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 No.43569[Last 50 Posts]

Anyone here grow mushrooms or take them before?

I remember posting back on /wiz/ about a year ago about my experience with mushrooms and people were really interested. Though that time I bought them off the darknet markets, this time I am growing them. First image is my current grow, second image is not mine but where they will be likely be within 5 days, 3rd image is the innoculated jars.

Essentially what you do is sterilise brown rice flour (BRF) in a small masonry jar by way of pressure cooker. You then take the sterilise jars out, add psilocybin mushroom spores which can be bought online from USA in the clearnet no trouble as you just say they're for microscopy purposes.

Once you colonise the jars with spores you keep them warm and away from sunlight for two weeks. Inside the jars the spores will create mycelium and eventually turn the entire jar into a big fungi mass. You take this out, place it in a terrarium and keep the humidity high and the light low and the mushrooms come out within a week (where I am at the moment).

cont.

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So the benefits of magic mushrooms are not highly researched but still positive.

I can also give you personal experiences if you like. From a die-hard atomist, scientifically minded, rationalist person after a single mushroom trip I now question everything. The rationalist mind immediately thinks "this guy is a fucking retard" or "his brain got fried lol RIP >believing in hallucinations" but when you experience for yourself the mind-expanding, boundary dissolving entheogens for yourself you understand this is what life is all about.

*Trip Report*
First trip: 2014 or so~
Age: 23
Dose: 3.5g of psilocybin mushrooms

10 minutes: took them mixed with lemon tea (converts psilocybin into psilocin which is the active compound) I begin to see weird kaleidoscope patterns on the wall.
15 minutes: my stomach hurts, walls are breathing, bed is breathing (as in literally fucking breathing) beginning to feel the come-up really abruptly now
16 minutes: I have run to my bed as I could feel a massive rush of intensity - blinding intensity, the walls are covered in 3D rotating geometric shapes, thoughts racing, can't move off bed
17 minutes: I am simultaneously experiencing normal reality and an inner reality of what I can only call a hyperdimension
20 minutes: The intensity of it all was so incredibly strong and so intense I had to focus on my breath to take my mind away from it all.

cont.

I know these pictures are somewhat of a meme these days but this is what you become.
Pic 1 accurately represents first 12 minutes or so.
Pic 2 is coming.

 No.43571

After 20 minutes there is no keeping track of time. My awareness has left my body and is now travelling through hyerspace, I witness impossible geometries, prophetic visions of humanity, experience global consciousness and the fundamental vibration of reality. I am not even a human anymore, my experience is so far out and impossible for a primate to download into his brain. My vision is 360 degrees around and I can look into both my past and future.

These experiences last for a couple hours. Just absolutely mindblowing stuff. I begin to come down.

I re-enter my body and even though the world is literally melting like that painting with the clocks, the walls are covered in gems, the back of my eyelids has a kaleidoscope on them - I feel as though I am completely down.

Then I feel it - the faint awareness of something other than me using my own thoughts to communicate with me. Now I'll post what I believe it was a bit later but for now just move on. It's talking to me, it knows everything about me and there's no where for me to hide. It wants to teach me something, show me something - about myself. Images of my life flash before my eyes, different experiences I've had throughout my life I'm both re-living and watching as though on a movie screen in my head. Suddenly there's a tremendous energy in my chest. Like a hydrogen bomb but the detonation is being contained by myself somehow. It feels like the most powerful radiant energy is about to destroy everything - not just my body but the entire universe and the only thing stopping it is my will.

"Why are you holding this back?"

Immediately I release all resistance and the radiance bursts through my chest. I feel like my heart has literally been crystallized by god and turned into a shining example of divinity that a human can experience. A trillion emotions wash over me, self forgiveness for the way I treated others, how I treated myself, acts I've committed, things I've witnessed or said or done that I shouldn't have. Just vaporised in this angelic beauty, I feel like a newborn child whose heart has been touched by christ.

 No.43572

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Slowly the trip fades, I come down and I stay awake for two days just trying to process W H A T T H E F U C K just happened to me. I took the mushrooms because I read online they can really help with depression and self hatred but holy SHIT. I still cannot fathom that something so powerful can be experienced by a human.

