Hmm. I don't mean self-improvement necessarily to indicate gaining talent in something. I read a lot, watch a lot of movies, TV shows, anime, gameplays, etc.
The only thing society would consider me talented in would be literature or philosophy at most. When I talk about self-improvement I usually mean that if you are depressed you can learn to enjoy stuff again, like I did.>>258503
It's not cheap peptalk to talk some sense into delusional people. Fatalism and defeatism are the trendy thoughts here but who said they are true?>>258504
Oh, I just love delusional sour grapes people like you. I have so much to say to you but I will try to keep it short.
Effort doesn't always get rewarded, I didn't say anything like that? But putting effort into things is required in 99% of things. If you want some kind of success or victory then yes, you should work for it, that is the nature of the world. The wolf goes hunting and sees a rabbit. The wolf couldn't catch anything this week, I suppose it should just give up and die if we go by your retarded logic. Or another example, someone tries to beat you up and he already beat you several times before, guess you shouldn't even try to defend yourself, huh?
If every human thought like you then we would still be living in caves, that's the truth. I don't know what kind of alternate dimension you live in but here, in the real world, people have to do shit in order to get by usually. If you don't even try then you are working against yourself ultimately. To win the lottery you have to play the damn thing. To get a job you have to go out and look for one. You understand what I am saying, right? You can't sit around and wait for nature/other humans/God to save you or to give you things always. If you want something then fight for it. Again, I feel like I am talking with kids, because this is so basic and elemental stuff. You desire something? Then you should try to get it, not be angry in yourself at the whole universe because said thing isn't given to you. I am sure it is way easier to post on /dep/ about how shit everything is but it is useless. Instead of whining you could learn what you are interested in, you could start working out if that's what you want or you could try enjoying yourself numerous other ways.
>People give up precisely because their effort isn't rewarded in any way
Or because they are weak, impatient and want everything instantly? "Ohh I'm not a pro scientist in a few days, fuck this why bother?!"
>Pain and suffering are nature's way of saying you're doing something wrong and should stop.
Eh, no. It usually means you should try some other way to get what you want or try harder. Suffering is a very strong motivational source.
>Following the path of least resistance is how you get through life happy
That isn't happiness, that is coping literally. Man's happiness lies in fighting, overcoming himself and obstacles, solving problems, striving for more. What you advocate for only leads to depression and defeatism.
I'm sorry wiz but life isn't an eternal Sabbath of doing nothing, of passivity and resignation. It is exactly about motion and struggle. You are looking for excuses why you shouldn't even try anything. Like this>The people that continually repeat this bullshit either haven't ever seriously put any effort into anything themselves or haven't faced true failure.
I honestly can't stop giggling after reading this, you seriously believe this? You are delusional, wiz. Oh of course we don't know what "true failure" is and we never put any effort into anything! Hahaha. But you man, you surely know what true failure is and what is it like to put effort into things! It's the same shit when someone here tells others that they don't know what "true depression" is. Little special snowflake spoiled baby logic, only you know what suffering is, we or anyone successful/anyone who enjoys life can't know that, nope.
When I or others tell you to put effort into things and that without effort you won't get anywhere we say this because we assume you possess the maturity, rationality and self-knowledge to know what you want and what you can achieve between the bounds of reality. Like, you could try to learn to fly on your own but you will never be able to do it, no matter how much time and effort you put into it. (Obviously?) Or you could try to be president of your country, which is possible and realistic to some extent. Or you could just learn what you like or enjoy things that are within your graps, which is 100% realistic. There are different levels for how possible something is, of course. But without effort you will get nowhere, this is common sense, again I don't know why some people here need to be reminded of this simple truth.