What are some good visual novels to play in spring/summertime?
Not sure if you want translated or untranslated but off the top of my head
untranslated:>果てしなく青い、この空の下で…>水月 -すいげつ- >黄昏のシンセミア>君が望む永遠>Pure Mail>ALMA ～ずっとそばに…～
All spring/summer setting IIRC and many taking place during summer vacation.
Great horror/murder mystery with a bunch of SoL in the countryside during the summer.
Also lots of higurashi.
Wow. I remember making this post a long time ago.
I also remember when I first played SnU.
I couldn't stop jerking off
If you're into more hardcore fetishes, Euphoria is really good.
It has a story the anime-version couldn't hold up to.
Everlasting Summer is literally about summer.
it's a soviet vn though…
Just finished Muv Luv. Don't listen to the people who say you HAVE to read unlimited/extra before Alternative.
Don't listen to this person, muv luv must be played fully to be enjoyed.
Nah, I sorta felt the same as well. She was very endearing & enchanting at first, but became far too cruel & heartless for a delicate wizard like me to stay infatuated with her. For a start, the things she & Fuminori did to Yoh were simply unforgivable. No love can be fostered, sustained or even survive in the face of inflicting such massive suffering towards another. In the end though, despite relishing Saya's dying screams, her death remained somewhat bittersweet. Why did you need to be so cruel Saya? Why did it have to come to this? Perhaps the monstrousness of your origins combined with you absorbing the monstrousness of the human heart is enough to explain what I wish weren't true. You may not have realized it, but your death was a mercy, most of all to yourself. Goodbye Saya. You were never meant for this world. (Kneels down and places a single dandelion on Saya's desecrated little monster corpse)What is love? Saya don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.
When all's said & done, I'd much rather take Yoh or Ryoko over Saya. Might also try some of the other visual novels in this thread, since Saya no Uta was essentially my first.
I'm the type of guy to prefer Saya. It would be reveling to see the oligarch's factories crumble as a result of an eldritch converting everyone into meat monsters. Saya also has that otherworldly mystique to her that I would gladly offer myself to.
Well, like I said, perhaps I'm just a pansy, but Saya's growing propensity for sadism & abject cruelty as it manifests throughout the novel, really shattered the image I'd had of her. That being, a kind, gentle (well mostly gentle, given her diet), somewhat mischievous & misunderstood creature who simply wanted to be loved and whom would never hurt anyone, at least not intentionally. As a result, I could somewhat forgive what she did to Suzumi, given how naively ignorant & misguided her actions were to a certain extent and that even she herself suffered the repercussions from them, perhaps learning her lesson in the process. What she did to Yoh later on however? What she did with such premeditated, merciless cruelty? Why Saya? You were supposed to be better than this. Now you're just as monstrous & barbaric as the dirtiest of normalfags. Just as cruel & heartless as the most demonic of females. You were supposed to be different. I wanted you to be different. I mean, honestly, the way she just casually suggests that Fuminori should test out his axe on poor, little Yoh quivering in the corner. The fact she's already wracked with such constant pain, due to Saya's botched mutation of her, and that she would then go on to utter such a horrible, horrible thing. That hurts me Saya. That hurts me so much. By comparison, her "blooming", as it were, and dooming the world to an eldritch induced apocalypse, seemed tame by comparison. Anyway, like I said before, I'm a very gentle hearted wizard. Saya, despite her unassuming form, just felt so very coarse & jagged to me past a certain point. Like the pedals of a bashful, little flower, Saya's true face & heart, stomped the little flower of a Wizard I am flat. Again, all the horrible things she both says aloud & does and all the malevolence & sadism she delights in was simply too much for my delicate constitution. I suppose one could say Ryoko was also quite cruel in her own way, but even she seems mild by comparison. Why does everybody have to be so mean? I just wanted Saya to be my gentle wiz wife, not a cruel monster, taken after normalfags.
I don't remember her showing empathy to anyone except main character which was perfect to me. getting a second succubus having Saya was shit glad she got killed
also that shit felt forced like the studio told the creator lol we can't just have loli we need to appeal to norm audience add that cowtit too or else! that and the part we're Saya was raped sucked I forgive for killing a cat since she was an alien and didn't know much plus how many cats have humanity tortured in comparison is nothing
Now that the colder period of the year are here, what are your favorite vns to play during those fall/winter months?
