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 No.38935[Last 50 Posts]

I've seen some discussion on it in the hobby tiers thread, and I have a gut feeling I'm not the only one who's practicing.

What do you do? Do you practice your art for fitness, for a feeling of security without having to wall yourself in? For other reasons?

 No.38938

I did a form of hapkido but now I am not currently in any gym/class because of my lifestyle and low funds.

I mainly practiced for self defense reasons, but also because it is a fun hobby that I have been interested in since childhood.

Would like the chance to do boxing, judo, combat sambo, and escrima.
Would also be interested in recreational/amateur MMA.

 No.38943

when I was 13 years old I got into bruce lee movies. This was a motivation for me and so I started practicing karate in middle school. Got to the violet belt and then quit. Did not do any fitness for about 7 years and then started again in 2014.

I am not in any classes anymore but I ride on my bike to a park, do my exercises there (pushups, leg raises, rope jumping, some karate techniques I still remember) and when I am done I go home again.

My goal was to develop a similar physique like Bruce Lee but I realized that you need to dedicate 5 hours every single day for this and practice until you fall down of exhaust. Obviously I have no willpower for this but I did lose some weight since I started again.
I also feel like it helps with my back pain and it kind of slows down the degeneration of my body.

 No.38952

Martial arts has nothing to do with self-defense.

 No.38959

>>38952
Sure thing buddy.

 No.38961

>>38959
How effective is it against a gun?

 No.38962

>>38961
Pretty good. You can draw your own gun faster

 No.38963

>>38935
I've been dreaming about taking up Aikido my whole life. Ended up never doing it though for various reasons at different points (no club in town/no time/no money/depression/etc).

Attended Wushu club for several months when I was about 14. But ended up dropping out when some chads enlisted and started ridiculing me (I was slightly overweight back then).

 No.38964

>>38959
Lol. Martial arts is a sport, not a self-defense technique. In a real fight what matters is raw size and strength. The guy who's bigger and stronger usually wins. A 5'5" Asian midget with all the training in the world will get pummeled by a 6'3" white chad who knows how to land punches and pummel you to the floor.

 No.38965

>>38964
Most martial arts teach about pressure points where even the biggest guys can fall.

>who knows how to land punches


I'm pretty sure most MA also teach about defensive and evasive techniques. Most buff guys know shit about fighting, if you're fast enough and can land one good punch, the fight will be over in a second. Strength doesn't matter if you can't land a punch.

 No.38966

>>38965
Don't respond to such a blatant troll seriously.
It is just wasted time and effort.

 No.38970

>>38964
I thought wizardchan was above this kind of buffoonery……

 No.39000

>>38935
I've been doing Krav Maga for about a year (inb4 Krav Maga is a meme/MMA is the only thing you need).

I'm no expert in martial arts but it seems pretty good and I've definitely become a lot stronger and fitter.


My teacher is ex-British army and pretty cool. He was very honest about what we were learning explaining how certain techniques we were learning to spar with would never work against a well trained boxer/MMA fighter.

Krav Maga is for generic self defence; I would like to try something like Muay Thai one day.

 No.39001

>>38964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tzjcEgPWpM

Strength (and very importantly height) matters a lot, but as the video shows Chad body builders can get BTFO'd by jiu jitsu black belts.

 No.39004

>>39000
No martial art, provided its goal is self-defense, the teacher is a professional and also strives to communicate the spirit of the art, can be called a meme.

Obviously I'm saying this as someone who does tai chi.

 No.39009

>>38964
Lol I went to a gym and a short Asian guy knocked out a huge roid junky. It's not all about size and strength. Speed, technique as well.

 No.39070

Is there anything I can practice at home by myself without expensive equipment? I live in a 3rd world country, the idea of being unable to defend myself has been crippling my confidence for years but I never acted on it.

 No.39079

>>39070
Nothing that you could actually use with proficiency in the real world.

The truth of the matter is you at the very least need someone to train with.
Punching air does not teach you how to fight nor does it teach you anything about punching a person who doesn't want to be punched. And it really doesn't teach you how to not get punched while punching other person. And as far as stuff like grappling it should be fairly obvious that you need a partner for that.

 No.39080

>>39070
>at home
All of it.
>by myself
None of it.
>without expensive equipment
Almost all of it.

 No.39081

>>39079
I'd like to add that while practising by yourself is more or less useless at getting better at fighting, it is good exercise.
Being stronger and able to hit harder is an advantage even if your actual ability to land punches is not improved at all. Strength in a grapple is pretty important too.

 No.39218

i am about to enroll in a boxing gym.

the gym itself is located balls deep in the hood so there ought to be some strong fighters for sure

 No.39222

>>39070
Do what >>39079
Said also weightlifting and/or Calisthenics
Dont forget to bring an small knife whenever you go. in my country people let big dogs walking freely on the street without supervision And if it attacks you,martial arts will be useless because animals have complete diferente weak points and greater pain tolerance levels

 No.39229

>>39222
As long as you educate yourself on the basic anatomy martial arts can be applied to animals. That includes being able to use weapons much more effectively.

Although the one time I was attacked by a dog a swift kick and then hopping on a parked car was all that was needed to come out without a scratch.

 No.39242

I miss light sparring. Unlike hard sparring light sparring feels more like playing around and having fun thought martial arts. Hard sparring is is exhausting and painful, but it makes you a better fighter.
Really good pad work is a alternative that is exhausting but not painful and has way less risk of injury. To bad it is so hard to find people who are really good at it.

 No.39317

First tuishou lesson soon.

I don't mind the close contact, it's all professional. Still, the thought is a bit unsettling.

 No.39320

>>39317
You get used to it. In my experience it depends on context on if physical contact is uncomfortable or not.

A hug will make my skin crawl, but rolling around in knots with someone's ass in my face during ground work doesn't bother me at all.

>tuishou

I don't think I have heard of it. Looks like I have a few hours of research ahead of me.

 No.39321

>>39320
It is the Chinese name for push hands.

 No.39322

>>39320
Tai chi, two-player mode.

Somewhere between sparring and drill.

 No.39399

okay so aside from the trainer yelling at everyone after class for self-esteem reasons prompting me to leave mid-rant it was pretty fun

 No.39631

Currently working on a new style of foot work that is more weapon focused then my normal kickboxing foot work. It is really tricky to get usef to but I see the practicality of it.

Also thinking about making a coin pouch sap out of fabric and ducktape. Haven't worked out the final design but I know I want it to hold a full roll of quarters yet still fit nicely in my almost full pockets.

 No.39651

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>self-defense
I'm training the very best self-defense system there is: running.

 No.39653

>>39651
Actually the best self defense is and will always be situational awareness.
That said running is good exercise and I wish you luck and good health in your training.

 No.39672

My mild obsession with pocket sticks is back.
Trying to train to put much more body weight into hammer fist strikes.

 No.40802

A new karate (tang so do) place is opening up in my small town.
Only $60 a month so I am thinking of checking it out. Already have a martial arts background but it has been a year and a half since I was in a class/gym. I miss it, and as long as dude doesn't have his head up his ass it should be fun. Though I am worried how many times he said traditional over the phone. But he said there is sparring every class (fun) and he has 30 years teaching experience. Small class, and all adults and older teens.

 No.41266

>>40802
Massive disappointment.
They couldn't open because the building isn't up to code for a retail location.
Looks like it's back to shadow boxing alone in my room for me.
I was looking forward to the place opening for a month.

 No.41272

I used to do fencing when I was a kid but it got annoying because the blades they use are so flexible that it really becomes nothing like combat. Epee is somewhat better and rapier is pretty fun, but I still always just wished I could hit someone, so in middle school I started fantasizing about how to create a style of unarmed martial arts. I didn't exactly do it as an active hobby or anything, but every once and a while I would think about it and try out some punches. I find thinking about the best techniques and strategies to be pretty fun. A few years ago I asked for a punching bag for christmas and got it and started trying out techniques. I've never been able to do it regularly, just every once in a while when I have the energy, but even so I feel like I've gone as far as I can on my own and I want to start training for real with other people. Hopefully I can force myself to overcome my anxiety and do it. I think I should be able to handle the footwork pretty well because of fencing and badminton so I just need to figure out how to dodge and block and grapple. I think I'm going to start exercising now and go in a couple months assuming I can find my balls between then and now.

 No.42020

>>41266
Well the place opened this month and I have been going since the 5th
Total mcdojo but it is pretty fun and we do light sparing every class.
I feel like a big fish in a little pond though. It feels weird being a white belt having to correct and teach things to black belts.

 No.42029

Since so few here actually practice martial arts would anyone object to posting and discussing videos on the topic of martial arts?

 No.42033

>>38935
Whenever I try to train with people, I can't do it because my short term/working memory is very bad and I can't ever remember the proper sequence of events and it's very embarrassing to mess up over and over again the whole lesson and my partners are very frustrated especially when I don't hold the mitts for them properly. I wish I could just learn how to fight by sparring, but no place I've been to so far will let me spar without doing the lessons for a long time. Is there any specific type of place that would be more open to just letting me spar?

 No.42034

>>42033
That is what practice is for.
You get better at the things you do often. Building those neural pathways and muscle memory takes time. You can't realistically expect to be good at everything just starting out.
You have to persevere, that is one of the most important things in martial arts.

 No.42159

The place I am currently going is planing on having a demo.
Head instructor basically wants to use me and my previous martial arts skills to make him look better then he really is since I am the only guy he knows that can break fall on hardwood.
He really is a shitty teacher/instructor but I keep going because they have sparing at the end of each class and I love to spar. I just have to put up with a hour of bullshit to get to the good part is all.

 No.42207

I feel myself getting better from the constant sparing and doing drills on my own but I think I might be better off in the long run if I try and find a boxing or MMA gym closer to my work. I don't think the training methodology of tang so do is right for me, or the teacher just kinda all around sucks.

 No.42208

Sorry for turning this thread into a personal blog.

 No.42212

>>39653
Anything else that can be said about situational awareness? I feel like it should be a fundamental life skill, but the only folk who seem to have put any effort into it are military/some police.
Situational awareness could be a great skill for avoiding encounters and might lead to improved perception

 No.42214

>>39651

Why am i crying only for seeing Emi again?

