Is anyone else exceedingly bothered by the fact that they forget anime they've seen? It's like losing an important part of yourself. All these worlds and characters, even if they're fictional, feel dear to me, yet I forget what happened to them and sometimes their existence as a whole. Of course, you can re-watch anime (I'm on a spree of doing that right now), but it still upsets me.
It's as if these shows are disposable information to fill my time with, and can subsequently be discarded once I've "consumed" them. I despise my brain for failing to even roughly recollect the events of an episode I saw a month ago, yet recalling that time a random kid in elementary school made a sarcastic comment about my cellphone on the landing of the northeast stairwell, between the third and second floor. Do I have a normalshit brain that marks memories pertaining to fictional stories as unimportant and consequently, readily deletes them? How can I remember the series I've seen better? As autistic as it sounds, I've resorted to taking notes on anime and reviewing them at irregular intervals, but even that ends up in me only remembering the general plot of the show, with the finer details as well as recollections of the sounds and visuals falling through the cracks.
I never forget anime I've seen (about 800 titles so far), but I do sometimes forget what they ended with. Maybe it's because endings in anime are often underwhelming or "open". Also I tend to forget names, especially in comedies and SoLs.
Doesn't bother me too much though tbh since I archive most anime that I really liked anyway.
One advice I can give for improving memory is more fresh air and physical exercises. No need to become a gymcel or anything - just air your room more often and do some push ups and other such stuff several times a day. Improving diet might also help.
You don't remember them because they sucked, disposable information to fill your time indeed, I only watch anime that I enjoy and I never forget what I watched, of course if you fill all your time with endless shitty moe sol crap you're not going to remember it
That's quite enviable. Although I do usually at least remember names fairly well. Thanks for the tip; I will consider it as I have heard that exercise improves brain function a lot.>>27918
I very much forget anime that I liked a lot too, though. That doesn't even seem to be a factor in how well I recall a series. I did notice that episodic shows are more difficult to remember, however.
Because as time passes you forget things. The more bland and shitty the show the faster it goes away from your memory.
>>27918>shitty moe sol crap
He didn't even mention what genres he prefers, but of course you absolutely had to make that shart anyway.
because if you're forgetting what you watch then you're obviously not watching anything worth remembering, shit like umaru or succubi und panzer is what comes to mind when I think of forgettable trash that an anime nerd might go through
>>27922>if you're forgetting what you watch then you're obviously not watching anything worth remembering
Not necessarily, there are multiple other possible reasons. And entertainment media in general usually isn't educational or informative enough to warrant some deliberate memorization on the part of an average viewer.
Some people just forget things easier for various reasons.
>shit like umaru or succubi und panzer is what comes to mind
You are either trolling or a complete newfag who doesn't know what he's talking about. GuP was memorable enough due to the exploitation of tank nerd topic as well as having catchy songs. And Umaru became a meme that you cannot forget even if you try.
It's obvious you are just a snobbish hater, so stop trying to pick a fight.
>>27923>stop trying to pick a fight
you're the one trying to do that, I personally hate both shows, both could put me to sleep and are extremely unmemorable/boring, it's just an example of why someone wouldn't be remembering what they watch. Like OP said, he remembers something from his childhood that caused some kind of emotional response, he's obviously not remembering his anime because he's not emotionally involved, rather, he's just watching crap to waste time, and I know that the easiest crap to watch is "cute anime succubus"-centric shows made for teenagers
I have watched hundreds of SoL titles as a means of "wasting time" yet somehow I remember all of them (at least in general). Which means, the shows themselves (which, once again, he didn't even specify) aren't the source of OP's problems.
>both could put me to sleep and are extremely unmemorable/boring
I bet you haven't even watched either of them and drew your judgement from screenshots, as is usual for pretentious /a/-tier pseudo-elitists.
>"cute anime succubus"-centric shows made for teenagers
Their target audience are usually males after 20, and the majority of CGDCT manga (like the ones published in Kirara magazine) is classified as seinen.
I don't care what your opinions or assumptions about me are, I was just giving examples from my experiences to OP
That's why you create a list, retard.
