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What are your favorite Visual Novels?
Pic related.
Pic related.
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Unlike many things, SnU is well deserving of it's popularity. It too is my favorite VN.
Sekien no Inganock is a close second, I really liked that atmosphere of it.
Sekien no Inganock is a close second, I really liked that atmosphere of it.
I didn't play many, but Saya no Uta was absolutely great. Other one I played was Divi-dead, it was pretty cool too but I got only one ending out of like…5? I'm also in progress of playing Swan Song, but I'm going through it at such a slow pace that I'll probably finish sometime in the second half of the next year.
[spoiler]Was I the only one who though that the "worst" ending of Saya was the best one?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Was I the only one who though that the "worst" ending of Saya was the best one?[/spoiler]
>>48
What is the "worst" ending to you?
(I'll try to remain spoiler free as much as I can)
Call for help ending
or
Go alone ending?
What is the "worst" ending to you?
(I'll try to remain spoiler free as much as I can)
Call for help ending
or
Go alone ending?
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I have only played Katawa Shoujo.
Yes, I am a plebeian. Feel free to mock me.
Yes, I am a plebeian. Feel free to mock me.
>>54
Well, feel free to look through the thread and play what others have discussed. Saya no Uta would be a great start, I personally loved it.
Well, feel free to look through the thread and play what others have discussed. Saya no Uta would be a great start, I personally loved it.
>>54
Katawa Shoujo is a pretty okay entry-level VN, nothing to be greatly ashamed about. Saya no Uta is relatively short and absolutely great, just be aware that it has very few choices. Oh, also corpse party - it's not a VN in a traditional sense, but it's an all around great series, and one of the games is in a classic VN format
Katawa Shoujo is a pretty okay entry-level VN, nothing to be greatly ashamed about. Saya no Uta is relatively short and absolutely great, just be aware that it has very few choices. Oh, also corpse party - it's not a VN in a traditional sense, but it's an all around great series, and one of the games is in a classic VN format
>>54
I'm also playing Saya no Uta at the moment and like it very much so far. It differs a lot from Katawa Shoujo though, so you might be in for a surprise and have to readjust a little.
I'm also playing Saya no Uta at the moment and like it very much so far. It differs a lot from Katawa Shoujo though, so you might be in for a surprise and have to readjust a little.
I've only ever played Monster Girl Quest and Unteralterbach, but I really liked both of them. Especially Monster Girl Quest. Unteralterbach got a little preachy at the end.
Also, I played through Kawakaburi, but I'm not sure if you can really even consider that to be a VN. It's really short, and there's not much of a story arc.
Also, I played through Kawakaburi, but I'm not sure if you can really even consider that to be a VN. It's really short, and there's not much of a story arc.
I'm pretty fucking anxious in these, for me, deeply stressful times. Can someone recommend a pleb tier entry level VN with cute girls doing cute things? No death, deep subjects or tragedy whatsoever please
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Narcissu & Side 2nd always devastates me no matter how many times I read it.
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I'll probably play the VN now before the second season.
Probably my favorite anime this year too
Probably my favorite anime this year too
>>335
The MC didn't even get to fug her and died a slow death like a bitch as a wizard.
That thought is awful especially since he still had motivation to do shit and access to a car. Might as well have also checked out in a more exciting manner.
The MC didn't even get to fug her and died a slow death like a bitch as a wizard.
That thought is awful especially since he still had motivation to do shit and access to a car. Might as well have also checked out in a more exciting manner.
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My Favorite VN would have to be Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru which has pretty good OST like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuRRe1moVhY
>>20
I'm the only one who hated saya and was happy to [spoiler]see how she dies a painful death?[spoler/]
I'm the only one who hated saya and was happy to [spoiler]see how she dies a painful death?[spoler/]
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I recently played through this to the Kirara "normal ending" potential spoilers, but nothing specific but jesus christ "normal end" my ass, that shit was depressing as fuck and it hit me like a freight train. I'm having trouble getting through the other routes because it made me feel so shit and I can't focus on the other characters.
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Cross Channel was pretty great. The only VN I truly got emotionally invested in.
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Has anyone played Neko Paradise yet? I'm thinking about buying it.
>>545
They made a VN out of this? Damn I'm out of the loop.
I liked the doujins/art I've seen so far, I should look into this.
They made a VN out of this? Damn I'm out of the loop.
I liked the doujins/art I've seen so far, I should look into this.
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>tfw all VN MCs are normalfags with harems.
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>>545
They have the non-18+ version on Steam, you can buy the 18+ version on their site but it's more expensive.
It's so adorable, I'm going to buy it.
They have the non-18+ version on Steam, you can buy the 18+ version on their site but it's more expensive.
It's so adorable, I'm going to buy it.
>>571
I'm not really getting it to fap to, I might even buy the non-18+ version because it's cheaper.
I'm not really getting it to fap to, I might even buy the non-18+ version because it's cheaper.
>>581
This is too cute. Sayori's art and doujins were awesome enough but this is too much. This VN not only has the wonderful art and characters, but they also have some animation and sfx which (for me) seems amazing.
Reading through it is inspiring me keep up to date with the Jap community (study the language too) and also purchase/donate to this (if I find out how)
Sorry if I'm making a big deal out of it, but I just love this artist and feel like a moron for not keeping up to date with it.
This is too cute. Sayori's art and doujins were awesome enough but this is too much. This VN not only has the wonderful art and characters, but they also have some animation and sfx which (for me) seems amazing.
Reading through it is inspiring me keep up to date with the Jap community (study the language too) and also purchase/donate to this (if I find out how)
Sorry if I'm making a big deal out of it, but I just love this artist and feel like a moron for not keeping up to date with it.
>>585
There's no official patch for that, and there' isn't going to be, from what I've read. The "patch" is to buy both the steam version and the regular (18+) version (or torrent it) and copy all the files from the 18+ version to the steam folder, allowing it to replace files where necessary.
There's no official patch for that, and there' isn't going to be, from what I've read. The "patch" is to buy both the steam version and the regular (18+) version (or torrent it) and copy all the files from the 18+ version to the steam folder, allowing it to replace files where necessary.
>>672
I don't know. I hardly even remember making that post.
I just assumed Sayori is Japanese. As for the VN, I know nothing, but whoever it was did a superb job at it. It's such a pretty VN.
I don't know. I hardly even remember making that post.
I just assumed Sayori is Japanese. As for the VN, I know nothing, but whoever it was did a superb job at it. It's such a pretty VN.
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>>531
This was the only one that made me cry. The OST still gives a nigga feels. I really wanted to talk about it after I finished it but no one wanted to know because it's a 2001 release, so I talked about it with myself which just produced more feels…
Forest is another good one, great folk music and stories but frustrating unless you're patient with a good walkthrough. MC comes across as annoying chad too.
FSN in third place.
Muvluv would probably be in the top3 but I lost my save and never returned.
I really despise KS. Reeked of normalfaggotry when I played it. Probably the community influence.
This was the only one that made me cry. The OST still gives a nigga feels. I really wanted to talk about it after I finished it but no one wanted to know because it's a 2001 release, so I talked about it with myself which just produced more feels…
Forest is another good one, great folk music and stories but frustrating unless you're patient with a good walkthrough. MC comes across as annoying chad too.
FSN in third place.
Muvluv would probably be in the top3 but I lost my save and never returned.
I really despise KS. Reeked of normalfaggotry when I played it. Probably the community influence.
Kanon is my all-time favourite and it will always be.
Played it back in high school on my dreamcast… damn… good times…
Another one that hit me pretty hard in the feels was Wanko to Kurasou.
I'm not the one to play VNs since i much prefer eroges instead, but these two hold a special place in my heart.
Played it back in high school on my dreamcast… damn… good times…
Another one that hit me pretty hard in the feels was Wanko to Kurasou.
I'm not the one to play VNs since i much prefer eroges instead, but these two hold a special place in my heart.
Is there any truth in the statement that Tsukihime is better written than F/SN?
I've only read the former, but people tend to say something along the lines of Fate being more popular because the premise is more interesting, while it's overall written more amateurishly with overall lack of subtetly in how it presents itself.
I've only read the former, but people tend to say something along the lines of Fate being more popular because the premise is more interesting, while it's overall written more amateurishly with overall lack of subtetly in how it presents itself.
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>>20
Saya no uta is a great cautionary tale of succubi. You don't have to look in the next galaxy to find psychopathic monsters that use a wet hole and their appearance to ruin men's lives.
Saya no uta is a great cautionary tale of succubi. You don't have to look in the next galaxy to find psychopathic monsters that use a wet hole and their appearance to ruin men's lives.
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>>20
Monobeno & its fandisc made my heart flutter due to the cute loli's.
It also had alot of lewd scenes
Monobeno & its fandisc made my heart flutter due to the cute loli's.
It also had alot of lewd scenes
>>1167
Saya not ruined fuminori's life.
BUT saya and fuminori ruined the lives of many innocent people that actually cared about fuminori.
It was not their fault that fuminori was so fucked up,he never talked about his craziness with anyone else.
I'm glad I killed that bitch during my gameplay.
Saya not ruined fuminori's life.
BUT saya and fuminori ruined the lives of many innocent people that actually cared about fuminori.
It was not their fault that fuminori was so fucked up,he never talked about his craziness with anyone else.
I'm glad I killed that bitch during my gameplay.
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>>1167
Fuminori's car crash didn't give him meat vision, Saya inflited that on him and got results she was looking for. She did the same thing to the neighbor later on. She's just a selfish cunt.
Fuminori's car crash didn't give him meat vision, Saya inflited that on him and got results she was looking for. She did the same thing to the neighbor later on. She's just a selfish cunt.
>>1180
Did she change him out of selfishness? Maybe. But that doesn't change the fact that she loved him and cared about him more than anyone else ever could. Besides, as soon as she figured out how to do it, she did ask him if he wants to change back. That's why she fucked up the neighbor, she was trying to figure out how to do it.
Did she change him out of selfishness? Maybe. But that doesn't change the fact that she loved him and cared about him more than anyone else ever could. Besides, as soon as she figured out how to do it, she did ask him if he wants to change back. That's why she fucked up the neighbor, she was trying to figure out how to do it.
>>1180
the car crash did give him meat vision. saya didn't actually change him, she only later figured out how to fix it when she experimented on the neighbor.
the car crash did give him meat vision. saya didn't actually change him, she only later figured out how to fix it when she experimented on the neighbor.
>>54
On the topic of KS, is there any VN that goes with the serious illness idea and actually goes with it for more than just a convenient plot point?
On the topic of KS, is there any VN that goes with the serious illness idea and actually goes with it for more than just a convenient plot point?
My favorites are Saya no Uta and Kikokugai.
Mostly because they cut out all of the bullshit that seems to plague the VN medium (by which I mean showing every tedious little detail of the MC's life, including every little thing he did and ate throughout his day)
SnU and Kikokugai just told their stories and kept them interesting the entire way through.
Mostly because they cut out all of the bullshit that seems to plague the VN medium (by which I mean showing every tedious little detail of the MC's life, including every little thing he did and ate throughout his day)
SnU and Kikokugai just told their stories and kept them interesting the entire way through.
>>1578
1 & 2 are on steam if you didn't end up searching for them, they come together as well.
1 & 2 are on steam if you didn't end up searching for them, they come together as well.
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>>335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6U3smxCDsM
I need more visual novels like this. I am so crestfallen I can't enjoy anything but sad/depressing things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6U3smxCDsM
I need more visual novels like this. I am so crestfallen I can't enjoy anything but sad/depressing things.
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I tried to be good for once and buy a game and I ended getting pic-related.
How do you guys feel about comic-relief characters?
How do you guys feel about comic-relief characters?
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Played Little Busters and G-Senjou so far.
Little Busters was fantastic.
G-Senjou was good until those fucking ero scenes.
Now I only play VNs that don't have any ero in them.
Currently playing Clannad.
