Suffering from low intelligence may be one of the worst fates one can have. It’s just a curse. There is no cope left for me. I am so terribly bad at everything I attempt to cope with, that I’ve always given up out of genuine frustration. I’ve never been good at anything, not even average. Without any exception I am the complete bottom of the barrel. Be it video games, writing little stories or something else. I have great difficulties grasping everyday concepts and ideas, which a normal adult man is supposed to understand. There is nothing I can do to stop thinking about it at least temporarily, as I notice this problem or condition (however you want to call it) in literally everything I do. The other day someone tried to explain a game to me, yet I struggled heavily understanding it and the supposed fun become slowly torture until I ran away out of my room and cried. This pattern repeats very often, dare I say always.
I blame inferior genetics and to some degree environmental factors as well to have caused this. In the end I don’t know really. The question is irrelevant anyways, as there can not be done anything about my genetics nor the environment, in which I grew up in first place.
I was greatly overestimated my whole life. For some reason people had unbelievably high expectation which just were not in touch with reality at all. School was hard in particular due to that. The first few years I could get away with memorizing the stuff I was supposed to know without really understanding it or at least understanding it later in the process, but my memory got worse and worse over time and the subject matter only more difficult, which lead in the end me becoming NEET. There I no work I am useful for. Even the easiest and least complex jobs out there are too much for me, at least long term. Neither stress nor other people I can deal with. Hence I am more or less doomed to NEETdom and LDARing.
Other than that, I’ve noticed a rapid decline in my cognitive ability in the past years. Most probably my mental illness contributes to this the most, even though it’s getting actively treated with meds.
Not only my memory and my concentration is getting worse, but my logical reason and smaller things one might not think of at the first glance like my reaction speed.
(In particular when dealing with a conversation with someone else, I most of the time happen to have a noticeable latency between the moment I get talked to and the second I answer. )
This is just a terrifying process to watch my slowly decaying brain worsening with every day.
Maybe some wizards can relate? What’s your experience with cognitive impairment and similar issues?
I don't have such problems, but I wonder how much of them is emotional and how much is actually some cognitive impairment. I don't know you so I can't make that judgement. But I just wonder, e.g. you say it's hard for you to understand when someone explains something to you. It's always been like that for me too, but it was just my anxiety from dealing with people. I was able to understand much better by myself.
Can you give some more examples what you're struggling with understanding what a normal adult would be a ble to?
When you're stressed it's really hard to think of course, as the blood is pumped to muscles to run away and not to brain to think.
This is going to sound hilarious to you, but intellect in itself is a material object. You are the subject of what you are comprised of whether or not you are in your body or not. It may be that you're just not interested in playing the illusory game as much as the next guy, because intellect is pretty much the exact opposite of insight. So we require moderation.
You and me are really same, I’m the guy who failed in 7th grade math and after that I couldn’t comprehend any mathematics beyond that level , it was like alien hieroglyphs to me , I couldn’t understand no matter how much I tried and still there will be scum who will says bruh you just didn’t tried enough.
If you’re low intelligent you will not achieve anything and as the statistics says low intelligence corraletes with low income so your life will sucks.I envied other kids in school who were succesful while I was in designated retard class in highschool(yes literally) and after graduation I’m just a useless neet who sits on home all day with no hope and no future.
a lot of low iq people do fine in life like reproduce and have jobs, they also get to remain ignorant of their faults and not have self-awareness so it's not so bad OP
im high iq but pretty much in the same boat
>>259931>You are the subject of what you are comprised of whether or not you are in your body or not.
I have no idea what this means and I don't know if having more intelligence would help.
>intellect is pretty much the exact opposite of insight. So we require moderation.
Yeah, I think I can kinda see that. True insight is direct perception into that which doesn't even need to be intellectualized and which can only be obscured or distorted by intellectually constructing castles in the sky, which are more sophisticated the more intellectually gifted one is, as well as more obscuring of the fundamental insight.
>So we require moderation.