And though the experience faded there was instantly no self hatred, depression, anxiety or anything. Just an overwhelming sense of gratitude and a feeling of self love which brings me to tears when I think about it. That I can now nurture myself instead of having my mind constantly tear me down and turn my into this disgusting goblin that sits in his room all day for months and months on end.

So this is my offering to wiz - again. If you are fed up with the way your life is going and you don't want to live the rest of your life stuck in these cycles; please give it a chance. Research more about hallucinogens, entheogens and psychedelics. They can change your life and show you what you need to see if you only stop resisting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN3mBDQjTlc

 No.43573

also if you think it would do well in /wiz/ pls move it there

 No.43574

You probably expected a reply like this one.
I'll be forever skeptic of these things, not of the experiences mind you, but of phrases like this one
>when you experience for yourself the mind-expanding, boundary dissolving entheogens for yourself you understand THIS is what life is all about.
It's something that's too commonly thought about too many things to ever be taken seriously.
"Oh but this time it's real". Everytime.
This time it's significant, this time it's special, this time it's not my personal experience brought about by a gross underestimation of the sensory capabilities of the human brain among other things.
I'll have to experience it for myself, but until then I will never simply accept these ideas (Afraid I'll end up resisting in the end as you put it though. Probably for some gay reason like fear, who knows).

But I am glad it helped you out. Self love is a useful thing. Don't take my skepticism as an attack or anything like that. I'd have an easier time if I could just accept entertaining ideas such as yours.

 No.43575

gimi some wizzie

 No.43576

>>43572
I came to similar conclusions after taking LSD the first 2 times. Now, 6 or 7 years later, my memories are faded. I know there is another mental world out there which is incredible, which naturally happy people must be able to tap into. However, all my attempts to get a better life or mental state have failed in the long run. I have been suicidally depressed again for years and see no hope.

I failed to get back into the same magical state in the ~5 later trips that I did; instead of bliss i had anxiety and stress as I mulled over problems without solutions.

It was the most deeply profound experience of my life. I believe some people could be truly fixed by it, but sadly I cannot hold onto the realisations.

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Thank you for taking the time out of your day to share this hobby and experience with us OP. Many years ago after watching the episode of Vikings where they trip on mushrooms it caught my interest and I began to research psychedelic drugs intensively. I then tried going to a farm about 4 AM the next day after an intense rainstorm, however there were no psychedelic mushrooms at all, and I heard other voices out in the field which then made me sneak away. I then attempted some failed extracts of LSA from morning glory seeds, both of which merely upset my stomach.

It was at this point that I learned about research chemicals and how there are tons of fully legal variations of just about every single chemical in the world easily available on the internet. So I then ordered some 4-AcO-DMT (synthetic psilocin) from biochemdistribution for 25 bucks on my debit card and 10 days later it came right to my mailbox.

Setting aside a single day for the event, I woke up, skipped breakfast and put 20mg of the stuff into a glass of water, drank, then sat down in front of my computer waiting for it to happen.

About 25 minutes in I started to have glowing, technicolored lights appearing in the sides of my vision, which over the course of the next 10 minutes evolved into the potent psychedelic visions you mentioned in your own post. The walls breathing, Layers upon layers- extra dimensions, of infinitely complex, swirling gears and lights forming faces, teeth, the bodies of succubi and so forth. All dancing and twisting before me, constantly shifting colors and shapes. It was intensely beautiful to behold, and all the while I was just laying there on my bed sitting was too hard at this point while feeling these rolling waves of ecstasy wash across my body.

Eventually after maybe an hour of simply laying there and watching the visuals and listening to the music playing I decided to go outside into the backyard. I stumbled through the house and when I opened the back door just seeing the light pour through the leaves of the trees and onto the grass was the single most stunningly beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. I stood there for about 10 minutes just watching the leaves and trees, then I went on into the yard for a while and watched the ants walk around for a little bit, and then looked at my own house and felt some sadness at the prison I had made of my bedroom. It was an expression of love for my parents to make such a comfortable place for me, yet I was regularly locking myself into the bedroom for many days at a time, with dark curtains blocking out all light- while all the time such intense beautiful and life is right outside the window not disparaging against the hikki lifestyle here, just at that point in my life my own reclusiveness was born of an unhealthy mindset

After sitting outside for maybe an hour the experience was starting to wear off, and so I went back inside to wash the dirt off my hands and get cleaned up. It was at this point that I saw a hallucination where my hands and entire body were made out of dirt. Then it struck me that in a very literal sense I am dirt. This entire body is formed out of the elements of the earth, from where it came and where it will return to. I cannot die because I am quite literally the Earth itself.