OP here. I do agree with your experiences to an extent; at least, I, personally, am not partial to SOL/CGDCT type of anime, and that may be in part due to them being less memorable. But as I said previously, it's not as if I remember plot-driven series a whole lot better, and even if a show produces an emotional response in me, it's not going to stay in my memory that much longer. Maybe it's simply because I've become a lot more apathetic over the years and nothing affects me significantly anymore.>>27927
What sort of list? I have a MAL, if that's what you're talking about. The problem isn't that I don't recall which series I've seen (I mostly do), I forget the contents.>>27928
This is an interesting idea. I think I've been overlooking this too much, especially for shows with more complex stories. When do you usually think about such things? While you're watching an episode? After each/a number of episodes? Before/after finishing a series only?
Are you me? I finished this anime a few days ago, Hopefully you started by reading the manga.
>>27929>When do you usually think about such things?
Usually while I'm watching or some time after finishing an episode. I don't really make a conscious effort to do it so it's hard to explain, but during the episode I frequently think about the things I mentioned. It's not really deep contemplation or anything since part of my attention is focused on the screen, they're just passing thoughts about what things could represent, how the relationship between 2 characters might progress, how something in the show is similar to something else I've read or watched, etc. After watching an episode I reflect on it a little, maybe predicting how the next episode will play out and thinking about the significance of events in the past episode(s), and then move on. I usually don't watch more than 2-4 episodes in a row though.
After finishing a series it's usually the same as above, but reflecting on the series as a whole and maybe thinking about things like foreshadowing that was present in earlier episodes, how characters changed, the overall message(s) of the show, etc. I also consider what I liked about it and why, i.e. was the pacing good, were the characters well written, was the dialogue realistic, were the ideas conveyed well, etc.
From the OP post it seems like you might be too focused on attempting to memorize and rehearse all the little details while watching. It's kind of like reading a novel and focusing all your energy on memorizing the sequence of words themselves vs. focusing on the meaning behind the words and passages and what the author is trying to get across. If you stop worrying about constantly recalling and memorizing and instead just focus on what's going on in the moment while reflecting on the stuff I mentioned above you might have an easier time recalling the important aspects of the show.
No, but I plan on reading it now since the anime felt pretty rushed. I still enjoyed it, and it's somehow one of the more memorable series I've seen even though it crams so much information into a mere 13 episodes.>>27931
Now that I think about it, I do actually do most of what you describe in the first paragraph, to an extent. It's a bit difficult for me to focus on what's happening on the screen if I'm thinking about something else, so I only do this for slower-paced series, but I generally reflect at least a bit about character relationships and relate the events that transpired to other works.
On the other hand, I notice I don't think about the aspects you listed after finishing a series. You're on point about me focusing too much on the little details and not "zooming out" enough to see the bigger picture. Thank you for pointing that out, and listing the specific things you ruminate about as well. That gives me a good starting point in order to attempt to implement this for myself.
I don't forget anime unless they were extremely mediocre. I wish I could forget anime though so I could rewatch them with the same kind of feeling I had when I watched them for the first time.
I have this problem with everything I consume. Games, movies, anime. If you asked me to remember details about anything I watched in the past I doubt I could remember it.
I'll admit this is a bit of a perk that you get if you're forgetful. Still, the really great shows rarely lose much of their appeal even if you re-watch them while remembering most of the plot details.>>27985
It's not limited to anime for me either; in fact, I think I have even more trouble remembering anything from video games. I don't care as much about those since they rarely offer a compelling plotline, however.
Anyway, in case anyone cares, I did begin doing some light pushups everyday and reflecting more on things like character interactions and relating anime to other series that I've seen. I can't say if any of it is helping yet since it hasn't been long enough.
>because if you're forgetting what you watch then you're obviously not watching anything worth remembering, shit like umaru […]
Fuck the plot, it's about the characters. And I memorized any facettes and even the voice, even though I don't understood anything than oneeeechan~ and like that.
I know how they act, how they react, how they live. And when I felt near to them, I projected my own habits into them and they gave it back to me.
So it's not about what Umaru-chan did exactly, it's about what Umaru-chan usually does and I like it. Same goes for any more char I can relate to,
may it be Tomoko or Konata or whatever. Anime is often very simple for that reason. I dislike that simplicity sometimes, but I understood, why it's done.