Yes, because that doesn't mean intellect is bad in itself, just that it shouldn't stray away from insight, otherwise it's fundamentally invalid no matter how impressive and sophisticated the architectonic conceptual apparatuses it constructs.>>259928
Anyway, OP, "the emptier your head is, the more you can fill it with imagination". I recommend turning your back on the 3d world, the demiurge's prison world, and instead dedicating mainly to watching lots of anime and reading lots of manga and VNs that aren't cerebral or complex in anyway, like iyashikei and loli eroge. That's what I do. I've happily given myself completely to hikki NEETdom for the rest of my life, and I have no regrets (except for all the stupid shit I did as a result of caring too much about the 3d and about finding for myself a place in it).
Bro, you didn't try hard enough. Seriously. :)>>259928
True retards can't even construct walls of text like you do. You are far from that. You have low self-confidence and inferiority complex probably. Add to that the fact you are way too sensitive.>The other day someone tried to explain a game to me, yet I struggled heavily understanding it and the supposed fun become slowly torture until I ran away out of my room and cried
It is clear it is a complex in your case we are talking about. It is okay to not understand everything instantly or to be stupid in certain things. You have your own merits, even if you deny it.
Being able to hold jobs doesn't have anything to do with how smart or capable someone is, to tell the truth for most jobs you have to be a braindead fool because that helps you more than being a genuinely smart individual.
You want to be perfect always, do you have some kind of autism or aspergers perhaps? Your behavior is similar to theirs. That doesn't mean you are stupid at all. Or maybe you just want to please everyone always simply…I don't know. But it is an emotional thing in your case I am sure.
Whatever, bottom line is you don't know the half of it, how retarded people are out there. Seriously, you are a sophisticated intellectual compared to the average man.>>259935>I recommend turning your back on the 3d world, the demiurge's prison world, and instead dedicating mainly to watching lots of anime and reading lots of manga and VNs that aren't cerebral or complex in anyway, like iyashikei and loli eroge.
Yep, beware OP. This is the sure path toward becoming actually retarded.
One of my parents is low IQ. They never finished grade school education. The other is about community college level achievement. So basically about the average enough person. I am some where in between. I have my moments of absolute goddamn what fuck just like the brainlet parent.
I've tried really hard to become brain gooder through my life. The others are right. It's possible to learn things. I'm not bullshitting saying you can turn into genius. Some things I just can't figure. Oh well.
I know getting angry or frustrated is a common symptom of the low IQ. That can exacerbate the complex. It becomes a snowball effect. I find it helps to subdue the brainlet rage.
I just figure out what I can figure out and that's it.
There has to be some tangible neural deficiencies. Intellect has to be a function brain structure after all. Not everyone has the exact same physical body efficiency. Like some people have quirks that make their bodies naturally good for swimming. The average person has an average brain structure that operates at the "normal" level.
People throughout my life have literally told me I seem rather "dull" or "dim". "Boring" is another one. Like there's nothing going on up stairs. I think because I am slow to process things. Interactions are therefore a bit stilted. So people become alerted something is off really easily.
Things I hate about it is growing up it was at times where I was in reverse parenting situations. When a parent doesn't know how to parent normally then kids try to hide that like it's a deathly secret. Because it is. Other kids find out and make your life hell.
When other people find out you're a dumbass. Boy it's a fucking feeding frenzy. They will take advantage of you any which way they can. The in-adversarial person sees you as sub-human unworthy of the time of day in their life. People want to experience the colorful parts of life. Not the boring uninteresting. What a lonely paranoia filled god damn way to live. The persistent state of heightened alertness is necessary to survival.
I have dropped acquaintances over time because they were using me in one way or another. Either for material reasons and/or for emotional doormat reasons. People I thought are friends aren't friends but I had never known what real friends are like. I let myself in abusive friendships so I might experience what friendship is like. I decided it wasn't worth the pain anymore. Only one person I drifted apart from was a nice person but I was too insecure to be around them anymore. It was from them that I became sure that I had never had true friendship before.
