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>was never the guy
>never drew a dime
>over pushed and has over stayed his welcome
>most hated wrestler of all time
>worst babyface of all time
>worst face of the company
>worst promo skills ever displayed
>was carried by Seth & Dean
>has been fed legit stars like Cena, HHH, Taker, ect. and he still can't get over
>has buried many up and coming talents
>terrible wrestling skills, matches are sleep inducing and predictable
>Brock's personal jobber
>"Sufferin' Succotash"
>his bitch catchphrase is cringe
>only being pushed because of his skin color
>only reason he's employed is because of Dwayne
>even Dwayne couldn't get this loser over
>mark for himself
>his "fans" are either ironic contrarion neckbeards or retarded casuals, soccer moms, or fifth world Pakis.
>he lazily kept his SHIELD theme and look, proving he's stuck in the past
>he's the modern day Luger but if they actually made him the top guy
>is an arrogant, conceited prick who doesn't care about the business
>leeches off his family heritage
>tries to act cool and tough on Twitter but always gets BTFO by everyone
>has one of the weakest looking Spears in history
>devalues every belt, feud, promo, storyline he touches
>took the US and IC belts as a demotion and pouted
>has ruined FOUR WrestleManias in a row
>Cena owned him so hard that Roman was legit mad
> https://youtu.be/36cLMYMrOTk nuff said
>drug addict
>injury prone and always sick
>gives Vince alot of grief to deal with
>always gets sick or hurt at the worst times like the SHIELD reunion
>SHIELD reunion flopped hard because of him
>turned people away in record numbers
>the ratings and attendances dropped to dangerously low numbers with him as top guy
>failed at football
>should be called the little dog
>ugly merchandise
>had to wear contacts to hide his shit brown eyes
>is worshipped like a god in India because he's almost the same shit color as them
>all the old school minds and wrestlers think he's terrible
>has drawn the ire of social media and the rest of the world since day one
>booked way too strong
>the attempts to get him cheered through plants and manipulation is embarrassing
>the attempts to make him sympathetic is laughably bad
>even Vince is tired of him, only HHH seems to be horny for him still


He's gonna main event every Wrestlemania till Vince dies.


>still watching WWE
Why would you do this to yourself. The product is fucking godawful and unwatchable, good matches here and there do not make up for the abysmal writing and booking. Just watch NJPW or ROH or something.


Not even the Rock could lift the dead weight of his cousin Roman.


last NXT PPV was one of the greatest of all time. Meltzer gave a five star rating to 2 matches and NXT is still WWE.


WrestleMania 33 was ruined without Roman's help: Goldberg vs Brock Lesnar, Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton, Undertaker breaking kayfabe with his wife. TV ratings in autumn 2017-spring 2018 were not as bad as many considered them to be. The first Backlash after brand split (SmackDown Live exclusive at that time): 7,000 people in attendance. That's abysmal.

What really strikes me is how many kids in attendance still have Cena and Orton merch on. As well as loud pops for them. Both are veterans. And rather than chanting "boring" audience chant "Rusev Day" when he's not even in the match.


According to Plebbit, NJPW's booking is way worse than last year. ROH is just leeching off Bullet Club. Impact seems to be on the rise tho.


That Undertaker thing pissed me off so goddamn much. The one man who has never broken his character on screen did it, and for fucking what? For a fake retirement that was only meant to put DA BIG DAWG over (and of course failed).

NJPW's booking might not be the greatest nowadays but it's still way above and beyond of what WWE shits out, and the matches are generally just as good if not better. Impact will probably never get anywhere near the popularity it used to have at it's peak, it's a dead and tainted brand and it would take many, many years for them to really rebuild if it's even doable.


>NJPW's booking is way worse than last year
well, yeah. 2017 njpw was one of their best years, and a lot of people started watching then so they think 2017 quality is going to be every year.


Smarks should have just shut up and let Roman win in 2015 instead of shit chanting, then this experiment wouldn't have gone on for so long.


Any of you wizzies ever been to a wrestling event WWE or other wise? When I was living in Shreveport I saw a few WCW and WWF house shoes and when my family moved to Houston I saw WrestleMania 17, 25 the smackdown after 9/11 and a few more shows. The show is so fucking bad now.


Vince would push his favorite big boy regardless of any reactions or lack of thereof, I think this is obvious by now.