Little Busters was fantastic.
G-Senjou was good until those fucking ero scenes.
Now I only play VNs that don't have any ero in them.
Currently playing Clannad.
>>4795
I liked Little Busters till I got to Haruka's route. It's so fucking unbelievable and nonsensical.
I liked Little Busters till I got to Haruka's route. It's so fucking unbelievable and nonsensical.
>>4801
The problem I had with it was that it was too long winded.
Still not as bad as Kudryavka or Mio though. Really didn't like those two and just skipped them.
The problem I had with it was that it was too long winded.
Still not as bad as Kudryavka or Mio though. Really didn't like those two and just skipped them.
>>4813
Kud is my second favorite grill but I agree her route was bad. Apparently it was revised in the lewd edition. I still need to unlock Rin's route and refrain. My favorite part is the common route, honestly, but it's only good once.
Kud is my second favorite grill but I agree her route was bad. Apparently it was revised in the lewd edition. I still need to unlock Rin's route and refrain. My favorite part is the common route, honestly, but it's only good once.
>>4855
Komari and Kurugaya were my personal favourites.
Even though Kurugayas route was strange I could really feel with her. She's sort of a semi-wizard.
Have fun with the refrain, it gets really good.
Komari and Kurugaya were my personal favourites.
Even though Kurugayas route was strange I could really feel with her. She's sort of a semi-wizard.
Have fun with the refrain, it gets really good.
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I am currently playing Tsukihime - Far Side of the Moon - Akiha arc.
The climax is way better than the first 2, and SHIKI got ultra cute all of a suddeny. Ciel is still the best though.
The climax is way better than the first 2, and SHIKI got ultra cute all of a suddeny. Ciel is still the best though.
>>20
Just got to the first Sex scene. I think this might be a little TOO intense for me. I've never had to deal with this kind of stuff, a loving "wife", death of family, FRIENDS. What the heck are FRIENDS? It makes me feel weird when the sex scene comes up because it raises a lot of questions and shows their love (or possible "love") with each other. How do you get through this? IT BURNS.
Just got to the first Sex scene. I think this might be a little TOO intense for me. I've never had to deal with this kind of stuff, a loving "wife", death of family, FRIENDS. What the heck are FRIENDS? It makes me feel weird when the sex scene comes up because it raises a lot of questions and shows their love (or possible "love") with each other. How do you get through this? IT BURNS.
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>>4977
Overrated = Things you don't like but everyone else does.
Underrated = Things you like that no one else does.
Pay attention, class, this will be on the test.
Overrated = Things you don't like but everyone else does.
Underrated = Things you like that no one else does.
Pay attention, class, this will be on the test.
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>>4970
Not that anon, but god yes.
The Tsukihime Anime is so terrible that the majority of TMfags try to forget it exists.
Not that anon, but god yes.
The Tsukihime Anime is so terrible that the majority of TMfags try to forget it exists.
>>4940
This stuff got screwed up. FAST. As soon as the option occurs, I'm killing Saya. Both of the MCs are dangers to society, and have only harmed innocent people and exhibited unstable behavior.
This stuff got screwed up. FAST. As soon as the option occurs, I'm killing Saya. Both of the MCs are dangers to society, and have only harmed innocent people and exhibited unstable behavior.
>>4979
Is it your own for your opinion getting outed as such? Just another opinion? That's what it is, you know? You just don't like it and it's fine.
Is it your own for your opinion getting outed as such? Just another opinion? That's what it is, you know? You just don't like it and it's fine.
>>4982
From a 3rd person view the VN is terrible and both Saya and MC are awful people. However try to insert as Fuminori and imagine seeing all that shit as he does.
From a 3rd person view the VN is terrible and both Saya and MC are awful people. However try to insert as Fuminori and imagine seeing all that shit as he does.
>>4978
So you have nothing to say about my criticisms, then? You're not going to try to justify the fact that MuvLuv's plot doesn't even have a conclusion, you're just going to brush off my post with smarmy sarcasm?
Or, let me guess, you're going to come back with the cop-out response "there is no such thing as good and bad, it's all in da eye of da beholder :DDDDDD". People saying that nonsense is the reason why some hipster faggot can take a shit on the sidewalk and call it "art", or empty their bin out on the floor and sell it for a million dollars as a "sculpture".
>>4984
The guy who replied to you wasn't even me, but you are getting awfully upset that I don't think your favourite game is as good as everyone says it is.
>Just another opinion? That's what it is, you know?
No, the fact that MuvLuv's plot doesn't have a conclusion isn't an opinion, it is an observable fact. Takeru just gets teleported back to his original universe, and the fate of the one he had spent most of the story in is never resolved. They destroy the moon base at massive cost to humanity, but they have by no means won the war by doing so. In fact, it seems like, after expending so many resources and lives in the process of taking the moon base, their defeat is now all but certain. But again, we have no way of knowing what happens to that universe, because the plot doesn't have a conclusion.
So you have nothing to say about my criticisms, then? You're not going to try to justify the fact that MuvLuv's plot doesn't even have a conclusion, you're just going to brush off my post with smarmy sarcasm?
Or, let me guess, you're going to come back with the cop-out response "there is no such thing as good and bad, it's all in da eye of da beholder :DDDDDD". People saying that nonsense is the reason why some hipster faggot can take a shit on the sidewalk and call it "art", or empty their bin out on the floor and sell it for a million dollars as a "sculpture".
>>4984
The guy who replied to you wasn't even me, but you are getting awfully upset that I don't think your favourite game is as good as everyone says it is.
>Just another opinion? That's what it is, you know?
No, the fact that MuvLuv's plot doesn't have a conclusion isn't an opinion, it is an observable fact. Takeru just gets teleported back to his original universe, and the fate of the one he had spent most of the story in is never resolved. They destroy the moon base at massive cost to humanity, but they have by no means won the war by doing so. In fact, it seems like, after expending so many resources and lives in the process of taking the moon base, their defeat is now all but certain. But again, we have no way of knowing what happens to that universe, because the plot doesn't have a conclusion.
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>>4994
I will do that! I don't really dislike Saya though. I don't think she knows much about right and wrong. Although, she did turn Yoh into their pet.
>>4993
Can't help it. I admire their goals, but it's not plausible considering their conditions and Fuminori's outlook on life. 100% of this could have been avoided.
The OST though, is amazing. I'm listening to it right now. It really captures the depravity of it all.
I will do that! I don't really dislike Saya though. I don't think she knows much about right and wrong. Although, she did turn Yoh into their pet.
>>4993
Can't help it. I admire their goals, but it's not plausible considering their conditions and Fuminori's outlook on life. 100% of this could have been avoided.
The OST though, is amazing. I'm listening to it right now. It really captures the depravity of it all.
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>>4999
>You're not going to try to justify the fact that MuvLuv's plot doesn't even have a conclusion.
The ending was rushed for sure in the hive because of budget problems but that doesn't mean the series doesn't have a conclusion. It has an incredibly clear conclusion, the story was never about the Alternateverse in the first place. It's the story of Takeru getting transported to an alternate world and about love transcending dimensions.
Just because you don't understand the whole point of the series doesn't make it bad. Muv Luv isn't overrated in the slightest considering the relatively small pool of high-quality VNs that are translated in English.
>You're not going to try to justify the fact that MuvLuv's plot doesn't even have a conclusion.
The ending was rushed for sure in the hive because of budget problems but that doesn't mean the series doesn't have a conclusion. It has an incredibly clear conclusion, the story was never about the Alternateverse in the first place. It's the story of Takeru getting transported to an alternate world and about love transcending dimensions.
Just because you don't understand the whole point of the series doesn't make it bad. Muv Luv isn't overrated in the slightest considering the relatively small pool of high-quality VNs that are translated in English.
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>>4999
Are you done? You're acting a little self-important, don't you think? I must have missed the memo regarding the naming of "random autist on anonymous imageboard" as the one true arbiter of good taste.
Consider the difference between facts and opinions once you're through spazzing out over porn games, please.
Are you done? You're acting a little self-important, don't you think? I must have missed the memo regarding the naming of "random autist on anonymous imageboard" as the one true arbiter of good taste.
Consider the difference between facts and opinions once you're through spazzing out over porn games, please.
I really enjoyed G-Senjou no Maou, particularly the bad endings. Despite being somewhat inconsistent with the true storyline, it's really nice to see how the arrogant calculative bastard of a protagonist doesn't go full 'muh friendship' but does something very characteristic for him manipulating the heroines, and getting them on the 'dark side', especially in Tsubaki's case, as his allies
>>5004
>the story was never about the Alternateverse in the first place. It's the story of Takeru getting transported to an alternate world and about love transcending dimensions.
That's such a cop-out.
>implying a story can't be about more than one thing
It most certainly was about the "Alternateverse", even if it was about other things too.
>Muv Luv isn't overrated in the slightest considering the relatively small pool of high-quality VNs that are translated in English.
Another cop-out. VNs aren't the only medium for telling a story. If only the VN-specific elements were done badly, then your response would be correct, but because it was the actual story, which is not VN unique, which was done badly, we can compare it to stories from other mediums and say "yes, compared to these other stories, this story gets far more praise than it deserves".
>>5005
>Are you done? You're acting a little self-important, don't you think? I must have missed the memo regarding the naming of "random autist on anonymous imageboard" as the one true arbiter of good taste.
>more smarmy sarcasm
*Yawn*. Okay, thanks for proving my point.
>random autist
>using "autist" as an insult
Where do you think you are?
>Consider the difference between facts and opinions
I know the difference, and I demonstrated it. Not my problem if facts make you butthurt.
>once you're through spazzing out over porn games, please.
>it's just a porn game xDDDD you can't criticise it even though lots of effort obviously went into the story!! xDDxDDDDXddDDDDDDDDDDD
The porn in MuvLuv was only there by obligation. It was not the focus of the plot by any means.
>the story was never about the Alternateverse in the first place. It's the story of Takeru getting transported to an alternate world and about love transcending dimensions.
That's such a cop-out.
>implying a story can't be about more than one thing
It most certainly was about the "Alternateverse", even if it was about other things too.
>Muv Luv isn't overrated in the slightest considering the relatively small pool of high-quality VNs that are translated in English.
Another cop-out. VNs aren't the only medium for telling a story. If only the VN-specific elements were done badly, then your response would be correct, but because it was the actual story, which is not VN unique, which was done badly, we can compare it to stories from other mediums and say "yes, compared to these other stories, this story gets far more praise than it deserves".
>>5005
>Are you done? You're acting a little self-important, don't you think? I must have missed the memo regarding the naming of "random autist on anonymous imageboard" as the one true arbiter of good taste.
>more smarmy sarcasm
*Yawn*. Okay, thanks for proving my point.
>random autist
>using "autist" as an insult
Where do you think you are?
>Consider the difference between facts and opinions
I know the difference, and I demonstrated it. Not my problem if facts make you butthurt.
>once you're through spazzing out over porn games, please.
>it's just a porn game xDDDD you can't criticise it even though lots of effort obviously went into the story!! xDDxDDDDXddDDDDDDDDDDD
The porn in MuvLuv was only there by obligation. It was not the focus of the plot by any means.
>>5013
Dude, you seem pretty mad. I never cared about your opinion, I just thought your manner of expressing it was rather obnoxious. I see that's a real character flaw for you now, though. Rather pointless to keep this going, huh?
I'll leave with this. Let's not forgot our place, like you said in other words, lest we become a little too uppity.
Dude, you seem pretty mad. I never cared about your opinion, I just thought your manner of expressing it was rather obnoxious. I see that's a real character flaw for you now, though. Rather pointless to keep this going, huh?
I'll leave with this. Let's not forgot our place, like you said in other words, lest we become a little too uppity.
>>5014
>Dude, you seem pretty mad.
Not at all.
>I never cared about your opinion
If that's true then why do you keep responding to me? You seem to care about my opinion a whole lot from where I'm sitting.
