No.44216
>>44214that's not important…
What is important is who would win, Xj9 or Shannon? i think XJ9 even if they are similar XJ9 seems to have much more raw strenght, but I haven't seen much of OK K.O.
No.44220
No.
Just no.
Why did you /b/tards have to mess up the cartoon thread?
It was for sincer high minded discution of animation, not a troll/bait thread.
Killed yet another think that I like on this site with your shitposting.
Fuck you
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No.44256
Im Looking foward the owl hose for the next year.
No.44498
>there must be a reason why almost all of the cartoons is calarts style
oh, is that what the new style is called?
>aybe is because of the time they spend on the story
I always thought it was our descent into idiocracy
No.44503
>>44497It has it's flaws but it is one of the best western adult animated series ever, and literally the only one I can think of that isn't in any way shape or form a comedy.
No.44504
All cartoons are calarts because it's the popular style for the times. Go back to past decades and you'll find the vast majority of cartoons had a similar artstyle as well.
No.44505
>>44504being popular doesn't explain why it has to look so utterly hideous, unless ugly and dumb is what's popular
idk
No.44506
>>44505The 90s is arguably more hideous than calarts.
No.44507
>>44506I've never heard that argument. How does it go?
No.44508
>>44507My fault. I took hideous as "gross".
No.44509
>>44508well, what's the difference?
No.44522
>>44520Avatar series was pretty beautiful tho. As were most marvel and dc adaptations.
No.44524
this is vulnerable to being the lowest common denominator media, no?
No.44525
>>44523They weren't created in Japan nor by Japs, so they are clearly cartoons (i.e. western animation). Avatar was even released on fucking Nickelodeon - how more cartoony can it get?
No.44527
>>44523So by your standards anything that you think doesn't look bad ain't "cartoony" and no, the animated DC shows and movies didn't imitate anime nor use so called "anime short cuts". I think you have a very narrow view of western animation, cartoons, and what is and isn't good.
No.44528
>>44524Have you seen live action shows aimed at anyone younger then 25?
Certain trends in cartoons right now maybe shit but there is no comparison when you take a wider view of the media landscape.
No.44529
>>44522You also have to remember that was at the hight of "gross out cartoons. For every good looking cartoon there were 3 or 4 trying to be ugly on purpose.
No.44874
>>44524Yes, cartoons are basically the Anti-Anime.
>>44528Absolute bullshit, tween Sitcoms at least are marginally more mature and well, use real people.
No.44883
>>44497I wonder why angela nevers apppear anymore on the show
No.44884
I already watched the last season of samurai jack. The ending was not the thing i expected. It as disappointing
No.44895
>>44894Haven't got around to it yet, I have seen mixed reaction to it but it looks good to me.
No.45609
>>45602Flapjack was just a spongebob knockoff
No.45611
Why people can't just let this ridiculous threads die? every month or so we get one or two rando replies.
No.45612
>>45609It was also the last children's cartoon to do gross out humor correctly.
The one kind of humor that spongebob can't ever get right.
No.45734
>>45733Ren and stimpy was good cause it had more going for it than gross out though. It had a lot of funny non-sequitur moments like toast man, and some plain funny jokes.
No.45736
>>45733Ren and Stimpy is fantastic.
No.45837
>>45835>Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the SeaFuck's sake, I completely forgot about this series, it creeped the fuck out og me as a kid, but I still found it fascinating and watched the crap out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDDrIgWCYC8Feels so weird watching it after so many years, remembering things you though were forgotten for more than decade. Still rather unnerving, can't quite put my finger on why exactly, but it was the shit back in the day.
No.45841
>>45838Roland Topor’s work like all surrealist crap is very disturbing, sinister even… how did you get to watch this movie as a kid? You may be closer to the truth than you think when you say it fucked up your psyche, even adults shouldn’t watch this abomination. I may sound like a nutjob but this movie felt almost satanic to me, I cannot explain. It is the same with surrealism art in general, it just feels… off.