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Was siftig through TakeOver screenshots I took and noticed something, googled and found: wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/fans-notice-an-angry-rusev-orders-lana-to-get-out-on-the-nxt-takeover-brooklyn-4-video-screens/

>someone decided to take some screenshots of the video wall that stretches across the Barclays Center and apparently, there are hidden messages.

>Most of it looks like HTML code but if you look closely, you’ll see that one of the lines read, “an angry Rusev orders Lana to get out.”
>the line comes from a YouTube video description from 2015 that reads: “An angry Rusev orders Lana to get out of the locker room area following his loss to U.S. Champion.”

"Payback 2015 results" (where Rusev had I Quit match) was seen too.


Roman is so unpopular the finish for tonight pay pet view was 4 other guys climb the cage and then Brock comes out and beats everyone up.


$9.99 a month is $10 too much to watch WWE these days.


RAW 25 got all attention, SmackDownLive 1000th episode so far got it far less. 205 Live will have 100th episode very soon but no one cares. I noticed that when RAW superstars went to charity meeting they presented kids with Universal Title. Fair. Then when Daniel Bryan, R-Truth and Charlotte went there they presented Universal Championship as well. Even though they are not from RAW. Previously they presented either both or WWE Championship only. Hell in a Cell color, WWE Championship being the most prestigious in WWE mentioned by AJ Styles and Paige as if they noticed that everyone had noticed it not being in PPV main events.

WWE Universal Championship named after WWE Universe. World title is called Universal. I don't like the name.


I actually cried during this last RAW. My prayers to Roman.


What happened?


he has cancer


Oh shit.
I never liked him as a wrestler but still he is a good dude and I really wish him well. That is actually pretty sad. Sometimes you forget that these titans of athleticism and entertainment are still only human and effected by devastating yet "normal" shit like cancer.


It's not just cancer. It's fucking leukemia, one of the deadliest types of cancer out there, and the fact that it's RETURNING is very, very bad news.


I don't follow WWE all that much anymore but this was legit heartbreaking.


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I think in addition to Tribute to the Troops I'll watch The New Day's 2018 Pancake Powered Year-End Super Spectacular this week.


Rock Star Spud was great in TNA. He was the perfect little whiny bitch heel, paired well with Grado.

WWE put him with 2 mystery meats and never let him do anything. He got buried harder than Paige's latest dildo.


Rumors that the mechanism didn't work and he pissed himself naturally live in front of the thousands of people and cameras in that position still amaze me.


At least now he's focused on being the GM of one of the best brands in WWE, albeit some of his top guys are being drafted to Raw & Smackdown live.


Honestly, I'll never stop watching ROH (Dalton just turned, by gawd, and Silas… waiting for Cody to return) but if I had free access to watching WWE again I probably would.

Free CONVENIENT that is. I know I can watch free streams but it's too much bother. Only if my mom was buying a cable plan that included it and I could watch it on her TV and lie on a couch and maybe get my bro to come watch it with me.


Make the switch to AEW




I'm not supporting Jim Cornette on everything but that battle royal was abysmal goofy shit for the serious opportunity.


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Based champ.


I have just watched NEW Extreme I'VE from New European Championship Wrestling on FightBox H TV channel. Russian commentators are the worst.

Exposing the business: "of course it's theatricalized but injuries occur as well and _insert wrestler's name_ decided to walk away", "look the part of the ring is caving in like it's a springboard".

Fail at naming: "warrior" was translated as "barbarian" and then the commentator himself said that it was inaccurate, "Hellvetic Warrior. In a friendly way let's call him simply Hellvetic". English shortened him as Warrior but it's not about that. "In a friendly way" is not for such genre.

Ring announcer and wrestlers on the mic were silenced. That's what happens when you hire outsiders to announce pro wrestling.


*NEW Extreme IV, FightBox HD, English commentators.


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205 Live is about to merge with NXT per Triple H. I liked the show. More likely I'll watch Cruiserweight Classics and old Monday Night Raw in its place. I'm still in 1993.

Worlds Collide will happen during Royal Rumble week. I watched previous ones because of the main roster and 205 roster involved. If no main roster involved I can not watch it or I can watch it because of tradition of watching the previous ones. TakeOvers but not UK TakeOvers and weekly NXTs are still to be watched. I'll watch NXT's third episode on USA Network and AEW first episode just for the historic moment. Not sure about first and second episodes of NXT.

