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I've come to this realization after watching tons of comedic, ecchi, slice of life cutesy animes. The characters precisely because of their simplified caricatured personalities form together a perfect universe - there are no imperfect parts to the characters, they're idealized to the utmost, every feature of their fits perfectly, the relationships as well. Anime is the better version of our world. I'm happy I have anime in my life. I can feel a huge variety of emotions while watching it, which are inaccessible to me in any other medium, be it movies, books, TV series, actual real life. I feel no connection to anybody in the real world. I care not for even for my parents. Yet I still cry for these animated characters. Nothing moves me but anime, the art style, the characters, the music, everything about it fills my soul with joy (and sadness, anger - the whole emotional scope, but mostly joy)

I hope when I die I'll go to 2D heaven.
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yeah, like watching a recording of yourself doing something but having vivid memories of doing that in first person.


Well you're a little love muffin, don't blame her!!!


i kinda like the re design more


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Highly disagree with the OP on the fact that anime is perfect and causes sentimental feelings but he has somewhat of a point.

When I first got into anime, I was younger and I liked it for not being as ugly and bland as most western cartoons airing at the time. It had action, pretty characters and was darn cool to me at that time. Nips really know how to draw people into their works.

However I got older, and realized that anime isn't "all that". Same formulas used in every genre, same character archetypes, similar stories, etc. etc. It wasn't that anime was bad, however it is simply a type of media that panders to an audience, so of course these things were going to happen and years of watching it was going to make me notice this. So whenever someone told me anime was a "masterpiece" or "profound" (like Madoka Magica, Lain, Cowboy Bebop, etc. etc.) I'd simply view the anime as mediocre or not as thought provoking as people thought it was. (Truthfully it really wasn't to be honest).

I feel like japs feel the same way, especially since they live around this stuff unlike the westerners who overrate it. Anime/light novels as a medium is largely directed at teenagers and children. Even the "seinen" anime are. Adults seem to be more into manga, visual novels, and video games. The only anime that really attract adults seem to be "moe" or fujo//u/ pandering (and maybe even isekai). Every other anime seems to have a smaller older adult audience and a larger child/teen/young adult view group.

Why is this? I guess it has somewhat to do with the "take it easy" phrase that /jp/ uses. Jap adults have to work arduous schedules at their jobs and their lives are constantly filled with stress and trying to have a good standing in society (high suicide rate is not there for no reason). That's why they love simple "moeshit" anime like Kemono Friends and Is Your Order a Rabbit? The characters are cute, the anime is easygoing, and it simply relaxing. No shounenshit and deepshit with constant shoving down philosophy and morals down your throats, none of that. Who wants to hear the same dull kindergarten tier philosophies over and over again that every adult is perfectly aware of after they come home from work? People rather watch something more comfortable and enjoyable. Probably why isekai is popular over there too. They can self insert into another world away from their stressful lives.

So, I guess I have a love hate relationship with anime. I used to be big onto deepfag and action packed shows. Anime was the best thing ever and I loved it for being so interesting and different. However, as I got older, and more aware of the world I realized that no anime is a "masterpiece" and even the ones that people call deep are all very simple with simple messages executed in various ways. I feel even that some of the ways the are executed are quite bland to, reaffirming my opinion on the fact that there is no phenomenal anime. This is an issue of all media.

If I want to invest my thoughts on something, I usually ponder over literature. Many can find that literature is more provoking than anime, especially interesting literature. Same goes with even manga and visual novels since more time is invested into these things to create a coherent structure. (Though these things too also suffer from troupes and such, especially visual novels)

I do enjoy anime though, mainly for the experience however. Some of my favorites include Dragonball, Riding Bean, Di-Gi Charat, Mitsudome', Dream Hunter Rem, Gunsmith Cats, Kanon 2006, succubi Und Panzer, etc. etc. All very nice to watch when I need to sit and relax a bit. I guess it doesn't have that shine anymore but I still greatly prefer it over western media.


>Same formulas used in every genre, same character archetypes, similar stories, etc. etc.

That's all media. Actually I feel anime does this less than western media does. Because they can afford to experiment a bit and break out of moulds because of how cheap anime is to make.


I mentioned that somewhere in that giant text of blog posting I believe.


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Also being visually different to stand out helps.


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Anime makes me sleepy


>Imo the people who still watch anime just haven't watched enough.

If they are only watching as a phase or to fit in then that's true, if they legitimately enjoy it then there is no reason why they would stop.


It's not a phase for everyone, it's fine if it was for you, to most people it is, particularly most westerners. Just because it was for you don't go assuming that it's the same way for everybody else though.


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Some people really don’t get bored of stuff anon. I have a friend who’s been playing world of Warcraft for 13 years now I think. And he stopped for maybe a year, and is now back playing wow classic. So it stands to reason there are people who are fine watching the millionth gundam rip off or lucky star clone.


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>posting this meme chart again, same filename as the other thread
>still claiming that anime is a phase with no evidence or arguments to back it up, just "you'll see when you get older" rhetoric
>still getting butthurt when people contradict you

So are you dariken, or just his gay lover?

