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Im planning to purchase a brand new prebuilt pc soon as I suck at tinkering with stuff and don’t want to bother learning to build one. Is now a good time to buy? Im not even sure how much money I am ready to sink into new hardware, but Id like it to last as long as possible ideally… Are there brands to avoid, standards soon to become obsolete, any basic trap for retards like me to be aware of?
PC I have right now is from 2011/12 and it was outdated even by that year’s standards, and I still use an old VGA screen from the mid 2000s, I guess I’ll have to ditch it and buy a new one?
I’d also like to know if shelling out some more money on top to get windows 10 is worth it? Again I reiterate I am tech illiterate and will rather spend more for convenience (like having the thing prebuilt) than waste time setting up linux or a pirated OS or something.


Thanks you for the fast replies, one other I would like to know which will sound weird but please understand: how much would you be willing to put into a new PC and screen combo? I plan to replace my PS4 (wont sell it tho) and stop consoles altogether… Ive been thinking, around 1200 euros would be fine, but although I have that kind of money in the bank Im afraid Ill have buyers remorse…
And theres still the win 10 problem. Is there any way to get it on the cheap?


>since if you're playing competative games you'd want to turn down settings to the lowest anyway.
only to have overhead performance or are low settings usually easier to make sense of (characters les sblending into terrains etc.)


depends what games you wanna play and how demanding

go for one of the 3000 series ryzen cpus, idk if there are many prebuilt pcs with them yet. but even if you have to wait a month or two, its worth it, those should last you a long time and are very cost efficient rn


>how much would you be willing to put into a new PC and screen combo?
Depends how much spending money I have. Personally I go for top of the line. If I can't buy top of the line I save up more. That being said I was given my parents' HDTV for free and really see no issue with 1080p/60hz. I mean, 120hz would be nice, but I don't really play games enough to care about it. I still get 'shit that looks so crisp and nice' feeling when I watch something recorded in 1080p with a lot of detail.


>Im planning to purchase a brand new prebuilt pc soon as I suck at tinkering with stuff and don’t want to bother learning to build one.
just to add to that, I'm pretty much retarded, I break stuff constantly, I managed to build a PC just fine. Reconsider this, it's pretty much just assembling stuff.


These look pretty expensive, are they supposed to drop in price any time soon?


they are incredibly competitive at each price point, expensiveness is relative, do you find the $250-USD 3600x to be expensive?


well Idk I guess, I have a whole pc to purchase, plus a screen and the building fee, I dont wanna spend too much if I can help it


well the 1st gen ryzens have dropped a lot in price recently, down below $125 for the 1600 for example. you could also get the 2nd gen 2600 for like $20 more. so if your budget is tight i might recommend one of those. they are very good cpus. but if you want something that's "future-proof" the 3rd gens are the way to go imo. well if you're buying prebuilt you might not be able to control every tiny detail, but the amd offerings are great on a performance per dollar basis, but for the older gens, intel cpus have the (slight) edge in gaming performance. it's only with these gen 3 cpus that amd caught up there, with much more affordable prices. but it would be easier to recommend something if you gave a budget and some examples of games that you wanted to play.


I dont know how much the screen is going to cost, 1080p is good enough, so if a decent monitor’s like 200 euros that id have to shave off the total amount im willing to spend (lets say 1200 euros at the very most) Im obviously in western europe where components might be more expensive than in the us. And then there are the os and building fees to consider. Sorry but im too clumsy to even attempt to do it myself.


hilarious, asshole.


well unfortunately i dont know much at all about prebuilt pcs, let alone the economic situation of west eu, i can talk a little bit about components that you might consider if you see them in a prebuild but thats about it

as far as the monitor goes, since you seem pretty concerned with that, i've been using an asus VN248Q-P for a few years, its going now for around 150 usd, which is apparently like 135 euros. if the quality is still the same as it was back when i got it, i would fully recommend it


well it’s hardly any different than building one yourself, just select the components and have them build it and ship it, so suggestions and advices are still very much appreciated regardless
Thank you.