White Album 2 Intro + Closing Chapter
Konata yori Kanata Made
Usually pick 2 or 3 of these to go through around the period from Thanksgiving to Christmas. I have fond memories of marathoning them during the holiday season when I was younger and had started learning Japanese fairly recently.
came here to post this, i'm not a big fan of VN's because they're mostly otaku centered escapism media wich is not what i seek but this one was different>>1909
it's fun you posted this track because it's my favourite of the game, i'll never forget the very moment this track plays for the first time, i prefer the version without the piano tho.
Narcissu is one of those stories that still stays with you years after, if some of you guys know some VN's with such a strong ambience/atmosphere as narcissu i'll take it. bonus point if it's depressing/sad.
Anyway, i recommend to all of you to read this VN, it really has something.
I would suggest reading Swan Song.
Im not sure if it is what you've asked for, but i think that this vn is surely worth one's time.
this sounds interesting eventhough artstyle looks meh and is mostly text
>>32061>Gnostic mythology>Christian mythology>World War II>Philosophy>Yakuza
Yeah this one's going in my backlog.
How the hell did you even find this, just tag searching?
The artstyle is awful though,but I will never be able to play it anyway because there's no eng patch.
Searching for random stuff while listening to music is one of my favourite things to do to relax
>>32064>How the hell did you even find this, just tag searching?
People were talking about it on 4chad after it got uploaded to bbs.ikfol
Holy fuck. I want to play this now.
"My hobby is cross dressing. I'm a man."
Can't say I give a shit about the creator's interests as long as the game is interesting though. He can be out fucking babies for all I care.
Everyone I've seen on imageboards uses it to designate people identifying as succubi and not just traps/crossdressers but if you want to pull out online English dictionary definitions and weren't using it that way then whatever.
Baldr Sky is releasing tomorrow. I hope is as good as people say
I've been reading it a bit. So far it's mostly been focused on exposition and a few short disconnected chapters of random people (guy who lives a normal life until old age and then contemplates that there was something wrong with that being all there is to life and then gets involved with some yakuza extorting a young succubus while in the hospital, and a rich man who runs for office and preaches about how humans are imperfect and need to strive to reach perfection to attain greater happiness, but then gets crushed by the overwhelming number of problems he needs to deal with while in office.
Now it's going through a book explaining gnostic beliefs. I don't know much about gnosticism apart from the shitposts people make here so it's kind of interesting. I just hope it's all building up to something.
Also really like the music.
Please let us know how it is by the end
I've generally avoided denpage because of a preconception that they all just deal with senseless insanity and random supernatural phenomena, which isn't really my cup of tea. Vid related showed up on my feed though, and skimming through it actually peaked my interest in the games it describes, which are considered the big 3 denpage in Japan. I decided to try out さよならを教えて first because the artstyle attracted me most out of the 3, and the protagonist is a teacher rather than a student.
I didn't expect much outside of crazy shit but this really betrayed those expectations, in a good way. There are a lot of crazy events and the narrative can feel even disconnected at times, but the writer incorporated all of this incredibly skillfully. It starts out with all the craziness happening in the protagonist's dreams, with something that looks like a Lovecraftian mass of tentacles raping one of his students while he watches. The protagonist has some odd delusions about her being an angel, but he recognizes them as such and so for the beginning stretch of the game it looks less like insanity and more like his repressed desire breaking through in his dreams.
As the game progresses day by day events become more intense and difficult to believe, with multiple rapes and BDSM-style torture being inflicted on his students. The brilliance, though, is that all this doesn't seem to come out of nowhere. It feels out of context and disconnected from reality, of course, but there are plenty of impressions and inner monologues from the protagonist that foreshadow his later actions, and above all it's difficult to distinguish whether many of these sex scenes are mere fantasies on his part or actual events (he himself is unable to draw a line between reality and fantasy). As you're reading it feels less like a world gone insane and more like a detailed psychological study into a deranged, yet still surprisingly self-aware and seemingly functional individual in the form of a fictional narrative.
