her, or ignore her until I have finished with the phonecall. It's never anything urgent, last time she interrupted just to say "I'm cold, I don't like it"

 No.232642

Everywhere I look, there are more successful people than me.

 No.232696

>>232642
Try looking in India or something. You are doing better than 50% of the world, you choose to look at the 50% who are doing better.

 No.232697

>>232629
>>232630
I think this is ultimately insecurity. They probably don't even think let alone talk about you behind your back. You're trying too hard to be normal or likeable and not say the wrong thing, but that in itself is the wrong thing, because you are not confident in what you say. Don't ask me how to deal with insecurity, because that is my problem too.

 No.232706

>>232697
Not that guy. However I've had a coworker say my boss/supervisor complain about me. He wouldn't say about what. I'm still employed, and my boss hasn't talked to me about anything serious. As such it mustn't be bad. It's still enough to make me dwell on it

 No.232709

>>232697
I've been able to catch little things that people have said about me when I was not there, and the coworkers that I am referring to will also gossip about other people to me in a very insulting way.

 No.232710

>>232697
I've also had someone start a rumor about me that I was going to quit my job, which I only found out about because my supervisor asked me about it. I'd never said anything of that nature to anyone so someone simply made it up whole cloth.

 No.232712

>>232697
nah a lot of workplaces are awful and full of constant scheming and bickering, you're lucky if you find somewhere where people tolerate you as a wizard and don't abuse you

 No.232720

I'm too stupid to learn programming

 No.232752

>>232709
If that's the case than you are just being treated as equal, right?

 No.232753

>>232720
programming sucks

 No.232757

Where do all the normies get their money? everyone I see gets tons of expensive shit, expensive Macbooks,cars,IPhones,alcohol,travels etc people says that "you just have to work bruh" but I have worked a fuckton of time and I can't afford all those expensive things.

Is there some kind of cheat code for life that normies know that I don't?

 No.232758

>>232757
Yeah it's called networking to higher positions and/or having no savings.

 No.232760

>>232757
Most normalfaggots are debt slaves. All property mortgaged out, credit cards always nearing or over max, vehicles mostly owned by the bank. The really disgusting this is if they somehow fall into enough money to pay off their debt the first think they do is take out as much loans as possible again. They don't care about freedom, if being a debt slave means that they get just a little more social clout they'll do it.

 No.232765

>>232709
who cares, how your treated to your face is far more important, I respect coworkers who treat me well to my face even if they don't like me or talk shit about me behind my back because at least they're making an effort to be pleasant

 No.232767

>>232697
>Don't ask me how to deal with insecurity, because that is my problem too.
stop giving a fuck what other people think, they're all insecure as well

 No.232768

>>231279
thats exactly what I'm going through bro, you're not alone. Just keep focusing on trying to do productive stuff when you're not at work and making the most of your free time. If you don't enjoy doing unproductive stuff then you should be able to do productive stuff even if you don't enjoy it, no difference in feeling. I'm going to start working on my diet as well to maximise my energy, work takes everything out of me these days

 No.232793

>>232720
>>232753
Keep working at it until it "clicks". Eventually it will become effortless and enjoyable to think in systems and algorithms. At some point, you just figure out how to look programming problems a certain way and everything becomes clear.

>>232792

>strenuous labor job
>female

 No.232795

>>232792
Are you a retard? I think you are

 No.232798

>>232794
Non sequitur. What the heck are you smoking, my dude?

 No.232814

>>232720
>>232753
>>232793
the real hell begins *after* they hire you

 No.232816

>>232793
i work as a programmer it sucks see >>232814

 No.232818

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>>232814
>>232816
>relatively high pay for the amount of education needed
>work alone for long periods of time
>your boss can barely tell if you're doing a good job
>can browse the web and fuck around and no one bats an eye
>the longer you work on something the more they depend on you to maintain it
>can easily work on personal projects on company time to get extra money/experience
>if you're lucky, you can work remotely which means NEET level of freedom with all the benefits of having a job

It's a top-tier wizjob. If you're stressed out, just find a less stressful position at another place. I can imagine that some places are corporate normie hives full of hipsters, but if you're smart you can smell them by the way they write their job ads.