>I just thought your manner of expressing it was rather obnoxious.
The only obnoxious one here has been you. I'm responding to you with arguments, all you're responding to me with are sarcastic comments and insults.
>I see that's a real character flaw for you now, though.
You're going to talk to me about character flaws?
>Rather pointless to keep this going, huh?
If you don't care about my opinion, as you've repeatedly claimed, all you have to do is stop responding to my posts.
>like you said in other words
I said no such thing. I really don't know what you're going on about.
>Dude, you seem pretty mad.
Not at all.
>I never cared about your opinion
If that's true then why do you keep responding to me? You seem to care about my opinion a whole lot from where I'm sitting.
>I just thought your manner of expressing it was rather obnoxious.
The only obnoxious one here has been you. I'm responding to you with arguments, all you're responding to me with are sarcastic comments and insults.
>I see that's a real character flaw for you now, though.
You're going to talk to me about character flaws?
>Rather pointless to keep this going, huh?
If you don't care about my opinion, as you've repeatedly claimed, all you have to do is stop responding to my posts.
>like you said in other words
I said no such thing. I really don't know what you're going on about.
>>5013
>Another cop-out. VNs aren't the only medium for telling a story. If only the VN-specific elements were done badly, then your response would be correct, but because it was the actual story, which is not VN unique, which was done badly, we can compare it to stories from other mediums and say "yes, compared to these other stories, this story gets far more praise than it deserves".
This logic makes all Anime&VNs utter shit compared to real books then. I also liked the part where you called something overrated then complained about hipsters, it takes some pretty powerful doublethinking to do that.
>Another cop-out. VNs aren't the only medium for telling a story. If only the VN-specific elements were done badly, then your response would be correct, but because it was the actual story, which is not VN unique, which was done badly, we can compare it to stories from other mediums and say "yes, compared to these other stories, this story gets far more praise than it deserves".
This logic makes all Anime&VNs utter shit compared to real books then. I also liked the part where you called something overrated then complained about hipsters, it takes some pretty powerful doublethinking to do that.
>>5016
You know what? I deleted my old reply to this and I'm going to apologize. So, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said all those mean things.
I'm going to stick to my guns about one thing, though. Not only did you state your opinion as a fact, you were immediately dismissive of anyone who disagreed (calling something overrated is simply another way of saying people that like it are wrong). You could have just said "I don't like Muv-Luv because x and y reasons" and it would have been fine and valid.
If we disagree on this, so be it. I will not press the matter further. All I ask is that you just think about it next time. I will do the same.
You know what? I deleted my old reply to this and I'm going to apologize. So, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said all those mean things.
I'm going to stick to my guns about one thing, though. Not only did you state your opinion as a fact, you were immediately dismissive of anyone who disagreed (calling something overrated is simply another way of saying people that like it are wrong). You could have just said "I don't like Muv-Luv because x and y reasons" and it would have been fine and valid.
If we disagree on this, so be it. I will not press the matter further. All I ask is that you just think about it next time. I will do the same.
>>545
I just played this, and before that Wanko to Kurasou. I'm not liking how there weren't many choices, doesn't feel like I'm involved.
I just played this, and before that Wanko to Kurasou. I'm not liking how there weren't many choices, doesn't feel like I'm involved.
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I finished Tsukihime, ask me anything.
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>>7823
Kohaku was really cute and sad, but has so much personal strength, she's really admirable.
Hisui was inspirational.
My other favorite character was Ciel. She's the only one I knew about years ago, so it really felt like she's my senpai.
Overall it was pretty cool, if you manage to not get bored that mindfuck aspects are cool even when they're predictable.
Kohaku was really cute and sad, but has so much personal strength, she's really admirable.
Hisui was inspirational.
My other favorite character was Ciel. She's the only one I knew about years ago, so it really felt like she's my senpai.
Overall it was pretty cool, if you manage to not get bored that mindfuck aspects are cool even when they're predictable.
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>>7834
Also best bro
Also best bro
I hate how even when I get really into a VN and get attached and emotional about a character, that I still forget everything that happened after being done for an hour. All those feelings, gone in the wind.
tsuki guy here, Does anyone have a recommendation of what I should read next?
Muv-Luv
Demonbane (might not work on wine tho?)
When They May Cry series
Muv-Luv
Demonbane (might not work on wine tho?)
When They May Cry series
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I'm playing 裸執事 (naked butler) right now, both to enjoy and to help with me learning japanese. Well, actually, I chose this one in particular because I saw some ahegao CG images, but it was a good choice. I progress very slowly, both because I write everything down and because I keep playing less than I wish I would. Yesterday I binged though, it was a very intense moment. Today the lewd was about to start, so I stopped there and left it for tomorrow. The characters are cute, right now I'm focusing on the literal autist.
>>7838
How shit did you feel after Tsukihime's endings? If you, like me, fell into a pit of despair and barely managed to crawl back out, avoid Muv-Luv. It is depressing on a whole other level.
Then again, Tsukihime depressed me because of the bittersweet ending for my waifu more than anything else. I hate bittersweet endings.
Demonbane is pretty cool though. I'd recommend it, though if it doesn't work you're shit out of luck.
How shit did you feel after Tsukihime's endings? If you, like me, fell into a pit of despair and barely managed to crawl back out, avoid Muv-Luv. It is depressing on a whole other level.
Then again, Tsukihime depressed me because of the bittersweet ending for my waifu more than anything else. I hate bittersweet endings.
Demonbane is pretty cool though. I'd recommend it, though if it doesn't work you're shit out of luck.
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My favourite of all is a tough choice between G-Senjou no Maou and Little Busters.
Saya no Uta is very good too.
Saya no Uta is very good too.
>>8068
>tfw Avenger went and fucked all the succubi and stole Shirou's friends
>Type-Moon thought this was okay
t-t-thanks guys
>tfw Avenger went and fucked all the succubi and stole Shirou's friends
>Type-Moon thought this was okay
t-t-thanks guys
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I've been getting into the VN genre.
I started out with Fate/Stay Night and became a huge fan, thus birthed my huge interest in other VN's, but oddly enough It's been a downward spiral.
I hated the sequel to FSN, 'Hollow Atarxia', the slice of life shit doesn't bother me that much but the twist at the end was a real slap in the face for me.
Then I tried Tsukihime and did Arcueids route, I liked it alot but the other routes are pretty boring to me, thus I've never truly finished it.
Then I tried Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai and I seriously seriously hated it with a passion.
I'm going for Rewrite next, but I'm having doubts about it already.
This is pretty much suffering, is there at least one more VN out there that I'm at least guaranteed to like?
I started out with Fate/Stay Night and became a huge fan, thus birthed my huge interest in other VN's, but oddly enough It's been a downward spiral.
I hated the sequel to FSN, 'Hollow Atarxia', the slice of life shit doesn't bother me that much but the twist at the end was a real slap in the face for me.
Then I tried Tsukihime and did Arcueids route, I liked it alot but the other routes are pretty boring to me, thus I've never truly finished it.
Then I tried Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai and I seriously seriously hated it with a passion.
I'm going for Rewrite next, but I'm having doubts about it already.
This is pretty much suffering, is there at least one more VN out there that I'm at least guaranteed to like?
>>9102
>Then I tried Tsukihime and did Arcueids route, I liked it alot but the other routes are pretty boring to me
Don't go getting any ideas my man.
>Then I tried Tsukihime and did Arcueids route, I liked it alot but the other routes are pretty boring to me
Don't go getting any ideas my man.
>>9102
>I've been getting into the VN genre.
It's not really a "genre". That's like saying "I've been getting into the video game genre" or "I've been getting into the movie genre".
>I started out with Fate/Stay Night and became a huge fan
Shit taste.
>I've been getting into the VN genre.
It's not really a "genre". That's like saying "I've been getting into the video game genre" or "I've been getting into the movie genre".
>I started out with Fate/Stay Night and became a huge fan
Shit taste.
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>>9102
>Then I tried Tsukihime and did Arcueids route, I liked it alot but the other routes are pretty boring to me, thus I've never truly finished it.
This is some shit taste right here.
Far Side > Near-side
>Then I tried Tsukihime and did Arcueids route, I liked it alot but the other routes are pretty boring to me, thus I've never truly finished it.
This is some shit taste right here.
Far Side > Near-side
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>>9128
I consider them to be in the realm of video games, even if they aren't.
I consider them to be in the realm of video games, even if they aren't.
>>9279
What you consider them to be doesn't change what they actually are.
>I consider myself to be a brain surgeon, even if I'm not.
What you consider them to be doesn't change what they actually are.
>I consider myself to be a brain surgeon, even if I'm not.
>>9281
The point of my post was that I don't think they're games either, but they're.
I don't know how to explain it, I know alot of people would want VN's to not be considered video games, but they… Are.
The point of my post was that I don't think they're games either, but they're.
I don't know how to explain it, I know alot of people would want VN's to not be considered video games, but they… Are.
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Nobody actually faps to VN's right?
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>>9416
Right, we've got AA-like games for this.
Right, we've got AA-like games for this.
>>9416
I do, though it really depends on certain factors. Sometimes I'll do it and sometimes I'll just want the sex scenes to be over with as fast as possible.
I do, though it really depends on certain factors. Sometimes I'll do it and sometimes I'll just want the sex scenes to be over with as fast as possible.
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>>9417
You shouldn't fap to that either though. It's purpose was to simulate a pure social environment for you and your waifu… unless you did something to soil that environment.
You shouldn't fap to that either though. It's purpose was to simulate a pure social environment for you and your waifu… unless you did something to soil that environment.
>>9630
>AA2
>pure
Did you ever even fucking play that game? You can't go 10 minutes without someone fucking or groping in public.
>AA2
>pure
Did you ever even fucking play that game? You can't go 10 minutes without someone fucking or groping in public.
>>9640
>implying characters follow their traits completely and not just do whatever the fuck they feel like
>implying characters follow their traits completely and not just do whatever the fuck they feel like
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>>9646
The sun itself is the best waifu you could get, man.
The sun itself is the best waifu you could get, man.
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I'm playing the Heavens Feel route
>>12259
Also Gilgamesh gets turned into a succubus in that route and he becomes the new Heroine.
Also Gilgamesh gets turned into a succubus in that route and he becomes the new Heroine.
>>12262
I wish I could when, but when I look at /all/ all I see is a swamp of unfunny memes and people trying their hardest to be clever ironic humorists. The only reason this place is better is that I don't have to deal with normalshits and their behavior.
I wish I could when, but when I look at /all/ all I see is a swamp of unfunny memes and people trying their hardest to be clever ironic humorists. The only reason this place is better is that I don't have to deal with normalshits and their behavior.
>>12263
I don't get into games enough to really care about spoilers, ironic since it's a lengthly VN (I doubt I'll play more than an hour or two withn the next few weeks).
I never used /a/ though, wizchan was my first and only active imageboard I used.
I don't get into games enough to really care about spoilers, ironic since it's a lengthly VN (I doubt I'll play more than an hour or two withn the next few weeks).
I never used /a/ though, wizchan was my first and only active imageboard I used.
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I almost never finish any VNs I start reading because I am a lazy and impatient fuck, so in most cases I quiet the VN midway and end up reading the plot summary on the net.
I only finished two routes of it before spoilering the rest for myself but I think I enjoyed Never 7: The end of infinity the most. Usually I only like one or two characters from VNs but I liked the entire main cast in Never 7. This game just felt comfy and I liked the atmosphere of it. Interesting story, likeable succubi, awesome atmosphere. Plus I am a sucker for old VN art. I think it is very underrated compared to Ever 17 and Remember 11.
Ryukishi's stuff is close to my heart too, since I actually finished Higurashi and Umineko (well, only read Umineko up to Ep7 but you get the point). Until a few years ago I was into R07's works but since I read some of Rose Guns Days I avoid him. Still want to try out Higanbana someday though.
