I really want to enjoy them again, but no matter how hard I try I can never get any enjoyment out of them. It's the same with any other kind of media really… Does anyone else suffer from this curse? Is there a way to undo it?
>>39644 no particular reason, you might as well go for highscore in pacman championship edition or something. speedrunning is just the most popular form of non-online competitive gaming and because of that it's easier to find tutorials and such.
Why would you want to OP? Playing video games is opting to live vicariously through the fantasy of another human being, rather than experiencing true reality. I feel far better these days now that I've discarded escapism as a whole.
Everything is fine out here brother, come out of your dream world.
>>39672 This post reminds me of that short horror story where they keep trying to get the guy to leave his room and go outside even though some scary machine network took over everybody and is impersonating them and they want him too.
>>39675 >>39676 He was very clearly being metaphorical- >Playing video games (life) is opting to live vicariously through the fantasy of another human being (the Demiurge), rather than experiencing true reality (non-material existence, ie the formless realms). I feel far better these days now that I've discarded escapism (ego, the thought-construct of the self as a separate entity) as a whole
This was a visitor from a higher realm, not an evil machine or zombie.
You have to quit them for some time, but beware you will never be so in to anything as you were when you where young.
Didnt touched a computer for almost 2 years and when i got back i enjoyed a 3 months period of enjoyment from games, it eventually turned dull from overuse
>>39674 A bad choice is not better than no choice. Time is a zero sum game. You can't get back the 5 years you spent grinding Mario 64 for a number no one cares about.
>>39684 >It's not even a skill you can apply else where. being able to improve at something is a skill in itself. in other words speedrunning does teach you to be persistent when learning other skills. someone who can grind mario 64 for 5 years has a lot willpower.
>>39697 Being stubborn isn't a skill, neither is being autistic.
IF you were applying for a job would you say "I sat for 5 years replaying Mario 64 over and over until I damaged the tendons in my hand and couldn't play it any more"? That's not an appealing thing to say.
>>39700 >it takes a lot more than stubbornness and autism Such as? I fail to see how speedrunning is anything more than obsessively practicing and doing runs. I guess if you want to be a "top runner" you need to keep abreast of new strats as well. But pretty much all you do is grind out practice, and then grind out runs. Not to say that you can't have fun doing that, but don't try to elevate it beyond what it is.
>>39702 >Such as? dedication and persistence, the same thing you need to succeed at literally everything else. which is what makes it different from just playing. >but don't try to elevate it beyond what it is. and what exactly do you think it is?
>>39684 >>39698 >A bad choice is not better than no choice. you're suggesting it's a bad choice because: -no one cares about it -it's not a skill you can appply elsewhere -it's not an appealing thing to say when getting a job >You can't get back the 5 years you spent grinding Mario 64 for a number no one cares about obviously you do it because YOU care about it >it's not a skill you can apply elsewhere assuming this is even true, why does this make it a bad choice if you enjoy doing it? >it's not an appealing thing to say when getting a job really? these last two things you say necessarily make consuming all forms of entertainment bad choices, personal enjoyment isn't a reason at all to develop anything. you expect everyone to choose worky worky skills and boost their resumes or some shit? on an imageboard for reclusive neet antisocial virgin magicians??
i don't think it's a bad choice to do speedrunning or anything else if you are interested in it. if anything your interest in something determines whether its good or not. people can egoistically pursue self destructive things and still derive benefit
>>39705 Dedication and persistence doesn't mean shit if you use it in the complete wrong direction.
>>39710 >Muh enjoyment I don't give a fuck how much you care about something. It doesn't change that you're spenting a large chunk of your life replaying a game. You're not evolving as a person, you're stagnating because it's comfortable to do so. >All forms of entertainment are bad No. I just finished watching a Rocky movie. It made me want to try harder then I exercise. As a person I improved in my desire to be better and live a longer life through watching a movie about a man being punched in the face.
If I read a good book it confronts me with no ideas or no ways of understadning things. This is also good growth and develops my brain.
Doing the exact same action over and over until you get lucky is not self improvement. It's self destructive. And if you wanted to be self destructive there's better ways of doing it.
Goose got it right in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56N17d4WnM Speedrunning is what losers who can't achieve anything do to feel good about themselves. They grind games to get a PB, get a fake achievement rush of feels goods and then after a week they hate themselves again and repeat the entire cycle.
When people discuss the decline of Western civilization speedrunning will be part of that discussion. When men lost their way so hard they decided Sonic the hedgehog and Super Mario Bros being finished half a second faster was worth hundreds of hours of labour. Just consider what that time COULD do. It's revolting.
>>39711 >if you use it in the complete wrong direction. who are you to decide what is a wrong direction? not everyone cares about doing everything to advance in normalfag hierarchy. >You're not evolving as a person being a productive/socially accepted drone is not evolving as a person. >No. I just finished watching a Rocky movie. It made me want to try harder then I exercise exercising is only important to you personally, it's not objectively a good thing. believe it or not but when i consume a motivational book/movie or see an inspiration quote it motivates me to speedrun because that's what is important to me. >Goose got it right in this video if you'd know goose better you'd know that he still think that speedrunning is infinitely better than just playing games for no reason at all because speedrunning let's you see how far can you push yourself as a person.