It wore off slowly over the course of the next five hours, however the experience left me with this slightly magical sensation about the world for maybe six more months. I think my dose was much less than the OPs, but it was still one of the most potent experiences of my life.

 No.43579

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I spent a month colonizing the substrate jars. Spent another month waiting for the cakes in the tank.
In what would've been the final week of their growing, the humidifier tube slipped out and almost instantly caused the cakes to be taken by mold.

It takes one little fuck up, and it was one of the many things to remind me I can't do anything right.

 No.43581

>>43579
This happened because you were not meant to injest shrooms, at least not at that point in time. Maybe you are ready now, maybe you are not. It is possible you were being protected and had you taken them then, you would suffer unimagineable karmic consequences. The reason why mushrooms are not a right of passage into adulthood as they should be is because our world is not ready for it, but that doesn't mean it will always not be ready.

 No.43582

>>43581
I hate this mysticism. It's just a drug. No, you aren't being protected by the mushroom fairy.

 No.43583

>>43582
It's more likely wizanon didn't actually want to take mushrooms so he sabotaged himself then forgot about it.

 No.43584

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hey guys this is todays grow, they have grown quite a bit since i posted this thread last night

 No.43585

>>43581
I've already taken acid twice there's nothing that shrooms can do to me that's worse. My humidifier tube got bumped and fucked up my cakes.

 No.43587

>>43584
Those sumbitches grow fast huh

 No.43836

Hi guys a quick update

I ended up getting about 150g of mushrooms (15g dried) from 3 flushes. Not the best but enough for 3 mind destroying trips to the center of myself.

Best wishes to anyone who wants to try this.

 No.43837

>>43836
Cool, will probably get better at it with practice but glad to hear the results and that it turned out well.
Enjoy your trip and be careful out there.

 No.43857

Sounds absolutely incredible op, and I am deeply moved by reading your and the other wizards accounts of their experiences and long for a similar releasing experience. However, I still am skeptical about it fucking me up, so I would like to test it on my dog first. Can it kill a dog or will he be fine taking it? He’s pretty big by the way, maybeabout 70 some pounds

 No.43868

>>43857
its not physically toxic as in poisonous but i wouldnt do that to an animal i liked they'd panic and it may scare the poor animal>>43857

 No.43869

the toll people will pay just to get high

 No.43922

I tried growing Lion's Mane, White Enoki and some third one I think. Nothing but trichoderma grew. Trichoderma, trichoderma, trichoderma. In one or two of the batches nothing at all grew.

 No.43949

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Any handful books or sources our shroom summoners can link to? I feel like I'd read on this topic just out of interest.

 No.44346

>>43582
That's why it didn't work for you, clearly you're not ready.

 No.44959

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I bought dried mushroom from the internet a few days ago. Apparently it's legal to ship it my mail in my country so I can just order the stuff and it'll come to me. I took 3 grams of it yesterday. It was my first time. I had a pretty nice trip but nothing like some epiphany. It was very fun watching stuff though, very introspective and it felt like being inside of it in a sense, maybe I'll do more next time.

 No.44960

I took some about ten years ago. They gave me severe chest pain and I thought I was going to die.

 No.44961

Did you consider using a monotub vs PF tek? Also, can you share your total expenses?

 No.44970

I've never taken magical mushrooms and I don't plan on doing so, but would growing and selling them be a good source of income for a wizard?

 No.45063

>>44970
sure it could be. See if there is demand/other sellers in your country by looking on tor and asking on darknet forums

 No.45121

>>43579
Try buying a grow bag instead.

 No.45124

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If anyone is interested. Here are all the tools you need.

https://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php

 No.45125

>>43572
> I took the mushrooms because I read online they can really help with depression and self hatred
Nice!

 No.45129

Friendly reminder! Be sure to test your drugs wizzies! Drug safety is important! Don't ever forget that!

 No.45130

>>45129
R.I.P

 No.45132

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>>45129
If you or anyone uses opioids! Let me help you! http://lmgtfy.com/?q=narcan There you go!

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 No.45134

>>43581
>unimaginable karmic consequences
Care to expand on this.