 No.42223

Old championship from the late 60s

 No.42224

I always wanted to do martial arts, but all the instructors were assholes who yelled at you and made you yell out when you did things. Other people turn it into a social thing too. Is there any way to do it without these problems? Too late for me now I suppose as I can't really do anything face-to-face with people anymore

 No.42226

>>42224
Loud noises bother you but not all the physical contact that martial arts requires?
Weird.
What about martial arts interests you?

Something like tai chi or Aikido may be more your style.

 No.42230

LARPing is fun to beat up nerds and it's a way to pretend to be a mighty warrior and not a nerd yourself.

 No.42237

>>42230
Ok…
But this is not the RP thread nor is it about LARP. So you are in the wrong place.
If you want to talk about HEMA that would be welcome though.

 No.42289

Broke a couple of boards today.
First one was pretty easy (used a hammer fist from the side) but then my instructor wanted me to break one with a flying side kick. Took me 3 tries before I got it.
I will probably give this place another month or two. There arn't a lot of good options in my area and budget, and at least this place has sparing at the end of each class.`

 No.42308

The blog continues.

So today I found out that my instructor actually has far less control of kicks then I do. Was sparing today and he complained to me not to use ax and hook kicks because he didn't think they could be controlled properly in sparing.
I totally disagreed with him and knew from previous experience that they were very easy to control kicks. I then demonstrated this to him, showing him how I am able to pull the kick before contact, and use the ball of the foot rather then the heel to have more control of impact when contact is made (making it more of slapping the person with my foot rather then a blow that can injure). I then explained I only use kicks in sparing that I can control and gave a few examples of kicks that I don't use in sparing (mainly stuff like drop kicks and certain flying kicks). After I demonstrated how much control as well as the way I made contact with the ax kick and hook kick he agreed that I can use them in sparing as long as I was careful. He still banned me from using low and leg kicks, despite them technically being a staple of contact karate. He kept calling them sweeps despite them being totally different from sweeps. I will have to demonstrate the major difference to him some other day.
One battle at a time.

 No.42506

Posting a few vids.
Starting with this random one I came across.

 No.42508


 No.43063

Today I learned some basic stuff with the bokken. Felt awkward because I have shitty depth perception with my glasses off so I couldn't really tell the correct distancing and timing for blocking drills.

 No.43077

>>42508
Yeah traditional wing Chun sucks tbh. It just does not fucking work against serious Muay Thai/boxer/ MMA fighter.

 No.43080

>>42308
Neil?

 No.43083

>>43080
No, don't even know a Neil?

 No.43102

Really looking forward to trying out Brazilian Jiu-Jutsu this Summer; it is hands down the best grappling system. Also, unlike predominantly striking arts, it’s fairly safe.

Weapon based martial arts seem cool but also kinda cringy at times.

 No.43160

I feel feel bad about it but I just don't feel like going to class today.
I will probably regret it but I just mentally want to laze around all day since it is my day off.
Sad thing is I know for a fact that if I actually went, as soon as I started moving around I would get into it, but I just can't be bothered today to make the 7 mile trip, or even get ready to go.
Shit like this is why I will never be able to get to that "next level" and become a extraordinary martial artist.

 No.43161

>>43102
> it is hands down the best grappling system.
What is judo?
What is wrestling?

But really lets keep things civil and not start the whole my style is better then your style bullshit.
Also the risk of injury is still pretty high, but I do know what you mean especially when it comes to sparing. You can spar at nearly full force in ground grappling and still have full control and do it safely unlike with strike sparing. To spar at nearly full force in striking arts you ether need comical levels of equipment or really restrictive rules + months of body conditioning. Hurts a lot more too even if you don't get injured.
Still the worst injures I have from martial arts are actually repetitive stress injuries from training, which you can get from ether style of martial arts and many other physical activities.
Over all, listen to your body, be nice to your training partners and avoid try hards, and learn basic first aid (which you will probably mainly use on yourself to recover from minor training related shit).
Also relax, which I know is hard but you will benefit massively from it if you do. Hope you enjoy and stick with it. Happy training.

Don't have a lot of personal experience with weapons so I will leave that one alone.

 No.43186

>>43161
Don't forget Sambo

 No.43292

>>43186
Sambo is literally just judo and wrestling mixed together.

 No.43396

Actually got pretty winded in sparing today for the first time since I joined this new Dojang.
I think it is because I have been lazy the past few weeks. I changed jobs so I am not doing hard physical labor for work anymore and I haven't compensating to keep up my strength and endurance.
My next pay check I am getting some weights, sparing gear, and better more healthy food then I have been eating.
Time to quit being lazy and take my training to the next level when outside of class. My job is pretty physically easy so I don't have to worry about training too hard and having to recover.

 No.43417

Fun vid on Count Dante.

 No.43432

Just started muy thai. Very experienced instructors with techniques that would definitely work on the street (namely devastating kicks and elbow blows) Would definitely recommend this

 No.43440

>>43432
Good for you man.
Muay Thai is pretty great. I just wish it wasn't so over priced around here and that the local amateur scene was better. It seems like the only people around here that train it are tryhard dudebros and people who want to get into MMA, so it drives up the price and leave no one to create a stand up fight community locally. Have to go over 100 miles to even watch a amateur kickboxing match.

 No.43467

I train at an MMA gym but do mostly muay thai, because I prefer it to grappling and I’m a big fan of muay thai and kickboxing fights. Wrestling is pretty fun too, but grueling on the body,. I don’t like BJJ much as I tend to spend a lot of time just getting laid on by guys who are both heavier and more advanced when rolling. It’s fun sometimes to learn a new technique but in practice rolling is usually really one sided, either getting smashed by an advanced student, or easily beating some new guy.

I’ve done a little bit of full MMA and shootboxing sparring as well. It can be fun to put the different skills together and it creates interesting matchups with different sparring partners.

I had one amateur match at a muay thai smoker, which I lost by decision, but it was a close fight and I have improved a lot since then. I was hoping to get another match in a few months, but I may be too busy with work.

 No.43471

>>43467
I am mad jelly. I currently train at a mcdojo because it is all I can reasonably get to in my area and afford. I wish there was a boxing gym around here or something, I sure can't afford MMA. It is like $200-$300 a month and none of the gyms have active fighters in their stable.

 No.43502

Got a week left to train for my belt test.

They are planing to have me skip some ranks due to my previous experience and how fast I am picking up the new stuff.
The only thing I am still nervous about is the speed break. I didn't break boards and shit in any of my previous martial arts and now dude wants me to break a board with a spinning hook kick to a barely supported board. Which means I have to hit is super accurately, as fast and strong as I can, or it will just push the board rather then break it. To make matters worse my feet are sensitive and unconditioned so it really hurts using kicks on hard things. I much prefer to do breaks with my hands since I have conditioned them a little.

 No.43513

Welp, I pulled the trigger and joined my mcdojo's "independent" federation.
It is official, I am one of them now. Feels bad man. Like I know better but I still did it anyway because there just aren't really any better options.

 No.43520

>>43467
>I had one amateur match at a muay thai smoker, which I lost by decision

Why?

 No.43523

So anyone got advice on dealing with strike sparing with much larger dudes?
I have grown used to using counter kicks when my opponent drive forward but with this big dude I get knocked/pushed backwards in a bad position or even off balance. I am not quite fast enough to time and circle around his lunges so the only thing that I have found that is somewhat effective is counter punching and trying to tank his lung with two arm blocks that lean into is srike followed by a quick combo then circling out. But he ain't dumb and once he realizes that I am doing this he just stays likely outside my ranges and delivers kicks and power shots to keep me out of my punching range.
There has to be something I can do without resorting to grappling, leg kick spam, or counter throws when he lunges, all of which are not allowed.

What do you guys think?

 No.43541

>>43520
Why did I fight, or why did I lose? I fought to test and improve my skills, and for fun.

I'm not completely sure why I lost the judges decision, I think it was partially because the scoring system for the event was meant to score highly on variety of techniques displayed by the fighters, and my opponent hit me with a spinning back kick and threw a few headkicks. I landed more boxing combinations, teeps, and some knees which my opponent told me afterwards had hurt him, but probably should have thrown more roundhouses.

In the end, I don't really care much about the outcome of the judges decision, because I was fighting to get experience and improve my own skills, as well as to get the nerves of having a first fight out of the way.

 No.43577

>>43502
Just got back from belt test.
They already told me I passed and say I did well.

I messed up the speed break though. I just couldn't hit it accuretly and fast enough despite many tries. It pissed me off to be honest. I wanted to snap the shit out of the board but I think they sensed I was getting mad and instead had me do a different break (just punching the thing in half instead).
My forms were good, my sparing was good, only thing I fucked up was that one break. But whatever, like I said I already passed.

 No.43596

>>43577
I think punching that board in half brused my knuckle.
It is 2 days later and my hand still hurts. Not super bad and I still have full use of it. It just feel like that time I punched someone full force in the forehead. Will probably take another few days to fully heal is all.

 No.43615

>>43577
I am now officially 2 ranks higher and have a new belt.
Yay I guess.

I also learned that currently there are no other schools in our "independent federation" so calling it a federation at all is kind of bullshit. It may have at one time been a actual federation, but it ain't one now. It is just one really small school with barely any members.

 No.43633

>>43615
What belt and what are you training in?

 No.43634

>>43633
tang soo do karate and currently green.

 No.43689

Looks pretty interesting.
Hope it gets a following so it can sustain its self. Not a fan of the hud though.

 No.43705

>>43689
why is there a bitcoin logo in the middle of the ring?

 No.43738

Anyone worried about brain damage in sparring? Would like to get into it but am concerned about the long term effects

 No.43743

>>43738
I don't really spar full force head strikes or do spiking throws so head tramua is pretty low. There is still the risk of accidents happening but that risk exist with most physical activities. The biggest hits I have taken in sparing has been stuff like knocking heads while grappling or getting thrown way harder then I expected (from a little old lady no less) when I was still new to full speed breakfalls.
Generally in strike sparing when you go for the head you are just trying to give a light tap, sort of to say I got you or keep your hands up. Generally you aren't pounding on each other, and in the rare times/arts you do you aren't pounding on the head.

 No.43777

>>43689
I really don't like the camera work and editing, but other then that this seems to have a lot of potential.

