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I wasn’t sure where to post this, but here goes. I’m looking for a cheap, sturdy, reliable laptop to run a Linux distro on. I’m selling my 1337 gamer laptop. Any suggestions?


Just install Linux on the laptop you already have? This is more of a random question than anything. I would have posted on the crawl thread but whatever.


Dude says he is selling it, so I am guessing dude needs the money.


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Any used ThinkPad are my go to recommendation for guys looking to get into Linux. Also look at the the channel Luke Smith on YouTube. He has some good Linux videos.


If you don't need something powerful or modern, look toward the elitebook 8470p which I wager is way more serviceable than most thinkpads even.

The back opens up without a single screw, it's just a slide-latch plate. And from there you can access basically everything, the hdd, fan, cpu/heatsink, ram, etc. CPU is socketed, meaning if you got one with an i5 cpu, you can upgrade it with a compatible i7 one if you wanted to. Two free RAM slots. It has one 2.5" drive bay and an optical disk bay thing, which you could take out and replace with an adapter to add a second 2.5" drive if you wanted.

It's a pretty old laptop, like from 2012 or something. Garbage screen though, there is no getting around that. It would be ideal to pair it with a good monitor at home. If you care about the screen, just forget about laptops like these.


Does it have to be a laptop? Get a desktop then.


That image is very old, as it says its from 2014.
I have a t420. It has an awesome keyboard but It is almost 10 years old now. I would suggest people to avoid using these machines. Linux is really problematic with old thinkpads, the battery, fans, heat etc were all better in windows 7. And I suffered a lot and did a lot of thinkering on linux but still couldn't have a silent running pc as it was under windows. Please igore the advice on internet. I recieved constnat 'oh its so easy' advice which drove me crazy, only to later recieve oh anon linux isn't good with those old thinkpads you should have a modern desktop ideally…Wasted 2 weeks for no reason.
I had switched to linux since win7 was going out of support but now I will buy win 10. On windows all you need is a simple thinkfan program (unliek its linux counterpart you dont need to tweak it on terminal) and the machine ran quite smoothly. I hope win10 will not be too much of a burden for a 10 year old machine but we wil see


laptops are really shitty and should only be used when on the go. get a desktop and learn to use your smartphone/tablet while mobile.


Since this thread is started.

I'm looking for a good starter PC desktop tower.


What do you want to do and how much do you have to spend?


>I had switched to linux since win7 was going out of support but now I will buy win 10
I read that windows 10 can usually still be activated using a win7 license, even though the free upgrade period finished years ago. If you are committed to installing win10 you might want to try that rather than buying it. Not exactly sure how it works as I haven't had occasion to use it but here is an article describing it: https://www.howtogeek.com/266072/you-can-still-get-windows-10-for-free-with-a-windows-7-8-or-8.1-key/

I have an x230 with debian on it and it's just ok, not outstanding. Some of the functions still don't work properly with the thinkpad package installed. The screen is pretty bright but otherwise low quality even for when it was made, there's no hardware decoding for modern video codecs, and the battery is lucky to last about 30 minutes. Most of the models on that picture are even older.
The main problem is that mine shuts itself off a short time after being moved. If you look that up it's a somewhat common problem, I read suggestions that it was either some sort of design flaw or the result of being dropped at some point, but you probably wouldn't know if it does this before you buy it. That said, if not for this last issue I would probably still use it.


The main reason I want a new PC is because I'm running out of space. Do you think getting an external HD might be a better option?

I was looking on Quora and they mentioned they are very vulnerable and break easily compared to flashdrives.

But I figure I spend $60 and I have 2TB which is more than most new PC under $1000 have


Replacing, upgrading or adding a new drive internally is also very easy. Even on laptops you can usually just slide it out.


I have used external hardrives without problem for over a decade.
Yeah since they have moving parts you can't chuck them out a window like a flashdrive or other dumb shit, but as long as you treat them like electronics are supposed to be treated in general they hold up just fine.
Don't know what is meant by "very vulnerable", because at least security wise they aren't. But again if you mean something that is breakable then yeah, don't give it a flying elbow drop from the top rope while it is reading and writing I guess.