 No.45135

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>>45134
It's fear mongering and a bunch of horse shit. Be sure to research whatever you get into.

 No.45137

>>45132
Why does society waste valuable resources keeping junkies alive?

 No.45138

>>45137
because every life is important in their eyes, it's the reason they wont allow people to an hero either.

the same goes for morbidly obese, why would you keep someone alive so they can get fatter and fatter, and instead of letting nature kill them off for their unhealthy lifestyles, you pump them full of drugs to keep them alive

 No.45139

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>>45137
stfu wiztard. as if normies are even junkies.

 No.45140


 No.45141

Imo any chemical that alters the brain functions in any way is best avoided tbh, I think people are unaware of the long term consequences of drug abuse.

Heroin and its permanent effects for example is probably the most frightening.

 No.45142

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>>45141
>Heroin and its permanent effects
Like what?

The wall…

apparently every succubi is hitting it.

pussy

 No.45143

Truewizes do jenkem.

 No.45144

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>>45143
Goodnight wizzie! Sweet dreams! Going to hit the hay! Love ya! No homo!

 No.45145

>>45141
>Heroin and its permanent effects
I have been unable to find any reliable source for this except clearly biased "addiction centre" websites claiming it destroys your brain. More reliable sites like wikipedia mention nothing of the sort.

 No.45146

>>45145
Go on and find out for yourself then.

 No.45147

>>45145
>Diamorphine, like morphine and many other opioids, produces analgesia. It behaves as an agonist at a complex group of receptors (the μ, κ and δ subtypes) that are normally acted upon by endogenous peptides known as endorphins. Apart from analgesia, diamorphine produces drowsiness, euphoria and a sense of detachment. Negative effects include respiratory depression, nausea and vomiting, decreased motility in the gastrointestinal tract, suppression of the cough reflex and hypothermia. Tolerance and physical dependence occur on repeated use. Cessation of use in tolerant subjects leads to characteristic withdrawal symptoms. Subjective effects following injection are known as ‘the rush’ and are associated with feelings of warmth and pleasure, followed by a longer period of sedation. Diamorphine is 2–3 times more potent than morphine. The estimated minimum lethal dose is 200 mg, but addicts may be able to tolerate ten times as much. Following injection, diamorphine crosses the blood–brain barrier within 20 seconds, with almost 70 % of the dose reaching the brain. It is difficult to detect in blood because of rapid hydrolysis to 6-monoacetylmorphine and slower conversion to morphine, the main active metabolite. The plasma half-life of diamorphine is about three minutes. Morphine is excreted in the urine largely as the glucuronide conjugate. Diamorphine is associated with far more accidental overdoses and fatal poisonings than any other scheduled substance. Much morbidity is caused by infectious agents transmitted by unhygienic injection.

 No.45148

>Repeated heroin use changes the physical structure13 and physiology of the brain, creating long-term imbalances in neuronal and hormonal systems that are not easily reversed.14,15 Studies have shown some deterioration of the brain’s white matter due to heroin use, which may affect decision-making abilities, the ability to regulate behavior, and responses to stressful situations.16-18 Heroin also produces profound degrees of tolerance and physical dependence.

>Heroin is extremely addictive no matter how it is administered, although routes of administration that allow it to reach the brain the fastest (i.e., injection and smoking) increase the risk of developing heroin use disorder. Once a person has heroin use disorder, seeking and using the drug becomes their primary purpose in life.

 No.45149

>>45148
>www.drugabuse.gov
literally a government propaganda website

 No.45150

>>45149
>peer reviewed studies
>guess I cant trust those because the ebil gubmint summarized their talking points

 No.45158

>>45150
>Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals
>At the BMJ we did several studies where we inserted major errors into papers that we then sent to many reviewers.3,4 Nobody ever spotted all of the errors. Some reviewers did not spot any, and most reviewers spotted only about a quarter. Peer review sometimes picks up fraud by chance, but generally it is not a reliable method for detecting fraud because it works on trust.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/

 No.45159

>>45150
like how Fox News does a good job of "summarizing" and/or financially incentivising their sources, I bet

 No.45173

>>44970
I knew a guy in high school that sold cocaine. He had never touched coke in his life. He was a nice guy. I never bought it off of him and I never narced him out or kept in touch. I hope he's doing well! He was a nice fellow!

