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Has anyone else gone long periods on inadequate sleep? I'd imagine this board is full of insomniac wizzes. My story:
>November 2019
>do Nofap for fun
>get job
>have to get up at 5:30
>go to bed at 11
>almost fall asleep standing up at work several times
>job finally moves closer as planned
>wake up at 6 now
>go to bed at 1130
>turns into midnight
>hate job more and more every day
>realize it's over
>strat drinking coffee to stop falling asleep at work
>around June 2020 I am hiking in woods when I realize that I don't feel real
>feel like I am watching movie
>I've been sleeping 5-1/2 hours a night for around 5 or 6 months now
>keep doing it anyway
>dissociate at work, floursecent lights and hissing air in manufacturing shithole doesn't help
>balls and dick shrink
>creative drive drains away
>notebook I wrote ideas in stops filling up
>no longer interested in many things
>literally feel like I'm watching a movie
>this continues
>no longer feel any connection to nature
>barely enjoy music anymore
>literally feels like my soul is dead
Is there any coming back or is the damage permanent? I hate my life hate my job hate my entire existence. Thinking of going NEET once my car dies. I'm 27 though so I'm sure my parents will kick me out soon. I hate my schedule. Cannot believe when it is 11pm and I need to go to bed in an hour.

What are your experiences with this?


>around June 2020 I am hiking in woods when I realize that I don't feel real
>literally feel like I'm watching a movie

This is how I go through most of my days. Life is hell.I think I will just keep on doing this until one day I find myself waking up in the hospital after I collapse. I can sleep okay but every morning I wake up I feel like I my soul is dead and this feeling doesn't go away for most of the day.


No way getting 5 hours of sleep is causing that. From the fact that your balls shrank and you're having mental changes, you probably got covid-19 at some point and it is fucking with you. Look into all the issues people with covid come down with afterwards, it sounds exactly like you.


Isn't 5 hours of sleep extremely low? Especially for 5 nights a week. Then I sleep 9 hours on weekends most of the time. Even sk that's around 12 hours a week of "sleep debt" times around 100 weeks I've been working (getting there) that's around 1200 hours. I have this bizarre pseudoscientific theory of me passing through different layers of consciousness as I continue this garbage longer and longer. But perhaps not. Maybe I did get it and it fucked my brain. I don't know how I'd even know. I got both shots and the 2nd one gave me a 103 fever. Maybe i reacted stronger cause I'd already had it? I never got sick though. Also I feel tightness in my perineum sometimes. Wonder if I get myself jerking. Maybe I have cancer. I remember hoping I'd get it so I could quit my job and drain my savings then die. Maybe my prayers were answered.


>creative drive drains away
>no longer feel any connection to nature
>barely enjoy music anymore
>literally feels like my soul is dead

🎵I've turned in to a normie🎵
I can't even recall my age
I can hardly even sleep at night
🎵I've turned into a normie todaaaaayyy🎵

Not trying to deny your wizardry here but your brain is beginning to go survival mode, IE you are becoming numb to pain and grief like an NPC. As a trade-off you also begin losing your ability to be entertained. Cortisol has eaten away at your reward centers so that you don't strive to be in a better place, as the concept of a "better" begins to blur away. Low sleep is indeed a leading cause of producing the stress hormones that eat away at your emotions, your drives, your purpose, and finally your humanity.

Get some sleep, chug ZZZquil if you must. You will never regret going to bed early when you wake up feeling refreshed the next morning. Avoid caffeine at all costs, get your energy from vitamin B12 instead. Do some light lifting or jogging to get blood flowing and encourage testosterone production. The chemicals your brain is using to change you can be countered with a disciplined approach to living healthy. You need to schedule 8 hours of sleep nightly minimum and then change your daily routines around that. Whatever you're doing on the computer, watching on TV, or going IRL can wait. It's not going anywhere. Skip whatever it is you're doing outside of work that's cutting in to your sleepy time and save it for when you have a day off work. You want sleep, you need sleep, so reward yourself with sleep. If you're not capable of getting a full night's sleep due to forces beyond your control (commute, family, neighbors) then plan to move out and/or change jobs to one that will permit you to rest. As you work to save up for this move, imagine how great it will be to finally be somewhere or doing something that will permit you to get the rest you need, and keep seeing that as a reminder for why you must persevere.