A likeable character that is never being harmed or needs to solve complex problems, that's a good escape from reality.
Pic related, that is what Umaru-chan is about IMHO.
>>27916>It's as if these shows are disposable information to fill my time with, and can subsequently be discarded once I've "consumed" them.
I think we're on to something here. I'ts your way of looking at it. I don't care about it as much as i do. I only regret not saving names for times when i want to re-watch something years later but forgot the titles.>>27922>like umaru >>27923>And Umaru>>27994>3x what Umaru
MODS MODS MODS
Mentioning a character's name is not against the rules.
The voice acting and japanese is important to me. I like how they say it, the combination with the visuals, and reading the subtitles at the time.
There's no way I'd remember every Rin-ne episode, they feel so throwaway. There are some cool situations like Rinne's dad being a magnificent cunt to everyone but most of the enjoyment I get comes from Sakura being cute and having a calming voice. I couldn't watch 20mins of only Sakura, but because of the plot I can imagine much more about her and what she's feeling, I can care more about someone I will never know because the plot brings out her reactions.
Not understanding the japanese makes it better. I don't want to know what they are saying, it makes it easier to concentrate on the sound of the language instead of the meaning of it.
Everyone has their reason why they like anime. Whether they want to be little anime succubi and live in an eternal bubble of happy and comfortable feelings for the rest of their lives, or they feel they can't be loved so they want a beautiful appearance and meaningful relationships.
I think there are also people who only want cool and serious stuff in their anime like Onihei, Psycho-Pass, something that makes them feel more adult or they like the ideas and tone presented in those stories.
I like to see whats there. Often I'll remember something that an anime succubus said, some memorable line that I really liked and try to remember who said it, but usually I fail. What's important is the enjoyment, not why you enjoy it or what you happen to enjoy about it. Would you rather enjoy things only in a specific way that you knew beforehand, or be surprised by seeing something that you didn't think you would like making you like it?
nope, because when i learn a sufficient amount of japanese i wanna rewatch all the ones i watched with english subtitles again without english subtitles
i have one anime that i want to watch it so badly but i can seem to rember its name, and i still remember the cover art and the plot but i don't know where to look. feelings of dread.
Have you already described the cover and plot summary here somewhere?
Plot is nothing without characters and characters are nothing without goals to accomplish.
What is the right monitor for?
You forgot anime, books, tv that didn't impress you. That's fine.
Just do rewatch sessions. From time to time when i cant find any new decent anime to watch i just pick one of my favorites and rewatch it and when i got a taste of it, because i always recognize how much i missed out on shows, i just keep going until something good is releasing.
1 - Writing a review of the show after you've viewed it helps.
2 - I don't know about you, but after I watch a show and then 'forget it,' I tend to have a 'fog of war' kind of memory when I return to it. After a few episodes, it's like my brain can surprisingly dig up the rest.
3 - Don't feel sad about the food you've forgotten, feel glad about the nutrition it's given you.
very wrong, unimportant detail can stay vivid yet important information is lost all the time, the brain is not nearly as productivity oriented and efficient as you seem to believe
I forget anime that I didn't enjoy enough to remember, so should you.
This is not a problem, in fact it's a blessing. You can watch the same show again and again, and enjoy it almost like you did for the first time you watched it, except for the vague feeling of familiarity. Soon, or very soon, depending on the extent of the time contraction you're currently experiencing, anime will turn to complete shit as it enters the period when traditional animation is too expensive, and the 3DCG is still not good enough to replicate it, and you'll be thankful you still have a huge library of shows you can come back to.
It is of course sad and disgusting that one's brain remembers the things it wants to remember and not the things one wants to remember, but you must remember that we live in a material realty in which your own self, your own body, and your own genes are all acting with different, sometimes directly opposite goals in mind. Your watching anime in the first place is to escape this reality, so don't be too sad at getting to both have your heroin and shoot it.