No.45847
>>45835Reminded me of watching this as a kid
literally anti normie
>The main theme of Momo can be seen as a criticism of consumerism and stress.[1][2] It describes the personal and social losses produced by unnecessary consumption, and the danger to be driven by a hidden interest group with enough power to induce people into this life style. Michael Ende has also stated to have had the concept of aging money in mind when writing Momo.[3]
>Childhood is also an important subject in many of Ende's books. In Momo it is used to offer contrast with the adult society. As children have "all the time in the world", they are a difficult target for the Men in Grey: children can't be convinced that their games are time-wasting. The author uses a mockery of Barbie dolls and other expensive toys as symbols to show how anyone can be persuaded, even indirectly, into consumerism.[1][2] No.45850
>>45835>>45837>>Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the SeaAs someone who loves the hollow earth premise for fiction this is really interesting. The only problem I'm too lazy these days to muster the courage to watch a series and this cartoon has two seasons with a bunch of episodes.
Curious thing, it's not uncommon I end up reading spoilers for the media I do intend to watch but I'm looking for a plot summary for this whole series and can't find it anywhere. It seems when I want to have a plot spoiled the internet refuses to cooperate.
Anyway thanks for posting these.
No.45926
>>44523>Avatar was trying it's hardest to be AnimeThere were tons of bad western anime attempts back then, and Avatar was least try-hard and shameless out of the bunch. Look at Totally Spies, which is weird since the French had a better connection to anime than Americans did.
Its biggest influences were Ghibli with some minor ones most wouldn't notice, like Jet being based on Spike from Cowboy Bebop. The majority of the rest of the influences are overly western like Lord of the Rings or the Patriot, or Asian but non-Japanese like Chinese martial arts and war history.
No.45927
>>44523Anime beatiful because Disney was beautiful, japs love classic Disney.
No.46076
I never watched avatar. I heard lots of people killed themselves because of that flick. Is it true?
No.46077
>>46076You're mixing up James Cameron's Avatar with Last Airbender.
No.46078
>>46076>I heard lots of people killed themselves because of that flick. Is it true?What the fuck, no that isn't true as far as I have heard.
No.46099
>>46090I liked it until the cringy rap part.
It is the 90s all over again in a bad way.
No.46126
>>45889The final one.
Part 4.
No.46554
>>46090I been watching this show. I like it, butmakes me wonder why almost every moder cartoon has anime influences?
No.46558
>>46554Because the people behind them like anime and want to reference them?
No.46561
>>46558Yes but why do they like it, or claim to like it if it goes against their "principles" also if they like it so much why don't they put effort to make something that actually resembles Anime? OK KO is the worst one that does this even for a cartoon it looks bad, yet it claims to be Anime-like? wtf.
No.46567
>>46556Who is the guy besides Juniper Lee, behind Puff Amy Yumi?
No.46572
>>46561Not every single person in western animation is is like whoever you're talking about.
>why don't they put effort to make something that actually resembles Anime?Probably because cartoons primarily exist to sell toys to kids and they're drawn in a style that appeals to them, much like most anime are created to sell merch or advertise existing properties.
No.46576
>>46556Why does the pic have all these characters together? Johnny Bravo and Schnitzel, or Mojo Jojo and the Saturdays, or Shaggy and Double D etc have eons in between. Flapjack should definitely have gone with the rest of the bottom.
No.46710
>>46706>>46707Turns out the main person behind it was also heavily involved in Adventure time so that may explain some of it. Also a lot of the animation was outsourced to a few small Japaneses studios.
No.46714
>>46572Western cartoons are made by incompetent faggots and people who actively hate traditional beauty. They have created a culture of rejecting all criticism and depending on cliques rather than talent. It is why everything looks like shit.
No.46716
>>46714>and people who actively hate traditional beautyThe standard "traditional beauty" is boring subjective trash and nothing good comes out of doing nothing new with art. In fact that's the main problem people have with the modern look of shows, it's all boring, looks the same and completely safe, financially too(very cheap to make and won't scare people off by appearing too different)
No.46717
>>46716Your “all looks the same” point really falls flat when a million other cartoons copied adventure time’s style and now it’s industry standard.