Oh and another thing. Being self aware of all this. Yeah that sucks. Another thing that sucks is when people do it to your face. There's the look of knowing unspoken exchange between two or more people in your presence. When they're exchanging looks at each other like can you believe this literal fool. What I am I a petting zoo exhibit. That's how they are treating me. I fucking hate when people do that. Such is suffering the life of solitude.
because you're all post excess male crysis births, you were born into their established turf. there is no escape or need for you and me, because we make no social contributions. what worries me is that the excess will threat others in the same way. these conditions will only get more extreme the longer you are around crabs, do you understand wizzos?
Can relate OP.
My memory is so bad that I can only remember a few jumbled fragments of my past. What I do remember is that I had to put in hours or constant study to just pass school (and I was doing easy classes like basic maths too).
I have always been extremely forgetful and easily confused (e.g. confusing my left hand with my right hand, thinking of one word and another coming out of my mouth, forgetting how to do simple things like doing laundry and paying the bills, forgetting birthdays/important events and so on). This has isolated me from others as they think I just don't care about them.
I am constantly trying to engage with the world around me through attempts at learning concepts, conversation and critical thinking. Yet despite my high interest and motivation at such endeavors nothing ever improves and the void in my head persists.
In my case, it might be aging, depression, a chemical imbalance, who knows? All I can do is stumble blindly and clumsily through life not being aware of 99.9% of anything that is happening around me.
I should say to you all there are many reasons for possible cognitive impairment. For example:
- chronic insomnia
- various learning disorders (like adhd)
- b12 deficiency
I think given the board you're we're on… depression isn't an unreasonable hypothesis. ADHD is also very common, too. I'd honestly encourage you to speak to a doctor about your symptoms. You may have more than one cause and if its medical it would probably take a long time to get treated. But well worth it in the end, tbh.
You’re a lying scum
I do lie often but not in this case. Which part you disagree with?
Lie of you didn’t try enough for mathematics
That was supposed to be ironic…
>>259936>True retards can't even construct walls of text like you do. You are far from that.
This is not true.
That's right. There's plenty of counterexamples to that on this site.
Retards are smarter than us.
You only say that because you never encounter people who are actually retarded. It is true, stupid people can barely formulate their thoughts and feelings. Did you ever talk with a genuine simpleton in your life?>>260038
The average wizchan user is smarter than your average normal.
>>260061> You only say that because you never encounter people who are actually retarded. It is true, stupid people can barely formulate their thoughts and feelings. Did you ever talk with a genuine simpleton in your life?
I am actually stupid and slow in general, I can totally relate to OP.
idk what im doing
I knew a lot of diagnosed retards as a kid who went to have jobs, families and more fulfilling lives than the users here
Go to a majority black apartment complex or neighborhood and you will see that your intelligence is probably above the mean.
Never underestimate how beastly these low life scum are. They're literally animals in human form. Go into their apartment complexes, witness the heaps of trash everywhere, the condition that they live in, the loud music they blast 24/7, their pure animalistic behavior.
You will be afraid for your life, you will get PTSD from just having to witness their absolute filth and baboonery. You will realize you're the creme of the crop and you just have to fake it till you make it.
i envy you that you manage write all of this. i can’t write anything long or meaningful. im stupid.
This is true, but not just with blacks, you can go find these places in the area of every races. OP is retarded for thinking that he is retarded.
I suspect that I also have a low IQ. If not, then it's definitely someone on the line of Inattentive ADHD along with dyscalculia. Either way this society sees me as a worthless sub-human due to my comeplete incompetence and retardation, people will always look down on me with complete disdain and ridcule me 24/7 so they can feel better about their shitty mediocre normalfag lives. To them I'm a metaphorical cog that was designed to function in some soul-crushing job to then be immediately discarded. I'll also never be able to become or do anything of interest in life. It is what it is I guess but at this point I'm just thinking of living off the grid in a mongolian yurt somewhere in the woods. At least maybe in nature I'll be able to find peace and solitude with the horrible hand I was delt with in life.