 No.43790

I am starting to get tired of the big dude and my current schools bullshit during sparing and drills.
Rather then stick to whatever criteria the drill or what is agreed upon in sparing and escalates or ignores whenever he feels possibly disadvantaged, despite out weighing everyone but almost 100 pounds.
Last night we were doing "light contact sparing" and I desided to work on my footwork to get inside and negate his reach advantage. He too this as increasing the level of aggression and decided to ignore the light contact part and use his full weight to knock me around the room while ignoring and walking through all my agreed upon controlled and light contact strikes.

I had a long talk with him after class calling him out on esculating shit and being unable to stick to what is agreed upon but all he did was try and pull rank and tried to claim it was a ego thing. Thing is he has already injured and continues to injure people with his bullshit. He refuses to control himself, then blames everyone else for his lack of control while making irrational excuses for injuring people during training.

 No.43804

>>43705
One of the sponsors is a group pushing bitcoin.

 No.44609

Been working on my knife hand(aka karare chop) and hand conditioning. Teacher says if I feel up to it I can start buying my own blocks and practice breaks on my own time without supervision.
Here's hoping I don't end up breaking my hand.

 No.44613

>>38964
>t. someone who practices russian systema martial art

>>39000
krav maga is less a martial art, and more a close quartes combat technique. the difference in my eyes is that one was designed for flashy movements, where krav maga basically just teaches effective hand to hand combat moves

>>39070
I have a bunch of german books on hand to hand techniques made for specific martial arts styles, mostly on how to perform all of the flashy displays against imaginary opponents. but realistically, you can get a pillow or a tree and practive getting good at punching or condition hands, arms, and legs to take/deliver hits. systema training can sometimes be found on youtube (brute force techniques with heavy emphasis on taking hits and not going down, rather than deflecting which takes lots of practice and works only on certain moves)

 No.44679

They finally put the heavy bag back up (after I knocked it off it's mounting bracket last week).
It is clobbering time!
Going to work on getting off center line more for my straight punches.

 No.44685

>>44679
And I started a small hole in it from working the bag.
The upper ranks are starting to make jokes that I keep killing bags and really should save up for my own.

 No.44716

>>43790
You can always just refuse to spar with him you know, it's a free country, you don't have to spar with someone who refuses to keep his agreements about how the spar will be conducted.

 No.44718

>>44716
The head instructor already talked to him about it, and since we have way more total noobs everyone has to use a lot more control and he doesn't get to spar much anymore after going to hard on a 8 year old little succubus and have her father threatened to pull his whole family out if he didn't get called out to chill and control himself.
Rather then learn more control he just doesn't spar. Ether way it is soved for now

 No.44740

Are sword skills considered a martial art? I like the idea of martial arts, but don't want to get injured by flashy moves, also I have been reading about samurai and I want to learn to wield a sword like they could.

 No.44742

>>44740
>Are sword skills considered a martial art?
Yes
> I like the idea of martial arts, but don't want to get injured by flashy moves,
all physical activity carries the risk of injury.
>also I have been reading about samurai and I want to learn to wield a sword like they could.
Do you have a source of income? Weapon based martial arts tend to be expensive in a few different ways. If you have the money and there is a place near you I would look into trying kendo and/or iaido.
It is basically what you are looking for.

 No.44808


 No.44810

>>44740
>>44742
I did iaido for a little while when i was a teenager. I found the small group setting really too awkward and didn't like the white instructor who could barely pronounce Japanese

 No.44812

>>44810
Sounds like a personal problem rather then a actual problem with the class.
It is pretty rare for someone to complain about a smaller group setting for learning martial arts. Honestly the very best is one on one learning/teaching, with a small group for drills and sparing opponents.

 No.44834

I just got 2 swords, one for practicing tameshigiri, and one unsharpened for practicing the moves without slicing off a limb. but there is nowhere to learn the moves except youtube and most of the people are fedoralord tier or act like you already know what you are doing, are there any books an technique I can read?

 No.44870

>>44834
I don't really do sword stuff myself so the only books I have read about eastern swordsmanship are ether tactics or history, which isn't what you are looking for.
The one possible exception being "A Book of Five Rings" which does go a little bit into techniques but probably isn't detailed enough to properly learn from on its own.

 No.44930

Very brief history of world martial arts.

 No.44936

i'll try muay thai once my body is stronger, with the main goal being to learn to take hits and learn to not be afraid of physical contact

and from there i'll learn to respond with attacks, but that's not my main priority

how weird is that?

 No.44955

>>44936
sounds cool, I hope by trying you mean going to the gym where there is a coach who helps you and doing some sparring?

 No.44957

>>44834

dont know if its what you are looking for but id look at kendo, it has plenty of sword instruction and demos to look at, maybe even a class nearby.

 No.44962

Martial Arts is mostly a meme. All the useful techniques can be learned in an afternoon.

 No.44963

>>44962
What impressive ignorance.
You have no idea what you are talking about yet you are trying to pick a fight about it anyway. What kind of idiot does that?

 No.44964

>>44936
Unless you have some medical problem that prevents you from physical activity all together then you are in good enough shape to start.
I don't know how many times I have to point this basic fact out but martial arts gets you into shape, you don't have to wait until you are in shape to do them.

 No.44965

>>44963
Cool denial bro

 No.44966

>>44965
Why are you trying so hard to troll a topic you don't care about?

 No.44971

Punch to the face, chop to the neck. Ninja 101.

 No.44991

>>44962
>Martial Arts is mostly a meme
If you watch the early days of the UFC you can see BJJ black belt Royce Gracie BTFO people much bigger than him.
Strength and height matter in a fight; however, precision, timing and, when it comes to grappling, leveraging strength are essential. BJJ removes most of the advantages with weight and height.

Of course, if you are accosted by 5 guys who are all twice your weight and and can bench significantly more than you then running >>> martial arts.

>All the useful techniques can be learned in an afternoon

I don't want to be rude but this is absolutely retarded. You NEED to spar hard to improve. Putting your body under constant pressure to improve all the time is what works. This is why the martial arts that CONTINUALLY work in the UFC are BJJ, Wrestling, Muay Thai and Boxing.

 No.44992

Head instructor is pushing my next belt test to November. Will be skipping ranks again and testing for 2nd kub.
Just have to learn a additional form and train for a new break.
A speed break from hook kick.
I have also been conducting my hands to use knife hand through a concrete block. Maybe by test time I will be able to break two with spacers.

/Karate blog
>>44991
Don't feed the troll.
Just report, hide and move on.

 No.45019

Sparred 2 on 1 tonight. It has been a long while since I did it but it was fun. They really worked together well so I could not use the trick of getting them to trip over each other by getting one in front of the other. At best I used my foot work so that it was more like fighting a tag team then getting pounded on from two directions. I also resisted my old training of just grabbing one and using him as a shield while putting him in a lock of some sort since that isn't very karate like.
I just kept my defense up and counter striked whenever someone got close.
Had a blast, can't wait to do it again.

 No.45051

>>45019
Sorry but that may be the most ridiculous exercise ever. Just doesn't really make sense

 No.45052

>>45051
What is not to get?
It is pretty simple. You fight two guys at once, but it is sparring so we aren't trying to actually hurt each other.
Like do you understand sparring?
Well this is the same thing only with another guy to deal with.
It is a pretty good training exercise imo, though the risk of injury is higher then normal sparring, so I wouldn't recommend doing it all the time simply because of the odds involved.
How do you like to train?

 No.45101

Point sparring is still weird to me.
I won tonight just barely but I prefer normal free sparring.

 No.45112

Wow, this is at a whole other level of how to do this kick.
I never knew such speed, power, and accuracy could be be obtained by loading up the back leg and springing off of it in such a deep stance for a kizami mawashi geri (front leg roundhouse). Mine is just a quick but weak throw away kick that I use to control space. Sort of like a jab. But when applied like in the video I have no doubt it could be used to end a fight.

 No.45113

When I was a young lad I used to do kenpo at the local chain dojo. Surprisingly, they were a lot better at it than some other places I've visited. Maybe I should get back into martial arts, I've not done it in a while.

>>45112
The shuffling also gives you movement options. It seems like a better fighting kick than a sparring kick though, it seems like it prevents you from doing any long or circular strikes after you land.

>>45101
Free sparring is always more natural. In some dojos they require you to follow up with your strikes; just landing a single strike isn't enough. That can make it feel a little better, but free sparring or grappling is always the best way.

 No.45177

Some Japaneses sword stuff.

 No.45179

>>45177
who knew that even the actual traditional japanese guys doing sword shit are edgelords

 No.45180

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>>45177
Thanks for that video, just made an OC reaction face.

 No.45181


 No.45182

>>45181
>3 views
Is that your channel wizbro?

 No.45183

>>45182
nah, someone posted that video in webm thread (i think) quite a while ago, but i didn't find it so i just googled "jetpack katana youtube"

 No.45184

>>45181
Wires, but still entertaining. Would watch in the shade at a amusement park between rides.

 No.45193

Did normal sparing yesterday and even got in a tiny bit of ground work but today went back to point fighting for whatever reason.
Had high success with my right reverse punch, mainly as a counter or as the ending to a combination. One of the guys said my sparing style when point fighting makes my look like a bonus character from Tekken. I am not sure how to take that, but I think is was supposed to be a complement. One I don't really understand but whatever.

 No.45196

>>45193
take it how you want to

 No.45262

>works on hard blocks for a few weeks to the point that they are instinctual
>get talked to for using hard blocks during sparring with white belts and causing them more pain then they can bear

Sometimes you just can't win.

 No.45323

Tried the whole 10000 punches a day thing for about a week.
Turns out the thing that I dislike the most and have the most trouble with is keeping count.
It was also really boring after the 3rd day and felt like a chore. I have seen some improvement in my punches and seen that improvement carry over to sparring, but I am pretty sure there are more efficient ways to get the same level of improvement.

 No.45447

Another good day of training.
Then after while I was browsing youtube I came across this.
A technical break down of Henry Armstrong.
It is so good, I just wish there was a way of using it when kicks are a factor.

 No.45466

I think I might be sexist.
Let me explain. Lately in my karate class there have been maybe 2 or 3 succubi in the class but it has always mostly been guys. We train, everything is fine.
In the past week or so the succubi have been bringing in their friends, and there have been a bunch of random succubi who joined at the same time until tonight the place was packed with overwelmingly mostly succubi.
It was loud, chatty, they couldn't pay attention, and overall the training quality of everyone suffered.
In my experence succubi almost always put in less effort and train worse, and if they are given to many breaks they drag down the standards of everyone involved making people shittier martial artist. Granted I have met and trained with exceptions to this, but still the majority are weak in body, mind, and spirit when it comes to martial arts. A kind of weakness that is contagious when not addressed.