Honorable mentions: Bible Black, Chaos; Head , Sharin no Kuni, FSN. I thought I would finish Sharin no Kuni but then I arrived at Natsumi's chapter…couldn't last very long. One of the most annoying characters ever.
I only finished two routes of it before spoilering the rest for myself but I think I enjoyed Never 7: The end of infinity the most. Usually I only like one or two characters from VNs but I liked the entire main cast in Never 7. This game just felt comfy and I liked the atmosphere of it. Interesting story, likeable succubi, awesome atmosphere. Plus I am a sucker for old VN art. I think it is very underrated compared to Ever 17 and Remember 11.
Ryukishi's stuff is close to my heart too, since I actually finished Higurashi and Umineko (well, only read Umineko up to Ep7 but you get the point). Until a few years ago I was into R07's works but since I read some of Rose Guns Days I avoid him. Still want to try out Higanbana someday though.
Honorable mentions: Bible Black, Chaos; Head , Sharin no Kuni, FSN. I thought I would finish Sharin no Kuni but then I arrived at Natsumi's chapter…couldn't last very long. One of the most annoying characters ever.
>>12262
>Just lighten up brah :^)
Wizchad 2016. Do you think we should "just lighten up" to the point of allowing normalfaggotry too?
>Just lighten up brah :^)
Wizchad 2016. Do you think we should "just lighten up" to the point of allowing normalfaggotry too?
I only bother with VNs on my tablet and can only play free stuff from Google store. Games are either full and simple or teaser demos of large games.
Anyone know any resources to get English VNs on android for me? Free only.
Anyone know any resources to get English VNs on android for me? Free only.
What's the best way to keep track of your progress in a VN (especially the most complex ones)?
>>12265
The only VNs I finished were Monster succubus Quest 1+2, and that's only because the extremely linear gameplay managed to keep my attention.
The only VNs I finished were Monster succubus Quest 1+2, and that's only because the extremely linear gameplay managed to keep my attention.
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any wizzie main character visual novels with tons of choices?
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>>13005
Monmusu Quest games are Eroges.
The same applies to games like Starless (Eroge->Nukige) and Bible Black(Eroge->Nukige).
Here:
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VN - General term. Visual novel with none or little/nonexplicit sexual content. VNs main focus are romance and storytelling. VNs and LNs walk hand in hand but LNs usually focus on 'Lighter' themes.
Galge - subgenre of VN. Games which were designed to have many pretty characters (Moe or Ikemen (handsome men)) to sell. Can be used for both men and women centered games but it's far more used to describe male centered games.
Otomege - subgenre of VN. Games centered mainly towards fujoshis. BL games are here.
Charage (Kyarage) - Another subgenre of VN. Used when a character from another adaptation (like manga or anime) from crossover or the same series make an appearance. Since it's a major selling point, it's sometimes included in the genre tags.
Eroge - General term. Visual novel with lots of sexual content and innuendos. Romance is still present.
Galge - subgenre of Eroge. Games which were designed to have many pretty characters (Moe or Ikemen (handsome men)) to sell. Can be used for both men and women centered games.
Otomege - subgenre of Eroge. Games centered mainly towards fujoshis. Erotic BL games are here.
Nukige - subgenre of Eroge. Games which focus mainly on the sexual aspect. Hardcore pornography and filled with eroscenes, more erotic CGs than non-erotic CGs. Romance here is to stick penis in every hole. Rape and NTR themes are common.
Monmusu Quest games are Eroges.
The same applies to games like Starless (Eroge->Nukige) and Bible Black(Eroge->Nukige).
Here:
————————————————
VN - General term. Visual novel with none or little/nonexplicit sexual content. VNs main focus are romance and storytelling. VNs and LNs walk hand in hand but LNs usually focus on 'Lighter' themes.
Galge - subgenre of VN. Games which were designed to have many pretty characters (Moe or Ikemen (handsome men)) to sell. Can be used for both men and women centered games but it's far more used to describe male centered games.
Otomege - subgenre of VN. Games centered mainly towards fujoshis. BL games are here.
Charage (Kyarage) - Another subgenre of VN. Used when a character from another adaptation (like manga or anime) from crossover or the same series make an appearance. Since it's a major selling point, it's sometimes included in the genre tags.
Eroge - General term. Visual novel with lots of sexual content and innuendos. Romance is still present.
Galge - subgenre of Eroge. Games which were designed to have many pretty characters (Moe or Ikemen (handsome men)) to sell. Can be used for both men and women centered games.
Otomege - subgenre of Eroge. Games centered mainly towards fujoshis. Erotic BL games are here.
Nukige - subgenre of Eroge. Games which focus mainly on the sexual aspect. Hardcore pornography and filled with eroscenes, more erotic CGs than non-erotic CGs. Romance here is to stick penis in every hole. Rape and NTR themes are common.
>>12265
I have only read through tsukihime once, but I have tried rereading other routes many times and failing.
I have only read through tsukihime once, but I have tried rereading other routes many times and failing.
>>13012
You sounded rather cute, almost tsundere, understand the language, before you speak.
Pretty embarrassing isn't it? I've been there too, so this makes us two.
Finding a needle in a haystack, the ones who care.
You sounded rather cute, almost tsundere, understand the language, before you speak.
Pretty embarrassing isn't it? I've been there too, so this makes us two.
Finding a needle in a haystack, the ones who care.
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Probably Dangan Ronpa. Only because it's one of the few Visual Novels I didn't drop out of boredom. Although to be fair, it's probably the most game-like visual novel I can think of and there's a lot of debate as to whether or not it really is one to begin with.
>>13015
I though people told you to fuck off with your retarded poem-posting multiple times already.
I though people told you to fuck off with your retarded poem-posting multiple times already.
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>>13049
Yes. Now stop trying to derail threads, it's getting old real fast.
Yes. Now stop trying to derail threads, it's getting old real fast.
>>4978
He gave a legit reason.
I also have a strong dislike towards stories lacking proper conclusion. I absolutely loved Higurashi, but only after the second season was over.
He gave a legit reason.
I also have a strong dislike towards stories lacking proper conclusion. I absolutely loved Higurashi, but only after the second season was over.
I loved Steins;Gate. I enjoyed Saya no Uta, Grisaia no Kaijutsu and Chaos;Head a bit. Not many others caught my attention.
Yu-no is disgusting because of all that sexualization.
Yu-no is disgusting because of all that sexualization.
>>13126
Fuck you all you Anons love Stein's gate they should've called these threads:
ITT: Faggots who don't watch good anime!
Fuck you all you Anons love Stein's gate they should've called these threads:
ITT: Faggots who don't watch good anime!
>>13238
Well, i am not russian, but i love russian culture, that's why i study russian language. To improve my language skills, i often visit russian imageboards. On one of them i've found this VN.
Well, i am not russian, but i love russian culture, that's why i study russian language. To improve my language skills, i often visit russian imageboards. On one of them i've found this VN.
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I like yuri.
Lonely Yuri is my favorite
Lonely Yuri is my favorite
Anyone know of any lesser-known VNs that are good?
I feel like I've read everything that's been translated to english.
I feel like I've read everything that's been translated to english.
>>13238
This sounds interesting. I don't know much about Russians besides bears and vodka but I'm curious about human cultures and will give it a try.
This sounds interesting. I don't know much about Russians besides bears and vodka but I'm curious about human cultures and will give it a try.
>>13238
They do, it's score in Steam is pretty high and I've seen people praising it on imageboards with flags enabled.
They do, it's score in Steam is pretty high and I've seen people praising it on imageboards with flags enabled.
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>>13248
Glad to see I'm not the only one here.
Glad to see I'm not the only one here.
I played Saya no Uta and Kara no Shoujo and they both hit me right in the feels , especially the white ending of Saya.
Anybody can recommend me VN's similar to those? With godlike Ost's and feels.
Anybody can recommend me VN's similar to those? With godlike Ost's and feels.
>>14611
I think I downloaded my version here
http://erogedownload.com/downloads/saya-no-uta/
Maybe somebody here has better resources though, when I look for VNs the only partner I have is search engines.
I think I downloaded my version here
http://erogedownload.com/downloads/saya-no-uta/
Maybe somebody here has better resources though, when I look for VNs the only partner I have is search engines.
>>14613
thanks I think I used that for f/sn ages ago too, not played fsn for more than 2-3 hours though and i got it over a year ago
saya is shorter which suits me better
thanks I think I used that for f/sn ages ago too, not played fsn for more than 2-3 hours though and i got it over a year ago
saya is shorter which suits me better
>>14633
I done it
NOTE that half these shitty mounting softwrare come with bloatware even the highly rated and seemingly safe deamon tools
http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/
is the one i used (i googled around and a reddit post linked me to it so it should be safe and nothing unwanted came alongside)
The reason you have to mount it (and change the system locale to jp) is since it treats it like a disc then and installs the game to your pc
very lewd from the offset though
I done it
NOTE that half these shitty mounting softwrare come with bloatware even the highly rated and seemingly safe deamon tools
http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/
is the one i used (i googled around and a reddit post linked me to it so it should be safe and nothing unwanted came alongside)
The reason you have to mount it (and change the system locale to jp) is since it treats it like a disc then and installs the game to your pc
very lewd from the offset though
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Lucid 9 is pretty good.
>>16582
Those succubi look like anorexic midgets. It's like something that's not official.
I looked it up and that's exactly it. Here's the page for anyone interested and lazy.
http://lucid9.weebly.com/about.html
It was pretty obvious to tell from the two succubi. I don't know why, but it looks funny. The expression on the middle one's face just gave it away I guess. The one on the left was pretty obvious too. Heck, they're all kind of obvious. You could snap the succubi in half if you tried.
Those succubi look like anorexic midgets. It's like something that's not official.
I looked it up and that's exactly it. Here's the page for anyone interested and lazy.
http://lucid9.weebly.com/about.html
It was pretty obvious to tell from the two succubi. I don't know why, but it looks funny. The expression on the middle one's face just gave it away I guess. The one on the left was pretty obvious too. Heck, they're all kind of obvious. You could snap the succubi in half if you tried.
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Does anyone know of some VNs where the MC is a NEET/hikikomori? I've already played Chaos;Head, but I can't seem to find any others…
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I've only recently been getting into VNs, right now I've been playing through Sengoku Rance on a recommendation and I'm actually enjoying the gameplay/strategy elements much more then the hscenes themselves. My question is are there any games out there similar to Rance, like with a focus on gameplay/rpg/stats building, etc?
>>16959
Kamidori Alchemy Meister is the only one that comes to my mind right now. I'm sure there are many more though, just look around here https://vndb.org/g21
Kamidori Alchemy Meister is the only one that comes to my mind right now. I'm sure there are many more though, just look around here https://vndb.org/g21
>>16959
Utawarerumono. Haven't gotten around to finishing it but I liked the gameplay and the story is quite comfy.
Utawarerumono. Haven't gotten around to finishing it but I liked the gameplay and the story is quite comfy.
>>16972
Just because it's on VNDB does not mean it is one. There are a lot of games on VNDB that aren't really "VNs" but get thrown in there anyway. ぶるにゃんマン was on there for a time, but it is an STG. Sengoku Rance is more of a strategy game, not a "VN." The other Rance games and other titles by Alice Soft are mainly RPGs. And then there are some real dating simulation games that get tossed under the "VN" label. Having ADV-style story presentation does not make a VN.
Just because it's on VNDB does not mean it is one. There are a lot of games on VNDB that aren't really "VNs" but get thrown in there anyway. ぶるにゃんマン was on there for a time, but it is an STG. Sengoku Rance is more of a strategy game, not a "VN." The other Rance games and other titles by Alice Soft are mainly RPGs. And then there are some real dating simulation games that get tossed under the "VN" label. Having ADV-style story presentation does not make a VN.
>>16977
And what sort of credentials do you have to be able to consider yourself such an ultimate authority on the subject?
