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 No.57907

I never played JRPGs back in the day, so I decided to give these a try after playing a few modern ones and liking them quite a bit. They were very highly rated everywhere and were exactly what I was looking for. But, I didn't like either one. In fact, I thought they were incredibly mediocre, and I dropped both 6-8 hours in. Even trying to think from others' perspectives, I cannot understand what makes either one special at all, and that's rare for me. Can someone please try to explain what they liked about either? If I relate, I'll give a few other retro JRPGs a try, otherwise I'll just conclude the genre isn't for me.

 No.57908

Try Lufia 2, Legend of Legaia, or Grandia 2

 No.57909

JRPGs are kinda two chains deep. First you need to like RPGs, then you need enjoy anime visuals and designs. They're usually not particularly richer mechanics-wise comparing to regular RPGs but have a very particular visual style and the plot also tends to get closer to anime storytelling. So if you like that stuff, you would definitely enjoy JRPGs. Also, it helps if you don't mind getting grindy at times. I like it and played many, many titles. My favorites are probably Dragon 7th, Dragon Quest V, Panzer Dragoon Saga and Pokemon games.

It's probably an acquired taste but if you don't care about rpgs nor the types of designs Japanese usually media goes for, then I think it will take you a long time to start to enjoy it, if ever.

 No.57911

>>57909
>Dragon 7th
Interesting. Which do you recommend for a beginner to the series? I see there's one on the DS, two on the PSP and one on 3DS.

 No.57912

>>57911
The one for the DS is by far my favorite in the series. It's grindy though, if you're not looking to shut your brain down for hours at a time by killing hordes of monsters, you'll get bored pretty fast.

 No.57914

>>57912
Thanks. I played a little bit and it looks promising. I wish the characters would walk faster though…

>>57907
What were these modern ones that you liked? I like JRPGs but don't particularly enjoy FF6 or Chrono Trigger either.

 No.57922

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>>57914
So are you still playing it? You made me go back and check my file, I put 134 hours into it before calling it quits.

 No.57943

>>57922
Yeah I like it, thanks. Current party is Knight - Fighter - Rogue (bow) - Healer

I thought a rogue would be essential as they often are in these dungeon crawlers for their sheer utility, but that does not seem to be the case here. With only four party members and the high encounter rate I am not sure it would be wise to have a second caster. I'll see how it goes until I hit a wall or feel like experimenting with some other classes or builds, if I have the patience for it.
Anyway I've defeated my first boss, I hope the rest of the game is not as linear as the first few hours.

 No.57959

>>57907
What did you play and what kinds of games do you generally like? Honestly CT and FF6 are highly overrated, but I have a lot of nostalgia for them.

 No.57960

Nah man, if you don't like em you don't like em. No explanation can fill that part in, just don't bother.
I think they're great, especially the older simpler ones like early FF and DQ.

 No.57961

try earthbound

 No.57974

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OP why won't you respond

 No.57975

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Do some of you feel ashamed when playing certain games? I do. I like to play Train sim games, Euro truck simulatior and Microsoft Flying Simulator. When i play these games, i always go on "Hidden" mode on steam. Sometime i play "popular" and "normal" games like Chivalry 2 and Workes and Resources so it doesn't show Last online 18 days ago. I even put my account on private. Do you wizards do the same?

>pic unrelated

 No.57978

>>57975
the only games I play on hidden mode are games like CS:GO and Dota 2 because I don't want anyone to invite me to play

 No.57979

>>57975
>Feeling ashamed due to playin certain things
Yes. I did restrain myself from doing very lovable activities during my teens due to this embarrasment of unknown origin.

Today I play things like Harry Potter (GBA emulators) or Doom and Destiny (phone) while my normie fellows out there deliver theirselves to booze, drugs and punching each other for succubi. Peer pressure is a mental disease.

 No.57981

>>57975
I don't have any friends on steam so there was never a need. I also don't think there are embarrassing steam games other than hentai or certain Asian games. I'm specifically talking about games where the main protagonist is a cute anime succubus.