 No.45174

R.I.P Chester Bennington.

 No.45175

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>>45063
>darknet
Onion forums? Are they safe?

 No.45176

>>45175
I'd never use them unless I knew that they were safe and secure af. I don't get good vibes from onion shit. In fact, I avoid it.

 No.46319

Anyone growing large-scale w/o the prebuild growboxes, I think this could be quite funny

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 No.48744

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>>43569
>wasting time growing shrooms
>not just getting some 4-AcO-DMT

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>>48744
>wasting time growing

Don't be a hater!

>DMT


I'd like to try DMT, someday.

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 No.52351

I've grown Golden Teachers & Penis Envy before but I prefer LSD or San Pedro cactus(which is what i'm currently growing). I live off psychedelics. They are the only drugs I like. Love the DNM's , never had an irl interaction before. Its a great way to kill time once all other /hob/ get old. Psychs never get old.

 No.52352

>>44970
Yes its the endgame of neetdom. Rich without employment or conforming to societal standards. You would need alot of space to grow alot of shrooms. if you grew a 1pd it would be about 4000$ profit. However since most wizards have problems with not interacting well with people finding custies will be difficult unless you vend but then you would need 10s of pds.

 No.52384

when the mushrooms grow do they give new spores or do you always have to buy them?

 No.53339

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Hi I've never posted here. This is my hobby. I'm growing oysters for food and wicked good hot n sour soup.

>>52352
>ithout employment or conforming to societal standards. You would need alot of space to grow alot of shrooms. if you grew a 1pd it would be about 4000$ profit.

Anons would need to sell each oz individually or find a whale to buy at 4g. If you want to sell as one lump sum it will be much less. It really depends on your connections. You could get 1 lb from 2-4 big tubs.

>>52384
Each mushroom produces millions of spores that remain in its gills. You take a print and you're set for life, but each flush will replenish you.

>>52351
Nice I have a cacti collection too and am gonna plant a couple hundred more in the next month. Got some scopiloculas and bridgesiis.

>>44970
If you grow in an apartment there will be room inspections. You can cover tubs with tapestries but a noobs tubs won't be monoculture based so your flush won't be uniform and maximized. You won't be making lbs from 4 tubs.


You can however do it small scale via shoebox method. Each plastic shoebox yields 1 oz usually. And they're stackable. No humidity chambers or hygrometers required. I wish this method had existed when I began in 2011.

>>44961


Use the shoebox method. I'm not him but you need a pressure cooker. The 23 qt presto works fine and is like $80.

With jars and your grain (replaces brf) and your plastic shoe boxes and coir its about 150

I think 11 jars fit inside it per run. Use plastic screw caps so you dont need to modify lids, just screw them half way on the threads so gas can escape. They are resuable too but warp after five goes.

>>43579
You'll learn and you'll never repeat the mistake. My advice is to have a lot of them going at once so if one fucks up you're still golden. It also helps if you're waiting for one thing to fruit. I also advise the shoebox method because its cleaner and opens you up to coir.

Also do you dunk your cakes?

If you wanna up your gains beyond BRF jars
I advise you to use Still Air Boxes, use agar, and join the Shroomery.

The boys who buy syringes leave a paper trail often, and are at the mercy of random syringes sometimes containing bacteria in the water and that fucks your grow. Spore prints last indefinitely and lasts basically the rest of your life.


Has anyone attempted Pan Cyans or Pan Cams?

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>>43582
To not feel anything means you didn't take enough. Have you done a heroic dose yet or know what an ego death feels like?

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>>45141
Before I did mushrooms I didn't give art the time of day or found religions interesting. Now they're both fascinating to me.

 No.53347

>>53346
>at last i truly see
hallucinations

 No.53348


>>53347
>Im a crab

And you'll never break that cycle.

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>>48744
There's always the chance some chink just sold you some other RC.

Growing your own mushroom guarantees you know what you're getting.

>>43574

I'm also a wizard, I would say it taught me suchness and really gets me into nature and speeds up and intensifies my thoughts. It certainly snapped me out of depression in my early 20s because it showed me something else is out there.

It takes the most die hard deconstructionist ass hole and makes him believe something at the end of a big dose.

 No.53352

>>53349
There are a few wizzies who are autistically triggered by psychedelics… nothing we can do about it.