And what sort of credentials do you have to be able to consider yourself such an ultimate authority on the subject?
>>17077
>Can't attack the point made
>Can't admit was wrong
>Can't just not post
>So attacks the person's credibility
We see right through you.
>Can't attack the point made
>Can't admit was wrong
>Can't just not post
>So attacks the person's credibility
We see right through you.
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I haven't watched a VN yet. I wanted to try Steins;Gate. There's the Steam version that looks like it is waiting to be bought but I have read somewhere that some VNs have cut content, scenes, conversations, etc. Should I buy the Steam version? Or does it have cut content? What Steins;Gate do I buy if I want it in good eigo but also as full as possible?
>>20632
Steam VNs are fucking cancer. Just get a translation patch for the original. They're often bundled with the software anyway.
Steam VNs are fucking cancer. Just get a translation patch for the original. They're often bundled with the software anyway.
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Any VNs about shy overly attached qts falling deeply in love with you?
I only played katawa shoujo and kana little sister, any recommendations are welcome (more imouto incest also welcome)
I only played katawa shoujo and kana little sister, any recommendations are welcome (more imouto incest also welcome)
>>20634
Fate Stay Night is sort of like that with the Sakura Route (though you need to download a complete save file as it's the 3d route)
Fate Stay Night is sort of like that with the Sakura Route (though you need to download a complete save file as it's the 3d route)
>>20635
3 separate routes but iirc you have to complete the other two before being able to choose the Sakura route
Though it's probably lighter on that stuff than the two you played, she pretty much doesn't talk to anyone apart from you
3 separate routes but iirc you have to complete the other two before being able to choose the Sakura route
Though it's probably lighter on that stuff than the two you played, she pretty much doesn't talk to anyone apart from you
>>20632
If you have a vita I reccomend S;G on that.
Vita is pretty much my favorite thing to play VN's on since you can lounge about, and S;G doen't have any erotic bits to be cut anyway.
Honestly most of the time ero in VN's is not good, not that it never is. I usually play full versions but you don't usually miss out on anything. That said steam is still bad because muh drm.
If you have a vita I reccomend S;G on that.
Vita is pretty much my favorite thing to play VN's on since you can lounge about, and S;G doen't have any erotic bits to be cut anyway.
Honestly most of the time ero in VN's is not good, not that it never is. I usually play full versions but you don't usually miss out on anything. That said steam is still bad because muh drm.
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>>20
Didn't really want to start a new thread, so just thought I'd ask here. Where the hell do you guys get all the translated VNs from? It was a pain to download and even find the few I have. For example I want to play the Happiness! vn, because Jun is a cutie, but for God's love, I can't seem to be able to find it anywhere. Any tips or links?
Didn't really want to start a new thread, so just thought I'd ask here. Where the hell do you guys get all the translated VNs from? It was a pain to download and even find the few I have. For example I want to play the Happiness! vn, because Jun is a cutie, but for God's love, I can't seem to be able to find it anywhere. Any tips or links?
>>20913
Looking up the name of the VN on any torrent site works 99% of the time, I'm not sure why you're having problems.
Looking up the name of the VN on any torrent site works 99% of the time, I'm not sure why you're having problems.
>>20913
Have you checked the adult section on nyaa?
I imagine more posters than not don't read translations
Have you checked the adult section on nyaa?
I imagine more posters than not don't read translations
>>20914
Because most of the torrent sites I frequented were shut down? And on the others, it's almost impossible to find anything other than the top of the iceberg normie entertainment. I don't intend to pay for some patrician torrent site with my precious scarce bux either.
Because most of the torrent sites I frequented were shut down? And on the others, it's almost impossible to find anything other than the top of the iceberg normie entertainment. I don't intend to pay for some patrician torrent site with my precious scarce bux either.
>>20915
Looked there, didn't find it. Half of everything is written in chink, so it's pretty difficult to orient oneself there.
>>20917
What a waste, should've shared it first.
Looked there, didn't find it. Half of everything is written in chink, so it's pretty difficult to orient oneself there.
>>20917
What a waste, should've shared it first.
>>20919
>Half of everything is written in chink
97% is the usual figure.
Enjoy fan translations written by illiterate teenagers.
>Half of everything is written in chink
97% is the usual figure.
Enjoy fan translations written by illiterate teenagers.
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>>13238
I'm another anon, and I'm Russian. I haven't played eng version of this game, so I have no idea how translation turned out to be. But I think this game is mostly for Russians, cuz it gives some memories from the past, and also Russian atmosphere is not for everyone, but I really enjoyed it. If you have time then you should definitely give it a try. Story is good but nothing really unique or spesial, it has fast pace in the start and the end, but for the most part 80% their's just ¨chilling¨ at the summer camp. Only real issue with this game is variety and size of the game, just remember that it's a game that some rus anons made.
Sorry for bad English (sorry for bad english)
I'm another anon, and I'm Russian. I haven't played eng version of this game, so I have no idea how translation turned out to be. But I think this game is mostly for Russians, cuz it gives some memories from the past, and also Russian atmosphere is not for everyone, but I really enjoyed it. If you have time then you should definitely give it a try. Story is good but nothing really unique or spesial, it has fast pace in the start and the end, but for the most part 80% their's just ¨chilling¨ at the summer camp. Only real issue with this game is variety and size of the game, just remember that it's a game that some rus anons made.
Sorry for bad English (sorry for bad english)
>>545
>Has anyone played Neko Paradise yet? I'm thinking about buying it.
Its bad. The art is cute but the actual VN is so "manufactured" its abysmal
>Has anyone played Neko Paradise yet? I'm thinking about buying it.
Its bad. The art is cute but the actual VN is so "manufactured" its abysmal
>>991
Was Kanon given an American release or something?
I played it recently and enjoyed it.
Haven't played Saya no uta yet, but I'm going to give it a try since everyone in this thread seems to love it. Hopefully it's not too difficult to understand because I'll be reading it in Japanese.
Was Kanon given an American release or something?
I played it recently and enjoyed it.
Haven't played Saya no uta yet, but I'm going to give it a try since everyone in this thread seems to love it. Hopefully it's not too difficult to understand because I'll be reading it in Japanese.
>>22666
Its not an easy vn because of the medical lingo somewhat advanced grammar and lines of gibberish text
Its not an easy vn because of the medical lingo somewhat advanced grammar and lines of gibberish text
>>22666
It's a lot harder than your average VN. If you have the patience and it's not your very first VN though, I recommend it. I read it as my fourth VN and my Japanese improved greatly from the trial by fire.
It's a lot harder than your average VN. If you have the patience and it's not your very first VN though, I recommend it. I read it as my fourth VN and my Japanese improved greatly from the trial by fire.
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I'm halfway through Chuusotsu now and since the translation Kikestarter is going to be funded, I need to tell you guys that Chuusotsu is anti-neet propaganda so that's something to keep in mind in case any of you have/were thinking of backing it. The writing and characters are good and it's fairly interesting but as a wizard NEET I'm not enjoying it. And I'm not sure who it's meant to appeal to because it's not something normies would like at all either.
Which sucks because I greatly enjoyed Hiruou's previous work, JQV, and Suicide Fence still looks interesting.
Which sucks because I greatly enjoyed Hiruou's previous work, JQV, and Suicide Fence still looks interesting.
>>23241
I don't consider this much of a spoiler, but hidden in case you want to be surprised by the themes of the game. I thought it was heading in that direction, but it turns out to be more anti wage slavery. It's not pro-NEET, but it argues that NEETism is an unfortunate condition caused by wage slavery. The "villains" of the game are NEET haters and and the heroes are NEETs.
I don't consider this much of a spoiler, but hidden in case you want to be surprised by the themes of the game. I thought it was heading in that direction, but it turns out to be more anti wage slavery. It's not pro-NEET, but it argues that NEETism is an unfortunate condition caused by wage slavery. The "villains" of the game are NEET haters and and the heroes are NEETs.
How do you guys read all these things? do you all know jap? Because only a minority of them are translated.
For example I would like to play >>23241 but I'm sure it's nor translated.
For example I would like to play >>23241 but I'm sure it's nor translated.
>>23248
wat?? learn japp just to play silly porno games? are you kiddin me?? why wuld i waist my time doing dat just use machine translation like ebberybubby else it is barely intelligible but it works for me! sure beats having to memorize all dose stoopid squiggles
or you can sit on your ass for 2-7, 10+ or never years waiting on people to translate it badly for you
wat?? learn japp just to play silly porno games? are you kiddin me?? why wuld i waist my time doing dat just use machine translation like ebberybubby else it is barely intelligible but it works for me! sure beats having to memorize all dose stoopid squiggles
or you can sit on your ass for 2-7, 10+ or never years waiting on people to translate it badly for you
>>23248
I only read Visual Novels since they're a good learning tool for Japanese. I would never touch a translation, as I've heard they're all poorly translated + rewritten.
It really isn't that hard to learn enough Japanese to play these games though.
I only read Visual Novels since they're a good learning tool for Japanese. I would never touch a translation, as I've heard they're all poorly translated + rewritten.
It really isn't that hard to learn enough Japanese to play these games though.
>>23250
There's no need to be like that asshole I learned spanish to watch TV dramas FFS it's not that weird
There's no need to be like that asshole I learned spanish to watch TV dramas FFS it's not that weird
>>23251
>>23253
I was taking the role of the person who says things like that. Those are things I see people say a lot on this topic. I don't agree with that at all. I am quite bothered by it. The way to go is of course to actually learn the language and not be dependent on text hookers or machine translation.
>>23253
I was taking the role of the person who says things like that. Those are things I see people say a lot on this topic. I don't agree with that at all. I am quite bothered by it. The way to go is of course to actually learn the language and not be dependent on text hookers or machine translation.
I know a lot of you will probably shit on me for this but I really hope VNs eventually become more popular. That means more of them will be translated to English at a faster rate.
>>24980
Played Lonely Yuri, as suggested ITT.
I probably like yuri more than I'd be willing to admit, even anonymously. I don't know of many yVNs, though.
Played Lonely Yuri, as suggested ITT.
I probably like yuri more than I'd be willing to admit, even anonymously. I don't know of many yVNs, though.
My favorite one by far is Steins;Gate no contest. S;G 0 was pretty decent, Fate is alright. I'm currently playing Chaos;Child which was just released locally in NA region. It's actually really comfy so far, despite being kinda dark at times. I have high hopes for it.
to this day all ive completed was katawa shoujo when it first came out
i would like to play more different ones but never bothered looking
i always bumpsave this thread to keep it from dying so i can properly start playing vns one day but when that day comes ill never know
i would like to play more different ones but never bothered looking
i always bumpsave this thread to keep it from dying so i can properly start playing vns one day but when that day comes ill never know
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i've gone back and re-read several routes on several different occasions over the past decade since I first encountered it, so I'm well aware that it's almost entirely nostalgia value that guides my opinion, but Tsukihime is still my favorite. There's beauty in its shittiness and the resulting ambiance like there is in seeing a band play in a crackhouse basement or listening to old recordings of classical music from before room acoustics and recording technology was really figured out.
>>24993
yes i think that was it. i couldnt even finish it once i got to that place and saw how bad everything was turning, i just shut it off
yes i think that was it. i couldnt even finish it once i got to that place and saw how bad everything was turning, i just shut it off
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I really want to play this,this meta ending seems awesome as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXcwYgoGR0E
Too bad I don't know runes….well I guess it's time to try to learn….again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXcwYgoGR0E
Too bad I don't know runes….well I guess it's time to try to learn….again.
Is there at least one VN which does not consists of typical anime waifu-like characters, to appeal certain audiences. Like this image >>349 I know that it supposed to be cute, but it disgusts me.
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>>25061
Otoko Dogeza Jigoku
Otoko Dogeza Jigoku
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>>10600
I truly think that Taiichi is one of the most upstanding characters I've seen written. His self sacrifice was deeply moving. His character really shows that CC has a much deeper literary thought put into it than most writing.