No.46721
>>46717>In fact that's the main problem people have with the modern look of shows, it's all boring, looks the same I don't know how I made that unclear, and I don't now how it disproves what I've said
No.46722
In fact, the modern style always has the basic components of what people find "cute" anyway. Small bodies with big heads and big eyes, very colorful and simple. That's basically "traditional beauty" at least when it comes to cartoons, east or west. The AT style considered new and bold once but so was any boring style once too. It's the repetitive nature of the industry that dulls it down.
Look at something like EEnE, it gets much more praise in comparison to any modern show but it fits no standard of "beauty".
That's such a restrictive concept for any cartoonist unless you're talking about good animation or some pin-up drawing.
No.46723
>>44220I haven't checked these threads in months but this shit worried me too
No.46746
>>46722But that cartoon looks ugly as hell, but if fits to the theme, it is definetly non-conventional.
No.46961
>>46942Not bad. MC isn't overly obnoxious and the idea that every cart is its own whole world makes possibilities endless. I just hope they don't throw in annoying recurring characters.
No.46970
>>46942Maybe it's just because the wizard above mentioned it, but this just seems like a rip off of adventure time. At least the art style isn't 100% noodle limbs and potato smiles.
No.46971
>>46942feels too derivative, too 'modern' and like it's 'trying too hard',
but I'll give it a chance for at least a few episodes to see if I can get over those feelings
>>44220well I hope you are still here, trying to promote the kind of healthy discussion you desire
>>45115Thanks I didn't even know this existed
No.46972
>>46971Yeah, that was many months ago and I have calmed down and have been trying to practice what I preach by trying to keep discourse on my part civil and the content I post of some sort of quality.
No.46973
Please tell me how to scratch the neon comedy itch.
These faggots cancelled Moonbeam City after only 10 episodes.
What a loss for humanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDF4bMoo0KM No.47003
>>46942Looks like hot trash, yet another Adventure Time clone, as if AT wasnt bad enough, how the hell did that crap became popular is beyond me.
No.47004
>>46970>>47003You know having an animal companion is not an Adventure Time convention. AT is a DnD campaign for giggles, while this is a mystery driven plot.
This is like when people will call any game where it's a guy with a sword to be a ripoff of Dark Souls.
No.47006
>>47004But her companion isn't an animal, it's that robot thing. The animal is only there for that on train car. It makes me think of adventure time because it looks like it has a modular show formula, a huge universe that will be very unsatisfactorily explored, and a main plot that will seldom be touched upon. But this applies to a lot of things anyway. SU, regular show, and most other modern cartoons do this.
No.47007
>>47003The format works well for tv.
In that you can catch a ep at any point of a season with few exceptions and still know what's going on and enjoy. It also means that it can be broadcast out of order and watched out of order. Another important factor is they can keep the show going for as long as there is strong demand. It works well for cable tv channels, not so much for binge watching where you want a more linear and focused story.
I feel that Steven Universe is the worst of both worlds in this regard. (I still watch it though)
No.47103
watching chowder, and I love it, but by golly, do I pity him. I pity him so much.
Firstly, the show is great. I get a lot of chuckles out of the jokes, and I don't usually laugh. I think it's a lot of slapstick, but there's a lot of jokes with great punchlines too. The characters are pretty loveable, and I think Shnitzel and Mung Dall are my favorites, since they make me laugh so much. Shnitzel is the punching bag and brute, so his character works off of Mung's authority and off of being the punching bag for Chowder. Mung dall works off chowder by ALSO being a punching bag. Everyone is Chowder's punching bag, it seems. I remember a lot of jokes around Chowder screwing something up or hurting Shnitzel in some way, but there are jokes centered around Chowder being a kid as well. Truffles though, I don't really think much of her in a joking sense. He marriage jokes are by far the funniest she gets, and she works off of Mung with him being the start of the joke and her line being the punchline. Other than that, she's just an angry fairy that I really don't care much about. Mung Dall also has jokes about his personality, like his love of his mustache, or him trying to be a lady's man. He dresses up as Truffles in the rat sandwich episode, so it's really about him being and acting silly as well using his insecurities and flaws as his jokes.