 No.53593

Question for growers:
Did you buy your spores online? That seems like a bad idea. Also do you keep all the shrooms for yourself or do you sell them? In a lot of pics it looks like way too much for 1 guy. What dosage do you recommend for beginners? I've had weed a few times before so I'm not entirely a psychoactive virgin.

(fbi go away, this is about minecraft)

 No.53617

>>53593
>What dosage do you recommend for beginners?
Terence McKenna's advice is to take 5 dried grams alone in silent darkness. In my opinion, this is way too much for a beginner. I would recommend to microdose for a week or two to start with (like perception-level doses) to see how it affects you, then ramp up slowly: 0.5g, 1g, 2g, 3g, doing it no more than once a week, to see where your limits are. These are dried grams, by the way. The reason to go slow is that people have different tolerances and react differently to psychedelics. Make sure you get set and setting right before any trip (lots of resources online about this).

 No.53619

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>>53593
>>53593
>Did you buy your spores online?
The based move is to find them in the wild unless you live somewhere with bad winters. Always be absolutely certain on the species before you eat one. You'll learn about spore prints and mycology this way. And there's many online communities you can ask so long as you provide pictures of your finds.

You're better off buying a spore print and getting into agar. And if you're totally noob, then buy a spore syringe and get into BRF cakes like the OP.

Croatian proverb: Every mushroom is edible, but some only once.

Spores aren't illegal unless you're from a faggy state. Microbiologists and mycologists need them to study. You can also trade for spores. I've had 10+ trades and they often give me more than we negotiated. Sometimes they include gifts that are not spores like poems or art or seeds.

You can store your spores in a binder with plastic sleeves like a card collection.

>What dosage do you recommend for beginners?

As wizards I advocate doing them alone. And going by weight, if you're 250 lb+ I recommend a strong initiation experience at 4-5g in silent darkness (or with your favorite music) at sundown on a clear night of the full moon. Be sure that you have access to the sky during the night. The only way to abuse mushrooms is to not do enough and dismiss them.
Your first trip will be one of your most eye opening experiences and it only happens once, don't waste it with a micro dose.

Don't trip more than once every two weeks. The more time between trips, the more meaningful and spectacular the trip.


My first mushrooms were a gift, by my second trip it was from fungus grown by my own hand.

Happy hunting

 No.53622

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>>43579
Sounds like growing them is expensive and requires all kinds of stuff and space. Where do people buy the spores from? The only way I'd ever consider doing it is once I get my own place and the actual process is 100% legal.

 No.53623

>>43569
How do you know those mushrooms/spores are psilocybin? For all you know you've been sent poisonous spores that grow into poisonous mushrooms.

 No.53677

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>>53623
There isn't a poisonous mushroom in the world that is macroscopically similar which also shares the characteristics of cubes.

 No.53696

Where can i get a grow kit in the UK?
Everything i have seen has been £50 for a few mason jars, spray bottles and containers probably worth about £7 all-in

 No.53699

>>43569
Not exactly on topic, but does anyone have a clear net source for 4 ACO DMT? I bought from indoleshop but they've stopped shipping to the US…

 No.53708

>>53696
Just bought the £50 memekit online, should be getting delivered in the next couple weeks, can let you wizzies know how it goes

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>>53617
>>53619
Thanks for the info. What are your thoughts on Amanita Muscaria mushrooms? I've heard they can be specially prepared so they are 'safe' to create consume.

Also what about the different species and subspecies of psilocybin?

Conocybe
Copelandia
Galerina
Gymnopilus
Inocybe
Mycena
Panaeolina
Panaeolus
Pholiotina
Pluteus
Psilocybe

There's a lot to say the least and I don't know which one would be best.

 No.53717

>>53677
what do you mean by cubes?

 No.53722

>>53717
he's referring to psilocybe cubensis, which is one of the most commonly grown and consumed psychoactive mushroom because of its size and relative ease of cultivation.

 No.53884

Anyone for Truffles?

 No.53923

>>53708
Inoculated the meme kit and will now need to wait 5 weeks for the white cakes to grow

 No.53924

>>53716
Can you give a detailed review of each of these species?

 No.54008

>>43574
I have taken copious amounts of DMT, LSD and shrooms. I believe the same thing as you. They are very fun when done in a comfortable setting and with a positive mindset, but I don't think there is any greater meaning behind the imagery. Maybe some introspection takes place.

