I didn't. I just suffer through it whenever I need to go out to get something.
I enjoy making people uncomfortable, because I think they are bad in general and deserve a bit of trouble in their daily affairs. I hope they find me to be a thorn in their side. The only social anxiety that still makes sense to me is the fear of being attacked, but with everyone having a cameraphone I take solace in them being arrested and their life marred by an assault charge, so meh.
whenever i'm doing groceries or anything like that, i'm scared, shaking and start mumbling and forgetting words
i feel like i have no idea what i'm doing and that everybody can see that, i even write down what i need to buy because i'm forgetful and i haven't seen anybody else do that, i really feel like a freak
I stopped watching porn. I used to coom at least once per day every day, couldn't make eye contact and smelled like shit. After I stopped cooming I could start to look people in the eyes.
it is really hard and normalfags wont believe you when you say how hard it is because they've never experienced not being able to leave their house(inb4 someone mentions housing is a privilege), there is almost no way to get over it, if you have true anxiety the only way is benzodiazepines, but even then you cannot take them every day because of the high risk of tolerance and dependence, so you will only be able to get out some times
it's really hard to drive on benzos also. unless you have someone to take you everywhere it's not really practical.
That's a nice feeling. You know they watch you because you look out of place and they won't suspect that you have the will power to meet their stare but when you actually just irresistibly stare back there's a breaking point where they then will look away overtrumped. So fucking satisfying.
So fucking normie
Yeah, in my case it's not anxiety. People *do* stare in this neighborhood and even tell you to fuck off despite you simply minding your own business or going to buy food.
I hate 99% of people.
No, it's about intimidating the normie. I only did this like once or twice because usually I don't care.
This is gonna sound woo woo, but I started sleeping more, fapping less, and remembered to take my meds at the same time every day. Not ticking as much in public is a confidence booster (meds and magnesium help there).>>242185>i even write down what i need to buy because i'm forgetful and i haven't seen anybody else do that
Everyone does that. Unless you're buying <3 items, memory will fail you. My mom & I have excellent memories and we still need lists. Now imagine your typical "memory of a goldfish" normie without a list.
Taking distance from my shitty family, becoming more independent, doing work, being nicer to myself, getting to know my feelings more, giving myself time to change, going shopping at times when there's less people there (part of being nicer to myself), not fapping (also part of being nicer to myself)
Still occasionally get anxious but I don't fight it, just respect my feelings and when it happens I try to leave the place without undue delay. It does not happen often.
Protip: If you don't stare at people like an autist, they will be less likely to stare at you.
This is very true, if you subconsciously keep looking at people thinking they look at you they will get irritated and actually start staring at you, this used to happen to me all the time
There are a number of drugs you could do that are anxiolytic. You could try phenibut, kratom, or pramiracetam.
You could also try phenibut, kratom, or pramiracetam
>>244911>Don't try any advice mentioned so far, just become a test rat for this expensive, addictive, big pharma drug that inhibits vital brain function. It is very good for [STRING_OP'S_PROBLEM]
Your skin, it's GLOWING
SSRIs are fucking shit, I used to take them. I was a literal zombie NPC. According to studies they're barely more effective than placebos. It could work for some people but I was too scared of the cognitive side effects.
They aren't too bad from my experience, a few made me manic and the others made it impossible for me to be sad, other than that there weren't really any bad effects for me, discontinuing them caused mild withdrawal symptoms for a few days, nothing someone with a minute amount of self-control couldn't handle
I just avoid looking at people, when I am in a room full of people I just look at my phone, when I am at some store I just look at the products and when I need to go somewhere I go out really early in the morning so I will not meet anyone
Bad place to ask OP. This sounds dumb but just try to not be afraid
I didn't, I just got used to the feeling. it still sucks tho
i had social anxiety until i was literally crucified by my peers and authority for being introverted and polite, and it awakened how plain evil and unthinking normalfags are. they arent people just meat that leech off others and alienate anyone not like then. anyone who has anxiety just hasnt been through enough. i have no fear of the soulless
>>242182>How did you get over your crippling social anxiety?