I don't like it, not at all. I just have to say it somewhere. There are just too many succubi and they are making things worse. Worst yet, most are teenagers/highschoolers. So they are extra chatty and undisciplined. They treat the whole thing like a joke.
I actually hope most of them quit, rather then turn this place into a fucking social club for succubi.

 No.45467

>>45466
>I think I might be sexist.
Where do you think you are?

 No.45470

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>>45467
a place where people get banned/warned for criticizing anything to do with feminism in any context

And also a place that has users who openly loath anyone who does any sort of physical activity or have non-passive hobbies

And a place that has a large amount of users who hate anyone who vales standards, training, improvement, discipline, or every taking anything seriously.

>>45468

I don't know who that is or what that is supposed to imply.

I think I rather take the example of this guy and go train alone in the mountains non-stop for a few months

 No.45488

>>45466
You are sexist. The disordered people are those who are not.

 No.45489

>>45488
Can you rephrase, I don't get what you are trying to say, sorry.

 No.45490

>>45489
I think he was being sarcastic.

 No.45503

>>45489
He is trying to spin those as not sexist as being the abnormal ones. It didn't really work.

 No.45586

It seems that half of the new succubi stopped showing up after the first week, so that is nice.

Starting to feel a little too comfortable in sparing. It is just that I sparred with all the upper ranks so much that I have gotten totally used to how they fight, and my defense is a lot more solid so our usual light sparring is basically harmless unless I totally stop paying attention for some reason. Not really sure what to do about it. I guess just help them become better as I get better too so I don't out grow them.

In a unrelated thing found a great video of my second favorite throw that made me happy. Enjoy and happy training.

 No.45592

Tonight was a lot of fun.
My hook kick is looking good and I have nearly mastered the most powerful version of it other then spinning, the skipping hook kick.
Fast, with a lot of power, and don't have to take my eyes of the target to hit.


Sparring was fun too. One of the bigger guys I was fighting got tired so I could play it my way and inside fight, ended up slugging away and getting the better of each exchange by cutting angles and good head movement.
I even got to use a few of the tricks from Armstrong because he eventually barely had the steam to throw kicks.

My other fight was with a upper rank that was my size but I actually just barely bettered him tonight by being just a hair faster with my strikes and reactions, while also changing up levels a of my combos with less openings then before.

 No.45625

I'm going to practice kickboxing at home. I'll have a small sandbag soon, but I think the most important thing is shadowboxing.

If there's anyone who has done boxing before, could you please tell me how to set my routine(like warm up, push up pull up etc, footwork, shadowboxing, cool down)?

 No.45626

It's been months since I last showed up to training.
I was scared because I missed a few classes.
Now I'm scared because I missed too many.
I don't want to quit because I like what I do, and I put a whole lot of time and money into it already.
I don't want to continue because I'm afraid of having to catch up.

What do?

 No.45627

>>45626
You go to class and if it feels like you have catching up to do then drill stuff outside of class in your free time too. Ask your instructor/coach for advice on what to drill to catch up.

Part of martial arts is overcoming fear. Become a stronger person by walking through that door even if it might be a little akward at worst.

>>45625
Most important thing is pardner drills and sparring.
You can get fit on your own but you will never get good at boxing solo. You will never get better at fighting without fighting. In other words without practical feedback you can't improve.

 No.45690

Tonight was rough.
Sparred the big guy that has trouble holding back again. I was already tired so I couldn't move out the way of his attacks as fast or use my speed advantage to deal with his mass and reach advantage.
He ended up sidekicking me full force (in light sparing again) in the liver hard enough that I got knocked off my feet and into the wall several feet behind me.
Took me a full minute to actually be able to get up and over a hour for the pain to fade. Liver shots suck. Don't really have any other point then that. Just had to complain to someone.

 No.45696

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 No.45700

>>45690
Welp, I didn't even complain about it but the head instructor wasn't pleased and banned the big guy from sparing again, this time for 6 months. Mostly for scaring the white belts with his lack of control.
Still sore but still going to train tonight.
>>45696
Agreed.

 No.45702

>>45700
Tonight was a little awkward with everyone asking if I was ok over and over again.
I mean, I didn't see the kick from the outside looking in, but it looked just as bad/hard hitting as it felt and some of the people were surprised I wasn't in the hospital from taking that hit.

Still, once I convinced everyone I was more or less fine I got in a ok night of training. Mostly working on forms, stances, and making the end of each technique have a little extra snap to them.

 No.45805

Is it weird that the head instructor is having me already lead parts of class as a middle rank?
I am only a green belt in Tang So Do but he is already having me lead stretching and basic movements (strikes, blocks, and stances).
I didn't start teaching assisting in the other art (Hapkido) I did until I was one rank away from black belt.

 No.45809

>>45805
I did tang so do years ago, and IIRC green is actually relatively hard to attain compared to other styles

 No.45810

>>45809
It was pretty easy though.
Learn some forms, break some boards, spar some upper ranks
Boom, heres your belt.
Forms and breaking was a bit new to me coming into the art but with a bit of practice not hard at all to pick up.
Will probably skip strait into brown in the up comming test in a few weeks. I have the forms down already, have the sparing down, and planning to actually exceed the standards for the break by breaking concrete slabs as well as wood boards since I have my hands somewhat conditioned. I just have to make sure I am accurate with my speed break for the kick since last time I had a bit of trouble with it. When it comes to the hands I am not worried at all.
The indiviual technieqes of Tang So Do are all really simple and easy to learn. It really comes down to learning how to apply them effectively (sparing and breaks) and learning the forms.

 No.45812

>>45810
From what I can remember, the form is a very kata heavy form (where making belt rank is based mostly on your ability to do katas) which was one of the reasons I stopped going among other things. I understand that in an ideal world, the katas would translate over to improvised movements for multiple attackers and what not, but it seemed to sterile of an environment to be realistic (like the difference between medical school and actually sitting there with a patient with body fluids and stuff)

 No.45817

>>45812
I guess I lucked out in the place I go.
nearly every class involves sparing.
Granted I would prefer if instead of time spent doing basic movements in formal stances that was spent doing alive drills like pad work, over all the kata is just a part of the cultural side of preverving the art and takes up about 1/4 or less of class time. I learn the forms not because I think it will make me a better fighter(the martial part), but because it will make me a better artist. Plus for those with lower levels of experience it is a good way to learn the basics of how to get your body to do what you want it to do.

 No.45829

Last time I spared one of the 13 year olds sort of half joked that even when I am fully holding back I am still pretty scary in sparring.
They said that my face and the way I move is like that of a assassin that likes to come up behind you and slit your throat without hesitation. Like really graphic and detailed shit. And the thing was, others were nodding in agreement, including most of the adults.
They then just laughed it off like a joke, but that kind of uneasy laugh that lets you know they were only half joking.

Man I was only playing around and not taking sparing with them seriously at all since they are just kids. That kind of hurt my feeling. I didn't mean to be scary.

Then again this is the same kid that likes to ask if they can pet my fluffy hair after class so I doubt they are all that scared. At least when no sparing is involved.

Actually now that I think about it, one thing that struck me as funny when we started letting younger people be students was that no matter who came in, no matter how young and energetic they were, I still had beat when it came to energy. Young people tire out so fast it is funny. It makes me wonder about how lazy or out of shape you have to be to complain that a kid is too hyper to deal with. A little exercise to burn off the extra and then some is all you need to get them under control as far as hyperness.

Still, it feels weird training in a class mixed with both kids and adults, especially when everyone more or less spars everyone else at the end of class in light contact.
Sorry for the blogposting.
Just had to vent.

Might break some concrete blocks for fun/practice later.
Happy training.

 No.45898

>>45829
Finally found oak dowels at the hardware store near my job.
I will be able to make some of my favored weapons now at low cost.
Though it means I have to get new tools too. ☹
Gives me something to look forward to after testing other then just learning new forms. Now I can also spend more time doing my own thing with weapons.

 No.45992

I forgot how much easier it is to teach someone one on one.
Head instructor had me start off by teaching this one guy how to pivot on his support leg during roundhouse, and then I basically went from there to training him all night on how to improve his boxing stills and roundhouse kicks.
I wonder how much of it will actually stick though.

 No.46037

Just finished belt test.
I passed and will get my brown belt Monday.
Still have a lot to learn and a lot of training to look forward to. This is just one more step in my journey.

 No.46064

Got a pair of tongfa to play around with.
Can't wait to get home and practice with them.

 No.46065

>>46064
specs?

 No.46066

>>46065
What do you mean specs?
They are just normal hardwood traditional Tonfa. Really different from any weapon I have trained with so far. They are fun but it is going to take me a bit before I will be good with them. Just gives me a excuse to train more but a little bored with my standard training.

 No.46068

>>46066
Fine whatever. Thought maybe you bought special ones.

 No.46156

As time goes on I am noticing that it is getting easier and easier for me to learn new forms.
It used to be the hardest thing to me in regard to the art I currently train in, but even that is getting easy.
Well I will get the forms that I am supposed to learn for my current rank down perfect then I will start learning ahead and see how far ahead I can get before next test.

 No.46383

I miss grappling. I have enough money to do another art but not the time so for now it is just karate but still I would love to throw in some judo or catch wrestling if I had the time.

 No.46427

I actually think this stance might be useful for karate.
Will try it out next time I spar.

 No.46434

Have any of you got injured while practicing?

I've been thinking about picking a martial art, but I'm really wary about getting scarred, breaking bones, dislodging joints and feeling pain in general. How common is this to happen? Any recommendations on what should I try?
>inb4 ballet
I've heard it badly fucks up your feet.