>1080p is good enough
I disagree, upgrading from 1080p to 1440p dramatically improved my life. Not sure about 4k


upgrading from 720p to 1080p did the same for me and I'm more than happy as it is now.


You can probably build one yourself.

Put the motherboard on risers, be sure to touch metal occasionally, use only a grain of rice worth of silver metal cooling crap, don't have it plugged in until you're ready.

The only "hard" part is the cords for power/lights, etc. since they aren't well documented.

It's really easy. Even I could do it and I fuck up everything.


realized just now that a new console generation is right around the corner, still safe to buy now in your opinion or wait until we know more?


it will be good to buy pc hardware for the next months. i dont think the console stuff has much to do with it

but it depends on what hardware specifically you are wanting to buy


i stopped caring about new generation when i realized old games as just as entertaining
thinking of buying wii or ps2 now


Consider emulation if you have the PC for it. Wii and PS2 games are getting pricey and rare even on eBay, plus emulation comes with perks such as resolution scaling and savestates.


whats a good gpu for $300 and is it safe to buy one overclocked by the manufacturer


gtx 1660 ti, and yes it is


which brand do you recommend? is there anything better from amd in that price range or is nvidia the better option?


and what do you think of 144hz monitors?


Let’s say I want to play a single-player game at 60 or lower fps, would it look worse on a 144hz compared to a 60hz? Isn’t there a way to lower the refresh rate or w/e it is to get an experience as smooth as it would be on a 60hz, and revert it back to 144hz if I boot up something more fast paced, competitive, or merely browsing the internet?

BenQ Zowie XL2411P this monitor doesn’t have freesync or g sync or any fancy option, not worth it?


it just gets more confusing the more i look into this…


I’ve got other things to ask if you do not mind. by the way thanks a lot for being patient with me and taking the time to give me advice.
Intel SSD 660P 1Tb
It’s the only DD I will get. It looks cheap enough and has plenty enough storage space for me, I think. Please bear with me as I have no experience with SSDs, can I create partitions just like a regular HDD, one for the OS, another for the rest?


i don't think amd has anything better in the sub-$300 price range. their new navi cards (rx 5700 series) are very competitive from a price-performance perspective. but you would have to bump it up to $350 to get the rx 5700, plus custom designs for those cards won't be available until mid-august - meaning you'll be stuck with a blower-style cooler that tends to run somewhat loud and hot. personally i am planning to upgrade to a 5700 xt sometime around september but i am definitely waiting to see how the custom designs turn out first

ive never had one but it seems like a nice luxury to have, if you can afford it

probably not super useful unless you play competitive shooters and such though. i would recommend just going for a 60fps setup especially if you're on a budget

yes, you can partition it just the same


actually there is the vega 56 from amd, i didn't realize the price had gone down so much lately, it should have the edge on the 1660 ti. if you can find it below $300 that is


I was going to inquire about that one, from what ive read though amd cards tend to be louder/hotter than nvidias? is this true? and are there manufacturers to avoid (i mean, asus, gigabyte, msi and so forth)


btw about the ssd >>46355 are these reliable long term because I plan to keep it for a long time
there’s a lower performance one that’s significantly cheaper (pny cs900 1tb) which would make me save like $40
All of this is making my head hurt


>amd cards tend to be louder/hotter than nvidias? is this true
generally, yes

>manufacturers to avoid

it depends on the card. you should look at reviews for whatever youre thinking of buying

both of those being relatively new, its hard to say if they would last years, ssds in general tend to be reliable, ive had mine for a few years with no problems. probably they are about as reliable as hdds but they can wear out over time, you would probably get a new one before that happens though

of those two though, i would definitely choose the intel one, especially if youre interested in it being a future-proof system that you keep for the long term, the price difference doesnt seem that big to me but i dont know what retailer youre looking at. for me theyre both around $90-$100


btw i figured ill drop some resources in here for looking at/comparing different parts

-has benchmarks for tons of parts, you can pick from cpu/gpu/ssd/ram, etc. comparisons at the top, it also lists prices, user ratings, it's a great site

