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 No.48399[View All]

Been wageslaving for a year and I managed to build my first half decent PC with some of the money I saved up. Any other anons enjoy this?

I used:
Ryzen 5 2600, ASUS ROG x470 mini itx, 16gb of RAM, and an rx590. Hopefully should last me 4 or 5 years since I plan to go NEET for awhile again soon.
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 No.54614

>>54600
Are you running with RTX on? that typically smashes performance for a disputable visual upgrade. Nevertheless a 2080 Ti should be able to run anything current and near future on ultra buttery smoothly. Rockstar has been known to optimize games well in terms of things like portalflow and distant object imposters so I doubt it's on their end.
When do the dips happen? If it's during high particle events like smoke or snow, check for a bios update to get the most out of your CPU

 No.55183

>>48399
lol
I just noticed you have the same mb as me
still don't know if it was worth it paying that much for a board
If I went with a normal form factor , it would've all gotten cheaper propably

 No.55185

>>48517
But how do you get this thing running even? Intel has no chipset drivers for Win7 anymore on recent motherboards.
Won't you get like unstable systems crashing and stuff like that?


I downloaded this new metro game and I doubt my current machine can run this well.
And since my computer is old, I might buy a new one that will last for another 10 years.
But then I would need to use W10 which I don't want to. Or loonix which cannot run games well. So what is the point of building a new pc if I cannot run W7, have only 1 game that interest me and nothing else. I mean, I could play it on medium or low settings if necessary.


>>48399
I always enjoyed tinkering with the pc more than playing/running it afterwards
can modern games even make use of those new hardware even? they look so powerful.
We have 8core cpus now and gpus have 8gb or vram.

 No.55193

>>55185
>Or loonix which cannot run games well
wrong. you can run almost any game with wine compability layer. If you are using steam you don't even have to configure anything. It is built into steam

 No.55196

>>55193
>you can run almost any game with wine compability layer.
In theory. In practice that is a fucking lie.

 No.55197

>>55196
Can confirm. Specially older games, rpgmaker games, emulation, everything out of the big studio titles things get bumpy and broken pretty damn fast. We have big enough drives these days to have Windows installed for gaming, it's not a big deal.

 No.55204

>>55193
world's biggest lie, right next to "you can be anything when you grow up"

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 No.56279

>2 or 3 ryzen builds and a 9th gen intel build just months before new line of GPUs and CPUs was already revealed

why? were you wizards on literal toasters?

 No.56280

>>56279
I would love to get a 5900x but that shit is impossible to find.

 No.56281

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>>56278
apparently you could also with no problem can use an external radiator, like this one.

But I don't understand how would you power the fans on it. With an expensive fan controller with sensors and a shitton of spliters? there's like 9 fans on that thing. I'm afraid of cable clutter

 No.56431

Maybe this PC Building Simulator game can help

 No.57294

Took me like a year to save up and buy all parts and wait for them to arrive, but finally assembled a gaming pc. Did a custom loop with "ZMT" rubber tubing and two PE 360mm radiators from EK

not really sure how well it is built and how long it will last, but so far the graphics card was at 54c and never got past 56c after like an hour of gaming. Also gained a couple of frames per second where it would struggle otherwise on stock cooler. So I guess it was worth it. But honestly not even sure now if it was worth all the hassle or not

It's i9 9900k paired with asus strix 2080 ti

 No.57297

>>57294
So what are you playing in it wizzie?

 No.57385

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I built my dad a pc from scratch using my old parts. he was impressed but there's really not much to it imo. cable goes in that hole, screw those in, bit of thermal paste and ur done.
I want to upgrade my 1070 to something nicer when the prices go down.
it doesnt get consistent 60fps on the stuff like rdr2 at 1440p. i like to play with everything turned up or not at all.
honestly i miss having low standards. kinda sucks being so autistic about framerates and stuff.
btw is there literally any point in having 32gb of ram?

 No.57390

I am planning to buy a new pc. Not looking for anything pricey or fancy, just a bit of power to handle modern games and editors like photoshop.
Do you think something like
Intel E5-2630
RX 570 4GB
16GB
Would be enough to achieve that goal?

 No.57391

>>57390
My current pc is
Athlon x740
Gtx 650 (not ti)
12 gb

 No.57396

>>57390
get a mid range 10th gen intel and you should be set for next 5 years with only upgrading gpu after a year or two, a xeon with low clock speeds would bottleneck a 570

 No.57397

>>57390
Yes that setup should be fine.

