No.40464
you play offline only
No.40465
Play me in dbfz,pussy
No.40471
become black or asian
No.40486
The short answer is practice, practice a lot.
No.40487
my brother plays that game all day and when I ask him to play something else with me he starts to cry. I hope my mum stops giving him money because he spends it all in games, the stupid idiot thinks he's a gamer for having 200 games on steam of which he only have played 10. Damn, stupid kid I wish I had his luck when I was his age… He even gets to eat fancy asian food which I've never got the taste of when I was that young because we were piss poor.
No.43095
>>43063
No
No.43096
>>43063
I played it back in the day but at the time I preferred mortal kombat.
Then 3d fighters came out which were my true jam. I just don't like 2d/2.5d fighters all that much.
I miss the fighting game genera but I haven't really played much, and nothing new since I switched over to PC only.
I know that Saga will probably never port my favorite fighting game to PC or make a new one in the next decade if ever, but there really must be a 3d fighter out there that I can play on my PC that is really worth my time.
Maybe the new Soul Caliber will be as good as 2 (didn't really like any of the others after), or the upcoming DoA game if they don't censor it to hell, or maybe I should just bite the bullet and get good at Tekken.
IDK, there hasn't been something that really stood out to me as must play when it comes to 3d fighters on the PC. 90% of the fighting game focus seems to be on 2.5d stuff that I just am not into.
No.43117
Don't start off with a tag fighter if you want to get good at fighting games.
No.43118
>>43113
Back then it was probably the Sega Genesis version of Mortal Kombat 3
But like I said, once I got my hands on 3d fighters I always preferred those.
No.44681
>>44675Yeah I am currently playing the shit out of SC 6. It is really good and I don't have any complaints about the game its self. I do think some of Namco's business practices are bullshit but whatever.
No.45128
>>45127What makes a genre a "normie" genre? The fact norms like it? Literally every genre is one by that definition.
No.45145
Is it acceptable to just play against the computer over and over again?
Not only do I suck in general, I'm afraid of what the other guy online is gonna think.
No.45147
>>45145Why wouldn't it be?
No.45149
>>45145I also usually prefer playing against computers. It's more fun and feels more game-y. I like learning about the computer player and how to beat it.
No.45162
>>45145Before non-shit online play was a thing playing the computer excessively was required and expected. To truly get good you still would have to occationally play skilled human opponents, but if you don't care about something like that then there are a lot of fighting games that have a lot of content and suport for solo play.
Actually the game I am playing now is great in that regard (soul caliber 6). The last few MK games and the injustice games are also known for their great story mode and single player experience.
No.45566
>>45549My sister always used to beat me by button mashing on any fighting game, while I played like a pro. Anyone else have that experience? How the hell does it work.
No.45567
>>45566i did the same, beat all my friends in school back then in every fighting game by mashing buttons, enraging some of them really hard because they felt they were pro and knowledgeable. the secret is timing, while you waste time on thinking about your moves and combos i just hit the button when my intuition tells me, i have more awareness and calmness. once i caught you off guard you will just panic making even more mistakes while i button mash you to death. i doubt this would work against a real pro whos an expert in countering, but people like you are usually those half serious players that only think about offense and never spent a second training defense, so when their offense fails they die.
No.45570
>>45567>never learned to play defensethat's not true, and your whole post is so stupidly hyperbolic, go post that shit on b
No.45572
>>45571it means you're exaggerating for effect, and it's evident in your ridiculous choice of wording
No.45573
>>45566>while I played like a proDoubtful
>>45567double doubt
No.45701
>>45128I´d only give that label to sports games and CoD. Because is exactly what you find in the library of a person who owns a console but doesn´t care about games or media very much.
The classic convo when you enter some normie´s living room: Fifa, some shooter and maybe a racing game or GTA next to the bottle of tequila. Is the stuff people buy almost by default.
Pokemon and Mario games if they are females. Almost always guaranteed.
No.45702
>>45701succubi are into mario games now?
That is news to me. I though casual puzzle games were their bread and butter.
No.45714
>>45702Have always been. Mario, Pokemon, Zelda and maybe Animal Crossing. Standard gamer succubus since forever.
No.45986
do you guys play on fightcade?>>40462
No.46071
wtf does everyone like Guile over HighScoreGirl now?
No.46085
I'm good with Chun Li and Nightmare (Soul Calibur) and terrible at everything else
No.46087
>>46071Guile was always popular; that what happens when you're the character with game-breaking glitches in the first version of Street Fighter II.
If anything, HighScoreGirl should have made Zangief more popular…
http://curryallergy.blogspot.com/2012/02/viper-explains-hajiki-screw.html No.46114
>>46085I love soul Calibur I main Seung Mina
No.46133
>>46071I could never use Guile properly but he has always been popular even when he wasn't meta.