 No.46435

>>46434
Of course.
There is a likelihood of injury in just about all physical activities.
Most that I have gotten directly from martial arts have been minor and healed. Bumps, tons of bruses, sprains, cut, etc.
The main long term injury I got from martial arts is a repetitive strain injury that dancers and gyminst also commonly get (it is from too many high kicks without giving the inflamed joints and tendents time to properly heal). Which is my fault for not listening to my body and training non stop almost everday
when I should have taken a few weeks off.
Meanwhile it has helped with healing my knee problems I got as a kid from torn ligaments (by greatly strengthening the surrounding muscles to compensate) and my asthma (don't know exactly how but it helped a lot).
I have know people who have gotten pretty badly hurt doing martial arts but I have also know those that have never been injured(with the exception of super minor stuff) despite practicing for longer then I have been alive.
My advice if you want to avoid serious injury is get a feel for the intensity and attitude of the place you are thinking of joining, condition yourself well while paying close attention to basics like breakfalls and keeping your hands up, and unlike me listen to your body and if something starts to act up get it checked out or at the very least take a break for it to heal.
I do hope you at least try it out. I
Martial arts is hard sometimes but it is a very fulfilling hobby.

 No.46440

>>46434

I get injured on a hourly basis at judo practice.

 No.46489

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Well, I tried out the fisticuffs stance, aka the old timey bare knuckle boxing stance during karate sparing.
Didn't really like it and couldn't make it work for me. Honestly I have had more luck with stuff like a modified version of Mike's Peekaboo stance or more "normal" martial arts stances I am used to. My favorite and most natural fighting stance is still more like pic related, but it means I eat a lot of side kicks to the gut so I have been experimenting.

Also all that training of my punches seems to keep paying for its self despite being so massively boring. My reverse punch is honestly my most useful and most often to connect, go to technique now. I can consistently use it effectively and get good hits with it in nearly every situation on both sides as long as it is in working range, which I am pretty good about getting in with most people I spar with. I wonder if I should try to improve it even more or if I should do similar crazy training (the 10,000 strikes a day thing) with something else to see if I can improve that as well.
Too bad because of work I can't get anymore karate sparing in this week. Tonight was a lot of fun. Even did more 2 on 1 sparing.

 No.46597

It is fun to impress white and yellow belts with defensive techniques while they are trying their hardiest to go fast and doing everything they can think of to land a hit.
Had one completely flabbergasted when they were throwing crazy (but sloppy) combos and trying to be what they thought was unpredictable, but no matter how fast or how random they got I could effortlessly block, deflect, dodge, or counter everything they throw out. Meanwhile I could lightly tap them at will.

I know it is a little bit of a jerk move if you show off too much, but every once in a while is really fun and shows them what they have to look forward to if they put in the work.

 No.46607

The greatest female fighters in modern history.
Has a exhibition fight guy.
You can guess how it goes.
That said, for a succubus she is a great fighter with very good technique and great physicality. It is no wonder she dominated when fighting other succubi.

 No.46629

God damn is the way he moves a thing of beauty.
Talk about inspiration. Time to crank the tunes and work on my footwork and transitions while shadowboxing.

 No.46630

>>46607
i hate it when what's on the thumbnail has little to nothing to do with the video's contents

 No.46631

>>46630
I didn't make the thumbnail but it is a great video regardless of the clickbait thumbnail.

 No.46640

No sparing this week and nearly all the upper ranks including myself have a cold but I still got in some pretty good training today.
Worked on combinations, drills, and forms in class, and I worked on footwork and lengthening my solo sessions. I tend to rush and tire myself out too fast when working out alone. I am still working on pacing myself rather then doing the stop and go thing.

 No.46641

For the past year or so I've had interest in learning to fight. Boxing and judo interest me most of all, but I'm not picky, I'm in the middle of nowhere so I'd take whatever I could get.

I hesitate though. I'm 25 and need to be in better shape before I consider it. I want to have a good cario and lifting routine down. But also, here's what really worries me: I've never in my life been in any sort of fight. I've never even been hit. Never taken a single punch. I have no clue how my body would react. I've never been in a violent situation, and it's one of my insecurities, because one day I might be attacked and because I've never so much as been punched, I might freak out or something and it'll be humiliating.

Is it simply too late for me to become at all decent in any style of fighting? Do you have to be younger, have to have had some kind of experience in physical combat as a child? I understand and accept that, if I did go through with learning, I can't become a professional at this point. That is fine with me. I'm just terrified of signing up for a boxing class or something, getting punched once, and ending up crying or screaming because my body has never experienced it before.

 No.46644

>>46641
For fuck sake…
Maybe it is because I hear this kind of thing all the time for decades and am tired of giving the same answer over and over again, or the fact that this as been asked in this thread multiple times but it is actually starting to get on my nerves.

You don't need to get into shape to start martial arts. It is exersise that gets you into shape and any instrutor worth anything will know how to build you up from a totally unfit uncoradanated couch potato that doen't know how to even move their body properly to a copetent and fit martial artist if they stick with it.
>am I too old at fucking 25?
FUCK NO! Especially if you are going at it recreationally. There are people who I have seen start training martial arts for the first in their 70s. Your young ass ain't too old to start martial arts. Shit, if you train really hard under the right guys you can actually still be young enough to go pro if you are good.

>Afraid to get hit

As long as the place you go to isn't filled with total assholes or something you will be eased into, with light contact stuff and drills. Newbs don't learn anything by getting pounded on, and they don't tend to stick around long ether. Eventually if you train at a place that isn't a Mcdojo you will slowly but surely through training be able to think nothing of taking full on hits and/or throws, and shrug off all the ones that don't do actual damage.
My only warning in this regard is that if you are totally freaked out by any human contact then you might not want to take up a grappling based art. At least not as a first art. But odds are this warning doesn't apply to you so whatever.

I will say this, you will have your ego broken down when just starting a martial art, or any new hobby really. Unless you are supernaturally talented or something you will feel awkward at times, you will make lots of mistakes, and you will have to take a lot of criticism and correction in order to get better. Not everyone can handle that so they quit pretty early on. If you think you can keep at it and keep showing up to improve then you will get better and eventually you will feel silly for even worry about any of this shit.

Btw Boxing and Judo are fucking awesome and both communities have a lot of great people in them. You will likely have a great time with ether art.

 No.46648

>>46641
The thing I don't like about judo is the places I've visited don't allow any wrestling stuff like single-legs or any attacks from the back while standing.

 No.46649

>>46648
>wrestling stuff like single-legs
That is because the Olympics banned them to differentiated judo from wrestling as events and such bans trickled down the big two organizations that do tournaments and compete on a international level.
>any attacks from the back while standing.
They are reserve for upper ranks under the logic that you are not allowed to use any technique you don't have the skill to breakfall safely from yet. There are rear throws allowed even in the strictest competitions though if you are black belt or higher though.

Really, a lot of the annoying rules of most martial arts come from the double edge sword of competitions.

 No.46708

Finger tip pushups are really freaking hard.
Anyway, I found out Michael Jai White has videos where he talks about karate uploaded to youtube. He REALLY knows his stuff about karate and is the real deal.

I love the detail he goes into in this video.

 No.46851

Between the holidays, work, and being sick, I have missed quite a few work outs.
Jumped right in and everything was still good.
Worked on hand techniques for breaking blocks. Worked on a new form, and even did rounds of 2 on one sparing.
Accidentally kicked a hole in the wall though. Feels good to get back to training.

 No.46914

Blocked a kick with a kick and now my shin really fucking hurts. Icing it now but still, ow! I didn't let it show but god damn, I will probably be limping around for a day or two.

Now the place I am going feels like it has too many kids, worst yet the head instructor keeps introducing me as a instructor, and keeps complementing how well I do with kids.
He is very obiously trying to make me a kiddy teacher and I want no part of it.
I am not even especially good with kids, I just treat them like normal people but physically smaller and less experienced. Like a sheltered dwarf or something.

When most of the succubi quit I was relived but they were only replaced with children. I mean it is a step up but it still annoys me.
I am also irritated by how gynocentric the head instructor is, but mostly I just roll my eyes and ignore it. When I call him out on it he uses the excuse that he has daughters and that every succubus reminds him of his daughters so he can't help but treat them preferentially. They wont get better if you cut them too much slack and praise them for mediocrity. He needs to cut that shit out because it is actually making them worse martial artist. It also alienates the male students who train harder and show up more consistently.

It also makes me sad that this thread has basicly just become my martial arts blog.

Where you other guys at?
the people thinking about training, did you start training yet, if so how is it going, if not then why not?
The guys already training, what are you currently working on?
I feel so lonely in this thread☹.

 No.46915

>>46914
so do you get paid? Cause if not you should be demanding money.

 No.46918

>>46915
No, this is just a hobby to me and everyone else involved. The money for dues just keeps the rent payed and the lights on. No one, not even the head instructor actually profits from the school. Any surplus earned gets spent on improvements to the school/building. If he was smarter he could have probably even set up the paperwork for the place to be a non-profit with how we actually run the school, but ironically that would have cost more in paperwork and required a lawyer and accounted to look over everything once a year in this county, which is bullshit that no one felt like going through. So I think we are classed as a LLC since it was the simplest process and had the least requirements while having good legal protections for liability, which is important for something where people can and regularly do get hurt.

 No.46943

Been practicing karate for over a year now and didn't know this stuff.
I too foolishly thought pulling the hand back to the hip had something to do with power generation.

 No.47107

Finished latest belt test. Was pretty easy. Broke a board with a ax kick and another board with a knife hand chop. Forms looked good, sparing looked good. I nailed it.

But I am nervous about the next test. Have to break a thick block and last time I tried such a thick concrete block I bruised the bone which took months to properly heal.

 No.47147

I think I am starting to feel overly relaxed in light sparing. I think it is because I am getting better, but it might be because I need to find new ways to train that are more challenging.

Had a "sudden death" point sparing match that I lost from walking into a side kick to the armpit, so I am leaning towards I just need to train harder. I worked on movement and offense a lot but I think for the next few weeks I will really focus on defense and defensive techniques.
Also thinking about doing more leg conditioning, mainly of the shins. It is going to hurt but I might as well get it over with so I can block stronger kicks and put more power into my roundhouse without pulling back because it hurts when it lands.

 No.47148

>>46914
>Where you other guys at?
my guess is most people here would rather spend their free time alone rather than in a social setting

 No.47180

Improving diet in preparation to cut weight so I am back down to 175 and thinking about getting a vinyl barbell set to lift heavy again. I have been slacking when it comes to weightlifting because I don't grapple much anymore but lifting is good for explosiveness even in striking.
Want to get a new gi too.

 No.47220

Got the barbell and have been incorpreating it into my solo training days.
>basic techniques and forms for warmup
>lift
>cardio and conditioning drills
>cooldown and stretch

I expect to see good results with this. Now if only I could be disciplined enough to get my diet right.