(Rest of this spoils the end of the game)
The "twist" at the end is that the protagonist is actually a patient in a mental hospital. After growing up under a strict family near the bottom of the hierarchy, experiencing sexual attraction towards his older sister and being scolded after being caught peeping on her changing and stealing her clothes, and finally failing to become a teacher and follow in his sister's footsteps, he fell into insanity and extreme solipsism, which caused him to construct a new world where his environment is a school. The heroines of the game were inanimate objects and animals which he projected parts of his personality onto and personified as succubi. The twist wasn't that surprising, as there are lots of suggestions throughout the story, particularly in the events of the last few days before the end, but I don't think it lessened the impact of hearing the conversation between his sister and the doctor in charge of him and seeing the camera pan out to reveal an enclosed concrete building in place of the school grounds that were shown throughout the game.
After understanding this and viewing the previous events in the context of the protagonist's solipsistic construction I was both amazed at how well everything was put together to lead up to and conform to this, but also terrified by the idea of being stuck in what's essentially an eternal personal hell. During the ending events of the game the protagonist's constructed world starts to break down, leading to various spatial and temporal contradictions, and the protagonist gives hints of understanding that he's not a teacher at all. All the heroines, with a single exception, commit suicide one by one. Since they're all projections of the protagonist's personality -fragments of his character- I think this is indicative of the protagonist's self-destructive tendency (this is underwritten by several conversations near the end of the game where the protagonist talks about suicidal events with the bookworm heroine).
The tragedy is that, despite having a wish to die and longing after non-existence, stating it several times during the game and even "living it out" by committing double suicide with one heroine and getting shot by another in his fantasies, he's still unable to actually kill himself in the end. This really becomes clear in the route of the main succubus (睦月/Mutsuki, the one he calls an angel and sees in his dreams being raped). As it turns out near the end of the game she was the only one who was an actual person (though with the exception of one conversation, the protagonist's interactions with her are also hallucinations) - a high school succubus who was instituted for severe depression. For the protagonist the meaning of her being an "angel" seems to be a combination of some sort of platonic love mixed with a gross, repressed sexual desire, and also of a longing after death, which he projects onto her by constructing his own narrative where her "ascension" back to heaven is actually her hanging herself. As is revealed in the final conversation between his sister and his doctor, the protagonist and Mutsuki only had one actual conversation, right before she was discharged. For her it seems like a normal conversation, because he's talking about her "leaving", but his definition of "leaving" is her killing herself, which he sees in the end in one of his delusions where she hangs herself from a tree in a forest outside the school. The protagonist doesn't follow, however, and even in this ending it only ends with his constructed world breaking down, rather than him committing to dying. He can only take vicarious pleasure, accompanied by torturous frustration at his own impotence, in the hallucinated death he constructs for Mutsuki.
It seems for a time near the end that the protagonist will finally come back to reality and acknowledge his situation, but at the very end it turns out he's simply constructed another reality for himself - one as an intern at the mental hospital. A line of the lyrics for the ending song really poignantly describe the protagonist's situation perfectly - "終わりのない、永遠の夕暮れ時" - endless, eternal twilight, a reference to the fact that all events of the game take place during sunset. The protagonist is too weak to commit to death, despite his self-hatred, but he's also too impotent, and too terrified and anxious of losing meaning in his life by facing the reality where he wasn't able to make something of himself as a teacher. He's stuck in a loop of constantly constructing a narrative for himself as an escape, destroying it in his self-hatred through the rape and abuse of the succubi he materializes out of fragments of his personality, and reconstructing it when faced with the terror of either dying or coming back to the reality where he's basically a loser. The idea of being stuck in such an eternal loop, constantly building and tearing apart your own world, trapped in your own head in an eternal routine of self-flagellation, was absolutely terrifying for me.
There's a lot more I could write of regarding the protagonist and his different aspects (his messiah complex, his sadistic tendencies and viewing of beauty as the result of transience and the fragility of life, etc) but I'll stop there.
I also read and finished ジサツのための１０１の方法 today, so I might post about it another time. I'm still digesting it but it didn't impress me anywhere near as much as さや教 did. The beginning was promising and it did some neat things with blurring the lines between reality and fantasy via the dream argument, but it failed in developing characters sufficiently, which made a lot of the later action feel random and senseless (not in a good way or as a plot device, it just felt like certain characters were almost completely absent of motivation).