I have this problem, but not with anime, since I'm a pretty casual anime fan all things considered. For me, it takes the form of video games and trying to remember, in any particular game that I've played/finished in the past that I suddenly try to test my memory with, what each of their levels were, what their final bosses were, what their stories were, or even just what their names were. I also experience this with random topics as well. Just the other day I was trying to recall what the name of that Nordic serpent that encircles the world is, but after a whole day of letting it alone and waiting for it to come to me, it never did, so I just caved and looked it up. My memory is pretty much 50/50 at best, especially when it comes to random topics. I'm usually quite pleased with myself if I can manage to remember something especially random like that and it sucks that I couldn't manage to do it this time.
As far as anime is concerned, I'm actually amazed at, not just what I can't remember, but what I actually missed while I was even watching it the first time. For instance, I literally just realized not too long ago that Asuka tried to kill herself after she couldn't come to grips with how low her sync ratio was. I always thought she just kinda wandered off and was doing whatever and didn't even compute what, I'd imagine anyways, was pretty much obvious to anyone else.
The same sort of thing is true for films & manga as well, even though I don't watch many films these days or read much manga. I read 'Goodnight Punpun' a number of months ago and I'm pretty sure I missed plenty of obvious things in that as well.>>32468
>Your watching anime in the first place is to escape this reality, so don't be too sad at getting to both have your heroin and shoot it.
Hmm, that's a really good way to put it, I think. Framing it this way even helps me myself with the things I'm frustrated that I can't remember since, as you say, it's to be expected since my mind is rotting & getting worse as I partake in the escapism that I try to remember, even though its very nature erodes the capacity to do so in the first place. And, of course, it's inherently difficulty to remember what are otherwise very forgettable things like mediocre games/anime, or what have you. Even so, I had high hopes for exercise & a healthy diet to improve my memory capacity, but it hasn't really improved much. I think at best it's just slowing the decline any further. Reversing the damage being basically impossible.
Remembering the name of the Norse serpent will always be hard because you don't speak Norse. That's the big mistake of our general education system, where many scientific terms are in Latin/Greek, and poor kids are expected to remember them while not being offered even rudimentary Latin/Greek courses. The brain more easily remembers words that have their semantic payload reflected in their morphology. It's one of the reasons why people construct those terms in that meaningful way, instead of making up completely random new words every time they need to name something. Your serpent's name probably just means "big snake" or whatever.
Your mind rotting is just another example of the betrayal of self by the body. Escapism or not, it would rot anyway, and arguably at the same rate, and even if you managed to halt or even reverse the decay of the mind by whatever arcane arts, the decay of the rest of the body would still progress, sooner or later taking its effect on the mind anyway.
And besides, if you look up how those mnemonists manage to remember all those insane amounts of random information, you'll learn that memory works in the saddest, dumbest way possible. In fact I wouldn't recommend looking it up so that you spare yourself the disappointment. Just know that our brain is not geared up to the tasks our selves put it to. It's not a computer, it's not even a calculator. Civilization demands we stray further and further away from what we evolved to be, and you can't really stop it, but at least it was considerate enough to give us anime and other beautiful things to console ourselves with. Rejoice then in letting your brain remember what it may and letting go freely of the rest, for you as a wizard are one of the few that can afford it, and though perhaps not for as long as you would want to, still for much longer than most even dream of.
>Remembering the name of the Norse serpent will always be hard because you don't speak Norse.
Yeah, I just thought I'd remember it because it's shown up in video games, and other random bits of media, I've consumed. Otherwise it's the sort of thing that I of course wouldn't have any chance of remembering, or even knowing in the first place. Even having said that, the name still seemed unrecognizable to me and what I thought was on the tip of my tongue wasn't even close to it.
Anyway, I appreciated reading your reply. It's actually boosted my spirits in this regard, so thanks. I know shouldn't stress so much about my iffy memory, and my other middling mental faculties, so it's reassuring to have someone else, such as yourself, say as much and to also remark on how limited the processes that guide our minds are anyway. The next time I can't remember something, I'll be sure to at least remind myself of what you said here, since it already makes me feel better about it.
I'm autistic so I miss 90% of everything anime tries to convey anyways. It makes it interesting watching.
There's this one scene in Princess Principal near the end of S1 where Ange admits she was suicidal. It's one line, but it changed my view of her character completely.