 No.47249

I used to do karate but the dojo was not great and I left to go overseas and just never got back into it when I returned. I looked for other dojos but they are actually worse and I feel embarrassed thinking about going back to my old one. So I just practice at home.

 No.47250

>>38961
In police training it is said never to get within 20 feet of a person you suspect may have a weapon like a knife as they can close distance before you can draw. Sure having a gun is useful but you have to draw it first. You don't have to draw your hands.

 No.47254

>>47249
Do you know what style of Karate?

 No.47255

>>47254
Goju Ryu.

 No.47260

>>47250
Honisly unless I was already basically within arms reach if I think someone is going for a gun I am using my martial art skills to dive for cover then run. My objective in self-defense isn't to defeat all who stand before me. It is to maximize my odds of survival. I don't like the odds of hoping they are slow on the draw and I can bumrush them.

 No.47261

>>47260
That's just giving them the advantage. They could shoot you before you get to cover or when you try to leave it. It depends how close you are. I would say anything under 4 meters I would rush them, although if there is no cover near by you would have to rush them anyway. Either way you won't be able to draw a gun of your own.

It's not just guns though, often self defense situations will happen spontaneously and not give you the time or space to draw a gun.

 No.47262

>>47261
You do know the vital hitrate and overall effectiveness of a firearm goes up the closer you get right?
With hand guns the accuracy of most shooters drops dramatically as you increase distance especially for moving targets. Your odds of survival go up as you increase the distance not decrease. I rather make it harder to shoot me rather then easy. If I do get shot then I want that bullet to have the lowest oodds of hitting something important and have its lowest energy. Not point blank in the torso or head. I also want there not to be follow up shots as each hit reduces survival odds.
I think you are overestimating how long it takes to draw or how dangerous a gun is at point blank range.

 No.47263

>>47262
>You do know the vital hitrate and overall effectiveness of a firearm goes up the closer you get right?

Provided you can actually fire it Hence why I say 4 meters. Because I know I can make that distance before he can draw and fire(I've done it in training against opponents who knew I was going to run for them and had no hesitation in trying to shoot me).

The maximum effective range of a handgun is about 50-100 meters, that's a lot of distance to cover. If there is no cover near me I am not going to give him target practice.

 No.47264

>>47263
You can cover 4 meters in .02 seconds?
What did you say you trained in again. Might need to add whatever you are doing to my footwork.

 No.47265

>>47264
You can't draw and fire in .02 seconds, as said before, trained policeman recognize that a man with a knife can get to them under 20 feet before they can draw and fire.

 No.47266

Wait it's 21 feet not 20 feet.

 No.47271

>>47265
No really what are you trained in?

Video of someone slightly slower then someone who specializes in quick draws.

 No.47272

>>47271
A professional from a sports holster under sports conditions.

Completely different from anything that would be found within the realm of reality.

 No.47273

>>47272
Why are you not answering the question?
You said you trained in something, what did you train in?

 No.47274

>>47273
Because it does not matter what I trained in.

 No.47275

>>47265
That is a suggestion and not a hard-fast rule. In police training the phasing that the few cops I have talked to on the subject is that you have to "earn the draw" and "remember you have the rest of your body to move or push the guy away, or otherwise stale him long enough to actually get your gun out".

>The maximum effective range of a handgun is about 50-100 meters, that's a lot of distance to cover. If there is no cover near me I am not going to give him target practice.

That is not what is being argued and you know it. What dude said was that accuracy and precision go down with distance, as well as the amount of energy delivered over distance compared to point blank.

 No.47276

>>47275
Which is why I was saying 4 metres not 6.4 metres.

It's still not that dificult to hit a man size target in the open at that distance and it does not lose much velocity at all at a that range, I would rather not be in a position to get shot at in the first place.

 No.47277

>>47274
I suspect you were lying when you said you trained before. Why would you lie about training if it didn't matter?

Also yes it does matter what you trained in. It matter quite a bit actually.

 No.47278

>>47275
>>47276
In my experience, it usually takes people about 2 seconds to draw and fire from a holstered position. but there are other things you need to consider:

>how long the threat was observed

>what is the environment (are there many people around)
>are firearms allowed

there is still merit to learning unarmed combat styles, and aven more so when you have to go through things like metal detectors.

Even then, metal detectors cannot stop a threat like someone with a ceramic or titanium knife from just walking through, which is why you should be able to defend against knife attacks without loosing too much blood or getting your vitals cut.

Unlike law enforcement, civilians often do not have the same rights when it comes to self defense. Although you can argue you were defending your life, you can still get in trouble, where a police would not "because it is his job"

 No.47280

>>47277
It does not matter because it's so easy to do. 4 metres is really not far to travel before somebody can react, make the decision that they are going to use lethal force, draw there fire arm and then fire it. If you don't believe me try it yourself.

 No.47281

>>47280
You are a keyboard warrior who has no practical knowledge and no clue what you are actually talking about.
Go train and learn some humility.

 No.47282

>>47281
Sure sure. I'm not telling you because you would not believe me if I did. And As I said, it's really not hard even in a training environment, let alone a combat one.

 No.47283

>>47282
Troll be gone
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 No.47291

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Fistacuff stance part 2: fighting irish stance edition

Been trying more bare knuckle boxing stuff in karate. I have been reading up on Daniel Mendoza and his thoughts on defense as well as watching Mike Tyson. After some experimentation and practice I have started to settle in to a stance that looks someone similar to Guile from street fighter fighting stance.
It is working for me quite well but I have yet to test it against someone really good at front leg side kicks, which is the thing I have been having trouble defending against.
What I didn't expect is that during sparing while using this mix of bare knuckle boxing and karate that once I got into clinch range I used a classic stand up wrestling (as in I used a duck under and pivot to take their back).
It has got me thinking that maybe with a little work Karate + bare-knuckle boxing + catch wrestling could be a interesting and viable combination.
More pressure testing is needed though.

 No.47317

>>39653
>situational awareness
How do I train that?

 No.47318

>>47317
It is just a matter of getting in the habit of paying attention.

Here is a little drill to train it once you understand the basic concepts.

 No.47347

I tried karate back in middle school. A lot of it was useless, like memorized forms and most of the blocks. The one useful thing I did learn is how to really put my bodyweight into a punch.

 No.47348

>>47347
When you get the timing done and get the hang of application the blocks are actually super useful in my experience. That said the one thing I really dislike about karate is forms/kata. Which most karateka see as the very heart of karate. To many people kata is karate, and to me that is unfortunate. I still like training in karate though. Sparing is fun and most of the basic techniques and older applications are good.

 No.47349

>>47347
Probably a bad dojo if that is all you got out of it.

>>47348
Kata is annoying but it's a useful training tool.

 No.47350

>>47349
I have been studying/practicing karate for a little over a year and I still don't see how kata is actually useful. I think active drills would be better use of time over kata. I like Kihon and Kumite though.

 No.47351

>>47350
Coordination, flow and technique if nothing else. Also, many of the moves may seem odd but they do have practical basis.

 No.47352

>>47351
>Coordination, flow and technique
Which are better trained in active drills like pad work.

 No.47353

>>47352
Not really. Pad work is simplistic, the most flow and coordination you will get out of it is doing a few punches and then maybe they move the bag down and you do a kick. It's nothing like what you get from Kata where you are doing far more varied and complex moves that all have to flow into each other.

 No.47354

>>47353
You have no clue what you are talking about and also seem to never have seen tai pads.

 No.47355

>>47354
I've used them before, it's still simplistic. Think of Kata like a dance, it's a set of defined moves in a piece and everything must be precise and flow into each other, pad work does not have that.

 No.47358

>>47355
>I've used them before
If you really did, you did it wrong/badly with someone who didn't know what they were doing.

>Think of Kata like a dance

It is equally useless to combat skills and serve the same practicality as learning to tango. It doesn't directly translate into fighting ability like good pat work does. Pad work which is dynamic, active, alive. Kata is static, inactive, dead. Like reading a picture book from a long gone culture and making educated guesses at what it means. Kata is a old book at best and a tombstone at worst. I have seen no benefit from learning them. They are a waste of time as far as I am concerned. Only relevant to martial arts historians or those exclusively concerned with cultural traditionalism. There simply are better ways to train.

 No.47359

>>47355
>it's a set of defined moves in a piece and everything must be precise and flow into each other, pad work does not have that.
>has never seen or used combinations
>has never done combo drills

 No.47360

>>47359
Wow!!! Two punches and a kick! How can that be done at such a pace and so fluidly too?! Why I would forget what I was doing after the first strike, if I even had the grace to be able to do such a complex movement in the first place.

 No.47361

>>47360
>Also didn't watch the video apparently

 No.47362

>>47361
Was there more than two punches!!! Was there 3? No way, there could not have been… Was there 4?!!!! I can't watch that, my mind could not comprehend such vast figures..

 No.47363

>>47362
You know what. If you want to be willfully ignorant then that is on you.
That doesn't mean it is fine to sarcastically troll when you run out of coherent objections to differences in training methodology.

 No.47372

>>47291
After practicing even more with it all through the week I have to say it works great and I really like it.
Just needs more practice until it feels natural and I don't have to think about it.

 No.47442

Sparing was great today. Been working on my footwork and spacing a bit, it has made all the difference.
I am also getting a little too good at reading the current upperanks in sparing to the point where I can see one of their tells and play around by using really absurd counters.
Like one guy likes using hook kick a lot and he does a quick turn and tilts back a instant before he throws it. So I read this tell and do shit like change the spacing and counter with a punch to his kicking leg that is timed well enough that it off balanceses him and makes his leg start to cramp up after enough hard blocks and counter strikes to the point where he was limping at the end of the match. Never quite got it through his head that he should better set up the kick or use a different one.
Still walked into a side kick from a diffrent guy when I got tired.
I really need to keep working on that. Ether upping my cardio so it is harder for me to be tired or improving my awareness and defense so even when I am dead tired I can still consistently defend/counter that kick

New form I am learning is ass. I hate jumping with bare feet and it has this weird jump where you land with your legs all crossed up (sees if I can pull up a video of the form…found). Whatever I will eventually get it once I do it enough.