-you can make your own part lists for builds, and it will let you know if theres any potential incompatibilities between components (but it doesnt catch everything). useful if youre a bit inexperienced or want to keep track of multiple different builds at once. you can also use it to share your lists with others for them to review

-builds and parts for every budget. all the parts within a given "tier" will work together. some of the guides are a bit old/in progress, but the main page is up to date with current hardware


I am looking at reviews but very few ppl seem to agree on anything hence the confusion for a non-enthusiast such as me
Being knowledgeable about these things is a full-time job it seems

This is it so far




went for Seasonic Focus Plus 550 Gold instead of what i had before
how much power would you say is necessary to be safe? I dont know if pcpartpickers estimated wattage is reliable.


that psu should be perfectly suitable for that build, as far as i can tell anyway. 750w was definitely overkill


The motherboard hasn’t been out for long, it’s making me anxious that issues are going to pop up sooner or later…
This one MSI B450 GAMING is much cheaper than the 570, and apparently can fit a 3600…


What if I keep the monitor at 60 or 75hz?
And thoughts on tn/va/ips?


Im a lot more confused now, ive seen comments saying that 60hz is obsolete and one should go for 144hz even if gaming at 60fps and each display technology seems to have signifcant drawbacks with no one agreeing on a decent middle ground
Its starting to piss me off


Some other anon asked before, what games do you want to play? Do you have a list? If you just want to play "all the new stuff" without having any specific insterests than you'll regret it spending too much money on a new computer.


Mostly console games like dmc5, yakuza, some demanding indies like kenshi, risk of rain 2, upcoming releases like outer worlds…


Compromised on the cpu to get a much stronger gpu but i might just go with a vega 56 or 1660ti instead. Not sure about the motherboard.



These are micro and mini atx or itx motherboards fit for a ryzen 2600
suggestions? Reliability is key here
I went with a micro atx case cause it would fit better where I plan to put it


yeah, older am4 motherboards can fit the 3000 series, but the older ones may need a bios update before they can use them. meaning you would need an older am4 cpu to update the bios, and THEN add in the 3000 cpu. hence why i would recommend a 500 series motherboard if you're going for 3rd gen ryzen. i have heard that amd has "kits" available, with like an older cpu that you can use to update your bios, but i don't know much about it

i stand by what i said earlier, 144hz is a luxury purchase. i advise you just go for 1080p 60fps, it looks great, and especially if you're on a budget, you can put your cash towards buying parts that let you actually run games at that speed and resolution

5700 xt gives better performance than 2060 super for similar price


also small cases tend to be a bit of a pain to build in. idk if you're building it yourself but i'm unsure if that cpu cooler would fit easily. the 2600's stock cooler is pretty good, you probably don't need an aftermarket cooler unless you're planning to overclock the cpu


I think I am going with the msi b450m mortar or mortar titanium, i have yet to figure out a difference between the two besides a few bucks
500 motherboards are more expensive and bigger and newer, what if one of the entry level i buy acts up?

>>46356 has said to wait to purchase a 5700, and im not sure it would fit inside a micro atx case anyhow… nvidias being cooler in general is enticing too…

I could go for the bigger case (meshify design c instead of tg) but id rather have a smaller one I think, I don’t have that much space to work with, in my room i mean.


Bummer. Will the stock cooler really suffice? Summers can be very hot here and I don’t have AC, so I’d rather be on the safe side.


it's fine to get an older motherboard, unless you want a 3000 series cpu, then you might need to update the bios with an old cpu before you can use it. if you can make that happen, by all means do it

i mean, what kind of temperatures are we talking? the wraith spire is a pretty decent cooler


I don’t think im gonna go for the 3000 series and im unlikely to tinker with the motherboard no…
I don’t understand what you mean by updating the bios with an old cpu? Wouldn’t the 2600 do the trick? Ahain not like im gonna attempt that, just curious.