 No.54009

i had "Amanita Muscaria" before, i still have a bunch. my vision turned to shit and everything was blurry, i was shivering and felt kind of bad in general. aside from those physical effects, which sucked, nothing different. tried various amounts ending up with like a whole large cap in the end. i stopped because the taste and smell makes me gag

 No.54015

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In terms of the Shulgin rating scale id say shrooms have a solid potential to reach (++++)

 No.54553

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>>53884
Truffles are idiot proof and would be my recommendation for beginners. The sclerotia form in the jars and become potent after six months and you don't need to fruit them unless you want to collect spores.

The truffles contain less water weight so eating them dry is still gross and tastes slightly nutty. Definitely don't use a fine grain because the sclerotia intertwines with them. I advise turning them into a tea.

>>53924
Answers are already posted here >>45124
All you need to know is
Galerina will kill you painfully and like to grow around magic mushrooms on the west coast.
Panaeoulus is Copelandia and are about 3x as potent as cubes and love shit. Pan cam is said to be slightly more potent than pan cyan but GOODLUCK finding those spores. You can grow these without grain, and misting their fruiting bodies will cause aborts. They are much smaller than cubes and grow slightly faster.
Psilocybe cyanescens is the second most potent species but those come from outdoor grows on woodchips, growers still don't know how to replicate their fruiting conditions indoors, or rather don't want to build a special fridge room to do so. It's easy to innoculate woodchips and layer them around a potted plant that sits outside though, provided you time it around autumn.

And the most potent of all has been beyond every cultivation attempt so you need not worry about it.

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>>53923
Let us know how it goes.

>>54008
Everyone can hold a paintbrush but not everyone can paint.

>>44970

If the wizard used the darknet. Otherwise being a hermit is not a great start to being able to move what you grow. People don't really consume this that often.

>>43569
>Once you colonise the jars with spores you keep them warm and away from sunlight for two weeks.

This is info from the previous century. Mushrooms enjoy ambient light at all stages of their growth as evidenced by specimens grown in the light vastly out colonizing those kept in the dark.




>>53716
Pan Cyans and Pan Cams contain more Psilocin than cubensis thus making their trips stronger and more colorful. Instead of choking down a handful of gnarly cubes you can trip off 1 gram of pan cyan. You also need to case Panaelous in order for them to fruit and that needs to be an acidic pH.

 No.54560

>>54554
Thanks for the info on cams and cyans, wiz. I wonder if the visuals they provide would be distinct than the ones from cubes.

 No.54619

>>53617
This. I started at 2-2.75 doses. Shit was great. Went hiking. Went to a huge concert with lots of ppl, no issue.

Felt like my dick was big enough to just eat 3.75.

Wrong.

Come up was great, but I tripped way too hard. Wasn’t ready for the emotional roller coster.

 No.55047

>>54554
>everyone can hold a paintbrush
>aha dude im like so flippin high i can feel the drugs unlock my true brain potential
nice humble brag for doing nothing more complicated than ingesting a psychotropic substance. everyone is very impressed by your deep intellect.

 No.55311

>>55047
Just because you cant figure out how to use them doesnt mean others cant. But please keep being triggered.

 No.55312

>>43582
Maybe you're just just slow and are better off overdosing on heroin.

 No.55313

>>43579
It's not for everyone. Any idiot can hold a paintbrush and a triggered faggot will quit instead of learning to paint.

 No.55377

>>55047
Why would some fag that buys drugs from niggers feel the same accomplishment as the man who grew something?

You literally ate something from a niggers ass and are mad at the farmer who didnt.

 No.55484

>>55311
>>55377
fooled by your own delusions, seeking to brag about even something anybody can do. drug snobs like yourselves and joe rogan turn away non-pretentious people from ever trying them because they're worried they'll fry their brain and start sounding like you. you faggots aren't painters or farmers. stop kidding yourselves.

 No.55493

Anyone go for wood-ear mushrooms?

