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 No.247498[View All]

The gatekeepers are dead and we're staring down the barrel.

BUT wizards, outcasts, outsiders, those who now merely exist, we've been afforded a unique priviledge; namely front row seats to, I wouldn't call it a collapse, but a continuing and steady acceleration of the degradation of the human. I'm sure a societal collapse is not too far off; I read somewhere it rained for the first time in recorded history somewhere in the arctic circle, barely made a blip on the news radar.
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 No.248038

>>248029
>last 2 decades

TWO decades? Sure there was linetrap and other fags but this trans shit wasn't full stream until the 10s.

 No.248042

>>248038
An extra decade was added for the control. Two decades ago they were a man, last decade they 'became a succubus.'

 No.248045

I have to vbrosit’ svoi 5 kopeek. What you call the end here is just logical conclusion of the great work which was done by philosophers of last century and just the beginning. Human kind has to give birth to posthumans and disappear. All the rapid degradation mentioned above is in fact deconstruction . Humans are pushing the borders of what it means to be human. We will see more and more shit like this coming with 5th industrial revolution. Also it seems like that superior cyber control will lead to cities becoming living beings on their own. Imagine a city controlled by AI figuring out the best way of self development and commanding people what to do. We will be like cellls or bacteria inside a larger organism. Also survival outside of the cities would be pretty hard due to us fucking up the climat completely.

 No.248055

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>>248045
Post human? How is living as a failed male and a horrific caricature of a female post-anything?

>Humans are pushing the borders of what it means to be human.

My fucking ass. Humans are just becoming ever more narcissistic and turning (or have turned) into walking billboards.

 No.248059

>>248029
cosmo had a gf before turning into a tranny though

 No.248067

>>248055
I forgot to add:

There was this moment during lunch time at one of my wageslave jobs where they have the tri-annual discussion on their next mobile phone upgrade when they noticed my phone was several (5)years old and roped me into the discussion. They started, almost reflexively, espousing the brand new "features" of the latest model, one of which was
>it comes with a pen which can you use to draw on the phone screen

I asked him why would I need that feature? Why would HE need that feature? No real answer. I asked him why he needed to get this year's phone when he already has last year's phone?

At this point they went back to their discussion amongst themselves.

 No.248072

>>248055

Just think about it for a monent, it is not that strange. After god’s death it was pretty obvious that morality as a last barrier slowly will fade away. Few masculine versions of post humans had failed to survive. Those are things like communist human and white genetecly “ clear” nazi . China is trying to take another shot on making those, but there are some problems on the way. Now, after male have failed postmodern, it is time for female and deviants to solve the puzzle. That is why everything in the field is blooming . Truly there was no better time for wired porn, feminists are ruining most epic franchises, body alteration tech rapidly evolves and so on. The time requires transmutations even the ugly ones. No one can tell for sure if those will fail or no, but I have a feeling this time it will be more successful, due to us having better technology and people crossing even more borders. Something had to stick around.

 No.248075

>>248072
>we're gonna transcend humanity
Let's pretend that's gonna happen.
To what end? And for how many?

 No.248088

>>248075
It is hard to say. The way I see it as for right now though is something like that - major countries cannot afford to fight each other rather than in a cold war due to nuclear weapon. We do have a weapon which is similar to nuces in hybrid war condition, and that is AI. So China and US cannot stop developing it, because if you stop you lose. At some point AI will get so good, it would take over the power without us even realizing it at first. At this point it would literally know better. Logically there will be no point to decide anything by yourself anymore. AI will tell you exactly what to do, and it would be correct 99% of the time. So most likely those human activities which still would be around will be highly specialized, kind of caste system but with specific genes and mods for each one. That is where all the tolerance BS comes handy, because you will have to deal with creatures who are not the same species anymore. It also have to be more socialist, because individualism will be replaced with common good, which AI knows exactly what it is. Something like that.

 No.248089

>>248072
>>248088
>>248045
lol, this is "the singularity" type shit that 00s nerds used to gush over. Nerd heaven.

It's not happening.