 No.232819

>open office filled with self-taught coding chads with 10 years experience
or
>work at home that makes you enjoy life even less and you end up hating anything computer related because it's always on your mind in terms of work

don't fall for it
anyone saying it's a wizjob has no idea what it actually entails

actually stay away from anything computer related because you'll lose one of the best copes and end up being one of those crabs that hates video games and anime

 No.232820

>>232818
>relatively high pay for the amount of education needed
Not really, at least not where I live. Pay is fair for the education I have.

>work alone for long periods of time

No. I have to constantly let my boss know what I'm doing and how I'm doing it before letting it into production. And this without considering the fact that I have to interact with others when I have to dip toes in other parts of the software where I'm not familiar with to ask how is the best approach to do the stuff that I have to to do.

>your boss can barely tell if you're doing a good job

Look above.

>can browse the web and fuck around and no one bats an eye

Only right now where I'm smart working.

>the longer you work on something the more they depend on you to maintain it

Can be actually true. But this depends on the willingness to get you out of the company.

>can easily work on personal projects on company time to get extra money/experience

I speak for myself but I have no will to develop or do anything related to the field when I'm done with work for the day.

>if you're lucky, you can work remotely which means NEET level of freedom with all the benefits of having a job

This is happening right now because of the pandemic but will cease as soon the vaccine hits so not really a point I guess (for me at least).

I'm not any of the guy you quoted by the way, just wanted to chime in to give my two cents.

 No.232821

>>232819
Well, every job is hell if you're terrible at it. I don't get the whole negative association thing and I've been enjoying working from home since corona started. I have no problem chilling on the computer after work.

After I answer the morning meeting call where we briefly talk about tasks for the day, I go watch TV shows, have a long breakfast, browse the web and somewhere in those 8 hours I do some amount of reasonable work. If I get stressed out, it's usually about some social aspect, like bullshit meetings or one of my teammates writing shit code (but I've been working on curbing my perfectionistic autism).

>>self-taught coding chads with 10 years experience


Been coding since I was 12, so usually I don't stress too much about technical problems. But I get stressed out when I have to argue with co-workers about technical decisions because normies seldom listen to actual arguments. They always want to use some trendy technique or technology because they saw a tech talk about it and can't understand that they come with all kinds of pitfalls and bad aspects that are only worth it in certain situations (like "microservices" bullshit).

>>232820
Considering you can work without a degree, fresh out of a coding bootcamp, I'd say the pay is insanely good for the qualifications needed. There's people pulling 6 figures writing JavaScript in Silicon Valley that probably don't even know how a computer actually works under the hood.

Your boss sounds like he micromanages too much. We always deploy to a staging and then testing environment where it's checked and tested for any obvious bugs before being deployed to production. It's rare that I will need to do a hotfix or tinker with production data where changes can become a little iffy, but even then my boss trusts me to do the job. Before starting any big feature, we usually have a meeting do talk about the architecture and big picture decisions, but there's no need to do code reviews unless it's some intern.

Also, remote gigs have been a thing even before corona. I wish this pandemic doesn't end because the absolute worst part of my job was commuting every day. There's a chance my boss will realize how much we save on paying for office space and there's no real reason for all of us to be in a room together other than following polite business culture.

 No.232822

>>232819
>you'll lose one of the best copes and end up being one of those crabs that hates video games and anime
I'm glad it happened to me. I found different things to do and my eyes aren't red and teary all the time anymore.

 No.232823

>>232821
so you work at a call center? >>232822
since you're here and needed to point it out, i doubt it

 No.232824

>>232823
>so you work at a call center?

No? Sorry if it wasn't clear, but I work as a full-stack web developer currently.

 No.232825

>>232824
did you get the job straight out of school or need to work up for years to be in the spot you're in?

 No.232827

>>232825
I did a summer internship after high school at a local company where I was working on mobile apps. I was offered a job but I didn't really like working there or the owner. Then I went to Uni to study CS for a couple years, got depressed and dropped out. Luckily, a guy from that firm was starting up his own thing and he gave me a job without any bullshit since he knew me. Smaller team meant more responsibility but more freedom as well.