inside? at the worst of a heat wave like the one we’ve had, 30 degrees, maybe higher


yeah, i obviously can't say for absolutely 100% certain - but i am pretty sure you will be fine with the stock cooler

what i said about updating the bios only applies if you want to use a 3000 series cpu. yes you could update it with the 2600. anything older than 3000 series would work, as long as it fits in the socket

you can read more about it here


Aaaah so that’s why retailers are offering to update bios on their websites, I had no idea it was a sort of semi-complicated process so i naively thought to myself “who the hell will pay for this” lol…


yeah, i'm still on a 1600 with a 300 series motherboard, so i've already got the update for when i want to get my 3700x. as far as i can tell, that's the sort of case this backwards compatibility is for - not people who are just getting this socket for the first time, because it just adds some extra steps. although it could probably still end up being cheaper

personally i agree that the new motherboards are largely untested, i would wait until september or so if i was gonna buy one


you should tell me these things tbh i can take every bit of advice i can get

and now im wondering if 3600 + custom cooler with upgraded older motherboard would fit inside a micro atx case. Is there such a gap between 2600 and 3600?


see for yourself:

the single-core and quad-core performance are the important factors for most games. it should be noted that prior to the 3000 series, intel had a fair edge in single-core performance. but now, that gap has all but closed to within a few percentage points, which is one of the reasons why there's so much hype around these new processors


As a layman I struggle to make sense of this information. What I want to know is: is the price to quality ratio better or not?


if you go to the "value and sentiment" section you can see an estimated value - the 3600 has a few percentage points advantage


I apologize. My reply must have come off as rude.

ignore the warning, the motherboard is updated.


not at all, i'm not so easy to offend

that list lgtm, if you can verify the cpu cooler will fit, otherwise you may want to find another. you may also have trouble fitting the gpu in, it's a long card - but if pcpartpicker says it's ok, you can probably manage it

you can probably drop down to 550w psu if you want to save a few bucks


Not sure i trust pcpartspicker for the size, ill see with local retailers, and thanks for chiming in about the psu, ill prolly grab a 550w


oh and do you use case fans?


my case has good airflow and came with plenty of fans, so yes i do use them, but i didn't get any more than what my case came with (i think there are four or so)


Cooler advice for the 3600? Not OCking, but id like it cool and quiet anyway.



Do you use that one?


no, it's just a well regarded aftermarket cooler

i use the stock cooler that came with my 1600, and i'll probably use the stock cooler when i get my 3700x as well


Memory: single rank or dual rank?


i think this should be it
On the fence about the psu as ive read the vega 56 needs a lot more power than the numbers seem to suggest

The motherboards bios is going to be updated, ignore the incompatibility warning

There are two stock fractal design box fans in the case: on in the back one in the front, is this good enough?

I have yet to come to a conclusion regarding the monitor
heard some good things about
but idk really, yeah the curve is a silly gimmick i could do without


>On the fence about the psu as ive read the vega 56 needs a lot more power than the numbers seem to suggest
no harm in getting a psu with extra wattage, but its probably unnecessary

>There are two stock fractal design box fans in the case: on in the back one in the front, is this good enough?

it would probably be adequate, you may wish to add a couple more if it's hot where you live

monitor looks fine if a bit pricey


i'll blogpost a bit about my situation here, it feels like an okay place to do it.

i ordered a 3700x from an online retailer. in the past i usually used amazon for my purchases, but amazon sellers seem to be marking up their prices to a ridiculous degree for the new cpus. plus, i don't know how much i can trust them. the retailer i went with is best buy, because i trust them to be selling legit cpus more than some random amazon seller, and they were actually offering the pieces at msrp which is a huge boon.

with luck, i should receive my order tomorrow. i am planning to do an os change after i've installed it, from windows 7 to gentoo linux. i think linux gaming is at a state i am comfortable with. this timing coincides nicely with the new proton release by valve.

if i remember, i will report back when the cpu arrives. the hardware installation should be quick, but the os install i expect to take a while. i don't have to go to work tomorrow, but i do on saturday, so i can't stay up too late setting everything up. i won't be able to update you during the os install obviously. i'm going to install the chip into an asus x370 board, so we will see how the backward-compatibility works out, and test out linux performance to boot.

hopefully i will post again tomorrow saying that it arrived, and then sometime over the weekend saying that the os install was successful.


well, there was a delay in shipment, which i had already known could happen. they predict that my order should be fulfilled within the week. seems like stock is really quite limited among various retailers. oh well, more time to plan out the gentoo path i guess.