I always like to spam with Sagot and generally play hyper aggressively. But I am not really a fan of SF and 2d fighters in general. Though MK was a lot of fun with other people back in the day. Super shit hitboxes and imbalanced as fuck though so never got serious about it.
No.46206
>>46203Not since the mid 00s.
Super local small stuff around the city I lived in. Just random shit that came up at the time. Usually pretty informal events with a tiny prize. Rarely was it ever a game I played, but I usually had fun regardless.
No.46474
fighting games are a nearly exclusively companion-centric thing and you will be forever shit unless you hang out with people IRL regularly.
these normalfags you will be forced to play with are constantly moving on to "the next big thing". if you like a game and want to play it, you will be playing it completely alone soon, within a year probably, making all of your practice and money invested worthless instantly. you know how many people are playing street fighter IV still? zero. you know how many iterations that game had and how much DLC it has? probably $900 worth. all worthless now cause no one plays it. if you suggest to play it they'll say "wtf dude no, i'm practicing this new anime fighter, besides that game is shit and broken" because every old game is "shit" even though they liked it at the time.
the normalfags you are forced to play with are braindead apes that talk in buzzwords and memes and use weird coded twitter language that will take you a year to learn on its own. when they try to "help" you, they'll talk in this weird coded language and think you're a retard for not understanding. they'll just think you're a retard in general and ostracize you in under 12 hours.
also i don't know if you care about this or not but most local fighting game hangouts have 0 white people, or their one white person will be a succubus/tranny.
it is a complete waste of time, money and energy.
No.46506
>>40462Other than the obvious (practicing a lot) just watch other people play your character and get the frame data. I got competent at tekken in no time and I had never played it before.
No.46564
>>46474>also i don't know if you care about this or not but most local fighting game hangouts have 0 white people, or their one white person will be a succubus/tranny.Yea, I've noticed fighting games seem to appeal a lot to niggers, spics, and mentally deranged whites. I'm assuming most people in this thread are non-white.
No.46567
I can't stand playing multiplayer games since the other players tend to be like rubbing against sandpaper, but you get better at them by doing the "training mode" and learning all of the "frame data" so that you know that doing, say, 236 a (down, down forward,forward, horizontal) is less frames than your opponents attack, or that your opponent will do something like parry, so you do a slow break attack.
Played a bunch of Soulcalibur VI this way. Got pretty good but mostly because I don't watch or copy other people but instead make up my own gameplan based on what other people do.
No.46591
I have never payed much attention to frame data in all honesty.
I do however pay attention to hitboxes and the various states (invulnerability frame, hit stun, etc.).
I rather develop a sense of timing and spacing from playing the game, espcially with well made ai, then doing tech drills in practice mod and counting frame in replays. Maybe with such a mind set I will not be world class competative level, but I have a lot more fun and still am able to do relatively well in casual play.
Besides, the single player of a lot of fighting games now days is actually pretty good. You can have a lot of fun without knowing anyone who also plays, going to tournaments, or having a superb ping in online match ups.
No.47076
>>47074Playing Zangief is fun but god does it hurt my thumbs using a d-pad after awhile.
No.47246
>>46474>if you like a game and want to play it, you will be playing it completely alone soon, within a year probably, making all of your practice and money invested worthless instantly.>when they try to "help" you, they'll talk in this weird coded language and think you're a retard for not understanding. they'll just think you're a retard in general and ostracize you in under 12 hours.>it is a complete waste of time, money and energy.So like everything else in my life?
Whatever should I do!
I think the only time I played a game against someone else was once when a neighbor allowed me into their house, since then I've literally only play alone or random online matches. It's not too uncommon from what I hear, those people are just obviously not gonna be in tournies much
>also i don't know if you care about this or not but most local fighting game hangouts have 0 white people, or their one white person will be a succubus/tranny.the international appeal of the genre is one of the things that I find fascinating honestly
Also being an outsider in a public space, how could I ever deal with that
Though I think the weebier a game is the more white nerds would flock towards it
No.47266
>>46474bullshit. Games like SF 3rd Strike, SF Alpha 2 and Guilty Gear have still have many players
No.47633
>>47266try going to any local fighting game meet up and finding just 1 person who would agree to play any of those games more than one round as a novelty.
the second a new guilty gear comes out, xrd 2 will be dropped like a rock and people who previously loved it and bought all dlc will claim it's shit and unbalanced.
even if the new game in the series is literally manure, ala SFV, MvC:I, the new dead or alive, normalfag fighting game "enthusiasts" will play them anyways and drop the old (superior) predecessor.
i've asked many of them why they do this, and the response I sometimes get (besides propagating that the old superior game is "bad" like a retard like previously mentioned) is "i play it because of the EVO money" even though none of them ever go to EVO and if they did would never ever win anyway.
whatever is paying at EVO is what these retards will play.
