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 No.246089

I've never been a religious person but lately I've been thinking more and more about going to church in hopes of it acting as kind of a safe haven for social rejects like me, am I retarded?

 No.246093

>>246089
It's probably a bad idea. Most churchgoers are highly pro-social boomers who ironically enjoy judging people. Talking to a priest can be an interesting experience tho, especially the Catholic ones, but don't expect a non NT friendly environment at all.

 No.246094

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>thinking religious people actually care about you, instead of seeing you as just another subject and financial target

 No.246096

>>246094
yeah I dont think most of the other churchgoers will care about me, most priests etc probably wont either, but atleast they will act like they care as long as I leave some money there every now and then, idk

 No.246097

Christianity is extremely anti-wiz. They think you need to 'be fruitful and multiply' by breeding everywhere, that you deserve to suffer for eternity and praise the abuser. Far better to be dead than listen to their shit

Buddhism might work if you consider it to be a religion

 No.246105

>>246097
Christianity isn't anti-wiz. You're literally supposed to follow a literal Wizard. The way how it's practiced by modern churches which cater to normalfags and femoids is another thing.
Church is a mafia and probably majority of the priests are indeed pedos.

 No.246107

>>246105
The wizard type of christianity is a myth; such churches don't exist. You can try to do it by yourself with an individual interpretation of the religion, but that is off-topic from this thread

 No.246110

>>246097
I second Buddhism

 No.246111

>>246107
Well OP asked is he retarded, so wanted to say more than just a simple "Yes"

 No.246114

>>246097
t. has never read the bible

 No.246117

>>246097
"He that is unmarried
careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please
the Lord: but he that is married careth for the things that are of the world,
how he may please his wife."
(1 Corinthians 8:32-33)

"These are they which were not defiled with succubi; for they are
virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he
goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits
unto God and to the Lamb.
And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault
before the throne of God."
(Revelation 14:4-5)

 No.246128

>>246114
t. has never met a christian

 No.246138

>>246089
Depends on the church. Unitarian Universalists exist but are naive by their very nature. As it is they are few and far between and are technically for the rejects.

 No.246144

>>246128
If you're basing the validity of an ideology on people that supposedly follow this ideology then spare yourself the trouble and become a hedonist.

 No.246145

>>246105
>Christianity isn't anti-wiz. You're literally supposed to follow a literal Wizard.

this made me laugh my ass off. so many users want to reject Christianity out of hand because it is too "mainstream" or they have a bunch of baggage they attach to it that is based on their interpersonal relationship history and not the actual teachings of the faith. i can't believe no one has brought up this point before here. lol well done, fucking fantastic

>>246096
church communities are like communities centered around anything else any place else. some are loose and some are tight.

> but atleast they will act like they care as long as I leave some money there every now and then, idk


thought i'm basically a nihilist now, i was raised in roman catholic family and this was never once my experience when taken to church by my parents

>>246107
finding a "wizard" church community is pretty much impossible, but (as has been discussed in many other threads) living in a monetarist on the other hand would be quite wizardly. this point has been discussed many times already.

 No.246147

>>246145
*living in a monastery

 No.246150

You must be retarded to wilfully worship the same """deity""" that has made you suffer like a dog in the first place

 No.246155

>>246150
you've got a point

 No.246161

Christianity is following Christ, someone who suffered like a dog Himself. It's faith/trust in His words that He's done it for you and that by trusting Him you're making the right choice.

That's it, will you follow teachings of a Wizard crushed by this world 2000 years ago? Because if you do it's all it takes to be a Christian. You can ignore everything that happened later and you don't even have to think about God or anything. Will you trust a fellow Wizzie?

 No.246162

>>246150
I'm pretty sure it's my parents being too stupid/selfish to use protection and it's people I've met or that impact my life that make me suffer.

 No.246163

>>246162
The implication is that god causes those things to happen, silly.

 No.246170

>>246163
I have faith, not knowledge. I'm not gotta bet that misfortunes happen because of sky daddy that (probably) doesn't exist, because that's what people causing those misfortunes want me to focus on, instead of them.

 No.246181

>>246097
Jesus was an antinatalist wizard.

 No.246182

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>>246089
Brother/sister, only God can give refuge and peace, don't go to churches that is paganism, buy or look for a Bible, read it and learn from the teaching of Jesus (God). Also pray from your heart (and not to figures, that is idolatry), pray to Jesus and ask Him for faith and His holy spirit and seek Him through faith, good works and reading the Bible. I hope I have helped you.
God bless you, amen.