>>260543>If not, then it's definitely someone on the line of Inattentive ADHD along with dyscalculia.
I feel the same, also I'm pretty anxious due to my past failures, they'll forever weigh on me I think. I'm also sure I've done some sort of, possibly minimal but still evident damage to my brain from using antihistamines for sleep.
>>259935>I recommend turning your back on the 3d world, the demiurge's prison world, and instead dedicating mainly to watching lots of anime and reading lots of manga and VNs that aren't cerebral or complex in anyway, like iyashikei and loli eroge. That's what I do. I've happily given myself completely to hikki NEETdom for the rest of my life, and I have no regrets (except for all the stupid shit I did as a result of caring too much about the 3d and about finding for myself a place in it).
Now see, this is retarded. Can you stop fucking recruiting to some 2D cult across threads? You're fucking ridiculous.
I can see from your sudden replies to older posts that you're some newfag tourist. What site did you come from?
I think you should fuck off and stop trying to appeal to culture instead of addressing the point of what I'm saying. When you post something on the internet, there's not a cutoff date for criticism. What a completely ridiculous point on your behalf. Are you always this stupid?
Fear not OP, I've found a motherfucker who's more stupid and nonfunctional than you. There's this bottom of the barrel scum.
I don't see any point. I see someone during the days that the site suddenly seems to have gotten an influx of new outside-looking posts suddenly responding to boring and mundane older replies with more than expected disgust.
>Are you always this stupid?
Yes, that should be common knowledge here.
>more stupid and nonfunctional than you
I wouldn't dispute that. I know very well I'm pretty dumb.
I agree with you. Though i don't consider myself a high IQ person, instead like OP I'm quite bad at most of the thing i take up and leave after getting frustrated. But most people, i know for a fact are worse than me and OP and still lead quality lives. Maybe he's just born in the wrong country where intellectual competition is a thing. Coz in mine's even an illiterate is qualified to govern a country. Life's just shit in general.
It's all right. We feel u. Thnx for sharing your feelings with us.
>>260658>taking internet fights seriously
Follow your own advice, go back to reddit and never return.
No one asked you or cares what you think here, redditor.
>>259928> Most probably my mental illness contributes to this the most, even though it’s getting actively treated with meds.
Meds can worsen cognitive ability and do for a lot of people. Especially after long term use.
I'd tell most people to simply avoid them in the first place but once you're on them then I wouldn't suggest going off unless you're prepared for the possibility of catastrophic world-rending consequences of long term withdrawal and know how to handle microtapering and reinstating microdoses (none of which doctors will know anything about).
So let me guess, this motherfucker is you?
>>260658>When you post something on the internet, there's not a cutoff date for criticism.>on the internet
Referencing a ridiculous generality like 'the internet' (i.e. overwhelmingly comprised of normalfag sites) as part of their argument, on wizchan of all places.
Add the stereotypical vague defense of 'criticism' to finally leave no doubt. Textbook outsider.
You know what's fun is those silly gotcha tricks. Where they say most people won't fall for this bamboozle. or when they set people to task and it's supposed be easy enough for everyone to figure out and everyone gets to it and gets it done. Then I'm silently freaking out cause I'm in the small percentage who aren't get it at all.
I hope no-one notices
I hope no-one notices
I hope no-one notices
Please don't call on me
Please don't call on me
Please don't call on me
Fuck they called on me
Let's see what faggots I've triggered and work my way down, because this is too rich to pass up.>>260666
I come here intermittently, and have for well over half a decade. It's either here or bust. I know that's very hard for the invalid to believe, but that's what it is.>Yes, that should be common knowledge here.
It should be common knowledge that you're all stupid now? Damn.>>260689>I don't take internet fights seriously, but here's a declaration of me doing so with me engendering site war faggotry instead of addressing literally anything in a constructive fashion
Cute. Searching for your upvote in the form of dogpiling for validation by engendering muh website war bullshit? Not that Reddit's not for faggots, but "Go back to Reddit" isn't said by people who don't take internet fights seriously. Just pointing that out: you're not outside of this, you're not above it.>>260691>No you
Great, great comeback.>>260692
A-are you sincerely thinking that Wizchan is somehow not part of the internet, you dumb fuck? Like it doesn't function exactly like it does elsewhere? Like social input works differently here or something, or that content that reaches a certain point has a cutoff or something?