>your balls shrank and you're having mental changes, you probably got covid-19 at some point and it is fucking with you.
Peek cringe Karen posting. Covid is literally just the flu. It doesn't have any side effects besides those given by influenza. Go to the Covid thread to spout your absurd beliefs, and do use all a favor and post even one official claiming that Covid-19 can shrink your brain and testicles. OP's stressful job and lack of sleep are the two biggest and most documented causes for generation of the hormones which are responsible for restricting testosterone production. This is what's shrinking his wand, orbs, and making him feel detached from himself while also prohibiting from feeling good emotions when doing what he knows he enjoys. Covid-19 my ass. You probably got the Vaccine and it made you DUMBTARDED, which actually IS a side effect of it.


I can't stand how fast time seems to move, I know I need to break the habit. I've been at this for 2 years now. I could probably get away with a few months of NEETing then finding a better scheduled job. But I don't know how long it'd take me to recover. Sure hope it isn't the same 2 years I spent fucking myself up.


Since 2015


How has it changed you?


>>around June 2020 I am hiking in woods when I realize that I don't feel real
Isn't that derealization or depersonalization? I've experienced the latter during a period of heavy stress.


Balls and dick shrink from lack of sleep? Wut? This has to be a joke


Yeah it's one of those two. I feel like I am in both. But apparently I can't even handle the stress of a bitch tier wagecuck job. Not to degrade hikkimori, because I was, but I saw it as a choice, not a weakness. So it has to be my fucked up sleep but I'm so deep into it I feel like the only way out is to shock my system by quitting my job. Even then I feel I may be too far gone. I often lose track of what I'm thinking and I feel like mental math is harder now. Though I've learned to stop triple checking m my answers so I found I can actually do it insanely fast. I used to be able to multiply two 2digit numbers in my head,now it's harder. I don't know what is done to cure depersonalization or derealization. I just know it's fucking me up. I can't take how fast time goes now. I can't believe it's already Wednesday it feels like the week just started. Holy shit this is the rest of my life. And I have horrible fucked up thoughts too, intrusive ones, probably a result of being a toxic cunt online. I keep having intrusive violent thoughts about my cat, who I love as much as almsot anything, just constant thoughts of terrible things happening to him, like I'm bored and that's the only thing my mind can come up with when I spend time with him. I see him playfully roll in front of me and my mind goes "lol what if I stepped on you right now you little faggot" which I would never do in a million years but there you go. I'm not violent I just have these intrusive thoughts and I wish theyd go away.


Look, all I will say is, I did nofap November 2019 and December 1st I went to fap and busted after twenty seconds. Then I kept fapping and came again fifteen minutes later. This was after my 3rd day of full-time work. In September 2020, I nofapped. October 1st I jerked off and it took me 20 minutes to cum. Barely had any libido at all. Did it this year and same thing. Took no discipline at all because I barely have the urge anymore. Not that it matters cause I'll never fuck succubi but it's still upsetting.


No, it's pretty normal. 6 is the norm for adults so it's only a little less. Only teenagers sleep 8 or more hours. You change after you hit your early 20's so you don't need as much sleep.


this is garbage, I'm 26 and I sleep 9-10 hours a night


nofap does make your dick shrink. The same is observed for heroin abusers. Normies doing nofap dont notice because they have sex, it is a trick against virgins.
(it has nothing to do with sleep deprivation)


I tried changing jobs to see if anything changed with something like this, and when within a few months it was the same I just bit the bullet and quit. I spent 2-3 months just watching TV and sleeping excessively, and over time my mental function recovered completely and I started itching to work on side projects and exercise.
I don’t know that I can recommend it, as now I know that waging kills my soul and brain entirely but I will most likely run out of money eventually and have to go back. Right now I can’t shake the thought that I’d rather die.
I’m just letting you know that the brain effects are basically wagie stress and sleep deprivation, and will go away if you ever escape.