What case are you using by the way?


i am currently using a phanteks enthoo primo. it's a full tower case that i got to replace my old enthoo luxe, which started to degrade over the years. the primo is much nicer, but it was also a fair bit more expensive.


it has arrived. everything appears to be in order. time for the installation. will update in a few days or so hopefully.


I'm getting a big chunk of change soon and might upgrade. I don't think I need to, I future proofed big time 7 years ago and I think only now is the CPU, RAM or MoBo are dying. Could be some virus I stupidly got that is causing the higher CPU and memory usage.

If I do buy I'll probably skip getting a new GPU right away. My 1060 I got gifted a couple years back still does the job just fine. Are SSDs worth it or are they a meme? I heard they are good for OS but use a standard HDD for storage, films, games etc.


I’m glad I havent bought a b450 msi board and a 3xxx cpu. Seems like I’ve dodged a bullet with the latest bios disaster. They are going to release “max” versions of their mobos natively compatible with the aforementioned ryzen cpus, but im wondering why not go with a newer 570 board, but the prices are ridiculous and the reviews are not exactly reassuring.

Are price drops for some gpus likely as manufacturers release newer and better 5700 in the coming weeks?


aaand done, just putting the finishing touches on the gentoo setup. so i'm back, confirming that the installation of the 3700x in the asus x370 mobo worked out just fine. not only that, but i'm running the latest linux kernel and gcc. i have heard there was some systemd boot issue on newer linux distros with the new ryzen chips, but it doesn't affect me since i don't use systemd. (it's probably patched already anyway.) the performance of this cpu is great. for example, i compiled firefox in roughly 14 minutes. i can't remember exactly what it was like on the 1600 since it's been a while since i last used gentoo, but i would guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-40 minutes.

anyway, the fact that i got the full gentoo installation, kde and all, with all the bells and whistles running in about a day's worth of work, is a pretty good indicator of how fast this cpu is, and i wasn't exactly rushing either. i just launched slay the spire on steam, it appears to be running fine after i installed xrandr. all my mods and stats carried over from windows, great!

now, i feel i should offer fair warning, my 3700x stock cooler, the wraith prism, did not come with the brackets needed to mount it on the motherboard. this was a big surprise to me, i was in the middle of installing it on the motherboard, checking and rechecking the packaging, wondering why they weren't there. i was worried i'd have to put the old cpu back in, order brackets from amazon, wait a few days… anyway, i luckily found some brackets that i had lying around in the "parts box." maybe they came with the motherboard back when i bought it… can't remember. but make sure you have mounting brackets for the cpu cooler if you're planning to go for a similar setup as i did! speaking of which, the temperatures seem decent, something like 47c while sitting on the bios screen. yes it's a little high, but it's rather hot where i live, and no a/c.

maybe next month i'll go for a 5700 xt… here's hoping there will be some good custom designs available. for now, back to tinkering with gentoo and testing some games.


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ordered the damn thing at last, idk when I’ll get it. Won’t go into details about the specs since I don’t want to be told I shoulve waited or bought sooner or what
Now im still researching monitors and 27” would be nice, I think?
Blogging again. Ignorance truly is bliss when it comes to choosing peripherals like monitors or headphones, keyboards or even fucking mouse pads. Enthusiast communities and reviews are making me mad, they are never satisfied with anything but the most niche, most expensive products, if that. I mean I know it’s the whole point of these things but I hate myself for overthinking so much, and when I do settle for something, I start thinking I haven’t thought it over enough. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t.


i think if you set a search filter for IPS + 75hz there would be only a few options and LG would be the cheapest but good.


I was told 144hz and above is the bee’s knees or something.


Pretty much this. Get an IPS or VA, avoid TN-panels. Personally I still use my Dell U2711 from 2011, which is 1440p and 60hz. So I don't really have any experience with higher refresh rates but I hear people say it's nice for gaming, especially fps. I like having the extra screen realestate and clearity in games that 1440p brings, but remember it's more taxing on your hardware to run games at that resolution. I currently use a 1070 and i5 6600k and haven't had any issues with the games I play.


