game is great, fanbase is cancer though.
-saccharine "power of friendship" story
-memes/pop culture references
Deltarune improved on some of these things (aside from being even shorter than undertale) and yet it had less of an impact on me
I would like to see toby make a single, 30-hour-long rpg with lots of exploration and worldbuilding but I think the most we can expect a short, linear movielike experience in the vein of Deltarune.
Could you give me and example on how it's pandering?
>>53111>furry characters>gay characters>lesbian characters>nonbinary protagonist>implied FTM character>ironic weebshit
deltarune kind of cast all of this aside from what i can remember
I think you're asking for the game to become some typical triple AAA prefabricated trash.
>>53110>I would like to see toby make a single, 30-hour-long rpg with lots of exploration and worldbuilding
Isn't it just one guy?
Do you know how much fucking work that is for one person?
I guess what I mean is, I would like to see an installment in the Undertale series actually live up to the title of being a spiritual successor to Earthbound. To achieve that, it needs more substance and exploration. I don't care if it means Toby has to accept the help of a few trusted people.
I think that's just unfortunately how things are nowadays.
>I think that's just unfortunately how things are nowadays.
yeah, we're in a time where everything has to sasisfy every possible group.
The pandering kind of fits in with the anime theme of the game, I guess. Anime has included LGBT characters for a long time now. I still think it was mainly Toby trying to appease his patrons. One patron in particular was such a blemish on the game that he hid his OC away in an impossible-to-discover location.
Well, you're asking for the game to be this typical corporate crap in which the content is made with a checklist in mind. Because "oh, is has to have these things because every normalgroid thing has it". While the game is good because how special it feels.
My opinion is subjective and if I had been the one to make Undertale, probably nobody would have played it. It is, in essence, a short-story driven game with an anime plot (which is apparently what the world wanted).
I liked it, it had some kind of charm to it, genocide route was more fun for obvious reasons, took me a few tries to kill Sans because I'm bad at games.
Sucks about the furry shit, people complain about the "fandom" but I don't participate in any fandoms so I wouldn't know.
>>53118> Anime has included LGBT characters for a long time now.
played it when it first came out. i found it annoying and not fun
Do not conflate LGBT illness with BL pandering.
It's faggotry and degeneracy.
Yes, it is. And the thing is the japanese know this, while LGBT is an attempt to promote and normalize it.
>>53128>japanese know this, while LGBT is an attempt to promote and normalize it
lol, stop acting like japanese are some le epic based anti-jews, they suffer the same crap we do here in the west. To even say yuri on ice isn't homocrap propaganda is ridiculous.
I never said anything related to jews. They just know that it's all fetish crap.
I enoyed the humour and gameplay. I got up to Undyne? (succufish) and couldnt win. Might play again. I imagine the protagonist is a female. Not touching the fandom community with a 10 foot ethernet cable.>>53129
nips aren't pushing the lgbtqsa2÷ on children though. it's accesible, sure, but schools aren't having kids write essays on how they want to marry their classmates of the same sex
I respect the ambition of the guy who made it and think the music is great but hate everything else about it, nothing personal just not my thing
>>53132>I got up to Undyne
Killing her is pretty straight forward. Just git gud and don't die.
But sparing her I needed a guide because it's anything but straight forward and I wouldn't have figured it out if I didn't use a guide.
>>53132>I imagine the protagonist is a female
It's supposedly "ambiguous" enough that you can self insert if you're a male or female. But I agree with you, it's a succubus
Am i the only one who can't play as a female no matter what the game is? I simply cannot. It feels unnatural. Used to play many h-games where protagonist was a female though, but that was just to jerk off to h-scenes, playing as female seriously simply takes away all the fun for from the game for me. I do play Overwatch as female characters sometimes, but thats it. I have not completed any game that forces female protagonist, ever.
Normalfaggots seem very different, for example. I mean, videogames are fantasy worlds where people can fantasize about being someone else, a powerful warlock or something similiar, living lives as fantasy characters and yet normals chose succubi characters because 'they don't like staring at mens butts'. What the fuck is this explanation? When I play games I don't stare at my characters butt, i am him. That is why it feels weird to play as succubi. I am not one, neither I wish to be. Guess there are different types of player mentalities.
Some people just don’t self insert very hard.
When I play games usually unless it's first person I view the character as a puppet or tool I use to interact with the game world.
I feel no need to self insert at all so playing as whatever doesn't bother me as long as it responds to my inputs properly.
Well, seems like my gaming escapism is stronger. When I play games I simply disappear from this world and dive into the setting i'm playing.
I like playing games were you're a succubus, but only if they are cute.
And I like playing games were you're an incubus, but only if they are cool.
So you perceive all game events from outside perspective, which is different when you self-insert like me. Whatever floats our boats I guess.
If I am really into a game "I" looses focus and it is just manipulating the game using the tools available.
I mean do you just not play games that aren't character focused?
Like puzzle games or strategy games?
Nope, my favorites games are the ones that are character heavy. So I feel very inmersed in the world and in-character when I play them. The game on the OP of this thread is a good example of one I think.
I replay the genocide route sometimes. It's easily my favorite part of the game.
Gameplay: It's fun some of the time. Mostly during boss battles. Omega flowey, Sans and undyne the undying's fights were the high points. Pacifist is the most boring route, despite being the true ending.
Story: Generic. Maybe if the game was longer they could've actually done something interesting with it.
Characters: Pretty annoying. I like some of them.
Music: Maybe i've just heard it too much, but it's gotten boring for me. Prefer deltarunes ost (I like deltarune more in general.)
I haven't play it yet, but so many people like this game. But I watch screenshots and after watching do not want to play because it looks so uninteresting. I know that make opinion only looked at screenshots is not good idea (barony too looks like a shit, but it's good game). So can you tell me why this game so good?
It is refreshingly unique and most of the different or creative things it does is actually pulled off.
I agree with the first post, but really due to all of the tropes in this game that many indy games have, I would consider it plenty pre-fabricated. The cons listed are what make it and many indie games extremely pre-fabricated and stale.
the game is very good but the people who play it are idiots
people who play it =/= the dumb elements of the fandom
I played if for 4 hours after reading this thread. It became stale very fast due to the constant witticisms and gags.
For me pacifist and neutral are far more fun than genocide. I love the emotions and story in genocide but I hate grinding for encounters
Played this on release date, which I almost never do. I was expecting cheap indie bullshit, but found it was well made and interesting. I'm really glad I played it before the hype because the fanbase is extremely cringy and I probably would have avoided it on that basis alone.
For me it just hurt all the more watching something I enjoyed being perversely fucked with.
Yeah, I feel you. I had a similar experience with mspaintadventures. I liked the dumb, quirky comedy of Problem Sleuth, but when Homestuck got big with a cringy fanbase of ultra-horny teens, I felt embarrassed for myself. Maybe it is something about media in the Andrew Hussie / Toby Fox style that is good, but is also irresistible to cringe.