Even taking you at face value, COVID is at least a much stronger flu, and the normal flu is known to trigger autoimmune diseases sometimes, which is what basically all non-malingering “long COVID” cases are.


How is every adult not talking about how fucked they are? How do they still have libido from sleeping that little?

But I've only done nofap 3x in my life. Shouldn't I recover from it if that were the case?


Alright. I have quite a bit saved and live with parents so I might try to get fired soon. Unfortunately the job market is great right now so now is a terrible time to go NEET. I'll try to find a part-time job instead. I'd work part-time forever and I know of people who live from it independently, if it weren't for my parents freaking out I don't have kike health insurance then I'd just quit today.


Masturbate without porn. Nofap is stupid just avoid porn.


What’s the point?


it strengthens your imagination


I sleep 5-6 hours every night for atleast like 10 years now, I also did like 4 hours per night for half a year, during that time I slept for like 12 hours on the weekends tho
I would never even get the idea that my sleep is inadequate, I thought 6 hours is enough and 8 is recommended.


>go to sleep 1300
>sleep for 8 hours
>gives me an hour and a half to get ready for work
>get to work 15 minutes early every day
>work graveyard shift at fancy hotel for 8 hours
>nobody around
>just working through the night
>paperwork and cash balancing
>AM shift relieves me at 0630
>go home, fuck around on my computer or do other stuff around the house until 1300
>maybe go shopping once a week
>repeat cycle


by the way, i don't need 1.5 hours to get to work on time, it only takes me 5min to drive there. i just get up early with enough time to shower, iron clothes, have a coffee, etc with plenty of time to spare.


You don't feel your mental function is absolutely fucked because of it?
Maybe I'm just a loser who needs more sleep.


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oh cool, schizo ramblings from an unsourced social studies paper.


this was me in 2020 when i slept roughly 4-5 hours a night for 9 months
i quit and immediately slept more and felt better but now im having sleep problems again despite not working, and now i feel unreal everyday like i can't focus on anything and like im in a fog


So it might be that the damage is permanent?
I've know for years I'm rotting every day but to really be confronted with it sucks. I have mild tinnitus too now from my job even though it isn't that loud, I wear earplugs now but knowing that's gonna be there FOREVER sucks even though it isn't that bad.


There is also a significant overlap in cuckolding and transsexualism they both go together


No, not really. Maybe its because Im used to it, maybe because I dont have much to compare it to, but I feel fine. 4 hours per night definitely made me feel like shit tho.


I have headaches now and I fall asleep often when I don't want to. My dad meanwhile has been going to bed at midnight and getting up at like 6:30 or 7:00 a.m. for years now and he still has the energy and motivation to go somewhere every day off he has. I get up and I am so dead I don't want to do anything. He drags me hiking with him which I like but when I get there I realize how dissociated I feel like I'm not really there. I wonder if I have brain damage from lead exposure at work but I'm scared to pay for a lead test.


in 2020 got some trouble with niggers trying to steal my house after burning an entiere house of my grandma so i didnt sleep in 30 days paranoia and delirum kicks in but handled. it fells really bad desu this last 5 years has been hell… its imposible to get a good nigth of sleep without benzos, some how when i was younguer used to do a shit ton of coke acid stimulants weed benzos and a lot of alcohol daily, now still using but im broke literally 0$ so in this hole mess i allready fucked my sleep schedule and probably fried my brain


i think so
i've also talked to someone on facebook who slept 3-4 hours a night back when he was still in high school and now he sleeps more but sometimes he also feels this way again


What youre describing sounds way to bad to come from you sleeping 6 hours per night, which is far from sleep deprivation. I would try to get that test done if it doesnt cost a fortune if I were you.


Just to add something to that:
of course it could be that you just need more sleep personally, just try that first of course. Force yourself to sleep like 8 hours every night for a week and see if your problems go away, I'd say if you cant sleep then youre either not really tired or you could try sleeping pills but I dont really trust those so thats up to you. The test still sounds like a good idea if nothing helps.


Do things for a good movie…you can make better your stupid irreality


So is there any cure for it? I couldn't find anything online. I first felt a bit of dissociation age 13 when I started eating gluten again after my mom made me not eat it for 7 years.

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