Got into drugs and alcohol until it became such a bigger problem that having social anxiety is just a small dumb thing in comparison to being a fiend :^)
This. I could probably handle it by being high/drunk all day, but that's not much of a solution really.
cuz u just stop fucking caring. life is stupid and pointless once i realized that i stopped caring.
being comfortable socializing or being around people is like a muscle that needs building. when i first started working as a teacher it was absolutely savage; i have clinical depression and every day's walk to class to teach was like a fucking death march. overwhelming dread, depression, and despair. month by month it became slowly less painful. after a year it wasn't a big deal anymore.
why do people like this even bother to reply to threads like this? You obviously don't have anywhere near the level of problem that OP has because you went to college and can work a job. If you are able to do that you're normal, it's completely normal to be nervous at a new job and then you get used to it. This is not anything like what we're talking about. If you are under the impression that you're somehow being helpful by posting this garbage, please let me assure you that you are mistaken.
I used to be a chad until i got into drugs specifically weed, it triggered paranoid psychosis and anxiety.
Going outside is hard, being in groups is hard, going to the store is a nightmare. I take antipsychotics and ssri's, that makes it manageable. I still come across ad fidgety odd and nervous. I give off weird vibes
>>245199>I used to be a chad
No, we can't "just" stop caring. To truly give up all hope is difficult. In most people there will always be a glimmer of hope that you might be in a better situation next year.
Yeah. It's human nature. The inherent, permanent will to keep going no matter what.
your post is predicated on the assumption that if someone has accomplished something, they were only able to do so because they did not have a serious challenge to overcome.
second year of uni i got hit with clinical depression. it was so bad i couldn't do my school work or motivate myself to go to class. i started failing all my courses and was put on academic probation. it cost me everything i had to get enough pass grades to not flunk out of school completely. after graduation, i was a neet because i was too fucked up to work. after two years of living as a neet i finally got a teaching job through a huge amount of help from my parents. if my dad hadn't done so much to help me i would still be a neet. working the job was absolutely horrible that first year, being forced to socialize with so many people every day was agonizing. but i still did it. and in the end it was good for me.
i'm sure there are plenty of people in the world who have suffered under much heavier burdens than me, but that doesn't invalidate the challenges i've had in my life or the insight i have to offer. you behaving so rudely to a fellow wiz is unproductive and juvenile. if you have nothing constructive to offer don't participate in the thread.
you're disgusting, honestly
you'll never know what true suffering really is and you should be thankful for that
if you're so considerate about other anons on this board it'd be better if you just left…
I'm curious… how old are you OP? I ask because when I was younger, that is in my teens - early/mid 20s, I wouldn't leave the house and whenever the doorbell rang my heart would race. The only place I'd go to is the doctors and my mom would talk for me. I can't say whether or not I still have social anxiety as I don't go out unless it's to the doctor. Nowadays I am a wizard and can open the door to delivery drivers and when I go to the doctor I speak to the receptionist myself. I'd say I am less anxious and more apathetic nowadays. Maybe it will decrease with age for you.
>>245223>i got hit with clinical depression
These days, the second I see something like this I instantly know the person saying it is a normalfag. If you're actually fucked up, depression isn't just something you "get" or can overcome. It's a completely persistent and irrecoverable state that's always on to some degree or another.
I wouldn't go as far as the other guy in calling you 'disgusting', but you should really fucking hush.
He went to uni and works as a teacher (!). Enough said.
I honestly don’t mind going to the grocery store. What I do mind is people seeing me places alone when/where most people would usually be with people. It makes me self-conscious and I think everyone is judging me as being a lone loser on say, a Friday night downtown
oh, excuse me. what does qualify as real suffering? what have you experienced that that gives you the right to criticize me? you're just coming across as an asshole.>>245226
you've gone from uncertain assumptions about me to making totally ludicrous ones based on a single expression? your projecting things onto me to validate yourself. i never said i recovered from my depression. i manage it. i still feel like shit on a regular basis, im just no longer a wreck who cant function or hold a job. what the fuck have you suffered that gives you the right to criticize me? if you won't explain the experiences you've had in your life that you think invalidate mine, then i see no reason why i or any other user should take you seriously or give your criticism the slightest notice. >>245232
this is so defeatist and pointlessly exclusionary. people like you and the above posters seem keep trying to prop up this system of social credit in which you are only an upstanding citizen of wizchan if you have refused to do anything to make your life better when you life is shit. there is no nobility in suffering.>>242182
anyway OP, i decided to deal with my depression and social anxiety by throwing myself in the deep end and staying there. i couldn't stand being around people; apart from bringing me no happiness or fulfillment, it sucked up all my energy and often just worsened my depression. no half measure helped me, so i decided to pick a solution that would be as harsh as possible, teaching: constant socializing and public speaking. jump in with both feet wiz. you will feel like you are fucking drowning, and its fucking horrible, but if you endure it you'll find you become more capable of managing it. if like my critics you feel that my i have no social credit (lol) after admitting i work as a teacher, you can disregard my comments. but if you aren't as short sighted as them, i would further say to you that there is no nobility in suffering. no one is watching, no one cares, no one will save you, and you gain nothing by it. you can live in misery, or you can take steps to TRY and be less miserable. >>245224
i'd also like to know OP's age. it would give us a better context to view his problem and give advice.
go seek attention elsewhere faggot
no, the saltiness of pussies like you makes me feel to damn good!