I truly think that Taiichi is one of the most upstanding characters I've seen written. His self sacrifice was deeply moving. His character really shows that CC has a much deeper literary thought put into it than most writing.
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I'm playing Chaos Child on Vita (pirated,I don't pay for shit)
I'm just getting started,but it's already a lot better than Chaos Head,it's quite a shame that Chaos Child is so full of references to Chaos Head to the point that it may as well be mistaken for a remake,but unfortunately is not,is a sequel,now that I'm talking about it Chaos Head was literally the most boring and dissapointing thing I've ever read,the first 20 minutes are fantastic,then it goes downhill for hours with the stupid,unlikeable protagonist that does absolutely nothing interesting for entire chapters,then it gets interesting for a little and it ends,it was the only VN I had to use willpower to finish,because I was getting sleepy everytime I tried to read such boring shit.
Anyway Chaos Child is interesting and keeps up the pace quite well,the protagonist is like a carbon copy of the protagonist of Chaos Head (to the point that both of them are addressed as "Taku") but without the NEET-ness and general mediocrity of the Chaos Head protag.
Anyway,good VN for now,I hope it doesn't end like C:H 2.0…
I'm just getting started,but it's already a lot better than Chaos Head,it's quite a shame that Chaos Child is so full of references to Chaos Head to the point that it may as well be mistaken for a remake,but unfortunately is not,is a sequel,now that I'm talking about it Chaos Head was literally the most boring and dissapointing thing I've ever read,the first 20 minutes are fantastic,then it goes downhill for hours with the stupid,unlikeable protagonist that does absolutely nothing interesting for entire chapters,then it gets interesting for a little and it ends,it was the only VN I had to use willpower to finish,because I was getting sleepy everytime I tried to read such boring shit.
Anyway Chaos Child is interesting and keeps up the pace quite well,the protagonist is like a carbon copy of the protagonist of Chaos Head (to the point that both of them are addressed as "Taku") but without the NEET-ness and general mediocrity of the Chaos Head protag.
Anyway,good VN for now,I hope it doesn't end like C:H 2.0…
anything new that was fun? i haven't touched visual novels for quite a while so things from the past 3 years would be new for me
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>>29763
Not sure if you want translated or untranslated but off the top of my head
translated:
>キラ☆キラ
>Period
untranslated:
>果てしなく青い、この空の下で…
>水月 -すいげつ-
>黄昏のシンセミア
>君が望む永遠
>Pure Mail
>ALMA ～ずっとそばに…～
All spring/summer setting IIRC and many taking place during summer vacation.
Not sure if you want translated or untranslated but off the top of my head
translated:
>キラ☆キラ
>Period
untranslated:
>果てしなく青い、この空の下で…
>水月 -すいげつ-
>黄昏のシンセミア
>君が望む永遠
>Pure Mail
>ALMA ～ずっとそばに…～
All spring/summer setting IIRC and many taking place during summer vacation.
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>>29763
Higurashi
Great horror/murder mystery with a bunch of SoL in the countryside during the summer.
Also lots of higurashi.
Higurashi
Great horror/murder mystery with a bunch of SoL in the countryside during the summer.
Also lots of higurashi.
>>24
Wow. I remember making this post a long time ago.
I also remember when I first played SnU.
I couldn't stop jerking off
Wow. I remember making this post a long time ago.
I also remember when I first played SnU.
I couldn't stop jerking off
If you're into more hardcore fetishes, Euphoria is really good.
It has a story the anime-version couldn't hold up to.
It has a story the anime-version couldn't hold up to.
Just finished Muv Luv. Don't listen to the people who say you HAVE to read unlimited/extra before Alternative.
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>>30985
Garbage advice. Half the reason Alternative was impactful was that you you had poured dozens of hours into Extra/Unlimited and really knew the characters and had become attached to them.
Garbage advice. Half the reason Alternative was impactful was that you you had poured dozens of hours into Extra/Unlimited and really knew the characters and had become attached to them.
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>>507
Nah, I sorta felt the same as well. She was very endearing & enchanting at first, but became far too cruel & heartless for a delicate wizard like me to stay infatuated with her. For a start, the things she & Fuminori did to Yoh were simply unforgivable. No love can be fostered, sustained or even survive in the face of inflicting such massive suffering towards another. In the end though, despite relishing Saya's dying screams, her death remained somewhat bittersweet. Why did you need to be so cruel Saya? Why did it have to come to this? Perhaps the monstrousness of your origins combined with you absorbing the monstrousness of the human heart is enough to explain what I wish weren't true. You may not have realized it, but your death was a mercy, most of all to yourself. Goodbye Saya. You were never meant for this world. (Kneels down and places a single dandelion on Saya's desecrated little monster corpse)
What is love? Saya don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.
When all's said & done, I'd much rather take Yoh or Ryoko over Saya. Might also try some of the other visual novels in this thread, since Saya no Uta was essentially my first.
Nah, I sorta felt the same as well. She was very endearing & enchanting at first, but became far too cruel & heartless for a delicate wizard like me to stay infatuated with her. For a start, the things she & Fuminori did to Yoh were simply unforgivable. No love can be fostered, sustained or even survive in the face of inflicting such massive suffering towards another. In the end though, despite relishing Saya's dying screams, her death remained somewhat bittersweet. Why did you need to be so cruel Saya? Why did it have to come to this? Perhaps the monstrousness of your origins combined with you absorbing the monstrousness of the human heart is enough to explain what I wish weren't true. You may not have realized it, but your death was a mercy, most of all to yourself. Goodbye Saya. You were never meant for this world. (Kneels down and places a single dandelion on Saya's desecrated little monster corpse)
What is love? Saya don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.
When all's said & done, I'd much rather take Yoh or Ryoko over Saya. Might also try some of the other visual novels in this thread, since Saya no Uta was essentially my first.
>>31431
I'm the type of guy to prefer Saya. It would be reveling to see the oligarch's factories crumble as a result of an eldritch converting everyone into meat monsters. Saya also has that otherworldly mystique to her that I would gladly offer myself to.
I'm the type of guy to prefer Saya. It would be reveling to see the oligarch's factories crumble as a result of an eldritch converting everyone into meat monsters. Saya also has that otherworldly mystique to her that I would gladly offer myself to.
>>31432
Well, like I said, perhaps I'm just a pansy, but Saya's growing propensity for sadism & abject cruelty as it manifests throughout the novel, really shattered the image I'd had of her. That being, a kind, gentle (well mostly gentle, given her diet), somewhat mischievous & misunderstood creature who simply wanted to be loved and whom would never hurt anyone, at least not intentionally.
As a result, I could somewhat forgive what she did to Suzumi, given how naively ignorant & misguided her actions were to a certain extent and that even she herself suffered the repercussions from them, perhaps learning her lesson in the process. What she did to Yoh later on however? What she did with such premeditated, merciless cruelty? Why Saya? You were supposed to be better than this. Now you're just as monstrous & barbaric as the dirtiest of normalfags. Just as cruel & heartless as the most demonic of females. You were supposed to be different. I wanted you to be different. I mean, honestly, the way she just casually suggests that Fuminori should test out his axe on poor, little Yoh quivering in the corner. The fact she's already wracked with such constant pain, due to Saya's botched mutation of her, and that she would then go on to utter such a horrible, horrible thing. That hurts me Saya. That hurts me so much. By comparison, her "blooming", as it were, and dooming the world to an eldritch induced apocalypse, seemed tame by comparison.
Anyway, like I said before, I'm a very gentle hearted wizard. Saya, despite her unassuming form, just felt so very coarse & jagged to me past a certain point. Like the pedals of a bashful, little flower, Saya's true face & heart, stomped the little flower of a Wizard I am flat. Again, all the horrible things she both says aloud & does and all the malevolence & sadism she delights in was simply too much for my delicate constitution. I suppose one could say Ryoko was also quite cruel in her own way, but even she seems mild by comparison. Why does everybody have to be so mean? I just wanted Saya to be my gentle wiz wife, not a cruel monster, taken after normalfags.
Well, like I said, perhaps I'm just a pansy, but Saya's growing propensity for sadism & abject cruelty as it manifests throughout the novel, really shattered the image I'd had of her. That being, a kind, gentle (well mostly gentle, given her diet), somewhat mischievous & misunderstood creature who simply wanted to be loved and whom would never hurt anyone, at least not intentionally.
As a result, I could somewhat forgive what she did to Suzumi, given how naively ignorant & misguided her actions were to a certain extent and that even she herself suffered the repercussions from them, perhaps learning her lesson in the process. What she did to Yoh later on however? What she did with such premeditated, merciless cruelty? Why Saya? You were supposed to be better than this. Now you're just as monstrous & barbaric as the dirtiest of normalfags. Just as cruel & heartless as the most demonic of females. You were supposed to be different. I wanted you to be different. I mean, honestly, the way she just casually suggests that Fuminori should test out his axe on poor, little Yoh quivering in the corner. The fact she's already wracked with such constant pain, due to Saya's botched mutation of her, and that she would then go on to utter such a horrible, horrible thing. That hurts me Saya. That hurts me so much. By comparison, her "blooming", as it were, and dooming the world to an eldritch induced apocalypse, seemed tame by comparison.
Anyway, like I said before, I'm a very gentle hearted wizard. Saya, despite her unassuming form, just felt so very coarse & jagged to me past a certain point. Like the pedals of a bashful, little flower, Saya's true face & heart, stomped the little flower of a Wizard I am flat. Again, all the horrible things she both says aloud & does and all the malevolence & sadism she delights in was simply too much for my delicate constitution. I suppose one could say Ryoko was also quite cruel in her own way, but even she seems mild by comparison. Why does everybody have to be so mean? I just wanted Saya to be my gentle wiz wife, not a cruel monster, taken after normalfags.
I don't remember her showing empathy to anyone except main character which was perfect to me. getting a second succubus having Saya was shit glad she got killed
also that shit felt forced like the studio told the creator lol we can't just have loli we need to appeal to norm audience add that cowtit too or else! that and the part we're Saya was raped sucked I forgive for killing a cat since she was an alien and didn't know much plus how many cats have humanity tortured in comparison is nothing
Now that the colder period of the year are here, what are your favorite vns to play during those fall/winter months?
>>31820
White Album
White Album 2 Intro + Closing Chapter
Konata yori Kanata Made
Amagami
Chocolat
Parfait
Usually pick 2 or 3 of these to go through around the period from Thanksgiving to Christmas. I have fond memories of marathoning them during the holiday season when I was younger and had started learning Japanese fairly recently.
White Album
White Album 2 Intro + Closing Chapter
Konata yori Kanata Made
Amagami
Chocolat
Parfait
Usually pick 2 or 3 of these to go through around the period from Thanksgiving to Christmas. I have fond memories of marathoning them during the holiday season when I was younger and had started learning Japanese fairly recently.
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>>31820
Ciconia part 1 has a very, ahem, kino scene on christmas
Ciconia part 1 has a very, ahem, kino scene on christmas
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>>335
came here to post this, i'm not a big fan of VN's because they're mostly otaku centered escapism media wich is not what i seek but this one was different
>>1909
it's fun you posted this track because it's my favourite of the game, i'll never forget the very moment this track plays for the first time, i prefer the version without the piano tho.
Narcissu is one of those stories that still stays with you years after, if some of you guys know some VN's with such a strong ambience/atmosphere as narcissu i'll take it. bonus point if it's depressing/sad.
Anyway, i recommend to all of you to read this VN, it really has something.
came here to post this, i'm not a big fan of VN's because they're mostly otaku centered escapism media wich is not what i seek but this one was different
>>1909
it's fun you posted this track because it's my favourite of the game, i'll never forget the very moment this track plays for the first time, i prefer the version without the piano tho.
Narcissu is one of those stories that still stays with you years after, if some of you guys know some VN's with such a strong ambience/atmosphere as narcissu i'll take it. bonus point if it's depressing/sad.