No.47654
>>46474>>47633Just get fightcade retard
No.48371
soul cal 6 is my fukkin' jam
No.48641
>>48434Which one?
Though now that I think about it I haven't played SS in over a decade and don't remember most of their names, lol.
No.48644
>>48643Very cool.
If the price for the dlc is reasonably I might give him a shot.
No.49690
The quarantine has effected a lot of tournaments, now normies are bitching about online being too "lonely and depressing". People care more about socializing than playing the damn game.
No.49691
>>40462Visit a dojo, ask for apprenticeship.
No.49889
I am interested in trying fighting games but there is too many of these games for me to pick one as a starting point. Can anyone recommend fighting games that are preferably:
-beginner friendly
-works on a low end pc (more than 10 years old)
-pirateable with functioning online play or at least cheap
-has cute anime gurls
Thank you.
No.50092
>>49897>>49889Skullgirls fits two and a half of those requirements. I don't know if it's piratable, and my computer is so garbage that I won't notice anything good, but its online play was always one of the better ones in fighting games, and it just got updated to be better a few weeks ago. It has a very detailed tutorial for people completely new to fighting games, but it's such a textbook that I'm not sure I can praise it, you'll still end up being pummeled in matches anyway.
And on cute succubi, that's subjective. (But I always liked Filia. )
No.50283
>>46087kinda liked that anime
No.50790
>>50780Yawn. So they ruined their game with gimmicks. Sad.
No.50791
Remember MUGEN? The weirdest but funniest fighting game ever.
No.50792
>>50700
all fightan wizards are invited
No.50793
>>50770
pls no bulli
No.50849
>>40462Practice, practice and more practice are the only way to get good at fighting games. Strategic skills like matchup and character knowledge will become 2nd nature as a byproduct of simply playing the game.
Watching professional matches and trying to emulate and incorporate what you see there in your own gameplan is also a good way to get better.
No.51127
>>50017>>51060I prefer KEN even with his glitches.
COMBOS FROM HEAVEN ~ SSF2X Video by Bob Sagat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azdlaPoVfb8 No.51512
I suck at them in general, but then I played Capcom vs. SNK on Dreamcast every day for a couple of months and now it's actually fun.
No.51513
>>51512Also I realized that VS. fighting games are just no fun to play with pad (well, especially with Dreamcast controller, which is the final blunder of Sega).
When you play a lot with stick, you will also find that their quality matter. Threw Seimitsu LS-32 in to the offical Dreamcast stick and Sanwa 30mm push-in buttons.
Fun.
Mastering one game will make you good at other games of same company. All Capcom fighters have very similar mechanics and SNK games, including other than KoF's too, even more.
Arcade fighting games and STG's are just perfect games to play when drunk. They are hard, but fast to complete when you can handle them.
No.51526
I tried getting into them back in 2018 and even spent $500 (stupid impulsive purchase) on a hitbox and fightstick because I wanted to see which one was better for me and really thought I would stay committed to fighting games.
If you actually want to learn and have fun you need to go to your local fighting game community (you most likely have one unless you live in the middle of nowhere). I was too scared to go to mine and didn't want to interact with too many people so I gave it up.
No.51530
>>46474Is this like your memoir?
No.51536
>>51526I stick to using controller, which is probably why I prefer to play 3d fighting games rather then 2d%2.5d ones.
You see some pros still using controllers at even the highest levels of play so I think it is probably fine not to spend a ton of money on sticks unless you grew up with arcade cabinets or plan of playing on cabinets for tournaments.
I mean they are nice and all, but I don't think they are worth it for most players and is totally optional.
No.51538
I was a Diamond Ibuki a couple of years back before my fightstick started giving me wrist pain so had to stop using it.
I tried a PS4 controller and it was actually really comfortable but I was having massive (and very basic) execution errors. Something as simple as activating VT wouldn't come out consistently, and if I changed the config then something else requiring 2 button presses at once (ex moves) wouldn't come out. Was super frustrating and I couldn't fix it.
Wanted to try a hitbox but custom ones are super expensive (250 euros at least) for some odd reason and I'm too brainlet for DIY. I'm paranoid about those giving me hand pain too and selling a custom hitbox would be much harder if that happened to be the case.
I do miss playing them a bit though.
No.51540
>>51538I will admit it takes a lot more practice to get consistentcy with inputs on controller.
Maybe adjusting your posture using the fightstick would help with your ergonomics so it wouldn't hurt your wrist?
No.51541
>>51536>You see some pros still using controllers at even the highest levelsThats true. Tekken cabs in Japan up-to Dark Resurrection had PS controller ports.
The original and SCPH-1080 are very good for Tekken 3 and newer and all VF clones with sidestep.
Saturn controller is good for Capcom and SNK 2D fighters (and great for shmups, better than any stick, Seimitsu LS-40 included).