 No.246185

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 No.247113

>>246089
Any contemplative order is highly wizardly, but don't try if you can't handle the asceticism, the whole thing might be cool in the beginning but that lifestyle will get to you in one way or another, that is where the fun begins. If you don't believe everything the Church teaches, you will fail.

 No.249125

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>>246089
Become Orthodox,the true Church of God

 No.249127

I've been reading about Marcionism recently. I took Penn Jilette's advice to "Just read the fucking Bible," and sure enough that made me an atheist. Even when people told me to skip to the New Testament, there were just so many things that thematically didn't make sense given the whole pacifist theme that was going on (The Cleansing of the Temple is the biggest one, the other being to tell his disciples to buy swords)–I recall reading Lewis' Trilemma around this time and walked away with the thought that Jesus was just one of those religious schizos you meet on the street.

However, Marcion's Bible and theology makes a lot more sense. All the evil shit in the Old Testament–is because it was actually done by an evil being. All the parts of the New Testament that I had issue with, did not actually happen according to Marcion.

 No.249128

>>249127
Its telling how an outsider just reading the Gospels neutrally can see the obvious pacifist message, and yet every Church in history, bar a few tiny sects, has ignored pacifism without sweating it. Not even a issue worth debating

 No.249129

>>249125
Orthodoxy is fantastic, I am too afraid to join the church though and attend Protestant services

 No.249133

>>249128
Jesus told us to buy swords tho.

 No.249163

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>>249129
Don't worry Anon, we will always welcome you with open arms

 No.249170

Religious people are very judgemental. Not a good safe haven unless you blend in and are accepted in a very welcoming community but that just means they judge you to be good (i.e. you follow blindly)

 No.249194

>>246089
I would be careful of churches, temples, etc. I would say most have turned into social clubs now where people just go to boost their nepotism connections rather than actually believing in/worshipping a god. I know my old one did and it damn near made me stop believing in God before I got out of religion and found peace in God without going to a church.

Now, I go to a occasionally go to a nearby cathedral during the day. When there is no service, there is hardly anyone there and it is just so peaceful and pretty. That's when I feel God more than any time during a Sunday service.

 No.249196

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My cat looks galactic after it opened my glitter bag for decorating Warhammer figures.

I wonder if I should worship him as divine

 No.249221

>>246089
I did this but for different reasons. Once you go there enough people will start trying to "get to know" you. Soon after that they will find out you are not normal, unless you know how to hide it. Even in an environment where people are supposed to be nice, you would be surprised at how nasty some people can be once they detect there is something wrong with you. Other people there are friendly and easy to get to know. You'll have to play social minesweeper every Sunday. The smaller the church and/or denomination is the more this is true.

With a large church, you can pretty much just slip in and out without anyone noticing. But that seems to not be what you're looking for. I think if churches were done more like monasteries they would be better for wizards.

 No.249226

>>249221
Small churches are completely full of entirely unsentient robots, and I mean 50x worse than the average "normie".

That's why they were brainwashable into a small cult in the first place. They are just completely will-less drones that can be manipulated by an authority figure or someone with a fake title to do just about anything, probably even to jump off a skyscraper in the name of Jesus.

Don't expect any sympathy from them, they are base animals in human bodies, living on absolute pure instinct.
Show even the slightest sign of not being a career-normie and they will turn rabid dog on you.

Larger churches have more human-like people in them due to the sheer volume of people involved, some aren't even religious and go there simply out of habit.

Avoid small denominations and cults like the plague (well, churches in general too, but if OP insists on going to one, it should be a larger one)

 No.249227

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> churches, temples, etc. I would say most have turned into social clubs now where people just go to boost their nepotism connections rather than actually believing in/worshipping a god.

The only "believers" there are the suckers those nepotism clubbers attempt to profit off of through donations and membership fees.

They have no real belief in anything except money.

 No.249236

>>249227
of course jesus talks to a sister-raping, succubi-beating capitalist goon.

 No.249237

>>249236
>>249236
>sister-raping, succubi-beating
based

 No.249279

>>249127
>I recall reading Lewis' Trilemma around this time and walked away with the thought that Jesus was just one of those religious schizos you meet on the street.

Unfortuately the "faith healing" jesus did puts him likely on the level of one of those pentecostal faith healers that scam people for their money. The fact that he had a loyal entourage makes me think he was a glib, charismatic Jim Jones type of person, your typical narcissitic cult leader. That's the cynical side of me talking at least.

 No.249318

welcome



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