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 No.263530

I don't have positive reasons to live. I only have negative reasons to live, that is reasons only to avoid things. The negative reasons are that I'd make my parents miserable if I offed myself, and that I'd possibly end up in hell or some similar shit place in the afterlife if there is an afterlife and a hell or similar. I don't pretend to know with confidence if there is or isn't an afterlife, but I've spent enough time on philosophy, religious studies, and afterlife research (such as it is) to know that the possibility hasn't been ruled out by any means.

Do you have any positive reasons to live? What are they? Any advice on how I can get some? Some background info that might be relevant is that I have a job that pays decently and is easy, so at that level my situation doesn't need much improvement, although I do worry about losing the job and becoming a poorfag almost daily; if I don't this job, I will not have even one thing going for me in my life, and I doubt I could ever get another even half as good.

 No.263531

>>263530
That should say "if I lose this job"

 No.263532

Better question is, do you have any reasons to die? If you are comfortable, if no great suffering is upon you, I don't see why you wouldn't just carry on as long as you can, just for the curiosity if nothing else. Life has a way of always returning to baseline anyway, so you will survive poverty if that is your greatest fear. Majority of the world is poor as shit yet continue on daily.

 No.263533

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>>263530
Today I ponder the same thing considering I just had a rant about how my shitty manager treated me at work today at a dead end job that I fucking hate. I don't have any meaning or reason to exist at all, I've been looking into philosophy to find meaning but all I end up with that nothing fucking matters whatso ever and it pisses me off. I have no career interest, no more hobbies I enjoy except for fapping and vidya. I'm at my last straw now but only my family keeps me alive because they're a big family that I really don't want to hurt when i'm gone. Life is a punishment now, I only exist to suffer.

 No.263534

>positive reasons
>negative reasons
Whaat? Let me transform your negative reasons into positive ones then. You love your family and care about them, that is a positive reason to live. Your life also isn't shit enough for you to kill yourself because you still hesitate and speculate about hell or whatever. There, you don't mind living and you like your family. It's a matter of perspective change only.

If you want more reasons to live (why not? they never hurt) then start valuing yourself more for starters. Try out new things, new genres, new forms of hobbies. Find what you were meant to enjoy.

My reason for living is because I like my hobbies, which is indulging in art or entertainment. I also like eating good food and masturbating. Taking a big shit, even something so basic, can also be fun. You don't need big goals or epic reasons to live. Just tune your mind to the fun frequency. If things get really bad for some reason then they will motivate you to commit suicide. Otherwise? Sit back and enjoy what you can until you can.

>>263532
>so you will survive poverty if that is your greatest fear. Majority of the world is poor as shit yet continue on daily.
I understand what you mean but the majority can be disregarded as they are idiots. Men can endure lots of shit and great sufferings and tragedies too but hey, if you can't endure it anymore what's the big deal? You will be motivated to actually kill yourself. It's not worth getting worked up about life, yeah. The stoics were right. Men don't really suffer from actual things but only from the negative images they create for themselves. Anxiety and fear are worse than the actual shit things in life.

 No.263535

Living is all that I know and I might find some grandiose purpose if I continue to live. Merely being alive is bizarre so I can believe that something supernatural might happen in the future if I continue to live. Maybe I might live a long mundane life but I should find that out instead of severing myself from what I only know.

 No.263536

>>263535
I guess it's a kind of solipsist delusion of grandiosity

 No.263538

>>263534
> Men don't really suffer from actual things but only from the negative images they create for themselves
That is an absolute lie. How the fuck you believe into this lie?

 No.263545

>>263538
What you suffer from is anxiety, worry, stress, fear, etc. Not the shit things in existence. You make yourself suffer by clinging to these negative emotions.

Take any negative thing in life and think about it. Being poor or being ugly for example, these only matter as long as you think they matter. The mind is the source of suffering. You are torturing yourself completely unnecessarily day by day because you indulge and feed your negative emotions and let them rule over you.

You discover tomorrow you have cancer. You would get upset about it, rage and cry and things like that, right? But you can't change the fact that you have cancer. By indulging in negative thoughts and feeding your misery via complaining you only make yourself feel worse, you don't accomplish anything.

 No.263546

A reason to live is a reason to live. It doesn't have to be good, or true for that matter, it just has to outweight your desire to off yourself.

"…for against your will were you created, against your will were you born, against your will do you live, against your will will you die, and against your will will you stand in judgment before the King of kings, the Holy One, blessed be He."

Ignoring the god bit, it sounds quite reasonable.

About your conumdrum, find a way to delude yourself into continuing living despite the suffering, or find a way to make yourself an early check-out.

 No.263638

>>263545
I thought you were deluded nope, you’re pure crazy moron. Everything you said is insane and you just say even if you’re in worst condition just think posive. I really can’t believe how there are so many insane, deluded morons in wizchan. I’m legit thinking about quitting this place just to not read retarded shits like this. I always wondered what happened to older wizards , I think they just can’t tolerate this insanity anymore and they just leave.

 No.263639

>>263638
I think the real wizards are dead already. Depression is hard to be=at and suicide seems the best option. Also where will you go if you leave wizchan? Theres no where else like this place.

 No.263642

>>263639
not him but i think its better to be alone than in some poser voice chat clique on discord trying to one up each other constantly

 No.263643

I have refused to accept “defeat”. I will not let reality, the world, or people break me. Killing myself would be to give in to them. And I’m not living out of spite, I still enjoy some media and drugs, I just refuse to let anyone or anything ruin or take these away from me.

 No.263660

If any of you have abusive parents you should live your life knowing they never made you kys

 No.263665

I dunno, get a hobby and live for the sake of it's mastery?

 No.263672

>>263638
>you just say even if you’re in worst condition just think posive
Yes, what's wrong with that? Did you gain anything in life by misery and negativity? Or by complaining, whining, raging impotently, stressing over things you couldn't do anything about? There is simply no value to these harmful feelings. Change what you can and don't give a shit about things that are out of your control.

>I always wondered what happened to older wizards , I think they just can’t tolerate this insanity anymore and they just leave.

More like they ran out of NEETbux or parents died so the time came for them to suffer excessively. Their smallest problem is more important to them now than posting on anonymous websites. That or they integrated into normal society and now live the ex-wiz family life/worker drone life.

>>263639
Suicide is the least possible fate for people here. They are homeless or went full crazy or got locked up in jail most likely.

>>263643
Now that is great to hear, wiz. We need more people like you.

 No.263711

>>263672

>Men don't really suffer from actual things but only from the negative images they create for themselves


You’re an utterly delusional moron. There is no rational argument with crazy retards. I’m pretty sure older wizards leave this place because of insane morons like you. Because my tolerance of craziness is getting less and less.

 No.263734

>>263545
It's true that some things in life can cause genuine pain but today I've been stressing about shit that was beyond my control and ur post made me find some relief. Thanks anon

 No.263735

>>263711
I mean you can only read a post about how we’re all Boltzmann brains on the third karmic wheel of satan’s soul torturing virtual reality so many times.

 No.263738

>>263735
Wizzies leave because of Boltzmann brain posting?

 No.263769

>>263711
Come on, don't go, we love you wiz. Everyone should be allowed to speak his mind freely right, as long as they don't break the rules?

>>263734
No problem, have confidence in yourself, you can endure many things. Life is too short and full of hardships for us to get worked up about it.

 No.265110

>>263530
The only reason I have to live is my dog. I won't kill myself and leave him to be neglected or abused by my parents. If they keep him at all.
He's too sweet to go through any of that shit.

 No.265174

>>265173
May you find peace in afterlife wizard. I also feel death is getting close to me.



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