I'll probably also get around to reading 終ノ空, the third "big" denpage, eventually. Apparently it was a prototype for 素晴らしき日々.
Read Saihate no Ima if you know japanese and want to see the most over ambitious but well written sci-fi mind screw in otaku media. The story goes in so many different unconventional places and while it feels like it's constantly running on 30 layers at once, every tiny aspect of the story has a satisfying explanation and fits concisely into the main plot of the game. It doesn't abuse mental illness or red herrings, everything links back to the core sci-fi/human concepts.
The description on vndb doesn't describe the game at all.https://vndb.org/v1278
Fuck,I wish I could understand japanese,this sounds good as fuck.
How did you managed to learn?
just played Raging Loop, it was fun for awhile. The problem with VNs is that that the bad routes are always more fun while the "true" route is extremely boring so I rarely finish them.
DJT's guide on 4chad's jp board is a good start but I used a bunch of old websites and books that are outdated now then switched to mining from native material.
Thank you for the recommendation and (non-spoiler) synopsis.
Do you have a live magnet you're willing to share and/or seed?
The Rutracker one sadly seems to be dead.
I usually stay clear of games with focus on denpa characters simply because they're just such a pain to read if your Japanese is not on point. (Mine isn't)
But your post got me in the mood to try one again.
I'll write more briefly on the other game - forgot to come back to it due to wageslavery.
This one is about a high school boy who's obsessed with suicide and disillusioned with life, essentially viewing everything through a kind of gray-vision. The interesting part is that he's extremely deep into dreaming and fantasies (the game opens with him fantasizing about fucking his step-sister) and as the game progresses the line between delusion and reality is blurred.
The start was really strong and pulled me right in, in large part due to the unique concept, but it gets much weaker after the first hour when it introduces the more supernatural/denpa elements - suicide waves making people kill themselves - and moves on to the characters taking shelter in a classroom and shifts focus to the power dynamics in that situation. It continues to do some neat things with blurring the lines between reality and dreams/delusions but the storyline taking place in the school remains weak, especially because the actions and speech of the characters besides the protagonist are often inconsistent, or the sense of presence of certain characters is really almost nonexistent until the game nears its end. The last stretch is some odd shit which I read as the protagonist reconstructing parts of his reality in order to put himself into a more ideal eroge-type situation - tsundere stepsister, pure love with a childhood friend etc.
There's probably more I could draw from it but I'm not that interested in reading much deeper right now. Some guy on EGS said it was a homage to "Thus Spoke Zarathustra".
Apparently the story was very heavily taken from a 20th century Japanese sci-fi novel called ドグラ・マグラ by 夢野 久作 (Yumeno Kyūsaku).
Novel wiki (Japanese): https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9
Author wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumeno_Ky%C5%ABsaku
I'm interested in how closely it followed the novel so I'll be reading that soon.
Aozora link if anyone is interested: https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000096/files/2093_28841.html
Unfortunately there's no English translation but IIRC there is a French one.>>32431
Sorry, I probably can't help you because I got it from a private tracker. I saw a link with a bundle of games on sukebe nyaa.si including Higurashi and some other game with it and 1 seeder, but I'm not sure if that's accurate. Other than that maybe try searching the Japanese name + download. As a last resort you could try Perfect Dark (Japanese P2P).
I've been planning to read this forever. It's such an interesting novel, too bad I know very little Japanese. The guy that was translating this disappeared a while back…
How much Japanese knowledge would you say is adequate for reading this. I'm still on my anki deck learning words so obviously it's going to take a while, but I really want to read this one day. It's my most anticipated visual novel read.
I have found a working torrent link for anyone else interested: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/80476
it's stuck at 10.9% though
Hard to say, above average I guess. The style of writing felt closer to an actual novel than most other VNs I've played. With the exception of a few obscure words and kanji the vocabulary isn't too hard, but there are a lot of metaphors that might trip up beginners, plus the unreliable narration later might make things hard if you're not familiar with the language. I'd say give it a shot after you've read one or two visual novels or manga series and see how you do. If it's too hard just read more material until you're able to go through it smoothly.
Good luck in your studies.
If you want more denpage, then I can advise Odeon/Kusarihime/Kurai Nichiyoubi. Odeon is similar to Lain.