I will go against the grain and agree with your post. The only person who cares about your suffering is you.
The universe doesn't care even if you suffer every second of your life.
Only you can make it less painful, unfortunately that means adapting some normie behaviors.
I was recently approved for medical marijuana so I'm hoping that helps
Ah yes, the addictive, expensive drug known to make people nervous and paranoid is now being sold as a treatment for being weary for social interaction. Have you even tried just going outside and talking to people? It really does work. If you smoke up before leaving the house, do your town a favor and put on a change of clothes and chew some gum. People will give you a legitimate reason to treat you poorly if you reek of dope.
I don't use it, but far as I know you can put it into brownies, pastries or food and just eat it for the exact same effect.
There is no need to smoke it.
Were you ever bullied?
constantly throughout middleschool, but not after that. i made a point to go to a really small, low key highschool to escape it. fortunately things improved for me there.
Your entire post proves my point. You were a normal person who had some difficulty and quickly got over it. THIS IS NORMAL. YOU ARE A NORMALFAG. It's insulting when you try to pretend otherwise. You say "oh I had some issues once but then I tried real hard and I got over it, so you will too". It implies that the person is at fault because he just didn't try as hard as you did to overcome your problem. In reality deep-seated issues like the one OP is talking about preclude anyone from living a normal life at any time, it's not a temporary issue like yours that you can just get over and go back to being normal. The whole point is that you're not normal to begin with. In effect you are taking the opportunity to stroke your own ego in the guise of offering advice. I agree with the other poster who called you disgusting.
Brother! If you live in the US try phenibut. I use between 1-2g once a week when I go out. It erases all social anxiety
how is the comedown?
Do you know an online source? Looks very interesting. I am in europe though
Anyone else get tangible headaches after being out somewhere with a lot of people for more than 30-60 minutes?
Realized you have to log in to read the article, but you can just search about it on google and more information will pop up
I was prescribed propranolol for a little bit, it's just a beta blocker with no psychoactive effects. If your anxiety is purely physically based then it will work, if it is cemented mentally from years of anxiety it won't do a thing. I consider propranolol a thing you would give to shy children so that they will end up forming better social habits, but for an adult with years of anxiety already reinforced it does nothing.
how does it compare with xanax?
propranolol is a beta blocker that lowers blood pressure, xanax is a psychoactive drug that enhances the effect of relaxing chemicals in your brain
have you tried both?
At the same time or used both? I've used both, but not at the same time, propranolol basically does nothing, I took 10 of my propranolol pills once and nothing happened, its only use is to stop shaking/sweating/stuttering when you're nervous, it doesn't have any anti-anxiety effect
Why are you downtown on a Friday night? Usually if I needed groceries or something I'd go in the last hour before the supermarket closed and nobody stares because that's when all the weirdos are in anyway. I didn't have to go anywhere else though so can't help you there.
Why do you care what normalfags think? When I would run out of alcohol I used to just go into a bar and drink alone whether it was a weekday or weekend. I've gone out into the city alone, movies alone, etc. Fuck what they think
I used to have pretty bad social anxiety I guess. Spent pretty much the first 6 or so years of life after graduation rarely leaving the house or speaking to anyone. Before then I always had regular nervousness with social situations but I could somewhat manage with nice people.
Exposure therapy does work to lessen it but it is not a cure. In the old days I would walk through a store dripping sweat off of my hair and glasses because I was terrified. I would have to find empty places to hide in until I could recuperate and if someone spoke to me they would either get a nonsensical mumble or a nervous laugh in return. Now I can at least function enough to handle dealing with business matters and hopefully come off as human so long as they don't try to start a conversation. I still do not enjoy social activity and it feels like whenever someone starts talking to me a stressful chess game begins and I have to make all the right moves. I usually try to end the game asap so I can leave.