Anyway, i recommend to all of you to read this VN, it really has something.
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>>32054
I would suggest reading Swan Song.
Im not sure if it is what you've asked for, but i think that this vn is surely worth one's time.
I would suggest reading Swan Song.
Im not sure if it is what you've asked for, but i think that this vn is surely worth one's time.
https://vndb.org/v24000 this sounds interesting eventhough artstyle looks meh and is mostly text
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>>32061
>Gnostic mythology
>Christian mythology
>World War II
>Philosophy
>Yakuza
Yeah this one's going in my backlog.
How the hell did you even find this, just tag searching?
>Gnostic mythology
>Christian mythology
>World War II
>Philosophy
>Yakuza
Yeah this one's going in my backlog.
How the hell did you even find this, just tag searching?
>>32061
The artstyle is awful though,but I will never be able to play it anyway because there's no eng patch.
The artstyle is awful though,but I will never be able to play it anyway because there's no eng patch.
>>32064
Searching for random stuff while listening to music is one of my favourite things to do to relax
Searching for random stuff while listening to music is one of my favourite things to do to relax
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>>32064
>How the hell did you even find this, just tag searching?
People were talking about it on 4chad after it got uploaded to bbs.ikfol
>How the hell did you even find this, just tag searching?
People were talking about it on 4chad after it got uploaded to bbs.ikfol
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>>32061
made by a tranny lol
made by a tranny lol
>>32100
No
https://mobile.twitter.com/sumika_miyuki
>女装は趣味です
>男性です。
"My hobby is cross dressing. I'm a man."
Can't say I give a shit about the creator's interests as long as the game is interesting though. He can be out fucking babies for all I care.
No
https://mobile.twitter.com/sumika_miyuki
>女装は趣味です
>男性です。
"My hobby is cross dressing. I'm a man."
Can't say I give a shit about the creator's interests as long as the game is interesting though. He can be out fucking babies for all I care.
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>>32102
Everyone I've seen on imageboards uses it to designate people identifying as succubi and not just traps/crossdressers but if you want to pull out online English dictionary definitions and weren't using it that way then whatever.
Everyone I've seen on imageboards uses it to designate people identifying as succubi and not just traps/crossdressers but if you want to pull out online English dictionary definitions and weren't using it that way then whatever.
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Here's an unfinished kamige that we'll likely never see the end of. Apparently the guy lost all motivation for the project and gave up completely. Maybe one day he'll read all the positive comments on egs and work up the motivation to finish it.
https://vndb.org/v1912
https://vndb.org/v1912
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>>32061
I've been reading it a bit. So far it's mostly been focused on exposition and a few short disconnected chapters of random people (guy who lives a normal life until old age and then contemplates that there was something wrong with that being all there is to life and then gets involved with some yakuza extorting a young succubus while in the hospital, and a rich man who runs for office and preaches about how humans are imperfect and need to strive to reach perfection to attain greater happiness, but then gets crushed by the overwhelming number of problems he needs to deal with while in office.
Now it's going through a book explaining gnostic beliefs. I don't know much about gnosticism apart from the shitposts people make here so it's kind of interesting. I just hope it's all building up to something.
Also really like the music.
I've been reading it a bit. So far it's mostly been focused on exposition and a few short disconnected chapters of random people (guy who lives a normal life until old age and then contemplates that there was something wrong with that being all there is to life and then gets involved with some yakuza extorting a young succubus while in the hospital, and a rich man who runs for office and preaches about how humans are imperfect and need to strive to reach perfection to attain greater happiness, but then gets crushed by the overwhelming number of problems he needs to deal with while in office.
Now it's going through a book explaining gnostic beliefs. I don't know much about gnosticism apart from the shitposts people make here so it's kind of interesting. I just hope it's all building up to something.
Also really like the music.
longpost ahead
I've generally avoided denpage because of a preconception that they all just deal with senseless insanity and random supernatural phenomena, which isn't really my cup of tea. Vid related showed up on my feed though, and skimming through it actually peaked my interest in the games it describes, which are considered the big 3 denpage in Japan. I decided to try out さよならを教えて first because the artstyle attracted me most out of the 3, and the protagonist is a teacher rather than a student.
I didn't expect much outside of crazy shit but this really betrayed those expectations, in a good way. There are a lot of crazy events and the narrative can feel even disconnected at times, but the writer incorporated all of this incredibly skillfully. It starts out with all the craziness happening in the protagonist's dreams, with something that looks like a Lovecraftian mass of tentacles raping one of his students while he watches. The protagonist has some odd delusions about her being an angel, but he recognizes them as such and so for the beginning stretch of the game it looks less like insanity and more like his repressed desire breaking through in his dreams.
As the game progresses day by day events become more intense and difficult to believe, with multiple rapes and BDSM-style torture being inflicted on his students. The brilliance, though, is that all this doesn't seem to come out of nowhere. It feels out of context and disconnected from reality, of course, but there are plenty of impressions and inner monologues from the protagonist that foreshadow his later actions, and above all it's difficult to distinguish whether many of these sex scenes are mere fantasies on his part or actual events (he himself is unable to draw a line between reality and fantasy). As you're reading it feels less like a world gone insane and more like a detailed psychological study into a deranged, yet still surprisingly self-aware and seemingly functional individual in the form of a fictional narrative.
(Rest of this spoils the end of the game)
The "twist" at the end is that the protagonist is actually a patient in a mental hospital. After growing up under a strict family near the bottom of the hierarchy, experiencing sexual attraction towards his older sister and being scolded after being caught peeping on her changing and stealing her clothes, and finally failing to become a teacher and follow in his sister's footsteps, he fell into insanity and extreme solipsism, which caused him to construct a new world where his environment is a school. The heroines of the game were inanimate objects and animals which he projected parts of his personality onto and personified as succubi. The twist wasn't that surprising, as there are lots of suggestions throughout the story, particularly in the events of the last few days before the end, but I don't think it lessened the impact of hearing the conversation between his sister and the doctor in charge of him and seeing the camera pan out to reveal an enclosed concrete building in place of the school grounds that were shown throughout the game.
After understanding this and viewing the previous events in the context of the protagonist's solipsistic construction I was both amazed at how well everything was put together to lead up to and conform to this, but also terrified by the idea of being stuck in what's essentially an eternal personal hell. During the ending events of the game the protagonist's constructed world starts to break down, leading to various spatial and temporal contradictions, and the protagonist gives hints of understanding that he's not a teacher at all. All the heroines, with a single exception, commit suicide one by one. Since they're all projections of the protagonist's personality -fragments of his character- I think this is indicative of the protagonist's self-destructive tendency (this is underwritten by several conversations near the end of the game where the protagonist talks about suicidal events with the bookworm heroine).
The tragedy is that, despite having a wish to die and longing after non-existence, stating it several times during the game and even "living it out" by committing double suicide with one heroine and getting shot by another in his fantasies, he's still unable to actually kill himself in the end. This really becomes clear in the route of the main succubus (睦月/Mutsuki, the one he calls an angel and sees in his dreams being raped). As it turns out near the end of the game she was the only one who was an actual person (though with the exception of one conversation, the protagonist's interactions with her are also hallucinations) - a high school succubus who was instituted for severe depression. For the protagonist the meaning of her being an "angel" seems to be a combination of some sort of platonic love mixed with a gross, repressed sexual desire, and also of a longing after death, which he projects onto her by constructing his own narrative where her "ascension" back to heaven is actually her hanging herself. As is revealed in the final conversation between his sister and his doctor, the protagonist and Mutsuki only had one actual conversation, right before she was discharged. For her it seems like a normal conversation, because he's talking about her "leaving", but his definition of "leaving" is her killing herself, which he sees in the end in one of his delusions where she hangs herself from a tree in a forest outside the school. The protagonist doesn't follow, however, and even in this ending it only ends with his constructed world breaking down, rather than him committing to dying. He can only take vicarious pleasure, accompanied by torturous frustration at his own impotence, in the hallucinated death he constructs for Mutsuki.
It seems for a time near the end that the protagonist will finally come back to reality and acknowledge his situation, but at the very end it turns out he's simply constructed another reality for himself - one as an intern at the mental hospital. A line of the lyrics for the ending song really poignantly describe the protagonist's situation perfectly - "終わりのない、永遠の夕暮れ時" - endless, eternal twilight, a reference to the fact that all events of the game take place during sunset. The protagonist is too weak to commit to death, despite his self-hatred, but he's also too impotent, and too terrified and anxious of losing meaning in his life by facing the reality where he wasn't able to make something of himself as a teacher. He's stuck in a loop of constantly constructing a narrative for himself as an escape, destroying it in his self-hatred through the rape and abuse of the succubi he materializes out of fragments of his personality, and reconstructing it when faced with the terror of either dying or coming back to the reality where he's basically a loser. The idea of being stuck in such an eternal loop, constantly building and tearing apart your own world, trapped in your own head in an eternal routine of self-flagellation, was absolutely terrifying for me.
There's a lot more I could write of regarding the protagonist and his different aspects (his messiah complex, his sadistic tendencies and viewing of beauty as the result of transience and the fragility of life, etc) but I'll stop there.
I also read and finished ジサツのための１０１の方法 today, so I might post about it another time. I'm still digesting it but it didn't impress me anywhere near as much as さや教 did. The beginning was promising and it did some neat things with blurring the lines between reality and fantasy via the dream argument, but it failed in developing characters sufficiently, which made a lot of the later action feel random and senseless (not in a good way or as a plot device, it just felt like certain characters were almost completely absent of motivation).
I'll probably also get around to reading 終ノ空, the third "big" denpage, eventually. Apparently it was a prototype for 素晴らしき日々.
I've generally avoided denpage because of a preconception that they all just deal with senseless insanity and random supernatural phenomena, which isn't really my cup of tea. Vid related showed up on my feed though, and skimming through it actually peaked my interest in the games it describes, which are considered the big 3 denpage in Japan. I decided to try out さよならを教えて first because the artstyle attracted me most out of the 3, and the protagonist is a teacher rather than a student.
I didn't expect much outside of crazy shit but this really betrayed those expectations, in a good way. There are a lot of crazy events and the narrative can feel even disconnected at times, but the writer incorporated all of this incredibly skillfully. It starts out with all the craziness happening in the protagonist's dreams, with something that looks like a Lovecraftian mass of tentacles raping one of his students while he watches. The protagonist has some odd delusions about her being an angel, but he recognizes them as such and so for the beginning stretch of the game it looks less like insanity and more like his repressed desire breaking through in his dreams.
As the game progresses day by day events become more intense and difficult to believe, with multiple rapes and BDSM-style torture being inflicted on his students. The brilliance, though, is that all this doesn't seem to come out of nowhere. It feels out of context and disconnected from reality, of course, but there are plenty of impressions and inner monologues from the protagonist that foreshadow his later actions, and above all it's difficult to distinguish whether many of these sex scenes are mere fantasies on his part or actual events (he himself is unable to draw a line between reality and fantasy). As you're reading it feels less like a world gone insane and more like a detailed psychological study into a deranged, yet still surprisingly self-aware and seemingly functional individual in the form of a fictional narrative.
(Rest of this spoils the end of the game)
The "twist" at the end is that the protagonist is actually a patient in a mental hospital. After growing up under a strict family near the bottom of the hierarchy, experiencing sexual attraction towards his older sister and being scolded after being caught peeping on her changing and stealing her clothes, and finally failing to become a teacher and follow in his sister's footsteps, he fell into insanity and extreme solipsism, which caused him to construct a new world where his environment is a school. The heroines of the game were inanimate objects and animals which he projected parts of his personality onto and personified as succubi. The twist wasn't that surprising, as there are lots of suggestions throughout the story, particularly in the events of the last few days before the end, but I don't think it lessened the impact of hearing the conversation between his sister and the doctor in charge of him and seeing the camera pan out to reveal an enclosed concrete building in place of the school grounds that were shown throughout the game.