 No.57399

is there a website or something that i can learn what parts are compatible and stuff. like if i want to change my gpu, how the hell do i find out what will work

 No.57400

>>57399
GPUs are the most standard. A GTX3060ti will fit in the same PCIE slot a 15 year old AMD card would. New GPUs require more power though so your power supply will need the right 6-pin outputs and watt rating, but if it's missing the 6-pin you can get eSATA or MOLEX to 6-pin converters for a buck. just make sure the card's physical dimensions will fit inside your case

What motherboard do you have

 No.57401

>>57400
so is everything more or less based around the motherboard? i have acer aspire gx-785 motherboard and amd rx 480 graphics card

 No.57402

>>57401
PC building is a scam in general, A year ago from fx8350 that I had for multi years… I updated to i7 7700k 16gb ddr4 3200 Asus rog aurora mb. Overclocked to 5ghz. Still the gtx 1070 and to be honest I wasted $1000….. I see no performance increase. Actually extracting large zip files are slower. Startup times are slower certain multitasking is just overall slower. A gaming PC from 2013 with a modern gpu that cost me like $300 performed about the same as $1000 one.

 No.57403

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>>57401
The mother board is more or less the skeleton of the build. It determines which CPU, PCI, RAM, and storage options you have. Modern power supplies rarely deviate from conventional form factors and cases are all standardized internally and downwards-compatable with motherboarrds smaller than what the case was designed for. Storage form factor is still the same but some cases might not accomodate more than two drives. Some motherboards have m.2 storage support.

>acer aspire gx-785 motherboard and amd rx 480 graphics card

Both use common PCIE so you would be good to drop anything in there, AMD or Nvidia. The 480 takes either 1 or 2 6-pin connecters depending on exactly who made it and the power supply here has 2. If your PC is this prebuilt one in the picture, you should have no problem upgrading except for that black plastic thing in front of the GPU. Might have to remove it . There's ample space otherwise.

>>57402
There are a lot of factors for why your system may have been performing poorer. Extracting zip files has nothing to do with the GPU and is easily bottlenecked by problems ranging from disk fragmentation to the zip software being limited in code to only use so much processing power to do its thing.

 No.57404

>>57403
nope dude I rebuilt my old fx8350 build and it still performs insanely well for a fraction of the price, now that games all support up to 4-8 cores enabled instead of just single/dual core performance like the old days, coupled with the mid-tier tech that's in consoles (basically a budget ryzen and 1060 for current gen)

modern games on low settings all look like pixelated garbage, then there's no almost difference between medium/high settings, then ultra is all just light effects and shadows with a shitload of VRAM usage

modern game devs all know this and use it to their advantange, all popular games coming out can be played on high/ultra settings at 1080p/60fps on 2015s hardware

 No.57407

>>57403
that is indeed the prebuilt i bought. it was $700 on a black friday sale on newegg in 2017. i have no problems but my gpu temps are really high if i try to play modern games. the gpu fan also doesnt work on its own. i must manually adjust my fan speed and check temps periodically as i play games which is weird but im used to it now

i will look for graphics cards that are significantly better, it would be cool to get one used for a fraction of the cost. i remember seeing variations of refurbished gtx 1070 stuff on ebay. are used gpus worthwhile or are they too worn out?

 No.57411

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What's a good measure of CPU performance? Given changes in core processor code, memory caches, and pipelining, I want to take that into account and see how CPU performance has been improving over the past ten years since clock speed has more or less stagnated.

Also, is there a good place I can look up CPUs by such a metric?

Similar question for RAM.

 No.57540

>>57411
Since the board has moved, I thought I'd bump this question.

 No.57542

Is it true all the GPUs have been bought up by bitcoin?

 No.57561

>>57542
i recently did a build for a media server; torrenting, movie/tv watching, and emulation (dolphin emulator and lower level stuff). was planning to buy a low level gpu but the prices were hugely marked up everywhere so i bought a ryzen 5 apu with vega 11 graphics instead.

yeah, asshole bitcoin miner faggots are driving up gpu prices a lot. fuck all of them

 No.57565

I still use GTX 660 from like 8 years ago.

 No.57572

>>57411
Benchmarks probably, since they take into consideration each of those factors. There are different benchmarks that depend more on certain elements, like number of cores or clock speed, so you have to choose the benchmark that fit the use case. For videogames they often just play the game as normal and determine the fps difference(keeping other variables like the gpu static).

 No.57573

>>57542
It is more of a supply side issue with components and base materials but the miners aren't helping matters at all.
So they are a factor but they are overblown as the main cause.

 No.58069

>>57573
I don't think there is a supply issue. Graphic cards are available and plenty in supply on retails shelves. The prices however is another story.