 No.248090

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>>248045

Someone here seems to know at all the general conspiracy themes around (((some people out there))) and their book of protocols.

 No.248091

>>248075
In this Kali Yuga, degeneracy will surprise such type of optimistic imprudent peers.

 No.248092

>>248089
>>248091
I hardly can see how ant-like society is "haven" and optimistic, but okay, if you say so..

 No.248094

>>248090
>(((them)))
Myopic view of the capitalist system by ascribing it to one peoples (though they do assert a large influence).

 No.248095

>>248045
I think that this is a good thing

 No.248096

>>248045
>>248072
>>248088
Very interesting topic of discussion, I agree with what you said; that Human kind will give birth to some kind of post human life. I also agree with the statement that this will come as an evolution of current 'socially left' politics. As for AI, it already controls people's lives. I was walking to university, and a man was listening to the same electronic dance music as I was. We, two totally unconnected people, probably found this music at the same time, as a result of a youtube algorithm. A centralized AI already controls an intimate part of human self expression.

I do not agree with the rest of your statements, from global warming to AI taking over all facets of life and the supposed obsolescence of humanity. Really if we look at what we know, we'll find out that it's nothing. There's no workable knowledge about anything from the capability of AI to decide something like military escalation. We don't know if genetically engineered humans (which do not yet exist) will be better or worse at specific tasks. Will these things happen? Probably yes, but it's not a guarantee.

The future will be built by people with plans, and people who are willing to make personal sacrifices. The passionate scientist working in a lab, the start up businessman who takes total personal risk. These are the kind of people who will play the flute that everyone else dances too. This is the age of science, and the archetype of the scientist is the magician. This is the age of magic, and it will be decided by wizards.

 No.248098

>>248094
Anti-semitism is anti-capitalism for idiots.

 No.248100

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>>248099
Rent free

 No.248101

>>248096
Limits of Growth.

 No.248103

>>248096
science was already debunked as fake

 No.248104

>>248098
>>248100
Control yourself you moron, this isn't reddit. If he thinks that (((they))) are solely responsible, let him, he isn't here for a discussion.

 No.248114

>>248101
>>248103
I realize this is /dep/, not the crown jewel of wizchan, but are the nonsense half-sentence replies really necessary?

 No.248117

>>248114
they add nothing of value but seem to make me laugh because so asinine. most dep posters dont have the energy to rewrite the same idea he has written many times over the year.
>>248103
Biting. do you mean as it is debunked as being useless for understanding the world?

 No.248120

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>>248114
I think it's supposed to be Limits to Growth.

 No.248124

>>248120
so what, just referencing the mere idea of a mathematical model, without doing any math or anything else is an argument?

 No.248126

>>248124
…are you upset because someone replied with brevity?

 No.248130

>>248126
Brevity is not the right word. I'd use the word masturbatory. Really disingenuous post man, why even bother making it here?
"here's an idea that could be contradictory to yours, am I going to elaborate on this? lol why? … Internet Arguments Won: IV"

 No.248133

>>248130
You want me, a non-scientist, to explain the complex maths behind Limits to Growth which is just the idea that on a finite planet there is finite growth but we need to accept that AI will become so advanced that it will take over and body modification will become so advanced that we'll transcend humanity without any proof?

It wasn't even my post to begin with.

 No.248137

>>248130
Aren't you doing what you're criticizing right now?

 No.248149

>>248133
This is comparing apples to organges. A system of equations would be easy but tedious to set up. Thinking about the future, what will happen, is and always was pure speculation: proof or any kind of rigor is not even possible here.

I write something our, and the other guy literally says "equation". Not an actual equation, not the logic behind a hypothetical equation, just "equation"
>>248137
No, I view this as a genuine post complaining about disingenuous posts. I am open to changing my view so tell me if you think that I am the disingenuous one here.

 No.248201

>>248029
I need to know if trannys are becoming acceptable to "non-degenerates", as in NOT woke hipsters or NOT terminally-online people.

Are there meatheads in gym locker rooms or at wageslave workplaces admitting that they'd bang a tranny?

 No.248202

>>248149
You're really trying to have your cake and eat it.