He can't cook for heck.
He's a scatterbrain. He forgets orders, can't follow directions, and can't listen. It's not even his fault.
His only rival is Panini, who is CRAZY. Literally CRAZY, and she can cook better than him.
His master's rival, Endive, from what I'm seeing in season one, is also crazy, but is as good, or better, than his master, Mung Dall. We never hear about her kitchen exploding or anything going wrong. By now, they've leveled an city, ruined their kitchen multiple times, and just been pitiable.
Panini is also his love interest, and as said before, she is CRAZY. She is obsessed and STALKS the guy. She's delusional, and even though the banana baby was played for laughs or some kind of trick to get near Chowder, she gets way to close to the guy. She tries not to leave his side for so long, and near the end, jumps in his clothes, tries to trick him to kiss her, which would be sexual assault by today's standards, and at the end, fake cries to get sympathy to get him to care. Then, she does it again, and I swear to god, she was definitely fake crying, to actually get him to hug or show affection to her. She immediately snaps out of it. Fake. My sister fake cried, so I know how it is.
I feel so bad for Shnitzel too.
Endive is crazy, and in love, and in episode 17 or 18, he quits, is hired by Endive, and she freaks him out so much by putting on a fake marriage, freaks him out, then freaks out herself for being "rejected", despite him never showing any interest, and then, hits him with a rolling pin, cooks him to "open him up to the possibility to marriage", chases him through her house, and then, pins him to a high balcony where he chooses to jump versus be subjected to any of her BS again. Jesus, and Endive is so nonchalant to it too, saying that every man chooses to jump instead of be with her. It's happened multiple times. The guy's underpaid at either mimimum wage or just above it by then too. Throughout the show, he constantly gets the bad side of the broom, and it all culminates to this episode where all of his work pays off. I keep on re-watching that scene, and it shows how obsessive and crazy both Panini and Endive are. They're one of the same.
Yeah, so great show, but their lives are actually really bad it seems. Pretty wizardly. Sorry if this is incoherent. I didn't want to bother with the first paragraph, which was added in near the end and edited. I could probably put sentences in different places, but I am lazy.
No.47159
>>47103you have mental problems man.
No.47160
>>47159his post seemed pretty normal to me.
No.47311
>>47103who is the cartoon character with the most bad life?
No.47319
>>47159what part of that post is mental to you? you must be a visitor from normalfag 8chan or something, get fucked. writing a post longer than a tweet's character limit is not mental illness you anti-intellectual faggot.
No.47322
>>47103Chowder is a positively mad show, wild architecture and stories, though the Flash static texture attachment with moving contours gave me nausea.
No.47339
So what were some of the best and/or worse new shows of 2018?
What are you looking forward to?
No.47342
>>47311What a hard question.
Here's a breakdown since I can't think of a straight answer.
Chowder -
Gets married with Panini at the end, who is a psycho who is obsessed with him to stalkerish levels. Never leaves him alone, but she's obviously a better cook, so she can probably pay the bills. However, he has to deal with her. Chowder himself has ADHD, but that lessens with age. I know. He doesn't really learn any real cooking at the end, but I think he'll be fine unless he literally learned nothing. Like, he's an apprentice teaching another apprentice with like, 20 kids, no joking, and a business that's going to fall in the future. His entire life could have been straightened up in the few years, but the jump cut killed him.Shnitzel -
Marries Endive, who is as crazy as Panini. Probably more, in fact. He looked so distressed when marrying her, and she was also obsessed with him to the point where she cornered him and he decided to jump versus deal with her. Because he later marries Endive, he probably quits his job as Mung's assistant, which is odd since he's painted to be so useful. He probably has to deal with his wife as a job now.Mung - Nothing much for him, actually.