I've come to the realization that I mainly watch anime for the atmosphere and "feel" that certain shows give off. Same for most other types of Japanese media, including games. Looking back at the plot for these things it's never that great and usually predictable, the themes are shallow, etc. But there are certain moments or elements that resonate with me, or the entire "feel" the work gives off is attractive to me. It's hard to explain.

My annoyance comes from the fact that it's getting harder for me to find these types of works and I feel like I'm running out of things to watch/read/play that I'll actually enjoy. I just end up dropping almost everything I pick up because it disappoints me.


As I said, it's fine that it was a phase for you, for most people it is. You are still making assumptions.


all of those things have more artistic merit than anime.
anime is generally on the same level as children's cartoons.


recommend some anime then you nerd


>all of those things have more artistic merit than anime.

No to everything except books, music, and theater.
Just lmao at thinking sports or boardgames as a whole have more artistic merit than any anime.
Although judging artistic value based on an entire medium rather than individual works is retarded anyways. Plus anime is not necessarily a medium and is more of a subset of movies/television, just animated and made in a certain country.


Oh and also entertaining how you conflate artistic value with popularity and/or enjoyment.


It depends on what books, music and theatre. Most books are generic, most music is generic and most theatre is the same old plays or generic. I would say anime has more artistic merit on average than any of these things.


That's dependent entirely on what your standard for weighing the total artistic value of a medium is. There are a lot of trash books and books have been around longer so of course there will be more generic ones total than generic anime. But there's literature and philosophy with artistic value that no anime has even reached the foot of.

But like I said comparing mediums as a whole is stupid anyways.


There are a great many generic books being published every single day, age has nothing to do with it. In fact it only means that the medium has been around long enough to have books that break out, if one book every 10 years did that there would be countless more good books than if even one anime a season did.

>But there's literature and philosophy with artistic value that no anime has even reached the foot of.

Philosophy is pretentious garbage. But then as you said.

>That's dependent entirely on what your standard for weighing the total artistic value of a medium is.

If people enjoy that kind of thing then they can, I don't mind.


>anime has more artistic value than film
no, it does not.


>Philosophy is pretentious garbage.


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Wow, such a witty retort, reading philosophy certainly does marvels for ones intellect.


It is a phase for everyone. You just haven't grown out of it yet.


I really don't know why you keep repeating this, as I keep saying, it's okay that it was a phase for you, for most people particularly most people in the west it is. Stop being so self centred and stop assuming that everybody feels the same way you do about everything. Your simple mindedness is getting to be irritating.


>Philosophy is pretentious garbage

You not understanding something does not make it pretentious.

lol how many times are you going to repeat this? You did this in the other thread too, I don't understand why you can't accept that some people just like different things than you.


>You not understanding something does not make it pretentious

And viewing something as pretentious does not make one not understand it.


If you gave it a chance and still think it's pretentious that's on you I guess. But it's not an argument against philosophy to say it's pretentious. And I doubt you understood it.


I've given it numerous chances. Really it's just the ramblings of an individual, if you like those ramblings that is fine but ramblings is all they are, to ascribe any higher meaning to them is just pretentious.


If you had actually read and understood something you would have more substantial critiques than "it's pretentious" and "it's just ramblings", which has really said nothing about why philosophy has no artistic value.
I'm not going to derail the thread further so chalk it up to a difference in opinion I guess. Artistic value itself can be very subjective as well.


Eventually you will get a reality check and realize how wrong you were at the time, but its ok if you are still young, there is time to learn from your elders.


I would say it's you that will get a reality check when you look outside your little bubble and see that not everybody is you but you never will.


So you are saying people get bored of books as well? That nobody over the age of 25 can read a book?


It's still consumption and as a wise person once said.

>Its not a matter of preference.


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That would still be preference and still be consumption.

The fact that you never enjoyed a book until you were 25 explains a lot though.


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Anime is a media of modern times. The majority of anime is designed to be sold and cater to the watcher/audience. If cutesy stuff is what you found to "work" for you OP, good for you, but to claim it to be "perfect" is a pretty big over-exaggeration that I cannot agree with.

And personally, the fact that 3d animates AND voices the succubi that you seemingly find perfect is to me wizmorally questionable.


I only enjoy the craziest moe shit the less realistic and morally correct the better for me I mean is supposed to be escapism fuck off with your reminders of real life limitations


Really? You don't know how reading a book is consumption? You are still consuming media, books are a form of media and by reading it you are consuming it.


>Its not a matter of preference

>Rather, it is about realizing the transcience of consuming,

This is what your argument lies on, apples and oranges are both fruits and if you are arguing against fruits as a whole then that argument will affect both apples and oranges, not just whatever one you choose.


Cartoons are ugly garbage made by caveman though.




I think he means cartoons as in what the west produces as opposed to anime.


Anime is still a cartoon.


So you agree that Anime is dumb and ugly? I don't get it.


And your mum is still an ape.


That is why I call it the superior art and the rest, inferior arts. Even when I had to mention anime in a professional essay or something.


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There should be more anime on feudal china.


Strongly disagree. Especially nowadays, most shows and everything simply can't exist without cute females.


it's no worse than western media that can't create anything without multiculturalism and political correctness, I prefer the way anime does it personally


Try Koihime Musou unless you hate cute stuff

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