After understanding this and viewing the previous events in the context of the protagonist's solipsistic construction I was both amazed at how well everything was put together to lead up to and conform to this, but also terrified by the idea of being stuck in what's essentially an eternal personal hell. During the ending events of the game the protagonist's constructed world starts to break down, leading to various spatial and temporal contradictions, and the protagonist gives hints of understanding that he's not a teacher at all. All the heroines, with a single exception, commit suicide one by one. Since they're all projections of the protagonist's personality -fragments of his character- I think this is indicative of the protagonist's self-destructive tendency (this is underwritten by several conversations near the end of the game where the protagonist talks about suicidal events with the bookworm heroine).
The tragedy is that, despite having a wish to die and longing after non-existence, stating it several times during the game and even "living it out" by committing double suicide with one heroine and getting shot by another in his fantasies, he's still unable to actually kill himself in the end. This really becomes clear in the route of the main succubus (睦月/Mutsuki, the one he calls an angel and sees in his dreams being raped). As it turns out near the end of the game she was the only one who was an actual person (though with the exception of one conversation, the protagonist's interactions with her are also hallucinations) - a high school succubus who was instituted for severe depression. For the protagonist the meaning of her being an "angel" seems to be a combination of some sort of platonic love mixed with a gross, repressed sexual desire, and also of a longing after death, which he projects onto her by constructing his own narrative where her "ascension" back to heaven is actually her hanging herself. As is revealed in the final conversation between his sister and his doctor, the protagonist and Mutsuki only had one actual conversation, right before she was discharged. For her it seems like a normal conversation, because he's talking about her "leaving", but his definition of "leaving" is her killing herself, which he sees in the end in one of his delusions where she hangs herself from a tree in a forest outside the school. The protagonist doesn't follow, however, and even in this ending it only ends with his constructed world breaking down, rather than him committing to dying. He can only take vicarious pleasure, accompanied by torturous frustration at his own impotence, in the hallucinated death he constructs for Mutsuki.
It seems for a time near the end that the protagonist will finally come back to reality and acknowledge his situation, but at the very end it turns out he's simply constructed another reality for himself - one as an intern at the mental hospital. A line of the lyrics for the ending song really poignantly describe the protagonist's situation perfectly - "終わりのない、永遠の夕暮れ時" - endless, eternal twilight, a reference to the fact that all events of the game take place during sunset. The protagonist is too weak to commit to death, despite his self-hatred, but he's also too impotent, and too terrified and anxious of losing meaning in his life by facing the reality where he wasn't able to make something of himself as a teacher. He's stuck in a loop of constantly constructing a narrative for himself as an escape, destroying it in his self-hatred through the rape and abuse of the succubi he materializes out of fragments of his personality, and reconstructing it when faced with the terror of either dying or coming back to the reality where he's basically a loser. The idea of being stuck in such an eternal loop, constantly building and tearing apart your own world, trapped in your own head in an eternal routine of self-flagellation, was absolutely terrifying for me.
There's a lot more I could write of regarding the protagonist and his different aspects (his messiah complex, his sadistic tendencies and viewing of beauty as the result of transience and the fragility of life, etc) but I'll stop there.
I also read and finished ジサツのための１０１の方法 today, so I might post about it another time. I'm still digesting it but it didn't impress me anywhere near as much as さや教 did. The beginning was promising and it did some neat things with blurring the lines between reality and fantasy via the dream argument, but it failed in developing characters sufficiently, which made a lot of the later action feel random and senseless (not in a good way or as a plot device, it just felt like certain characters were almost completely absent of motivation).
I'll probably also get around to reading 終ノ空, the third "big" denpage, eventually. Apparently it was a prototype for 素晴らしき日々.
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Read Saihate no Ima if you know japanese and want to see the most over ambitious but well written sci-fi mind screw in otaku media. The story goes in so many different unconventional places and while it feels like it's constantly running on 30 layers at once, every tiny aspect of the story has a satisfying explanation and fits concisely into the main plot of the game. It doesn't abuse mental illness or red herrings, everything links back to the core sci-fi/human concepts.
The description on vndb doesn't describe the game at all.
https://vndb.org/v1278
The description on vndb doesn't describe the game at all.
https://vndb.org/v1278
>>32296
Fuck,I wish I could understand japanese,this sounds good as fuck.
How did you managed to learn?
Fuck,I wish I could understand japanese,this sounds good as fuck.
How did you managed to learn?
just played Raging Loop, it was fun for awhile. The problem with VNs is that that the bad routes are always more fun while the "true" route is extremely boring so I rarely finish them.
>>32337
DJT's guide on 4chad's jp board is a good start but I used a bunch of old websites and books that are outdated now then switched to mining from native material.
DJT's guide on 4chad's jp board is a good start but I used a bunch of old websites and books that are outdated now then switched to mining from native material.
>>32296
>さよならを教えて
Thank you for the recommendation and (non-spoiler) synopsis.
Do you have a live magnet you're willing to share and/or seed?
The Rutracker one sadly seems to be dead.
I usually stay clear of games with focus on denpa characters simply because they're just such a pain to read if your Japanese is not on point. (Mine isn't)
But your post got me in the mood to try one again.
>さよならを教えて
Thank you for the recommendation and (non-spoiler) synopsis.
Do you have a live magnet you're willing to share and/or seed?
The Rutracker one sadly seems to be dead.
I usually stay clear of games with focus on denpa characters simply because they're just such a pain to read if your Japanese is not on point. (Mine isn't)
But your post got me in the mood to try one again.
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>>32296
I'll write more briefly on the other game - forgot to come back to it due to wageslavery.
ジサツのための１０１の方法
This one is about a high school boy who's obsessed with suicide and disillusioned with life, essentially viewing everything through a kind of gray-vision. The interesting part is that he's extremely deep into dreaming and fantasies (the game opens with him fantasizing about fucking his step-sister) and as the game progresses the line between delusion and reality is blurred.
The start was really strong and pulled me right in, in large part due to the unique concept, but it gets much weaker after the first hour when it introduces the more supernatural/denpa elements - suicide waves making people kill themselves - and moves on to the characters taking shelter in a classroom and shifts focus to the power dynamics in that situation. It continues to do some neat things with blurring the lines between reality and dreams/delusions but the storyline taking place in the school remains weak, especially because the actions and speech of the characters besides the protagonist are often inconsistent, or the sense of presence of certain characters is really almost nonexistent until the game nears its end. The last stretch is some odd shit which I read as the protagonist reconstructing parts of his reality in order to put himself into a more ideal eroge-type situation - tsundere stepsister, pure love with a childhood friend etc. There's probably more I could draw from it but I'm not that interested in reading much deeper right now. Some guy on EGS said it was a homage to "Thus Spoke Zarathustra".
Apparently the story was very heavily taken from a 20th century Japanese sci-fi novel called ドグラ・マグラ by 夢野 久作 (Yumeno Kyūsaku).
Novel wiki (Japanese): https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9
Author wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumeno_Ky%C5%ABsaku
I'm interested in how closely it followed the novel so I'll be reading that soon.
Aozora link if anyone is interested: https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000096/files/2093_28841.html
Unfortunately there's no English translation but IIRC there is a French one.
>>32431
Sorry, I probably can't help you because I got it from a private tracker. I saw a link with a bundle of games on sukebe nyaa.si including Higurashi and some other game with it and 1 seeder, but I'm not sure if that's accurate. Other than that maybe try searching the Japanese name + download. As a last resort you could try Perfect Dark (Japanese P2P).
I'll write more briefly on the other game - forgot to come back to it due to wageslavery.
ジサツのための１０１の方法
This one is about a high school boy who's obsessed with suicide and disillusioned with life, essentially viewing everything through a kind of gray-vision. The interesting part is that he's extremely deep into dreaming and fantasies (the game opens with him fantasizing about fucking his step-sister) and as the game progresses the line between delusion and reality is blurred.
The start was really strong and pulled me right in, in large part due to the unique concept, but it gets much weaker after the first hour when it introduces the more supernatural/denpa elements - suicide waves making people kill themselves - and moves on to the characters taking shelter in a classroom and shifts focus to the power dynamics in that situation. It continues to do some neat things with blurring the lines between reality and dreams/delusions but the storyline taking place in the school remains weak, especially because the actions and speech of the characters besides the protagonist are often inconsistent, or the sense of presence of certain characters is really almost nonexistent until the game nears its end. The last stretch is some odd shit which I read as the protagonist reconstructing parts of his reality in order to put himself into a more ideal eroge-type situation - tsundere stepsister, pure love with a childhood friend etc. There's probably more I could draw from it but I'm not that interested in reading much deeper right now. Some guy on EGS said it was a homage to "Thus Spoke Zarathustra".
Apparently the story was very heavily taken from a 20th century Japanese sci-fi novel called ドグラ・マグラ by 夢野 久作 (Yumeno Kyūsaku).
Novel wiki (Japanese): https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9
Author wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumeno_Ky%C5%ABsaku
I'm interested in how closely it followed the novel so I'll be reading that soon.
Aozora link if anyone is interested: https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000096/files/2093_28841.html
Unfortunately there's no English translation but IIRC there is a French one.
>>32431
Sorry, I probably can't help you because I got it from a private tracker. I saw a link with a bundle of games on sukebe nyaa.si including Higurashi and some other game with it and 1 seeder, but I'm not sure if that's accurate. Other than that maybe try searching the Japanese name + download. As a last resort you could try Perfect Dark (Japanese P2P).
>>32296
I've been planning to read this forever. It's such an interesting novel, too bad I know very little Japanese. The guy that was translating this disappeared a while back…
How much Japanese knowledge would you say is adequate for reading this. I'm still on my anki deck learning words so obviously it's going to take a while, but I really want to read this one day. It's my most anticipated visual novel read.
I've been planning to read this forever. It's such an interesting novel, too bad I know very little Japanese. The guy that was translating this disappeared a while back…
How much Japanese knowledge would you say is adequate for reading this. I'm still on my anki deck learning words so obviously it's going to take a while, but I really want to read this one day. It's my most anticipated visual novel read.
>>32452
I have found a working torrent link for anyone else interested: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/80476 it's stuck at 10.9% though
I have found a working torrent link for anyone else interested: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/80476 it's stuck at 10.9% though
>>32453
Hard to say, above average I guess. The style of writing felt closer to an actual novel than most other VNs I've played. With the exception of a few obscure words and kanji the vocabulary isn't too hard, but there are a lot of metaphors that might trip up beginners, plus the unreliable narration later might make things hard if you're not familiar with the language. I'd say give it a shot after you've read one or two visual novels or manga series and see how you do. If it's too hard just read more material until you're able to go through it smoothly.
Good luck in your studies.
Hard to say, above average I guess. The style of writing felt closer to an actual novel than most other VNs I've played. With the exception of a few obscure words and kanji the vocabulary isn't too hard, but there are a lot of metaphors that might trip up beginners, plus the unreliable narration later might make things hard if you're not familiar with the language. I'd say give it a shot after you've read one or two visual novels or manga series and see how you do. If it's too hard just read more material until you're able to go through it smoothly.
Good luck in your studies.
>>32452
If you want more denpage, then I can advise Odeon/Kusarihime/Kurai Nichiyoubi. Odeon is similar to Lain.
If you want more denpage, then I can advise Odeon/Kusarihime/Kurai Nichiyoubi. Odeon is similar to Lain.
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Although they are not from Japan I love Everlasting Summer(Russian) and Katawa shoujo(American) but The Fruit of Grisaia also was a great pleasure for me.
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>fate
>chaos
>steins;gate
ewww
look
Ｘ cringy games with plots that could have been written by 12 yos, the shounen manga of power point simulators.
Ｏ dating sims
>chaos
>steins;gate
ewww
look
Ｘ cringy games with plots that could have been written by 12 yos, the shounen manga of power point simulators.
Ｏ dating sims
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