I'll give you all this:
You're in the right thread. Being stupid isn't a wizardly requirement, by the way.
Again, it cannot be overstated:
You are a legitimate idiot. There's nothing to 'defend' because what I've said is an inherent truth. There's no point in time where something, no matter when it was posted, is suddenly not worth going back to. That's not 'defense of criticism', that is literally truth. I didn't have to defend the criticism or the act of doing so because it's inherently a valid thing to do no matter what, what matters is how correct the criticism is (and it is quite correct). Instead, you and three other faggots thought you would come in swinging and made yourselves look more stupid in the process. All three of you please stop trying to hop on my cock; gay sex is still sex.
Genuinely disappointed in the amount of 'gotchas' and other dishonest bullshit you lot are pulling. I come to Wizardchan to get away from this ego-centered rubbish, and here you lot are doing it. On /dep/ of all places. Shame. Polite sage.
I can see a face in profile looking to the left in this picture.
sad how this thread got derail
Seeing as how you were offended enough to reply not once but twice! to my post, I'd say a nerve was hit? That wizchan is part of the whole known as the internet is irrelevant. Nothing more or less than that.
Your problem stems from your axiomatic belief that criticism on 'the internet' is "inherently a valid thing to do no matter what", which I disagree with both in spirit, and as a matter of practicality. In fact, the main value of this site is that it indeed tries very hard to prevent such a thing through its rule system, which is purposefully extremely restrictive even as compared to most other places.
Ignoring the issue of allowing the criticism of normalfags, just recall rule 4:>Do not disparage or show contempt for the celibate, NEET, or reclusive lifestyles.
Note that this applies regardless of whether someone is a wizard or wizard apprentice. That is, by posting on this site, and adhering to its rules, you already take for granted that criticism is NOT an inherently valid thing no matter what, and not just as a mere technicality either.
As for your criticism itself, can we return to what you actually said?>Now see, this is retarded. Can you stop fucking recruiting to some 2D cult across threads? You're fucking ridiculous.
This has no value. It amounts to an insult, and nothing more. Whereas the person you were replying to was in fact on topic, and far more constructive than your inflammatory post. So as far as the correctness of your criticism, I'm not seeing it. At the very most, you should have taken this stuff to meta. And yes, it is made worse by the fact that it is in response to such an old post. I imagine at some level you recognised this, which is why your original post was a sage in the first place. Actually, if one was to borrow your view, I could reference the fact that forums 'on the internet' have had so-called necromancy rules precisely to address this problem, for decades. But of course, we aren't concerned about what other sites are doing, are we?
Subsequent posts:>I think you should fuck off>Are you always this stupid?>I've found a motherfucker who's more stupid and nonfunctional than you>There's this bottom of the barrel scum
Low quality, inflammatory.
If you aren't an outsider, then you are doing a very bad job of not looking like one. This will be my last response.
I would not have thought of you as low IQ at all after reading your post. Well thought out, grammar is correct and I did not see any spelling mistakes. Could it possibly be more of a low self esteem issue or possibly a lack of effort put into tasks?
I got the life bullied out of me by society. OP is probably similar.
"Madness is to live trying similar things once and again expecting different results">hope can be a disease
By the way. Do you include cereals as a part of your diet? Some cases imrpove greatly when leaving it.>cognitive decline>read David Perlmutter. You could be one of his cases…
hi, been a while since you've posted
Yet it seems new people keeps coming with the same issues I intended to help this council against…
nobody wants your help. go back to endchan.
As I intended you might also find there all other authors about warp waning like the ones from "Grain Brain", "The Tao of Sex", "One meal one day" and many other weird specification rejected by common normomedicine.