The whole Ange is actually the- yeah I won't spoil it. But, that was an awesome, awesome twist.
i also dont remember what i recently watched but for different reasons. i look too hard into it, searching for meaning or important messages when theres none,and i sometimes take this to schizo levels. for example,i didnt enjoy kakegurui too much because i was focused on the supposed moral lessons the caracthers were trying to convey,when they are actually just a bunch of crazy gambling addicts. i projected a lot of stuff i was thinking about in tokyo ghoul as well,witch distorted the experience the author intended. its cool to make connections and think about the caracthers,but looking for depth when there is none will make you stop paying attention to the show,and keep you thinking about an imaginary meaning that doesnt exist.
It usually takes me years to forget the details of both good and bad anime.
The one thing that I have trouble remembering is names, both of characters and of Japanese titles.
So I occasionally look through the streaming sites I use (why download when HD streaming is just as good and I only ever watch something once every few years anyway) reading the description of a anime not sure if I have watched it but have forgotten the name of it, or if I haven't and it is just super similar to something I watched. This leads me to loading up the first ep only to find within the first 2 or 3 minutes for all the memories of the show to come flooding back in and me remembering that the show was actually pretty mediocre and not really worth a re-watch.
Last show for me to do that with was C³ (Cube×Cursed×Curious) but since I couldn't remember the plot details I watched it over. Then I was reminded why I couldn't remember the plot details, because the show was super lite on plot to begin with, and what little was there was cliche and lame.
I also have trouble keeping track of which gundam shows and movies I have already watched because after all these years the names sort of blend together and the plots, story arcs, and just about everything else is very similar.
Back in the 00s I actually had a physical to watch list and log book kind of thing. Gundam had it's own page, lol.
Now I don't really keep any sort of physical or digital record. If I remember it then unless it is really good and I am in the mood for it I probably wont watch it. If I don't remember it, or barely remember the details because it has been years and it sounds interesting then I will watch it.
Lot of people touching on this, but it bears mentioning directly. Memory is about connections. The more angles you've got to grapple with a fact, the more likely you are to stumble upon it,, refreshing your memory, and the more likely you are to make your way to any other fact, from it. It's very difficult to remember things in a vacuum. It's even harder to retain it. We're not computers, we weren't made to handle unstructured nonsense. If we can't meaningfully tie things together, trying to remember them is a fool's errand, and only at all possible with continued effort.
It's very hard to remember a show if you're just along for the ride, following the plot. It's all A->B->C->D and so on. That's an ordered set, one thing leads to another. It's a very fragile arrangement, and there are only so many ways you can arrive at, say, C, and only so many paths from it: remembering it does not refresh your memory about much else. That's why late-game revelations about characters are so easily recalled. It's stronger than an introduction, because it forces you to go back and reexamine everything about that character. It connects to everything, and you will keep bringing it up because it splits every event and interaction of that character into two: before you were in the know, and were just glimpsing at the table, and after you've gotten to take a look at your own cards. It's virtually impossible not to think of, it's always just a step or two away.
I've a remarkably shoddy memory, myself, so it's not hard to tell the difference between when I'm actually engaging with a subject, and when it's just going in one ear and out the other. Some series I remember very vividly, and once, with GITS arise, I remembered so little of it I accidentally rewatched the whole thing before, in the very end, realizing I'd seen it before.
Now, if you know the characters, you can smell an out-of-character moment from a mile away. That takes you out of it, makes you refocus, think about what's throwing him off, right? Pause if you have to. Rewatch the scene, and let it sink in, if you've found a gamechanger: you will remember that.
If you know the plot, the characters, their goals, you can start weaving a pretty intricate web, thinking about their relations, what they're trying to get out of each other, how they view each other. Add the themes and you've got a whole new dimension to it, and then there's the inspirations for the work, and others that do similar things but to a different end, and so on. Compared to just trying to remember what goes on in terms of plot from scene to scene, this is not a lot of individual points to remember. But it makes for a very dense web, with a lot of shortcuts, and a lot of connections going from each node.
I'm not exactly a people person, and I'm even worse with themes, so that means a rewatch. I like to keep some notes, because I don't like doing it immediately, and there wouldn't be much point if I'd forgotten everything. But that's just a fresher, don't try and cram a list into your head. Memory's made and kept by thinking: navigating that web, and adding to it. It's not made by forceful drilling. That can provide you a foundation, but the method does not scale. We're not made that way. If you do not recall a fact you know, you will in time forget it. A bunch of independent bits and pieces, or an ordered list, do not refresh your memory effectively. It's a mathematically inferior structure, and it leaves no possibility of reconstructing a node once it's been forgotten.