NWA weekly series debut is on the way too but I'll pass.


I got the feeling of different interpretations being possible due to NXT UK being mentioned too and they wouldn't be merged. Still the danger was real due to ambiguity.



Just watch AEW, it's so good.


That show is fucking cancer and a complete disgrace to professional wrestling. I'll stick to NWA Power.


Thanks to Meltzer's praise of Will Ospreay this year I think I'll watch Wrestle Kingdom in January.


I never saw the appeal of Ospreay, he just seems like another flippy guy with little to no charisma.


AEW is so goofy and cartoony that it makes 80s WWF look like a gritty crime drama.

NWA POWER is a meme promotion full of washed up WWE/TNA wrestlers.


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XFL crate at the WWE Performance Center.


Is anyone still watching? I've gotten back into wrestling. Even if it sucks now, it's one of those things from my childhood that has a fanbase that gets older with it.


I stopped watching WWE months and months ago when I realized how damn bored I was trying to sit through a whole episode of any of their programming (and and this was before Corona, it's even worse now), and gave up on AEW when they made Nyla the "succubi's" champ. Indy scene is full of virtue signalling bullshit, millenial snark and gymnastic guys who look like the people I buy coffee from down the street as opposed to intimidating fighters, I just can't get into it. I was content for a while to just listen to recordings of WOL and WOR (when it's not Jim Valley) and getting recaps from WrestleTalk, but in the last little while I don't even care enough for that. At this point the closest thing I do to consume wrestling is occasionally shitpost on a wrestling imageboard.

However, I still respect the industry as a whole for what it is and the kind of skill it takes to actually do it well. It deserves more respect than people give it in that regard, they just think "hurr durr fake fights anyone can do that" which is false and ignorant.


I watched each episode of SmackDown when it was taped and had the same roster as RAW. The opening theme was often the only saving grace. With such experience watching modern WWE is a piece of cake.

This Monday was so bad in general that I think taking list of tropes from TVtropes and just pick something using random number generator would create a far better product. Or using one thing from South Park.

205 Live is 20 minutes only now and is basiccally NXT's appendage. At least they show recaps since I don't watch weekly NXT. The PPVs became shorter which is good. I'll still watch regardless but Vince not pushing new talent enfuriates me more and more.


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2018 rumor that never came to life, but damn I like the logo.


I've been watching WWE, AEW, and started watching Impact. WWE's angles are too predictable and they screwed over a lot of people so Roman could be champ and dominate the scene and with AEW I just don't really like Jon Moxley or any of the people presented as faces and the Dark Order just seems corny as hell.

I'm also watching the ROH Pure Tournament since even though it's just what's left over after WWE raided it to put people on NXT, it's been good so far.

I'm such a mark that I now also watch NJPW. Ugh.


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They literally named a heel from what meant to be a serious faction Slapjack. And Dijakovic deserved better.


I'm pretty sure Vince hates Retribution and is purposely burying them hard.

Wrestling in 2020 is pretty bad. WWE is dead, AEW seemed promising, but it's corny and goofy as fuck, Impact is a relic from the 2000's, and Japanese feds are either really boring or super cringy.

I've been watching wrestling ever since I was a kid, and these modern shows have made me realize that I'm not really that interested in it anymore. Everything has been done, there's no new stars no engaging characters or entertaining stories, it's just tired and old now. I tried to like Indy wrestling, but they're so cheesy and unprofessional looking that it kind of took me out of it: seeing skinny fat dorks doing cosplay and flips isn't wrestling, that's cringe.

kayfabe is also a big reason I can't stand modern wrestling, seeing someone like for example, Braun, crying about being bullied or shilling for make a wish, when he's supposed to be a monster, just ruins him in my eyes.


NXT India about to launch in 2021. RAW, SmackDown, NXT, NXT UK, 205 Live, Main Event, This Week in WWE, The Bump, NXT India, Raw Talk, Talking Smack. Just weekly series from one company. And then there's rumors about NXT Asia (China, Japan, Singapore).


NXT is fucking lame, nothing but vanilla midgets, ugly succubi and Triple H and his buddies running the show into the ground.


I love listening to Cornette bury AEW


I honestly dont know how you guys can still watch this. It hasnt been interesting in years .