 No.58391

>>55493
I know how to make it into a salad

 No.58405

>>43570
> From a die-hard atomist, scientifically minded, rationalist person after a single mushroom trip I now question everything. The rationalist mind immediately thinks "this guy is a fucking retard" or "his brain got fried lol RIP >believing in hallucinations" but when you experience for yourself the mind-expanding, boundary dissolving entheogens for yourself you understand this is what life is all about.
When people make statements like this, I wonder if they are aware of how the brain works. Our eyes are not 'windows' to the world so to speak, it more accurate to say that our eyes take in input and use that data to generate a 3d model of reality. It follows then that if you were to mess with the reality-gen software, you could make practically anything happen to you. Imagine poking your brain with an electrode and inducing orgasmic visions. Is there any reason to believe psychadelics are any different to that?

 No.58470

>>44970
It could be good if you managed to get customers on the internet. Real life dealing wit require knowing lots of people and strong charisma to find new people.
And shrooms are hard to sell irl.
I don't know how many buy on the internet but it would probably be worth a try.

 No.58685

>>58405
>Imagine poking your brain with an electrode and inducing orgasmic visions. Is there any reason to believe psychadelics are any different to that?
im pretty sure psychedelics "free" your mind more than alter it like an electrode would. i think its pretty nutty to think that mushrooms just have ideas like being one with everything encoded in them, its more likely that the people taking them are being "allowed" to realize these ideas. plus what other drugs can somewhat reliably communicate ideas? if psychedelics can make you think about hippie stuff then shouldnt you be able to make someone think about other stuff with a drug?

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Shruum

 No.60365

>>58405
The point is that your everyday reality is the same too. Your sober model of reality is just a model altered by neurochemicals too. It's like if you were to visit two different planets with different cultures and lifestyles: afterwards you don't claim that the place you visited from the 'correct culture', but it showed you that neither culture is correct. A fish likely doesn't realise it is wet unless you pull it out of the water for a while

 No.60366

It feels like there is something wrong with the way I process hallucinogens in general. It’s almost always a negative experience.
I took a 50 gram dose of truffles. Zero visuals aside from the slightest sense of wall breathing and waving my hands seeming to have a longer trail-blur. I became profoundly upset at how small, spidery and succubus-like my hands were. I then spent at least 6 hours believing death did not end suffering and eternal, unescapable reincarnation into more suffering was real, and there was no way to ever be at peace or end. I talked with another person and thought that there were only two eternal, omnipotent consciousnesses in existence (Me and You), and that all of creation was a game they were playing to try to bring themselves together, and that if they ever did come together (no idea what this means) everything would cease to exist, but that this would not ever happen and they would forever suffer alone. It was possibly the worst psychological experience of my life. The idea of eternal reincarnation that I had never entertained before now scares me as much as or more than death.
Another time I took less truffles, again no visuals, but saw everything as existentially futile and tried to kill myself by holding my breath.
The problem is, both times I was then somehow less depressed and more conscientious for weeks/months afterwards, so I keep taking them. Not truffles since they seem to be the worst. I started taking 0.5g of mushrooms every two weeks so that I don’t have to trip, but still get the aftereffects. I’m increasing the dose a bit each time, but at whatever threshold it turns into a nightmare I won’t go up to again.
I fucking HATE psychedelics. I take them regularly. Idk.

 No.60462

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I've tried growing a couple different times. First time I did what is called the Uncle Ben's Tek where you use rice in bags from the grocery store and innoculate them with spores and seal them with micropore tape. Once the bags colonize, you break them up into tubberware bins and treat them like any other grow. Keep them under light, keep the moisture good, etc etc.
People on Reddit post amazing results, and mine looked really promising until it dried out and began to mold. I believe it got taken over by trich, a common mold that contaminates grows.
So that was a bust. I ended up burying it all in my yard next to a stump, and lo-and-behold, once in a while a mushroom will pop up! I ate one and it was a-okay. Pic related, look at that fine little man.

I tried another time. This time I used the more well known brown rice Tek, and I had more results from that one. I had some fruits, but they were skinny and didn't look healthy. I harvested them when I thought things were going south, and I actually still have them dried out in a bag. That batch also got taken out by trich.

What's funny is I have no problem eating the ones that grew outside, but the ones I grew in my own closet get the side-eye and I will not eat them.

Since these two experiences, I've taken to simply buying them and paying someone else for their labor. It's worth it to me.

 No.60464

>>60462
looks good wizzie, hope the spores spread outside. if such shrooms grow on your land easy, maybe you can grow giant puffballs outside too, also tasty


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