Limits to Growth isn't just "equation", it's a prediction using mathematical models about what could happen with exponential economic and population growth with a finite supply of resources. Civilisation could collapse before any profound advancement in AI is possible.

>Thinking about the future, what will happen, is and always was pure speculation: proof or any kind of rigor is not even possible here.

>pure speculation
Ignoring that we can make decent predictions on based existing data, ignoring that Limits to Growth IS essentially thinking about and predicting the possible future, we're supposed to take your random ass musings pulled straight out your ass as a possible future based on…?

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 No.248257

>>248202
The thing with Limits To Growth, is the talk about overpopulation. It kinda has a eugenics edge to it.

You can't have a continously growing population with finite resources sure but when someone like our Overlord Bill Gates decides to implement some kind of population control it's going to *slightly* unfair and inefficient because it's going to be something like
>there too many niggers on the planet
instead of all the owners of factories pumping out useless shit to sell and all the "eco" celebs flying all over world to say the least.

 No.248281

>>248257
I always wonder if the ultra-rich live on the same planet we live since they seem hell-bent on ruining it.

I mean, how long can you stay in a bunker waiting for shit to die down topside?

 No.248284

>>248202
Just mentioning the fact that malthusian equations exist doesn't make an argument. I need to see a model or at least some kind of rationalization behind a potential model. BTW I never said I presented a factual and definite view of things, it's my opinion, my own predictions of the future that I presented, in responce to this guy's >>248045 predictions about the future

 No.248313

>>247499
>everyone and their mother have an onlyfans account and subbing to one is no longer the saddest thing ever

I remember just 15-20 years ago talking to people on the internet about videogames was considered sad. And now….

 No.248320

>>248313
No people still call you a crab for doing that now. Onlyfans gets a pass because ???

 No.248364

>>248320
Says who? People talk about videogames all over social media these days without batting an eyelid. Whether they're actually discussing them or "discussing" them is a different question.

 No.248390

>>247704
>now people are comparing world events to Avengers.
I've been wondering about this a lot and maybe it's just a collective failure to get to grips with a terrible future?

 No.248391

>>247498
'first time in recorded history' isn't really that big of a deal. Recorded history isn't that long on a geological scale. Hell, it isn't even that long on the scale of humanity.

 No.248412

>>248391
What has to happen before you consider something to be a bad sign of things to come?

 No.248457

>>247501
i thought they’re more absurdist i don’t think they like irony that much.

 No.248458

>>247700
lovely post

 No.248487


>>247700

You sell your English skills short, that was one of those bursts of randomness I guess. Beautiful post.

 No.248488

>>248457
>absurdist
Their humor is too formulaic for it to be "absurd" or "random", despite how much they pride themselves on that. But high school normalfags all have bland senses of humor, so it's nothing new

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 No.248764

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>>248391
>>248390
>"I just don't think about it"

>>248488
>Their humor is too formulaic for it to be "absurd" or "random", despite how much they pride themselves on that
It's because they don't understand why a certain type of irony/"meta-ness" was popular on the internet in the 00s, all they know it was popular (on the internet, and I don't think normalfags these days, and especially Gen Zoomer, are able to differentiate what was popular on the internet and what was popular IRL because those things are basically the same now) and just ape it without understanding any of the nuances.



I'm going to make an absolutely ludicrous comparison but this clip where Nigel talks about collecting works of art for the "Ark of the Arts" it's obvious that they're being collected purely for the supposed prestige rather than because they are meaningful pieces of art, like Picasso's Guernica, despite being painting of violence in the streets of Spain during a turbulent time, it's now a decorative piece hanging behind Nigel while he peacefully eats his meal while "Guernica" is literally playing out elsewhere in the city.

It reminds me of "geek" youtubers/influencers having anime figurines, comic book posters and other geek memorabilia in the background of their videos.

Or when a factory-sealed, professionally graded "vintage" videogame cartridge goes for half a million.

 No.248791

>>248764
>Alex. Alex. ALEX!

Little shit even has neck tattoos like zoomers have today.


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