As for drugs that work I have never come across anything among all of the usual ssris, beta blockers, phenibut, etc.
What does seem to work is alcohol and xanax. Good luck getting xanax anymore because it seems they really hate giving them out and it annoys me because my normalfag grandmother was getting them for no real reason while I was dying of anxiety from just hearing a doorbell sound .wav
Obviously walking around drunk all day isn't going to be a good idea
I hate to say it but you may have to simply accept that this is how you are. You can probably still make friends and stuff if they're understanding.
It's not as simple as that>>245399
It sounds like you're trying to pretend you're socially anxious, for some reason, specially reading the last part, it's pretty weird.
Either that or you got something different, or you're just privileged, because I can't really imagine accepting it as it is, I'd had to be stuck hiding in this desolate room for the rest of my life, and I'd rather just kill myself, there's no reason to keep going. Even if there wasn't (there is) a solution, i would die coping, cuz there would be absolutely no reason to keep going otherwise.
Being an introvert i guess is part of one's personality and mostly immutable, social anxiety is something you develop and can definitely overcome.
>>245402>It's not as simple as that
True. However it's still helpful to try to keep those thoughts in mind. It might give you a slight improvement. And you can also remember it as a goal.
You can't convince yourself of it now but it would be good if you could reach it.
>>245402>It's not as simple as that
It literally is though. The one and only requirement for living and people like us is money. Once you got that you are free to do whatever you like.
This. A wizard's life makes or breaks on money.
It's heaven or hell based on whether those numbers are present on your bank account or not.
In Sweden they really don't want to give it benzo but then it's possible to buy serbian benzo on the darknet
There isn't one really. I just sleep it off >>245352
I use 250mg capsules from nootropic depo. You can find it cheaper elsewhere though
Jesus Christ you are a faggot and lazy. Read >>245258
. Also, you won't share your life experience to substantiate your views having any validity. This makes you either a fraud or a pussy. I was never accepted or normal. I've been an outsider most of my life (you didn't read>>245330 either) and have been abused by normals. I just learned to make my life less painful to live. You don't read posts in the thread and you think your unproven expectations are facts. Thank you for wasting my time and the time of the other people in this thread.
People who are too intransigent to accept new information or ever revise their opinions (to even the smallest degree) are not worth speaking to. I'll continue posting in the thread, but I'm done with you since you either lack character or are a troll.
To everyone else in the thread, I am sorry for getting off topic.
Anyway, getting back on topic.>>245356
I take it to help with my panic attacks. It's a life saver. Any time I need to do public speaking for school activities I'll take a dose beforehand. I had a panic attack in front of one of my classes in the past which was humiliating and set wrecked my social credit at my workplace.>>245399>Exposure therapy does work to lessen it but it is not a cure.
I would echo this. I think it's a necessary element for dealing with this problem. However, you sort of need to take cocktail of actions if you want to substantially mitigate the issue, in the same way you usually need a cocktail of different meds to deal with a mental illness.
yea sounds based but this mindset also basically disconnects you from people even more. this can make your life even harder
very good post. for me, getting stabbed for wearing a covid mask was basically a gamechanger.
just leave and never come back crab, mass replying dont do nothing for you either, just leave and dont look behind you normalfag.
"hurr durr im a teacher"… just fuck off cunt
This is pretty much how I've spent my entire 32 years of life. I've learned to just let my eyes glaze over and stare ahead unless someone is in front of me then I turn to the side.
No it's not. SSRI's are a god send for panic attacks, didn't do shit for my social anxiety.
Exposure, and adults can't just bully people like teenagers did to me when I was also a teenager, adults don't get validation from openly bullying other adults for no reason, so no matter how much a of a awkward stuttering mess you are, nobody will say anything most of the time, after realizing this I just stopped caring, I can even make small talk now, not that I enjoy it, but I can.
>>245965>adults can't just bully people like teenagers>adults don't get validation from openly bullying other adults for no reason>nobody will say anything most of the time
Ohh boy this is plain and simple WRONG, where are you even from?
>>245965>adults can't just bully people like teenagers
Do you even leave your house once in a week? 3 Steps out of the door and i already get attacked by boomers for wearing mask so your reply is basically a fantasy of a blind person but whatever helps you sleep at night right bud, i just hate untruthful people man, you just cant do general statements like >>245965>adults can't just bully people like teenagers
or >>245965>adults don't get validation from openly bullying other adults for no reason>>245965>nobody will say anything most of the time
Just dont lie, is that really too much to ask for?
