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 No.260250

Since Im gonna die soon anyways, I dont care much about health issues. Ive been wanting to stay awake for at least 48 hours but I always pussy out and back out and dont do it.
ae there any trips,if meditating correctly etc,activated when seel deprived? will REM-rebound make me dream super trippy shit once i DO sleep?
will it merely make me feel miserable?(i read some studies saying SD causes mania tho)

 No.260251

Just learn to dream better. Keep a dream journal so you actually remember what happened. Learn wake-induced lucid dreaming. You can have dreams that feel like they take years.

 No.260255

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>>260250
i have a couple of experiences like this:
1. on entering sleep i got very intense visual hallucinations similar to shrooms, i dunno what caused it but my brain was obviously dumping some neurochemical for some reason
2. on entering sleep i got full body vibrations and saw an eyeless gnome with a pointy hat (apparently common during sleep paralysis) which i reflexively used my magician skills on

i think meditation may be a detriment, as you will be too serene and have mental clarity when you go to sleep. in both of the above cases i remember being mentally fucked before, either from prolonged concentration or exhaustion

 No.260256

>>260250
You already have extremely vivid dreams and dream "super trippy shit", but your brain is in the habit of forgetting it all almost completely as soon as you wake up, especially if you get up and go on with your day as soon as you wake up, with no thought to all the adventures you just had that night.

You're actually better off setting multiple alarms throughout the night at intervals of a couple hours to get up and remember what you were dreaming, and then going back to bed without letting your mind fall asleep (lucid dreaming people have an acronym for this).

The other wiz is right. There's no need of sleep deprivation, but of increasing dream recall. I recommend getting into the habit of spending some 10-15 minutes trying to recall what you dreamed as soon as you wake up, before even opening the eyes (that's a habit you can develop). It helps a ton to keep that intention in mind as you're falling asleep.

Embedded video is pretty much the most practical and to-the-point guide to having the OOBEs or lucid dreaming experiences (just a matter of perspective, imo) you seem to be after.

 No.260257

>>260250
You will experience something closer to delirium and it won't be as encompassing as a classically experienced psychedelic trip. Besides, your body will likely be extraordinarily fatigued, which would make any possible hallucinations unenjoyable. There's a chance you're going to feel paranoid as fuck, too. There was a high school student that did an experiment in the 60's who lasted something like two weeks without sleeping. He didn't have any major side effects other than cognitive impairments, behavioral abnormalities, and general fatigue. If you want to look at his case, his name is Randy Gardner.

 No.260259

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>>260255
>on entering sleep i got very intense visual hallucinations similar to shrooms
Yeah, hypnagogia, you can always get them as you fall asleep, it's just that people usually don't pay them much attention and so they don't get quite as vivid, if they even have them. Most people just fall asleep with their minds set purely on waking up, and not on what they'll dream about. I think it's the obsession with purely waking-life consciousness and the perspective that only those experiences count as "real" while all others are "fake" or "mere hallucinations", makes people think they only occasionally dream.

>on entering sleep

In my case, if I focus on the lights behind I eyelids as I fall asleep I tend to see somewhat grotesque faces, like of ugly witches, morphing around, and star to hear voices saying nonsensical things, as well as have nonsensical thoughts. Sometimes it happens that I hear a sudden voice yelling at me and I get startled and wake up. They say that's NREM stage 1, and that you're technically already asleep.

Lately I've had the idea of imagining my waifu right next to me as I'm falling asleep and it can become spookily vivid. I recommend it to other waifufags. At least, I recommend people to explore staring at the lights behind their eyelids as they fall asleep and seeing what trippy stuff shows up.

 No.260261

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>>260259
>In my case, if I focus on the lights behind I eyelids as I fall asleep I tend to see somewhat grotesque faces, like of ugly witches, morphing around, and star to hear voices saying nonsensical things, as well as have nonsensical thoughts. Sometimes it happens that I hear a sudden voice yelling at me and I get startled and wake up. They say that's NREM stage 1, and that you're technically already asleep.
interesting. in the case of the gnome it was an embodied hallucination, so i looked up and saw the spirit physically there. and when i went to raise my hand to draw a sigil i physically did it while simultaneously being paralyzed, so it was quite an unusual experience. combined with the full body vibrations moments before makes it conclusively a case of sleep paralysis, but i dunno if that occurs during nrem 1 or not. i'm familiar with seeing patterns along with hearing shouting and doors slamming, i think that's pretty common as you fall asleep

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>>260256
So I have to put 4 regular alarms each night?
won't I "sleep trough" them,at one point?
>im willing to do it if it works,tho

 No.260270

this tard again…

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>>260265
Are you responding to the video or my comment? I said that because of a past experience taking care of a sick elderly aunt some years ago where she was usually waking me up approx. every 30-60 minutes and at most every 2 hours. That caused me to have a lot of lucid dreams, sleep paralyses, and false awakenings, some very short where I'd just look around my room to find it very different, some a bit longer where I'd already be walking around for a couple of minutes before realizing I was actually dreaming.

It kinda works in giving you experiences, but it's very chaotic and out of control. The important point of that "method" is actually getting up for at least some 15 minutes and waking up your mind, and then going back to sleep without letting your mind fall asleep with the body, e.g., by focusing on the sensations of your body (they call it BTB now that I remember). You may then slip into a lucid dream or have sleep-paralysis experiences like drifting down through your bed and spinning around.

But I'd honestly recommend Michael Raduga's method a lot more if you actually care about having OOBEs/lucid dreams/astral projections beyond just randomly messing around (which is actually what I tend to do lol). I said the multiple alarms thing because you're someone who's willing to randomly mess around with harmful behaviors to get such experiences, and it'd be a lot more effective than not sleeping for 48 hours.

If you can, watch that whole video, but if you just want the method, it's in pages 9-23 of this pdf (https://remspace.net/files/the_phase.pdf). The technique is not too involved and bound to work if you follow it to the letter. I also recommend dream journaling while at it to further strengthen the whole practice.

>>260261
>i dunno if that occurs during nrem 1 or not
I get what you mean. I've had a couple of similar experiences. It sounds like something that could only happen a lot more into the NREM-REM cycle, though I've heard of astral projection stories that happened right as someone fell asleep, so idk.

 No.260325

hey, OP here
I started sleeping with my head heading NORTH and I had such better,more lucid,dreams

 No.260327

>>260325
Why the fuck would that make any difference?

 No.260328

>>260327
magnetic fields i suppose. Or you know, it doesn't.

 No.260330

It's easy and odd if you take amphetamines. You can be awake 48 hours and not even feel tired. But you start to interpret shadows in your peripheral vision as people etc. Shadow realm imo

 No.260333

>>260256
hey hi
I just put 4 alarms, once every 2 hours..for my 8 hour sleep.
i hope it goes well. i HATE waking up with an alarm…but i need dem lucid dreamz

 No.260334

started sleeping with my head heading south my woke up with a sore wizhole

 No.260335

>>260333
I recommended not to do that. But at least try to get up for some minutes and not let your mind fall asleep once you get back in bed. Focus on the sensations of your body and the light behind your eyelids. The first alarm is probably pointless since it's somewhat later in the REM cycle that you start to have more vivid dreams, at least some 4.5 hours deep into your sleep according to a diagram I saw in that textbook. It's waking up while in a REM stage and then letting your body fall asleep without your mind going to sleep with it that helps you enter a lucid dream.



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