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 No.239540

Usually Wizards are solitary steering clear from socializing in any form so they may concentrate on uncovering the mysteries of the universe as is our nature however on a rare occasion when out foraging for medicinal herbs or traveling along the plains we come across another wizard and against all odds form a friendship.
Have you had a friend online Wizards? How did this friendship come about and do you still maintain contact? Have you lost a friend and have you been able to get over it?

This Wizard has had a friend and after much thought now considers relationships as poison of the soul for you may feel joyous sharing spells and discussing topics only a wizard could speak of amongst themselves but when your trusty owl is unable to deliver messages and you have to return to dwelling in the forest alone with no other soul alike yours again it only brings you pain.

You see the hedonic treadmill is real however one may adjust to their new normal but will never forget their previous state of spirits high sharing your wisdom with another wizard as you will forever remember what those brief moments felt like and no matter how good they were they taint your experience of life ever after and as wizards live such a long time it is all the more painful.

 No.239560

>You see the hedonic treadmill is real however one may adjust to their new normal but will never forget their previous state of spirits high sharing your wisdom with another wizard as you will forever remember what those brief moments felt like and no matter how good they were they taint your experience of life ever after and as wizards live such a long time it is all the more painful.
I agree. It's best never to have companionship if you won't be able to maintain it. Communicating with a likeminded wizard is great fun and their abscence makes solitude uncomfortable later on.

 No.239562

>>239540
>one may adjust to their new normal but will never forget their previous state
If that was the case then that would also mean the same for negative experiences, thus equalling out to simply being normalized in general. Sounds to me like you are just regretting the loss of the previous friend, or wanting a new one.

Its really not that hard to make friends if you actually want one, you just have to be willing to waste a lot of time filtering through people until you find one you can be with. For myself I find friends to be a waste of time overall, talking to singular people gets old for me. For instance they might be obsessed with some event that happened while you couldn't care less about it. The better alternative in my opinion are online sites like imageboards, I can just skip that topic and go find whatever it is that might be interesting.

Might get hate for saying making friends is easy (but time consuming), but it really is if you make an effort to learn social cues and communication. This is something I had to learn while I was a child/teenager and I have a lot of cringy memories from it. If you haven't done so yet then you have to go embarrass yourself for a long time until you learn it. Also no, I'm not a normalgroid for this, people still constantly tell me I am a "loner" and have strange thoughts, nothing I do seems to shake that off. The difference being that because I know how to interact with others they are willing to accept speaking with me, opening up chances for friendship. Anyways this isn't the relevant point, all I'm saying is to go out and just attempt to either learn communication or start filtering through people.

 No.239563

>>239562
>If that was the case then that would also mean the same for negative experiences
Except this is not the case we have all experienced abdominal pain or some illness yet we are not consciously aware that we are not experiencing pain it simply does not work that way and I dislike the simplification of Darwinian perspectives but on this front it makes sense and just from reflecting on your own experience this far it would be obvious.
The opposite is simply not true although we pain to think how good we once had it whatever that may be we do not to the inverse and if we happen to it is a conscious effort to remind ourselves to be thankful.

>Its really not that hard to make friends

In theory of course it is not that hard and baffling how so many are lonely as they are unable to make others enjoy their company but it can be a more complicated matter for some.

>it really is if you make an effort to learn social cues and communication

You are right if that is your problem but when it is on a deeper level the inability to make connections not due to people being unwilling die to poor social skills but to actually connect itself it does not matter and you can be on the level or well above the level of a normalfag when it concerns having the ability to follow social cues and being well liked by those around you and be unable to make a friend because you do not see anything in anyone on a level deeper than a casual acquaintance.