There’s a special place in hell for whoever names these stupid monitors. Like, you have the XR27GeU3Vha and the XR27GeU3Vho and they’re completely different monitors, while the XR27GeU4Vhh is merely a refresh of the former :^)))))

Seriously what is it with CONSUMER electronics and these nonsensical names AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Also if you know of good keyboards please do tell. Idk what’s trendy with kids these days, mechanical cherry sixty percent or whatev. Overpriced marketing gimmicks?


call me a stick in the mud but i am still standing behind 1080p@60fps. even playing games with 1440p@60fps, you need a pretty expensive gpu in order to hit that target for ALL games with maxed out settings (yeah, most games especially older ones will be fine, and you can always turn down settings). i realized this recently when playing 2016's hitman - i have a gtx 1070 and it wasn't able to stablize at 60fps 1080p when i maxed out the settings. new games can apparently be pretty taxing, even on "good midrange" gpus from a few years back like the 1070. for my part, i would rather play a game on ultra quality, 1080p60; rather than medium quality, 1440p60. let alone the higher refresh rates.

if you don't plan on playing graphically demanding or new titles, then i will grant you that you can probably have 1440p60 as a minimum target with a decent modern midrange gpu. but if you plan on playing those kinds of games- you probably want to go to the "higher end" of the midrange at least, maybe something like rx 5700xt, or gtx 2070 super. imo 1080p60 still looks great and i wouldn't splurge on anything higher if i had a limited budget.

what kind of keyboard do you like? mechanical kinds? older kinds? quiet? tactile, ergonomic? it all depends on your preferences. i use a unicomp keyboard because i like the way it feels


Doesn’t 60fps on 144hz with freesync or gsync look better than 60 on a <144hz monitor?

I’ve used cheap generic keyboards all my life, the kind you get with prebuilt pcs so im utterly clueless. The one I’ve owned for the last dozen years for instance is a ps/2 thingy, idk if they still make those.
I’d like something silent, reliable and ergonomic, and that’s about it..


and it’s not like im against 1080p it’s just that from what ive gathered it’s ill suited to 27” monitors


you can get a freesync monitor that's 60hz too.

yeah, but do you need that kind of monitor? why would, say, a 23" monitor not be large enough?


I can’t tell. Ive got a 19” and it’s getting tiresome with my poor eyesight. I often find myself leaning forward when im reading.
freesync or gsync compatibility on a 60hz sounds rather pointless


as far as i can tell, the main draw of freesync and gsync is to reduce screen tearing and stuttering, which it would accomplish just fine on a 60hz monitor. what is it that it can only do on 144hz?

>Ive got a 19” and it’s getting tiresome with my poor eyesight. I often find myself leaning forward when im reading.

i dont know if upgraded resolution and monitor size solves this problem, in fact i noticed when upgrading res that often text and icons seem to become even smaller, at least out of the box. maybe you should look to dpi settings, or zoom function


Looking for a replacement for my mouse. been using a mx 518 since… 2008 I think… what do you guys have?


zowie ec1-a, the only mouse i've found so far that doesnt hurt my hand after using it all day, i've had it for a few years. i tried a number of other mouses but they would all have problems; weird curvature, too small for my hand, poor quality control. this mouse has no such problems

in my experience mouse hunting is a long process, especially when you can't physically try them due to buying online. but at least now i know i can just get another one of the same if this one goes kaput


Some $10 wireless 4 button mouse from amazon.
Works well enough, as I ain't some pro level gamer so the .0001 ms latency has never effected my gaming experience.


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Logitech G403, it's pretty good and the comfiest mouse I've used. Bit pricey, but I got it on sale.


Looks a lot like my mouse only with better build quality.
How much was it?


It's on Amazon for $46 now, regular price $69.99. I believe the price was the same here in Europe, but I got it for around $30 which was well worth it.


More then I usually spend, but does look like it is actually worth the extra money.
Might get one if my current one breaks.