Then again they have very durable "extreme" SSD external drives that can take just as much of a beating as flashdrives if you really must beat the shit out of your storage devices for some strange reason.


for sure if space is all you need. durability shouldnt be too much of a concern if you're just hanging out at home and aren't moving it around too much. and like the other poster said, ssd's are more common now and can be pretty durable as well.


I broke an external HDD once by having it plugged in to a laptop and accidentally moving around and yanking the cord such that the hdd got thrown on the tile floor. Don't treat it roughly and it should last.
In my opinion they are more reliable than flash drives. I have always had problems with those getting data corruption or just mysteriously ceasing to function.
But if you have a desktop you might as well just get another internal HDD, unless you have some particular reason not to.


What are the best sources for thinkpads? I am also interested in installing a linux distro for privacy with my morning coffee. The only thing I'd use it for is surfing

Amazon seems to be on the expensive side compared to the price guide


Would you recommend a gaming PC for a nongamer casual user? Mostly just videos.

My current PC lags on 60fps vids


No, that's an incredible waste.


I run antix on a disintegrating samsung craptop from 2011 and it's fine for browsing and tweaking, though it stutters when playing 4k 60 fps video. I still love this crumbling pos. It emulates sega saturn games just fine. You can get something really cheap and even as old as a decade and you'll probably be fine as long as you truly don't plan on modern gaming, hardcore video editing, 3d modeling, training neural nets or the like. I can't suggest the old samsung laptops because many have an unforgivable BIOS issue that results in a softbrick.


Why would you spend all that extra money on something you aren't going to use (graphics card etc.) when something half or even less would easily fit your needs?

I mean if you are looking to spend that much money no matter what then get something that actually fits best with what you plan to use it for. Like in your case one with the best screen for movie viewing, or maybe something that is reasonably powerful but very light, or something with a monster battery life.


Computers are pretty powerful now and premiums for "gaming PCs" are around a monster graphics card, lots of cooling ( for graphics card ), tweakable motherboards for overclocking, expensive ram, and cosmetic stuff.

Modern graphics cards can run 4k content for example pretty easy, I think even the newest intel onboard supports full 4k 60FPS HEVC because of hardware level decoding. Gamer PCs might be more likely to have NVME SSD hard-drives over a normal SSD, and they are noticeably faster but I presume most mid-range motherboards support them now. Normal SSDs are perfectly fine though.

You'd still have to do research but you don't need to spend stupid money.


If you don't play games period I don't even know why you would consider that. Get something with a great screen and an SSD.


man those trackpoint things on thinkpads are cool. kind of unrelated but i had a phone a decade ago that had something similar called an optical joystick. you could scroll pages or menu selections, move cursor up/down/left/right, select, hold to bring up context menu, and there were various gestures you could perform mapped to various actions like opening certain program or closing something. all in a single button, man that was fucking awesome. now phones are just all glass with no buttons or anything, stupid shit.


See if your city has a freegeek association, there you can buy inexpensive laptops, desktops, and other electronics. I got a x220 for $40 usd there. It came with Linux Mint and several programs installed. The laptop has been great, I've had for over a year now.


Everytime I want to buy an electronic device, I go to Amazon, and even if it has mostly good reviews, that 5% of 1 star ratings scares me, especially if that 5% is all complaining of the same issue. And bad reviews usually get more upvoted to the top. Because its what buyers are concerned about.

I don't think theres a single device on Amazon, that you wont have at least 5% 1 stars for.

With other products, OK its flawed but you can live with it. But electronics, most of the complaints is that it completely dies and stops working. And this is shit you're spending hundreds of dollars on.

It just freezes me into sticking with what I have, not wanting to risk a dead product.


Amazon reviews are untrustworthy because most of the top sellers bribe buyers with free stuff if they leave a 5-star review. 1-star reviews seem just as useless though, usually it's just someone complaining that the item was damaged in shipping or they broke it somehow.


I gave a 1 star review to a creme that gave me a rash and the seller tried really hard to bribe me to take or change the review.
I didn't because people with the same allergy deserve to know it has a ingredient in it that can cause really bad blistering rashes if they are also allergic.


Absolute newfag looking to install linux on a used ThinkPad 11e. Would like some advice:

The infographic posted ITT warns about locked bios passwords, is this what I'm getting if I buy one used?

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