 No.58024

>>57975
Normalfag post

 No.58026

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>>57975
>I like to play Train sim games, Euro truck simulatior and Microsoft Flying Simulator.
>Sometime i play "popular" and "normal" games like Chivalry 2 and Workes and Resources
There's literally nothing wrong with any of those, if anything Chivalry and WRSR are more niche than either Euro Truck Simulator or MSX so you got it backwards

 No.58128

>>57922
man the way quests work in this game really pisses me off. Like, having to talk to every single NPC in town until you find some who've got work for you so it becomes available in the guildhouse or whatever, and then you have to go to the NPCs again anyway to get them to brief you on what to do. Did anyone test this and thought it was ok to require so many steps for something so basic, like why have an intermediary at all. And you can only have three quests active at the same time, why this bullshit limitation, all it does is waste your time, cancelling and re-accepting them over and over again.

Still a fun and addictive game despite all that and other baffling crap that make it tedious at times, but that's japanese game design for you.

btw should I hold onto the items dropped by bosses or is it safe to sell them?

 No.58181

>>57907
after playing the good CRPGs like BG2 or Planescape Torment it's impossible to go back to JRPGs, they just feel so lacking in comparison

 No.58184

>>58181
Planescape is not too dissimilar to many of the most popular mainstream jrpgs: linear, shallow gameplay, character/narrative driven… not a very good example of the genre.

 No.58187

Most of the BEST GAMES EVER are heavily nostalgia driven and second hand knowledge. FF6 is a chore to play because it's story is broken into multiple perspectives and parties so it flows poorly. Chrono's combat system is a bad hybrid of real time and turn based so it feels awkward when we have better ones.

Remember people used to think FF7 and Zelda 64 were THE BEST GAMES EVER and now it's Mario 64. All of them have serious issues but youtubers repeat the meme and a lie repeated enough looks like the truth.

If you want good JRPGs look to final fantasy spin offs. The core line funded the spin offs but the spin offs are where interesting things happened.

 No.58406

>>57907

I only played chrono trigger because of the music, akira toriyama's art, and because everyone said it was great.

I liked the characters and it had some great moments, but it's not the best rpg ever (like everyone says)

it's still not something exciting to play like pokemon, which is a sort of sandbox full of endless options and where you interact with other people, even if the game is finished, leveling up your characters has a sense and reason to be, to continue socializing and having fun collecting pokemon, but in chrono trigger it's a plain linear story.

final fantasy 6 is even worse, because your characters can't even walk faster or run lol, the best jrpg ever is pokemon, especially if you can play it online (pokemmo)

 No.58407

>>58406
even if this is sarcastic, it's still mostly correct lmao. next pokemon game will be full of trannies and yet the multiplayer will still be better than any other contemporary JRPG.

 No.58411

>>58407
how many jrpgs have multiplayer modes?

 No.58412

>>58411
Do MMOs count as JRPGs?

 No.58423

JRPGs are just bad video games. In JRPGs you neither roleplay, nor is there any fun gameplay. Always a linear game where nothing you do actually matters in regards to story or dialog, and the gameplay comes down to grinding exp so your stats win for you. Worst genre of all time.

The closest they got to having better gameplay are the """"tactical"""" JRPGs. At least you have to somewhat think about how you play in those.

 No.58425

/v/ ^

 No.58427

>>58425
If that is the quality they have over there is not strange that board ended up dead.

 No.58429

>>58425
>>58427
Its not wrong though.

 No.58431

>>58429
You will need to try a bit better than that to get easy (You)s.

 No.58432

I didn't even make it past a couple hours with final fantasy 7. It's just like pokemon but not turn based and also you don't get to collect pokemon. Why the fuck would that be fun? How is selecting attacks and shit from a menu fun?

 No.58433

>>58431
I'm sorry but its not bait, You don't roleplay in jrpgs, you don't influence the story in jrpgs, the gameplay is thoughtless and ultimately just comes down to grinding out some stats, and honestly the genre just fails to be a good video game most of the time.

The newer games seem to take more and more from action games, and yet whats the end result? A game with barely passable gameplay that still has no roleplaying, no story influence, and grinding out stats still overides a lot of the gameplay.

I understand why people play CRPGS, and I can understand why people play action games, but JRPGS I will never get.

 No.58435

oh look he's trying the same tactic in this thread too



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