 No.58077

>>58069
>I don't think there is a supply issue.
>The prices however is another story.
You do understand how price works right?

 No.58078

>>58077
tell me how then.
people are willing to pay more for product - prices raise. board partners raise price - retailers raise it even more. but that doesn't really indicate the shortages or the deficit of product.

the prices are inflated. It's not a supply issue as I see it.

 No.58079

>>58078
Price is at a fundamental level is dictated by supply and demand.

The ONLY reason why there are cards on the shelves is because the prices were raised because supplies of the base components are indeed having global shortages.

Do you know what happens when supplies are low and the price isn't allowed to be raised to compensate? Such as what happens govenments institute "anti-price gouging laws".
What happens is total supply outages because supply can't meet demand at that price.
The price being raised regulates demand to those willing and able to pay that higher price thus allowing for the product to be available.

Your welcome for the free econ-101 class.

Also
https://www.howtogeek.com/726236/why-is-it-so-hard-to-buy-a-graphics-card-in-2021/
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3614866/nvidia-expects-crippling-gpu-shortages-to-continue-throughout-2021.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55755820
https://www.techspot.com/article/2238-cpu-gpu-pricing-2021-update/

as evidence of shortages existing.

 No.58080

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msi b550-a pro
ryzen 7 3700x
32gb ddr4 3600mhz
2tb firecuda 510
4x 10tb wd red plus
still using my old rx 480

got this 2 weeks ago for chia plotting/farming, ill be the first to tell you im not smart and it was a bad idea

 No.58081

>>58080
I remember you from the cryto thread.

Well, at least you can use it for other stuff while hoping for another bubble to rise.

 No.58082

>>58080
>ryzen 7 3700x
Watch out, that will bottleneck anything beyond a RTX2060 by about 5-15% depending on the process. Intel may be con artists but GPUs still get more out of Intel's processors.

 No.58088

>>58082
if true, fortunately at this point in time i have zero desire to spend more money on a new graphics card

 No.58287

a while back i ordered 3 'refurbished' 5tb mybook external hdds from western digital's ebay store. it was priced at $15/tb including shipping so i decided it was an alright deal, however it turns out they oversold. since ive been waiting a while for stuff they dont even have inventory of, they told me

>To resolve this issue, we are going to ship you a WD 6TB New My Book Hard Drive, at no extra cost to you, because of our mistake.


really cool. that makes it $10.70/tb now

 No.58289

>>58287
That is cool of them doing that, glad to hear it wiz!

 No.59371

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Not a build, but I ordered an enhanced CPU (Core i7) for my 2010 Thinkpad. The W510 is a business class workstation so it has excellent performance in 2D applications, especially digital art and photo packages. It also has an uncannily good microphone (for conferences I guess). This is great because I want to get back in to drawing and also maybe livestream it for my wizard friends over the internet. It performed great with the pen display I had before, never any slowdowns. I also got a disk drive to 2.5" bracket. I plan to upgrade the RAM to the max 22gb for laughs.

Once that's upgraded I can sell this gaming laptop and rebuild a desktop again for gaming and UHD video editing. I'm aiming for a 2080 and at least an older i7. I need Intel because the best video formats to render in are locked out of or otherwise bottlenecked by AMD. next haul of bux I get I will find a vintage ATX case - one of those beige monoliths. I have a few automatic search term alerts on auction sites for the few CRT monitors that exceeded FHD, usually going to 2560x1440. I will make a super ripped PC that looks like some post-commie slavic Quakestation on the outside but can render 6,000,000 anime boob bounce simulations per second on the inside. It'll be funny, and heavy, but mostly funny.

 No.59373

I want a small form factor PC that still can play games (nothing major, Half-Life 2 era games are enough for me). I was thinking about Intel NUC Canyon, is there anything better?
I don't trust Steam Deck to be decent too much.

 No.59374

>>59373
Steam deck will be hilariously underpowered. Steam’s hardware before was, and now they’re trying to make a tablet, which tend to have shit power in the first place. Do you want it small to save space or for portability? Cause a small desktop will give you more power than a large laptop.

 No.59375

>>59374
Portability, I work on ships and generally have a fair bit of problems with Windows and shit connection so I've moved to a Samsung tablet, but miss my Steam library. I'd connect the small PC and use the tablet as a screen.

 No.59377

>>59375
Cool to see another ship worker here. Corsair has some small form factor PCs but they tend to be expensive. Though they might also just have some slim cases you can buy and then outfit it yourself.

 No.59378

>>59377
I'll look into building one myself at home, then, thanks.


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