Ty. I dont suppose theres any difference between hero and prodigy, one is cheaper than the other


Soz for spamming I kinda feel like I already know the answer to the question im gonna ask but anyway, are mouse pads important at all, or can I like grab an amazon basic one and be done with it.


The fuck?
As long as the mouse-pad is the right size for the kind of games you are playing then it is usually fine, or at most a matter of personal preference. Ones that are longer with wise are good for FPS games, especially if you are doing precision shooting with a lower DPI setting.
What does matter is proper spelling and grammar.
Act you age wizkid. You ain't a 9 year old, don't type like one. At least not here.


Alright alright I apologise.
And cheers for the help.


actually i will say you should at least check the reviews. they can be made of shitty material or smell like chemicals really bad or not lay flat on the desk. it might seem silly but there are things that could go wrong if you just buy the cheapest mousepad you see


You know, I think you’re right after all. While I will have a 2070s I do wish to keep it for as long as possible, so 1080p does sound like the most sensible choice. That was the plan initially, compromise on resolution and save money on both the monitor, and the gpu (in the long run that is). From my perspective, it will be a significant upgrade anyhow, and besides I should not be swayed so easily by people raving about the benefits of the latest trends in hardware, or I’ll end up making up reasons to purchase a set of 4k monitors or God knows what.


Mine's a prodigy. Hero seems to be a newer model.

I use a regular SteelSeries QcK mousepad, it was the cheapest non-shit alternative at the time. It holds up well, lays flat in place and doesn't stink so I'd recommend that over most cheap ones. SteelSeries was behind that retarded Bully Hunters shit last year though, so I'd probably buy something else today. I guess most mousepads from the gaming brands are pretty much the same.


anything I should know before i first boot up the computer and install windows
like, unplugging the storage disk beforehand to make sure it is untouched by windows during the installation
never gave much of a shit about this sort of stuff before tbh but might as well do it properly from the very beginning this time


idk, i would just throw everything together and then try to boot it

are you worried about your storage being overwritten by os install? i would just use custom partitions to make sure it doesn't get touched, but i guess keeping it unplugged works too

can't think of much, i guess just make sure you have all the drivers you need especially for networking. also if it's windows 7 there probably won't be usb3 drivers, so make sure you have a way to deal with that (i think windows 10 is fine in that regard though, which i assume you'll be using 10). if you will be using windows updates, take care of security updates and that sort of thing before you do any internet stuff. well i never ran windows 10 at home so this is all generic advice. oh, and if you use virtual machines you may need/want to enable cpu virtualization in the bios.


what about the motherboard bios should I flash it or update it or w/e it’s called
is ram overclocking/tuning something worth looking into, I’ve seen lots of people say you benefit from doing it with amd’s cpu


yes to flashing the bios. it can be free performance/compatibility fixes depending on your setup

you can try to overclock the ram, and maybe eke out a few extra fps from it. personally, i never bothered, because the gains are so small from overclocking many things compared to the potential instability, at least nowadays. if you do feel like trying it though, make sure you run memtest86 after (it's a free tool you can obtain online). and check what sort of results other people have gotten from your hardware.


Cheers mate
Got the monitor, only messed around on the desktop for a few mins but it looks pretty nice out of the box. Ill have to tinker with the settings later I suppose. I was pretty anxious it would be defective or have major flaws but so far so good… as far as I can tell, that is. A monitor enthusiast might get anal and send it back for a flaw I would not even be able to notice lol, but tbh at this point I wouldn’t bother… still a massive upgrade from the piece of shit I used till then…


i didn't know my internet connection was that fast until i moved on to ssd, holy shit
speaking of which, should i use w10 to clean them and defragment them every once in a while, or is it unnecessary? i really don't know the dos and don'ts for these devices. got an nvme and a regular one


nope, no need to defrag ssds, it could even decrease the longevity of your device


can i use the windows 10 disk cleaning software thingy then?


i don't know about that tool because i don't use windows 10. if it's just clearing unused/temporary files or whatever then i suppose it's fine, make sure it doesn't delete anything you need though

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