 No.47495

Small class today, head instructor had me lead class. It was fine because it was small so whatever. Figured out how to sort of create a makeshift makiwara board from stuff we had laying around, so I conditioned the fuck out of my puntches today.
One of the studence had a emotional break down and was crying after class. female of course.
I stayed out of it and kept training with the head instructor while a couple of the guys played into her bullshit. Oh no, a bitch is emotional due to shit that has nothing to do with class. Better stop everything and coddle her like a small child.
Emotianal weakness like that makes me sick and has no busness in the training hall. Take your drama and get the fuck out. Couldn't even do basic shit like walk front stance backwards and gives up quickly and complains that she can't do anything and is fat.
I personally would never want a student like here and would have been shown her the fucking door, but whatever.
Really shouldn't make me this mad, but drama bullshit invading the sanctity of my hobby/lifestyle pisses me off. You are training to control your body and mind to handle the stresses of hand to hand combat and you can't even keep your emotions together or string two steps together despite being here for over 7 or 8 months because you don't put any effort into getting better and give up. Find a new hobby, martial arts are not for you.

Anyway, I should probably condition my palm strikes for the break I have coming up. I am also still waiting on the thai pads to come. Probably got another week or two of waiting. Shit from china is so cheap but the shipping takes forever.

I wish I could just train with androids or something. That would be great. A martial arts training bot that can both demonstrate techniques and also be used for pardner drills and sparing.
Unfortunately such robotic tech is several decades away as least and about time something like that is possible I would be too old to make full use of it.

 No.47496

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>tial arts training bot that can both demonstrate techniques and also be used for pardner drills and sparing.Unfortunately such robotic tech is several decades away as least and about time something like that is possible I would be too old to make full use of it.

get pic related

 No.47497

>>47496
A block of wood isn't really a stand in for a actual opponent.
I think you would be better off picking fights with farm animals in that regard. At least animals or whatever throw in veritable one has to deal with and react to things. A wood dummy just sits there while you pound on it in different ways.

 No.47521

Well I fucked up.
Turns out I only ordered 1 thai pad rather then 2. That means I have to order another one and wait weeks again for it to ship from China. Since I was already ordering stuff I decided to get a chest protector too.
Well at least the one I got looks good and is of usable quality.

 No.47564

Found a rather interesting doc.
It shows that even if you are scrawny and weak like a succubus you can still benefit from and beat bigger stronger opponents if you learn high level grappling.

 No.47577

>>47564
lower center of gravity is also mechanically more efficient, so manlets and smol grils have an advantage if they are stronk

 No.47578

>>47564
>grappling
I like my fingers non-arthritic, thanks

 No.47579

>>47578
Go back to /b/ with your shitposting.

 No.47580

>>47564
She looks fairly ripped though.

But yes, it's about knowing body mechanics and how to effective use your weight and nullify your opponents.

 No.47612

Any wizard have experience with fighting after years of not training? I used to do muay thai. Recently I practiced with a punching bag and I can still do 1-2-1-2 and 1-2-3 combos along with kicks

It's been 3 years since I sparred and now I'm insecure that I might get my ass kicked by someone who doesn't know how to fight.

 No.47619

>>47612
Yeah, it is definitely a perishable skill and at least for myself there is a lot of rust that has to get knocked loose when I have to take time off training.Doesn't help that I usually have to get back into shape when I take alot of time off too so everything feels off. While you will still be better off then someone with no training it still is a skill that degrades over time without practice and the occasional sparring match to keep things tuned up.

 No.47664

One of the instructors finally brought the hammer down and insisted on proper discipline and respect in class. Putting a end to all the talking and playing around. Thank fucking god! Other then that it was just a average day of training. In the quite I was able to realize the reasoning of some of the movements in relation to formal technique practice (kihon) regarding how you step when doing some of the blocks.

 No.47713

There is no excuse.
If you want to train then go train. Let nothing hold you back from your goals.

 No.47844

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I've been thinking about trying boxing. Problem is my nose is unusually large. Is it too uncommon to use these headgears that protect the whole face? Would I be picked on for that?

 No.47845

>>47844

Go to the place first and see what people there generally wear.
The people at the krav maga place near me are crazy bastards so the only thing we wear are cups, but when I went to another krav maga place for a lecture the instructor there almost had me sit out because I had no mouth guard. Just an example of how different places teaching the same thing can be regarding protective gear.

 No.47846

>>47844
Those things are awful.
You probably won't be hard sparring for months and instead focused on fundamentals and improving fitness.
That is unless you have the misfortune of being fed to the competative fighter(s) of the gym and they don't expect you to stick around long.

 No.47893

>>47844
You can. I did it and just focused a little morè on head movement and evasión.
It Will be fine no much diference

 No.47944

Belt test is this weekend and I still don't have my forms totally down.
I am also not super confident in the concrete block break I have to do, as every time I have attempted it before has lead to injury.
All that is left to do is practice outside of class and hope everything goes well for test.

 No.47994

>>47944
Past my belt test and broke the concrete block with one strike.
Actually hit though it so hard/fast that the edge of it cut my arm as I went through the block. Used a palm strike this time and my hand doesn't even hurt. Unlike hammer fist where even when I hit full force I didn't go through the thing and injured my hand.
2nd kub (red belt) here I come.

 No.48026

>>47994
Actually ranked up to 1st kub rather then second.
If things keep up in the next 6 or so months I will be a black belt.

 No.48063

>>48026
Was some dispute by the head instructor what my rank actually is.
Decided to just leave it where it was, and have me just train until November for a Dan (blackbelt) test.

Training was fun. I personally didn't learn anything new, but helped a few students have some breakthroughs with a kick they are working on.
Sparred without any gear for some reason. Since my shins are still mostly unconditioned it kind of sucked when I got kicks checked. But it gave me a excuse to practice palm strikes, which worked really well. They cover all the angles standard karate punches leave out (the style of karate I do doesn't have long hooks and overhands for some reason, and back fist kind of sucks if I am being honest). One thing I haven't seen anywhere else that I really like is the way the head instructor does knife hand strikes.
Rather then it being with the blade of the hand as it normal, his version that he taught to me is more of a very modifide palm strike using the very edge of the bones in base of the palm. Can break blocks with it and deliver a monstrous amount of power to a relatively small area on hard targets without injuring the hand after a bit of conditioning. I really like using it defensively too, as a way to counter strike limbs then briefly hold them in place for a follow up counter blow to the body.

I haven't seen it in books, videos, or discuses online, so I think doing the knife hand this way might be something unique to this line of schools, as he said he learned it that way directly from his master from Korea.
Very cool and glad to have it as part of my tool box of techniques.

 No.48244

God damn today was fun. Spar like crazy.
Men, succubi, children, 2 on 1, 3 on 1. 1 minute rounds, 2 minute rounds, just going until someone is too tired to keep going.
It was a buffet of combat and every dish came with a knuckle sandwich.
I has so much fun sparing today, but now I am dead tired and more then a little swore.

Before the fun had to work on a new form. Apparently this one is super old and found (with a lot of variation) in most styles of karate. Lots of moves in it, but I have 6 months to learn it so I am not that concerned.

Think I had a minor break through with one of the students.
They are a hard case, full of doubt and always complaining about everything. They also usually give up very quickly.
I more or less told them to clear their mind and focus on one thing, doing the kick then reset to do another kick.
Anytime they tried to spout some bullshit and whine about something I shut it down got them to refocus on the kick, do the kick, then reset both their poster and mind to do another kick.
There was a lot of resistance at first, but after they started to get the hang of shutting the fuck up they probably did more reps without complaint then I have ever seen of them in class before.

Overall I really needed that. Been so busy with work, and they cut the number of classes down so I haven't been able to go as often. It felt great to finally cut loose and fight until I could barely stand.
I love martial arts.
I love karate!

 No.48361

>>47844
For boxing it's very common because you get hit in the face the most often and damage to the nose sucks. A lot of boxers that I have trained with favor those nose-bar style headgear. Remember that the purpose of headgear is to avoid damage to the face and not to protect from brain trauma. Open face headgear is mostly worn for competition, or by fighters preparing for competition.

 No.48383

I wish the head instructor wasn't so strict about sweeps. I want to practice stuff like this, but he insist it isn't apart of Tang So Do as he was taught it.

 No.48388

>>48244
Did you punch children?
can you send vids?

 No.48395

>>48388
>Did you punch children?
Yes.
With control of course.
>can you send vids?
No
Do not post information that may reveal your real identity.

 No.48608

On of the best Bare-knuckle fights I have ever seen. Truly beautify.

 No.48615

I've always wanted to do martial arts since I was little (loved martial arts movies) and started wing chun when I was 17. But I found out I got a chronic illness that lead to having a colostomy. Doctors said I couldn't do martial arts or weight lifting so I stopped. Then turned 25 and thought fuck it. I only live once and got permission from my GP to do it as long as I didn't do sparring and took precautions. Started doing muay thai and I do sparring, I just wear a protective vest.

I took it up to prove to myself that I could do it and I'm glad I did.

 No.48620

>>48615
Just be careful not to get the shit knocked out of you.
lol.

But seriously you are a inspiration, showing that when there is a will there is a way, including the way of martial arts.
I wish you well in your training dude.

 No.48640

>>48620
A few people at the gym have told me I shouldn't be doing it. But they haven't been in my shoes so they wouldn't understand. I avoid telling anyone now. Most of them have quit anyway so I don't have to see their faces anymore.

 No.48645

>>48640
That is pretty funny because I see it all the time
>yo you shouldn't do this, you will never make it, etc.
>they drop out after a few months later like the bums they really are
Martial arts are a show don't tell kind of thing. The people who make progress and become good are the people who consistently show up to train and train hard consistently.
While I haven't met anyone with your exact problems I have trained with people who had all kinds of physical and mental problems who didn't let that stop them.

 No.48797

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Get swole is important to martial arts?

 No.48812

>>48797
not really the core of it but being limber and fit will make it easier on you if you keep up with it and do some basic shit like eating healthy and exercises other than martial arts (even a little bit will help) you will get fit.
In your pic I would say some somewhere between day 31 and day 56 would be good unless you are thinking of going professional or into tournaments.

 No.48840

>>48797
Martial arts are all about applying the attributes that you have in an effective way. When all else is more or less equal between two fighters, attributes like strength, size, height, cardio, flexibility, etc become big determining factors in a fight, but technique is still king. If you don’t have the technique to effectively apply your attributes then a more technical fighter will beat you every time. One of the key purposes of martial arts has always been to use technique to overcome the threat of attack from a larger, stronger opponent. If you are big and strong AND have great technique then you will be a very dangerous individual indeed.