He gets along with his wife well enough, honestly. I truly don't think he and his wife hate each other. I think their jokes are truly in jest. Still, he has to live with his apprentice until he "graduates" to take over the company and destroy it. He cares about Chowder in one scene, but others like the basement scene with the mold where he quickly jests about getting another apprentice. Also, the dragon episode where Chowder eats hot peppers, he replaces him quickly. Still, he SEEMS to care, I think? Chowder only causes destruction in all the episodes, and is so quick to leave his apprenticeship for new found "dreams" or horrible blunders which Mung never corrects him on or scolds him too much. The most punishment he's gotten was no dinner, and he actually tries to give Chowder dinner anyways. Still, I'm sure most episodes, Chowder causes the mishaps. Truly, it's his fault most of the times.Panini and Endive - They're together since they're both crazy. I pity them both for their mental diseases. Panini is so obsessed with Chowder that she's really, truly 2D in both personality and likeness. She has some personality, like her great cooking abilities, her leadership qualities, her duty to Endive, etc. but seriously, it's more than a crush.
The last episode has her stricken to not have Chowder in her life. It's sad since she's so very talented compared to Chowder. She really is going places.
Endive is probably better at cooking than Mung in the "orderly" department, but I am not sure if she's a better chef in other facets. I've yet to see her blow up her kitchen or cause massive destruction. Her apprentice is dutiful and competent. She shows a lot of promise. Even Panini's one downside doesn't get in the way of Endive's work or goals. She has a giant business with a pool, and can afford berries and other luxuries. She's done very well for herself, it seems, and I'm quite happy to see that. Still, she is dreadfully alone. She seems to have a crush on Mung and Shnitzel, and for her, *thankfully, does get married, making her candidacy for this null. Still, as said before, it's possible Shnitzel doesn't enjoy the marriage too much anyways. I hope they do well and nothing breaks her heart. She's obviously super desperate.**
So, in the future, I would say Chowder and possibly Panini
who has to deal with him and probably carry. Also, Chowder's apprentice wasting his time, of course. Then, I would say Shnitzel for
his marriage and then Endive
for the obvious divorce that will happen.I've still not seen many episodes since then. I've probably only seen three since the initial post, so I can keep you updated on whose life is the worst. Before
the final episode though, it would be Mung and Shnitzel. Shnitzel has to clean up the messes Chowder makes, Mung has to deal with his horrible apprentice. Chowder seems too carefree to notice how he's going to fail. I knew when I was going to fail, and I was right.
No.47346
>>47342Weren't shippings quite secondary in the series? I watched Chowder a lot but barely remember them.
No.47369
>>47344It has been like 6 months since I watched a ep but yeah, it is a pretty good show.
No.47499
>>47346I'm on season two right now, and the shippings are pretty simple.
Chowder wants no one thus far
Panini wants Chowder
Ceviche wants Panini
And there's an episode based around Gazpacho where a succubus bullies him because she likes him. Not sure what happens after that, but Gazpacho seems like truwiz material. Never finished the episode though. Guy doesn't have a girlfriend, lives with his mother, owns a stand, and his only friend is really Chowder, a kid.
There's also Endive's romantic interest in Shnitzel in season one's final episode. It will probably carry over to season two as well.
Also, Chowder is such a beast so far. There was an episode where he "flang mud" at Panini to stop her from becoming some kind of president to the Apprentice guild or something. In another episode not too far away, Chowder had to study for the B.L.Ts so he could actually practice cooking, and if he failed, he would never be able to cook again. In that episode, Panini, obviously, was hired to help him study, and he freaked out. During the end of the scene, the madman threw a BOOK at her head. I love it so much. I love this kind of ferocity that he's showing to Panini, and I hope it continues. It's absolute gold. I actually wonder if she'll really break instead of act like she's so astonished and heart broken? It would have been beautiful if I had not know
the ending already.
>>47344Finished the entire series, so I guess. The Leela and Fry romance seemed pretty forced when I looked into episodes. Fry kinda came onto Leela suddenly in one episode rather than a boiling over and progression that one may expect.
No.47553
>>47552I am glad I wasn't the only one to notice that from the trailers.
That said, I still haven't gotten around to watching 3 yet, and I barely remember 2, so I am not really looking forward to this one. Maybe if I do a catch up watch of 2 and 3 I might be a little more hype but I doubt it.
No.47665
The only cartoon I have left is Teen Titans Go.