No.52072
Are there any side scrolling beat 'em ups or platformers that use fighting game inputs? I'd even take Smash bros style inputs. I think it would work really well.
No.52073
>>52072There's one but is a gacha and has gone cucked with censorship yesterday.
No.52074
>>52072i think the original Jump Ultimate Stars on the nintendo DS is kind of like that. it has a singleplayer campaign similar to Melee.
https://youtu.be/zbmWbyCFqqEit's been years though so i might be remembering totally wrong.
No.52076
>>52074I'm not looking for a smash clone, something like subspace emissary is what I want.
No.52108
>>52105Good game but it doesn't use any sort of inputs unless you think double taping forward is an input.
No.55384
>>55365Where's this from?
No.55637
Just mash every button like a retard until something cool happens and you win. Works for me.
No.55789
I've been playing brawlhalla, I never played a fighting game before, and I played a couple hours sucking real bad, then I took a character into training mode and realized there was a really good move combo I could use, basically just light uppercut then heavy uppercut right after. Now I am using this same combo over and over again and I'm winning almost every single game. I guess if you are playing with complete beginners then even having a single combo down puts you at the top
No.55791
You have to waste a lot of time on developing a skill that doesn't translate to anything else in life.
No.55793
>>55791So like any other video game.
I mean if you feel video games are a waste of time why are you even on this board. Surely there is a better use of your precious time then wasting it here.
No.55794
>>55793No, I didn't mean it like that. To get good at fighting games you have to be able to flawlessly execute movesets on demand. To do this you need to train for hours on hours a day to commit it to muscle memory. All this for what? Just so you can beat some rando online?
If that is your idea of fun, sure whatever, go for it. If you want to get into fighting games with the intent of getting good then expect to sink a fuckton of time into it.
No.55802
>>55794>I didn't mean it like that>confirms he did indeed mean it like thatYou can leave any time bro. If you don't see any value or enjoyment in games it's totally cool. Not every hobby is for every person.
No.55811
mobas count? you play it like a shmup/rts/fighting game and oh boy did I get mauled and every single duel in heroes of newerth, league and dota2. how is one suppose to play 3 genres at the same freaking time? absolutely infuriating experience made me cry out of anger
No.55814
>>55794>>55802If you want to get into X with the intent of getting good then expect to sink a ton of time into it.
Where X = archery, bicycling, drawing, driving, musical instrument, work or gaming
What's your point, bro?
No.55824
I started playing street fighter 3 on fightcade, you can get the rom for free and then play online I guess. I never played a fighting game before so I've just been practicing on bots, it is a lot more simple then I thought it would be. I chose to play makoto and I can do all her combos like 80% of the time after a few hours, I guess the only thing to do now is learn the other characters attacks and how to position and what not which seems like it will be the bulk of the learning.
No.55829
>>55814>
Video games are pretty useless in the fact that you cannot gain anything out of it. Physical activities like archery and bicycling are good for your health. Skills like driving, drawing, and music can at least earn you money. Gaming only exists as a way to pass time.
Anyway, I am not here to debate about how useful hobbies are. I am just saying getting good at fighting games requires a fuck ton of time.
No.55838
>>55829You are welcome to leave if you feel it's a waste of time.
Bye.
No.55841
>>55829archery has negligible health benefits. I used to do it a lot and it only damaged me in some ways, because it has asymmetrical effect on your muscles, and is a repetitive motion.
Drawing and music don't lead to meaningful money for the vast majority of people.
If you want exercise then go to a gym. If people are doing something with a side-effect of a little exercise, they are mostly just doing it for fun.
Mental health is at least as important as physical health. If people can derive enjoyment out of something then it has health benefits. Of course it is possible to play too much
Life is a waste of time. To put it another way, nothing is a waste of time. There is no reason to spend time being "productive" - there is no meaning to life, so it doesn't make sense - there is nothing to be productive toward. To me it only makes sense to say: if you enjoy playing and it enhances your life, go for it; if you take a step back and think you would be happier on balance doing something else in the long-term, then dont play
No.55845
>>55824How's your parry skill?
>>55829>Gaming only exists as a way to pass time.Can't earn money? Guess DAIGO UMEHARA doesn't exist.
No.55964
I have few Dreamcast fighters I'd like to start playing and learning, but then I drink and end up playing Capcom vs. SNK anyway, which I have played a lot and much more.
Especially I'd like to play Last Blade 2, but no. DoA2 is a nogo because of distractions (and I don't really like sidestepping, so no Soulcalibur either).
This will happen again later today. It's Friday compulsion: vodka, aforementined game with one hand and writing bullshit on irc with the other.
And yes, I do know that alcohol is the problem, but without it I don't seem to have any interest in playing videogames at all anymore. I went two months without drinking just now and for once I started playing for all of five minutes.
No.57386
>>55840only guilty gear XRD. Its a fun game, the animation is really good.