 No.239564

>>239562
guess you never learned that beggars can't be choosers

 No.239565

>>239563
>Except this [… ]own experience this far it would be obvious.
Could you expand on this section? I honestly don't understand what your trying to communicate.
>The opposite is simply not true
In my experience it is true, time washes away everything, and with it the feeling you once had. Normalization is probably one of the strongest components to human consciousness, and is very closely tied to things like habits and repetition. It is this ability that lets a man live as a slave being whipped, he normalizes even the worst experiences. "The more things change the more they stay the same". So too with trials and tribulations, melancholy and depression, or happiness and joy. Time and normalization will steal it all away.
>In theory of course
>on a deeper level the inability to make connections
Connections (and words similar in meaning) are a spook in my opinion, friendship is just two people mutually enjoying being around each other in a bond of self interest. Most of the "lonely" types don't realize that they must make an effort to entertain the other person, just as the other person does to them. There are many different situations of friendships, like pairing those who love to hear themselves talk with those who enjoy listening, but at the end of the day you dance with conversation and it takes two to play. It is actually this "deep connection" spook that makes people feel and become lonely, they continually wish for something that does not exist, and it inhibits their ability to make friends since they expect the other to just "accept" them the way they are. The reality is that you have to make concessions with your thoughts/actions, and have to lie/fake many things to maintain friendship. That is just the way it is.

>>239564
I would only accept this if you were born autistic, and I don't mean the 4chan slang autistic, but literal medical diagnosis low functioning autism. Even "high functioning autists" can make friends, they are usually just too obsessed with trains or something to bother.

 No.239574

>>239565
>Could you expand on this section? I honestly don't understand what your trying to communicate.
You said that if we do indeed create a reference after reaching a certain level of happiness which we reflect back upon constantly than the same must be true for when we reach our most miserable. I mentioned that whilst we may be aware of how bad we had once felt not feeling that bad currently does not make us feel better and we instead have to remind ourselves how good we have it on a conscious level.
The negative feelings we experience do not have the same properties as the positives when it comes to the way they affect our perception of ourselves let alone the world in entirety.
You do not wake up and feel great relief over not having the toothache when you were 13 a broken arm from childhood and the semi frequent stomach ache and so on but we are acutely aware of how not good we feel.
Although I may be aware I should be glad/thankful I am not experiencing numerous ills that I have before of various types emotional and physical this awareness is not does not shape my very experience of life itself below the conscious level if that makes sense as does not being as good as I once felt. If it was the case that we reacted the same to lows as we do highs past the event when we have returned to baseline than one would not have to strive forward with endless endeavors to chase a feeling of satisfaction and happiness but could break their arm and after healing be constantly satisfied by just not being in constant pain.

>Connections (and words similar in meaning) are a spook in my opinion,

What I mean by connection is the very ability to see someone more than an animated lump of flesh and your opinion that conenctions are somehow not real and people who cannot make connections just need to make an effort to entertain people is obviously garbage.
This is ONLY the case if t is people who are socially inept as mentioned before so once again not everyone is socially retarded and some are just NOT able to enjoy other people compared to what would be considered normal.

The Schizoid individual lacks for example the ability to connect to others do you think a schizoid who is unable to establish value in a relationship with another just needs to learn to make an effort to entertain another?
In my very experience this does not align with reality as I can function highly on a social level above even normal cattle yet there have only been a few instances in my life where I had been able to have a connection with another and this goes for family as well.
This goes beyond being able to be accepted by others this is not the problem you are once again looking at the problem through the perspective of someone who has difficulty making a friend because they do not have the skills or awareness for others to find value in themselves.
Do I need to post an excerpt from medical notes I have which concern my stay in a mental hospital and the observation that I was a high profile patient but choosing to keep to themselves and ignore others after establishing themselves socially?
My point is that there is more to this than the ability to participate socially.

 No.239577

>>239574
>does not make us feel better and we instead have to remind ourselves how good we have it on a conscious level.
Which is just nonsense, since that would also apply to the reverse. What you are really telling me is that you are depressed because you obsess over negative thoughts while not doing the same with good ones. I suggest normalfag advice: "think positively" but unironicaly. You have created a false delusion, the reality is that you are alive.
>the very ability to see someone more than an animated lump of flesh
So a spook, which means you fall directly into the category that I suggested earlier. The rest of your post just continues that connection mean anything beyond self interest, which is delusional.

The truth is that you are a gender dysphoric CC migrant trannycrab suffering from drug/porn addiction and delusional thoughts. My suggested therapy and cure is suicide as soon as possible.



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