 No.49415

>>38935
OP here, I quit.
Instructor was being an unstable prick and I've been staying away from class but paying for it for a year before dropping it.

 No.49417

>>49415
Sorry to hear that.

 No.49418

>>49417
It's probably for the better, and I picked up some useful things while I was there.
Chiefly theoretical and spiritual, like the Dao, but it did help.

 No.49488

After a long time of urge, I finally decided to practice a martial art. Luckily, there are three dojos in my neighborhood, including a kenjutsu training center. But as expected I've got no money for any of them.

Does anyone here have any material, yt channels, books, etc which I'm able to teach myself a martial art? Preferably karate or kendo techniques? I know I'll miss some essential skills as observing your opponent and creating some good reflexes, but unfortunately that's all can do for now.

 No.49494

>>49488
No.
You will not be able to learn solo with no previous training. Currently you are better off working on your general personal fitness and earning money rather then build bad habits that once you actually start training you have to waste time correcting.
Solo training only works if you already have lots of previous experience.

 No.49788

>see punch
>meh it doesn't look that powerful
>try it
>"oh fuck my hand!"
Turns out it delivers a fuck ton of force and that I need a lot more time on the makiwara to use it full force.
I think I will include it in my training and daily punches so that I can get the timing and use of it down, but other then that focus more on hand conditioning so I can use it full force without it feeling like I am about to break my hand on the standing heavy bag. Like the foam makes no difference to that punch and makes it feel like you are punching the plastic pole underneath full force. That is how much it penetrates with the impact. Very nice if I can train up to being able to use it.

 No.49791

>>49494
Maybe this is true if you're slightly mentally retarded, but if not you should be just fine teaching yourself moves. You don't learn how to punch by listening to a guy tell you how to do it over and over, you learn by punching over and over. Whether another guy is there giving you tips is pretty irrelevant. It may speed up the process slightly, but the actual experience of performing the motion over and over again is what will teach you how to do it. This won't teach you the most important part of how to fight, which is how to react to your opponent, but you can learn techniques just fine and then later you can just do a little sparring to learn how to actually fight.

 No.49792

>>49791
That is completely and totally wrong and spoken from someone who clearly has no training.
Do you have any example of someone being even remotely competent in martial arts with absolutely no training other then practicing solo? No?
Then all you are doing is spouting ignorant nonsense and lies. Lies ether that you are a telling first hand, or lies that you have been fed by some scam artist trying to sell snake oil.

 No.49793

>>49792
so let me get this straight, you think it is literally impossible to learn how to throw a punch unless you pay a guy to tell you how and you're accusing me of being the one who's been fed lies by some scam artist? Lol

 No.49794

>>49793
Prove me wrong or knock the bullshit off.
That simple. No trolling, no arguing, none of that.
Put up or shut up.

 No.49797

>>49794
alright then, but it will take some time to test my theory myself. I will report back once I have gotten into shape and sparred with someone at a place. Hopefully I can find somewhere to let me spar without taking lessons. I am a neet who spends 20+ hours a day in bed though so it might be a few months before I am in shape to attempt such a thing.

 No.49798

>>49797
I will be holding my breath in anticipation.

 No.49802

>>49791
I agree. It's always better to have somebody watching you but you won't fail to learn anything without that, it just might mean you make some mistakes like a certain part of the technique that could be improved or subconsciously not keeping your hands up enough and you won't have a teacher to spot that.

 No.49805


 No.49815

>>49805
How is someone meant to prove you wrong on an image board? What are we going to have a Wizchan fight club meet up? Idiot.

 No.49816

>>49815
So you are just making uninformed assumptions that you can't back up with anything as far as evidence then?
I got no tolerance for your destructive lies when it comes to martial arts.
You don't do martial arts and you don't know anything about martial arts so it is pretty clear you don't belong in this thread giving out bad advice. Your opinion is based on nothing and is worthless.
If you can't back up what you say with anything then fuck off.

 No.49817

>>49816
I actually do martial arts though… Anyway, nobody can back anything up, keyboard warrior. That's why it is all so ridiculous to ask somebody too.

 No.49818

>>49817
not same wiz, but it'd be relatively easy to "prove you wrong" in a couple of ways. philosophically, i could argue you may learn to "throw a punch" but the punch you actually throw isn't correct in the martial art of your choosing. also in martial arts like judo or aikido, you will 99.9% be unable to make any progress without both a training partner and a good teacher to inform you if what you're doing is even correct.

 No.49821

>>49818
I agree with the Judo and Akido aspect, or any grappling based martial art really. Because it really require proper technique and training partners, otherwise you may do something only slightly wrong but wrong enough that the hold does not do anything.

>philosophically, i could argue you may learn to "throw a punch" but the punch you actually throw isn't correct in the martial art of your choosing.


I don't even understand what you are trying to say here.

 No.49822

>>49817
You could post video examples of people who are competent from just solo training with no formal training background, if such videos existed, which they don't.
Or of notable martial artist that are entirety self taught and only trained solo, of which there are none.
Or give empirical evidence that such a training methodology has ever given good results, of which there is none.
The reason why you can't back up your statement is not because we are at a computer, but because what you have said can't be backed up by evidence because there is none, because you are wrong.

>I actually do martial arts though

Doubt

 No.49823

>>49822
Most people who are in a situation where they make a video of themselves doing martial arts or compete in martial arts are in a position where they can go to a dojo/gym. It's like asking for a professional weight lifter that never went to a gym, does it happen? Probably not, does that mean that excersise at home is unhealthy and can't produce results? No.

 No.49824

>>49822
If there is anyone in doubt I think it's you. I don't think a competent martial artist who trained in a good dojo would act like a snobby brat like you do and insult everyone else who is following the path of martial arts just like they themselves say they are. It's not just here that you do this but all through this thread, it's utterly cancerous.

 No.49825

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>>49823
Put up or shut up.
It is that simple.
If you have absolutely nothing at all to back up what you are saying then shut the fuck up with your bullshit. Ignorant posers spewing false information has been a damaging pox in the martial arts community and I will not stand by and let your foolishness soil it any farther.
You even admit that you don't have any evidence. In fact you couldn't even conceive of what evidence of your position would look like without aid. And now you are giving nothing but excuses on using really bad analogy to argue that maybe theoretically it is possible no matter how improvable, of which you are just declaring the possibility of it without any proof.

Just like I can claim that there is a teapot in orbit around the earth with the explanation that such a thing is theoretically possible while presenting no evidence to indicate the claim as being anything other then a flight of fancy.

>>49824
And without a rational argument you now resort to complaining about tone.
Unlike you I actually care deeply about truth within this subject. If you have a problem with that then find someplace else to spew your lies.

 No.49826

>>49825
Ugh… You are too dumb to reason with. What you think that if somebody practised on a punching bag by themselves it would produce no benefit to them at all? They would never punch harder, never punch faster? I'm done with keyboard warriors like you. I'll hide this thread as it obviously has nothing to do with martial arts but rather it's just a place for your ego.

 No.49890

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i was marathoning some chopsocky films and i don't really understand the point of doing this?

why do they do this?

 No.49892

>>49890
Hand conditioning. Traditional asian martial arts has this idea that the more you obliterate your hand the stronger it will be.

 No.49893

>>49892

then why don't they crush their hands with a sledge hammer?

 No.49894

>>49890
>>49893
Look up Wolff's Law

This video goes into detail.
That particular method is more of a movie thing, but the basic concept is explained in this video in detail from people who actually know what they are doing.

 No.49901

>>49892
I could understand how that practice could arise in Japan during the meijei restoration while they were really playing up the whole samurai warrior thing while simultaneously forbidding people to own swords. People want to walk around acting like they can kill you with their bare hands so they condition their hands like crazy. In a society where you can just carry weapons though, I'm pretty sure everyone would just do that instead of obliterating your hands. I wonder if this practice arose in China and if China ever had a ban on weapons. I would be very surprised to see that this was an actually ancient practice anywhere.

 No.49906

>>49901
You don't "obliterate" your hands. That guy is just a idiot.
It is very slowly strengthening the hands in the direction of stress, strengthening the tendons, increasing bone density, and toughening the skin so that more force can be delivered with a lower risk of self injury. At no point during the proper process of conditioning do you actually injure yourself. Instead you very slowly acclimate and adapt the body to certain types of force. The end result being able to preform near superhuman feats as can be seen in breaking demos and the like. Or more practically, hit somebody with various parts of your body really hard and only do damage to them.
On location and culture it is common in certain Chinese styles like Wing Chun and especially Shaolin as well as Okinawan and Japanese styles such as karate, but the basic concepts of conditioning are found in nearly all "hard styles" of martial arts that have good documentation.

This article will give you a bit more general information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Palm

 No.49908

>>49894
>>49906
How probable is it to get hand injury doing this? And what about muay thai exercises that seem to do the same for the shins? Those videos of legs snapping like rubber are pretty terrifying.

 No.49910

>>49908
It is impossible to put a number when it comes to provability.
It relies mostly on patience and consistent practice over a long time.
Injuries happen from ether ignoring what your body is telling you and over training, or rushing things and doing more then you can handle way before you are ready. Form is also important, so injuries from bad form such as wrist sprains are a possibility. Lastly there is injury from not giving the body what it needs to heal properly (rest and nutrition).
In a way it is very similar to wight training. If you load up too much weight to fast then you can hurt yourself. If you have bad lifting form you can hurt yourself. And if you don't do recovery between sessions you can hurt yourself. But, taking your time and doing things right the risk is actually pretty low once you got the hang of it.

>And what about muay thai exercises that seem to do the same for the shins?

Wolff's law applies the same to that form of conditioning as well. Though part of it is also about lowering the pain response as well.

>Those videos of legs snapping like rubber are pretty terrifying.

That has less to do with conditioning method and more to do with maters of recovery and technique in most of the cases. Though some are just down to really bad luck, like the one involving that Japaneses pro wrestler that landed just a little off from a jump.
Generally it is just one of those very small but very real risk of full contact combat sports, or any physical sport know that I think about it. It is very rare though. Like people who break their spine and end up wheelchair bound due to football.


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