WrestleMania week was awesome. Watched:
Mn: RAW (2h 3m), RAW Talk (32m)
Tu: Hall of Fame 2020 (1h 32m), Hall of Fame 2021 (1h 29m)
Wd: NXT TakeOver Stand & Deliver Night 1 Pre-Show (1h), NXT TakeOver Stand & Deliver Night 1 (2h 5m)
Th: NXT TakeOver Stand & Deliver Night 2 Pre-Show (1h), NXT TakeOver Stand & Deliver Night 2 (2h 41m)
Fr: SmackDown (1h 25m), 205 Live (52m)
Sat: Talking Smack (30m), WrestleMania Night 1 Kickoff (1h), WrestleMania Night 1 (3h 38m)
Su: WrestleMania Night 2 Kickoff (1h), WrestleMania Night 2 (3h 18m)
Mn: RAW (2h 4m), RAW Talk (31m)

By my calculations that's 26h 40m or 3h 20m per day. I didn't watch NXT UK, won't watch weekly NXT on Tuesday or other promotions.

I listened to one 1-hour podcast by Meltzer and Alvarez though I skipped AEW discussion so it was about 40 minutes instead. Cornette released a 3-hour Experience podcast a few days ago so I'll listen that, maybe Drive-Thru podcast will arrive in the meantime. Something to listen to while checcin about 5100 screenshots. WWE SuperCard unveiled new highest tier specifically for the event (WrestleMania '37). Everybody got one card for free.


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Delhi Sports Athelte Shop. (India)


But OP wrestling is all fake do you dislike his character or the way that he performs?


OP might have a different opinion about current Reigns, the Head of the Table.


Modern Roman is the only interesting thing about WWE, I'm so happy they're finally leaving the thunderdome.


>I'm pretty sure Vince hates Retribution and is purposely burying them hard.

I think he hates all the members of Retribution for having the audacity to have match of the year candidates back in NXT. Dijack VS Lee at TakeOver Portland was absolute ace.


as someone who used to watch WWE in the early 2000s and stopped, then randomly came back a few years later i saw him and didn't even know he was a star. hes nothing like the older stars.


That's kind of the point. They're pushing younger stars so that they'll be stars of the company for a long damn time before they have to retire or some shit.


WWE is scared of another Rock or Austin so much they bury their own stars for people like Roman. Vince has never really forgiven Rock for moving to Hollywood and leaving him high and dry. Same with Austin walking out. So now Vince apparently wants to make the company the star and the wrestlers have to be interchangeable twitch/reality tv people where one leaving is replaced by another from the back room.


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Any Bray Wyatt marks around these parts of the internet? The Undertaker was my favorite wrestler as a kid, I just love the archetype of the high powerlevel supernatural wrestler who makes rare appearances to fuck shit up, so it was kinda given that I took a liking into Bray Wyatt. His early crazy southern priest interpretation was cool but I'm also into the new Fiend stuff. He's mostly being booked like an absolute geek but I still love the whole character and the showmanship around him. Just let him win, Vince.


>defeated the Undertaker clean


Aquaman live action actor said he's often asked if he's Reigns so perhaps Roman is somewhat popular among non-smarks.


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FUCK Hulk Hogan

FUCK the faggot WWE universe


Emotionally arrested at an elementary school age. After all, unless retarded, most people only found stuff like muscle men cool in a non-gay way back when children. It's also why there's so much vitriol towards someone having a sexuality at all, not having sex but a sexuality to begin with. 'They're' like 8 year olds with a higher IQ. Literal he man succubus haters club anti-libidos here that get angry if you admit to fapping (to 3d) as anime is for pedos after all they can keep fapping safe from police to anime as 8 year olds. I'm not baiting, this is just how I ended up profiling people after they showed their personality to me here too many times.

Also autists have fixations, that's another one, and they won't realize it's very bad acting either way, emotional arrestment nor autism route will likely notice bad acting.

There's more than one type of wizard in other words. You and I are probably not autistic nor emotionally arrested.



I hate Drew McIntyre so much it's unreal.


this pretty much


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Watch Kinnikuman and say that again. WWE/F sumo and muscle men shounen are pure light. Anime is definitely for pedos. As we all know those guys are definitely attracted to large wrestlers that could twist them into a chinese noodle


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This CM Punk stuff is the most interesting thing to happen in years.


Not really. Punk has a huge ego and went into business for himself. The other vanilla midgets with huge egos got into a slap fight with him. It's faggots fighting other faggots over petty internal drama.

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