 No.232828

>>232827
I always wonder what happens when all the apps have already been made and optimized. What happens to the coders then? Why should we always assume there will be infinite demand for new apps and shit? Same goes for other physical stuff too. They obviously have run out of ideas on how to improve things like laptops and phones which haven't changed now for decades besides inane shit like putting 5 cameras on it. Companies are just going to start coasting soon if they're not already and they will just cut dead weight that they don't need and there won't be enough jobs to go around.

 No.232830

>>232828
Uhm anon, there's still too much shit to do, like ai which is still in a piss poor state despite all the hype
What the phone companies lack is not ideas but the implementation, folding phones are the next big things.

 No.232831

>>232830
You do realize that each AI application that is developed will put people out of work, right? It's already happening to some extent.

 No.232832

>>232831
Like I said it's still too much in a piss poor state to replace "coders".

 No.232833

>>232828
The corporation I work at had a complete web application made, which they (we) rewrote twice, the UI entirely and most of the server side. Once with a new interface and the other time in shiny new technologies so its easier to maintain and collaborate on or something.
That and there's maintainment. There will always be something to do in a capitalist system, even if artificial and unnecessary.

 No.232834

>Perhaps the single biggest problem for people who want to work professionally in IT today, however, is the simple fact that the major problems have been solved. A few decades ago, the world was asking itself the question: "How are technology's wiz-kids going to develop a system which enables both businesses and individuals to look up information online, store their personal information safely, and carry that information around with them?" Today, we have systems in place which have answered these questions. We already have the Internet, smartphones, and online systems that let us do our shopping, pay our bills, and communicate with other people, and all of these technologies have already been around for long enough that they are refined to the point where they work pretty well for nearly everyone. No one needs to develop or design any such technology; it has all already been designed and developed. On a purely technical, academic level, university Computer Science students may encounter unsolved problems which some genius might still be able to unlock, but even most of this type of work is already finished: we already have a lot of algorithms that enable us to do most of the information-processing work that we need, and outside of specialized research, it's unlikely that anyone is going to develop new algorithms that solve existing problems. Most of the most important algorithms being developed today are actually self-correcting: things like Google's search engine are not hand-crafted by a team of geniuses who know exactly what the world is searching for; rather, the search engine self-modifies its behavior in response to what people are looking for and autonomously recognizes when it has delivered what people are looking for. A computer can program itself faster and more thoroughly than a human could program it.

https://lateblt.livejournal.com/278369.html

 No.232835

>>232834
Nonsense, IT is still in high demand everywhere and gets good money even for menial tasks, there has to be somebody doing the maintenance and every company has their own requirements related to their infrastructure, organization, production and inventory.

 No.232836

>>232821
>Been coding since I was 12,
Well duh you are one of those coding chads with +10 years of experience.

 No.232838

>>232818
>relatively high pay for the amount of education needed
in the usa, outside it doesn't pay more than other jobs
i had to graduate university to get a job, other people with the same level of education get the same pay

>work alone for long periods of time

its extremely collaborative

>your boss can barely tell if you're doing a good job

your boss can't tell if you are doing a good job, so he only cares about the speed of implementation

>can browse the web and fuck around and no one bats an eye

not in an open office

>the longer you work on something the more they depend on you to maintain it

the longer you work on something the more you want to kill yourself

>can easily work on personal projects on company time to get extra money/experience

???? you can't do what you want in the office, if you slack off at home you'll get a lot of complains because things are out of schedule
forcing people to have personal projects sucks ass i don't want to work on my free time

>if you're lucky, you can work remotely which means NEET level of freedom with all the benefits of having a job

remote is better than onsite but i still get constant calls from the pm or other team members, so i can't get far away from the desk

 No.232867

Nobody speaks to me anymore, I'm pretty much done with the things I had to do and sit all day waiting for more instructions not doing shit. Do you think I'm about to get fired?

 No.232868

>>232828
>I always wonder what happens when all the apps have already been made and optimized
I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon. What I do think is that languages will eventually get so high level any idiot with two functioning brain cells will be able to make an app and there won't be a need for programmers except for the lower level stuff


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