>>39725 You know, I kinda started to like fatlink actually. He's such a cute little retard, you can always count on him to say something so retardedly fucking stupid that it'll be funny. It's like having a monkey with down syndrome as a mascot.
>>39705 I said exactly what I think it is in my post. I think that we have exactly the same conception of what speedrunning is, but you prefer to dress it up in nice terms. In my mind it's just playing a game over and over. It seems like you believe that in the act of repeating it, it somehow becomes more than that.
>>39731 >but you prefer to dress it up in nice terms. you are the one who prefers to dress it up in negative terms. it takes effort, just like anything worth doing. >It seems like you believe that in the act of repeating it, it somehow becomes more than that. it becomes something that casuals who can only talk shit will never come close to achieving. >>39733 >autistic losers are a bad thing wizchan 2049
>>39736 and are you saying the less normal someone is the more bad he is? chris-chan doesn't speedrun neither does anyone with autism as severe as his.
>>39711 >When men lost their way so hard they decided Sonic the hedgehog and Super Mario Bros being finished half a second faster was worth hundreds of hours of labour. Just consider what that time COULD do. It's revolting
Agreed, 100%. I understand that there is no objective right or wrong in physical reality, but the thought of some 38 year old man devoting his life to finishing Banjo-Kazooie 3 seconds faster makes me want to vomit. Then this same exact person is going to shitpost on /dep/ all day, wondering why he's depressed.
I'm not advocating getting a job, reproducing, or having any human interaction whatsoever. None of those things are necessary in order to have a happy, healthy and fulfilling life, however I will say that merely grinding out your day to day existence playing video games is a horrible way to live.
As a teenager I spent a fuckload of time playing World of Warcraft, gathering talbuk hooves. How has that contributed to improving my life here, over a decade later? It didn't do a fuckdamn thing. My neurons were at peak vulnerability back then and I could have mastered any skill in the world, but instead I spent hundreds of hours gathering hooves from virtual animals in a game that's now dead and gone, yet here I remain.
Video games are a waste and when those of you here grow up you'll realize this as well.
Maybe try practicing a hobby that involves creating rather than consuming, i.e. drawing, programming, writing etc. It doesn't really matter if anyone sees/uses what you create, just the process itself helps. >>39640 Autism and /pol/ shit aside, I doubt forcing yourself to play a game over and over again is going to help. It'll probably just make him hate games more.
>>39738 Games have their place but it's not to replay the same one over and over.
If you enjoy fantasy worls you can enjoy a good game the same you would a good book. You can explore new ideas in them and how things work.
The other way to use them is as a distraction in a healthy manner. Play a couple of hours to unwind when stressed. In a lot of pain? Games are a proven method of distracting you and increasing your pain tolerance. Burn victims were given a VR headset to help them deal with pain during cleanings and it proved effective at lowering their suffering.
If you wanted to destress by playing Sonic then sure, no problem. If you speedrun sonic and get more and more stressed because of it then it's a real problem. Especially when you dedicate hours a day to it.
>>39739 i literally said that it probably won't help. however putting effort into something is at the very least different than just consuming, if the guy still enjoyed just consuming i wouldn't reply. i'm not telling anyone how to spend their time, unlike people who started attacking speedrunning.
>>39755 He's not entirely wrong. If you put 10,000 hours into anything the right way, you're going to get what is called "mastery." Obviously the skill ceiling is going to vary from person to person.
>>39738 >My neurons were at peak vulnerability back then and I could have mastered any skill in the world Don't kid yourself. You were playing WoW because you weren't particularly good at anything, so you wouldn't have achieved mastery even if you tried. You might as well spend your pointless life on something that at least numbs you to the existential dread.
>>40625 >attack a fellow poster by calling him a pathetic waste of human life for not sharing his shitty mindset >cannot even define exactly what he meant, or why should anyone take this as anything more than an unwarranted hostile gesture >thinks it's a matter of simple disagreement/difference of opinions
>>39618 >Video games are a waste and when those of you here grow up you'll realize this as well.
Nah, video games are fun to play, you're just bitter you spent way too much time playing them. Not your fault, though. That should've been your parents responsibility.
>Does anyone else suffer from this curse? Is there a way to undo it? dunno I know that I regained some sense of enjoyment after heavily modding my consoles
it seems that doing so created an emotional bond, and the joy in using something I made trickles down a bit to the games, whatever……
>>43551 as I grew older I totally became disgusted by any kind of grind. If I have to grind a day for some boss or item I say fuck it and rather do something else or play other game
>>43564 we all know OP made this thread to vent about his depression anhedonia or w/e, and not to discuss games I don't visit /games/ or /hob/ to subject myself to /dep/-tier blogging