I liked Regular Show, Gumball, Justice League Action, Clarence, MAD. Just shit I could shut my brain off to. I don't want to think or feel.
No.47674
>>47630I can't get into this character design. It looks so soulless, like random doodles that were made to pass time. Would it kill the studio to add a little white dot to the pupils? Without it the eyes look flat and dead.
No.47675
>>47674looks like adventure time design, flat colors, noodle-shape body parts, soulless indeed
No.47837
>>47678I just can't.
My minimal standards of animation for a long form show make it so I just can't sit through it.
No.48392
>>47924Maybe he loves traps too much…
No.48783
>>48629While I agree, I really wish she used less clips of other reviewers, or at the very least checked the audio levels and equalized everything so they weren't so loud.
Overall I haven't seen much that is interesting of even good coming out of marvel when it comes to their tv animation in the past few years.
No.48791
http://collider.com/new-animated-series-2019/When it comes to brand new animated series, nothing this year has me all that hype.
Been mostly watching older stuff this year.
No.48839
I am fan of Disney and Netflix series. I like the Fullmetal Alchemist and the storyline and main characters of this cartoon. But recently I moved to China where netflix was banned. So for watching it I use vpn tool from Veepn.com
No.48846
>>48839What kind of cartoons are popular in china?
No.48859
>>48846Knock off animes and ones that celebrate the glorious leader
No.48860
>>48859Oh, that is a little disappointing.
A lot of decent cgi movies have come out from China that I have enjoyed, it is ashamed that it doesn't show in their animated series.
No.48861
I think it's because of the influential appeal of Gravity Falls, despite the fact to say the creator suffered to make that show would be an understatement.
No.48872
>>48839Fullmetal Alchemist is not a cartoon, in fact it was one of the Anime that started the craze for it in the 2000's
No.48943
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hly3tRMq6O1J/BIMBO'S INITIATION (1931)
Just a classic but slightly obscure toon from the 30s.
Enjoy.
No.49022
>>48943The use of squash and stretch to turn static hard objects into soft, rubbery, and most importantly, active/reactive (putting the motion in motion-picture) materials is pretty neat.
No.49082
>>48943I think it is funny that my mom loved Betty Boop cartoons quite a bit and went out of her way to show them to me growing up, but when I think about it they were WAY before her time too. I wonder where she first watched them.
This one is "Bamboo Isle" (1932)
You can tell they animated using live reference footage for the hula dance.
No.49100
>>49099Reminds me a bit of "A story about my uncle" in premise
(I looked it up)
Might actually check it out.
Thanks.
No.49167
>>49130Surprisingly not bad. I expected worse but it was pretty average with the "guest appearance" of Sonic being done fairly well.
While it won't make me a fan of the show as a whole, it does show me it's not total trash like some shows out now.
No.49194
>>49096Halfchan has me on "Mao Mao" (kimcartoon.to) which has a pretty good pace of gags, and understands there's zero tension to be had in violent confrontation with monsters of the week, instead using fights as vehicles for more set-ups.
They also like to poke fun at other CN properties like Steven U.
https://twitter.com/Manga_Kamen/status/1158758117624229888?s=19And CN-lore, like the intern who scribbled over an original drawing of Spike.
Also, giving the deuteragonist a Gears of War chainsaw in the opening credits was pretty ballsy.
But it does rely too heavily on the shonen tropes it mocks, and on the 'facepalm' type of reactions as a response to out of character incompetence or emotional crusades.
There's already so little plot, having it advance based on the characters becoming momentary idiots isn't excusable through 'self-aware' handwaving about it.
No.49222
>>44874I fucking hate Hartman's art style
No.49257
>>49256Didn't they jam in some transgender bullshit or something.
Remember seeing a video complaining about it, but I didn't really care all that much about it despite liking the original. I actually cared more about HQ remaster when they released the latest box set.
No.49275
>>49099>>49194Those look retarded, like everything else.
>>49256It was never meant to be pretty but the old one was way better.
No.49323
>>44214It's because that faggot Pendleton Ward turned the freakin' cartoons gay