If you want a simple, one-step guide, just talk to someone about it. That forces you to structure your thoughts. It also gives you a new perspective, and if it's in person, it's galvanized by all manners of emotional fuckery.
>>27916>ITT: OP is me but actually capable of putting this into words
Seriously though, I feel you. It's one of the few comforts I have, and I actually keep a list of the ones I've watched, but when I look at it a lot of times I see something only only remember the premise of it and a hazy idea of the ending. A lot of my watchlist is just things I want to re-watch.
95% of the time I watch anime completely drunk. I have only rewatched one anime in my life. Renkin san-kyuu magical pokaan forty two times now. I have no interest watching most anime more than once and I ALWAYS wait until the anime has come out on bluray subbed in 1080p unless its an old anime so I am always watching it at its best quality uncensored with any animation errors corrected.
I don't remember most anime plots because i can't follow them in the first place.I have low IQ and attention span so I always get confused and can't make sense of the plot, let alone comprehend the deeper meanings behind the story.I almost always have to resort to wikis or YouTube videos for explanations.I have to admit it's quite frustrating.Thats why I tend to prefer lighter anime which have less intricate plots
When I consume any kind of media only once (except music), I only remember very specific lines/scenes. Surely you randomly remember the most intriguing bits and pieces, right? If you really want to remember well, I suggest watching repeats or reading the source material.>>33568>I keep a list and I give every show a score
I put the date I finished watching. Then again, I'm a huge date autist - give me any title from 2002 and on, I could tell you what season it debuted and if/when I watched it.>>33572>mfw he watched Shakugan no Shana S3
I once watched this one anime basically:
>vehicle of transportation (for the main characters) was a tank
>large alien bugs (strong enough to destroy a tank) sometimes came after them
>they worked for a company in shipping cargo (?)
And thats basically all I remember of that anime and the fact that I really liked it. It's honestly depressing when you forget something that you enjoyed.
A while ago I was watching the movie Jin-Roh, knowing that Mamoru Oshii movies can be quite confusing for me, I was concentrating especially hard to follow everything, after the ending I was like "so that's how it is huh, I finally got it"
went online to affirm my understanding, and of course I was totally wrong, at least that's an excuse to rewatch animes
I just use Taiga to log what I watch. My memory is horrendous.
definitely, but it aids in enjoying shounen time after time having rewatched some 10 times. I used to be concerned about not carrying it with me until I read higurashi. It was like a 100 hour long read but I pretty much remembered every single thing even after a year away. You should try it, if you want to have a stellar piece of dojin work to have in you forever, but only if you haven't seen the adaptations.
If you're talking about the third: the succubus with the blue eye that I think you're talking about, your memory is really spotty. If you want the anime you can find it on nyaa.si. Exiled destiny has a torrent with seeds
That's just a word filter. Replace it with g*irl incase anyone gets confused
Yup that's it. Thanks a lot you are a lifesaver. I honestly couldn't remember anything except the setting. I watched this anime like over a decade ago on a streaming site and over time completely forgot about it
I watched more than 100 anime and don't remember much
Yep, it bothers me.
I feel like that's common for people who get really into anime and watch a lot of it.
I have over one thousand anime logged on my MAL and I truly only remember a handful of them, because so many of them were mindnumbing harem and ecchi comedies that really had nothing going for them.
Also even for anime you like, if you're anything like me, its morely likely to remember certain story beats and parts that made an impact on you rather than every single detail.
If you still feel bummed about it I'd reccomend rewatching anime you really liked, its a nice experience when you start remembering things along the way.
yea but such is the nature of this shitty universe entropy consumes everything but in the meantime the memories we don't want stick around
If you asked me to remember details about anything I watched in the past I bet I would barely remember it.
How many films/shows have you rewatched? In my opinion it is necessary to view a show several times to fully digest it properly. The media landscape we inhabit may discourage such consumption habits, due to the astonishing pace with which crap gets shoveled out.
Just watch what you like