Adults can be even much more gruesome because they are way more superficcial, they will mock you for your crooked teeth, they will rip you apart for EVERYTHING you do.
my experience is, even being too confident makes them attack you.
i was basically shy all my life, now, im basically napoleon complex the person, and western succubi try to shut me down for "speaking too loud". Trust me man, we will never be good enough "for them". Just realize, its a satanic world because of war and the media, there is bascially no freedom, dont expect peace, i know it sound harsh but, the smartest thing to do is to attack first before they find something to attack YOU. just scream at them, this will scare away 95% of the people already, in my experience, even bodybuilders or even boomers.
but I can't physically fight so I can't afford to chimp out like a nigger, like you do.
fights are in tv but thats not reality bud. You are scared of the unknown but thats a normal thing. see, thing is, you have to "win" situations to get a better mindset about your life.
its okay to ignore bullys but remember, you need "wins" too, otherwise something satanic will build up in you. for me, buddhism helped me alot, i live in an almost empty apartment, people cant hurt me no more, they cant take away things off of me, im already gone, its just the flesh left.
children, teens, adults, the amount of evil (appetite for bullying and other forms of cruelty, etc) in people doesn't change, but how it manifests does. the typical "school yard" bullying which most people define as "bullying" fades away, but is replaced by other forms abuse. like your boss chewing you out over minor mistakes and giving you shit assignments for petty reasons. i would argue that the style of abuse changes but the quantity usually does not. so in a certain rhetorical context, the poster you responded to is correct. what most people define as "bullying" doesn't really leave the school yard, but rather is replaced with a different system of cruelty inflicted in a different style. >>246090
i don't agree with his point on attacking first, but i do believe that harsh retaliation against people who attack you is necessary. you need to show bullies you aren't a soft target. if they know you will defend yourself, they will look for new prey. they are cowardly filth looking for easy fun.
>>245747>you said you're a teacher so i'm going to not read the content of your posts and just criticize you based on my assumptions
Why do you remain with them?
When I found anything in a job I despised I started making plans for moving to a different one.
smartest person in the room but talking to you is just a waste of time, typical smartass behavior, using big words but in the end nothing more than unhelpful,general statements to collect karma points.>>246148>harsh retaliation against people who attack you is necessary
because attacks=attacks? you are the big mr. teacher but refuses to differentiate between "attacks", interesting. random occurring attacks of strangers are not same as attacks of people from your close social circle though. this is why >if they know you will defend yourself, they will look for new prey
is just not really the case here bud. >i don't agree with his point on attacking first
why are white people scared of Untermenschen then? i am careful in their near because i know they have no barrieres to attack me first, right? screaming at people first to turn the table from the beginning in your favor are basics of cult and religion school. i dont want to go into details because i enjoy you guys suffering but in reality its basically "whoever screams first, wins" but anyway, for you its better to leave and never come back.
>just don't care
when you're in the social situation it doesn't seem so easy anymore
>just keep doing it until you get used to it
if i didn't get used to it by now, i don't think i ever will
it's easy for people to give advices like this, since they don't exprience that problem themselves or simply, it worked for them
I get socially anxious when I have to talk to people beyond work/study related stuff or plain small talk. They get weirded and petrified by my existence once they recognize I'm celibate, don't enjoy things like tv shows, anime or video games, don't talk much and generally look weird.
I'm perfectly fine with going to the store and doing chores like that because you're pretty anonymous
that way. I don't really understand why people are afraid of this exactly, unless u live in a small city where you can get recognized by people you don't want to see.
>>248322>I don't really understand why people are afraid of this exactly
normies love to measure up and stare down others, averting their gaze is sometimes, in certain situations, even worse than looking at them
every time you pass by a normie outside and look on the floor while he looks you in the eyes is giving them a feel-good dominance check
Spite. Eventually, after struggling with anxiety for a long time, I began to despise other people for making me anxious around them. I realized that it was hyper cucked to be injurious to myself for the sake of other people. I don’t feel anxious or nervous around them at all now. In fact, sometimes I willingly do things to displease them or get them mad, just to remind myself that I don’t give a fuck about them. Live only for yourself, because there is no one else worth living for
This seems conflicting with your post about SSRIs
How do you always know who I am? Are you watching me or something?
Try kratom anxietybros
admins can track everything
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Dunno, it never gets easier honestly. I've put myself out there and it's just more torture and humiliation. Good shit.