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i really hate that out of context quote from Miyazaki, as if he didn't build his own fantasy-worlds full of his dream waifus

thanks for the link I will check it out, looks cool to visit the convention without actually wading through masses of people, wonder if that will be the future

>>34284
It's not out of context, it's just made up.

>>34284
I love it exactly because it is so ridiculous. It is the perfect meme.

>as if he didn't build his own fantasy-worlds full of his dream waifus
for me he always felt like the oriental Walt Disney. just with a little bit of environmentalism. His movies always felt more like fairy tales then otaku fanservice. Hideaki Anno is for me more like what you describe. To me it felt like he just invented this entire evangelion lore to find a justification why he can put 13 year old succubi in latex suits and showcase them in his show without being accused of perversion.

Miyazaki was also one of the guys who complained about the moe genre that has become more and more popular. But the interesting thing is when you take a look at his works, he was heading into that direction himself the older he was getting. For example his earlier works all had a rather more darker atmosphere or thematic. Be it living in a post apocalyptic wasteland (nausica), the struggles of becoming adult and self sufficient (kiki), war/fascism and betraying your comrades (porco rosso), humans going to war with each other and shooting off their limbs or spitting blood (mononoke hime), humans polluting the rivers (spirited away). Even Totoro had this one scene where they find the missing succubi shoe and for a second you really feel like someone killed or kidnapped her.

And Ponyo was very similar to the moe stuff he critisized: cute slice of life stuff without any deeper meaning or moral lessons for the children who watch them. I also liked that he incorporated his passion for planes in so many of his anime. even if kaze tachinu felt like a letdown somehow, porco rosso was wonderful. I wonder if he is happy with kaze tachinu as it is. I read somewhere he wanted this to be his last plane film and it always felt like it was not good enough for him personally.

>thanks for the link I will check it out, looks cool to visit the convention without actually wading through masses of people, wonder if that will be the future
You welcome. I also wonder if this will become a new trend. to become more and more online oriented in the future.
and I wonder why so many conventions take place in summer. people are all sweaty and it is horribly warm inside any building that has no air conditioning. In winter they could just open all windows whenever temperatures go higher then they want them to be. When you see the fully costumed cosplayers you wonder how they survive the heat under those costumes they wear entire day.

What I like about those conventions is that they always try to invite scene figures like authors, voice actors or cosplayers and make events with them. If it was just a bazaar for comic books I doubt anyone would go there when he can just order the managa from amazon.

No thank you

>>34290
yeah I always find it baffling when the people who made it in a profession that really interests them then start bitching about how shitty it is, and Anno is pretty much the same from what I have read.

I agree you are right about Anno mostly, the difference could be that he himself was already an otaku, which led him to pursue that passion in the first place, hence lot of obvious in your face otaku fanservice (don't know how much of a say other gainax members had in the production, or how much of the sexy latex suit idea came from the designer Sadamoto), but I think it is funny that Miyazaki probably also influenced Anno while taking him under his wings, apparently he took Anno's tape player during their work together but also gifted him a moped, which could mean that Gendo himself can be seen as Miyazaki.

Hmm I wouldn't compare Ghibli movies to Disney really, for example early Disney productions often adapted already existing fairy tales (and rewriting them for happy endings), there was always a clear line between good and evil (Scar was bad and deserved to die, no matter his circumstances), and as far as I know Disney movies seemed more a team effort as a whole.
As you wrote Miyazaki used lot of different gritty themes in his movies, he always provides plausible explanations for both sides of the conflicts, and most important he seemed to write a lot of the stories by himself without adapting from anywhere (except Kiki I believe? Even there he only took the character and wrote his own story), which is what I wanted to say originally: I think Miyazaki's movies are telling much more about himself than Disney movies tell about Walt Disney.

In what way exactly Miyazaki admires all his beautiful/strong female leads, I don't know, only that they are a big part of his escapism, which lead my to my statement.

Oh I really need to rewatch Ponyo, I only saw it once when it came out a long time ago

In my country conventions also get bigger every year which also gets more stressful,
still I liked browsing the bazar full of merchandise, even if they are mostly too expensive compared to online.

>>34312
lol he was a waifufag after all

so did anyone watch this event so far
I saw the concert tonight.
They played a few shonen anime opening songs. Also recognized the one from Code Geass

Apparently tomorrow there is another concert.

>>34304
what a wonderful picture

>>34323
watched it for a bit, was a bit disappointed that there was no amv-contest, also wasn't really interested in the presentations it was kind of strange

>>34284
I used to mess with people all the time with this fake quote all the time a few years ago. God it was funny how some people reacted back then. Now it's like the old chan culture which we are currently in, has seen it all

>>34284
>>34286
Yes, they should've used used actual Miyazaki quotes

>>34304
I think you're looking at the wrong movies and in the long way.
Walt himself in his films isn't as pronounced Miyazaki is in his and he definitely felt like a business man first and an artist second, but there are some parallels, like Walt's love for trains and Miyazaki's love for planes. It just manifested more into theme parks and some live-action movies then it did with animated films, marked by an extreme sense of sentimental nostalgia, wanting to go back to his childhood and dissatisfaction with his later years. And maybe his focus on fairy tales is a sign that this was always present within him.
Sage for probably being extremely off topic

>>34462
He still mentioned his dissatisfaction about self-absorbed otaku, but he rambled about a lot of things.
I actually searched for the drunk Miyazaki paper but couldn't find it, nice!

>>34465
Honestly it's been a while since I dug into Disney works besides the old movies and comics, which I mainly enjoyed in my childhood, so my comparison was a bit one-sided.

Makes sense that Walt Disney also was invested in the medium or he wouldn't have started the business, the company just got very big which usually means less personal involvment, but I don't even know how long he was calling the shots in their creations, so it's interesting to learn about his possible motivations in the way you described. We could probably go much deeper into his influences via old interviews etc., but honestly I am too lazy for that haha

>>34462
Old man is bitter; news at 11.