To continue our dessert exploration, the problem I have with them is that regular food provides nutrition while ALSO providing short term pleasure in it's satiating of hunger and great flavors as well. Why would I ever bother with a dessert that has no long term benefit and only short term pleasure, while for instance a nice slab of salmon not only satisfies my hunger and desire for flavor, but also has future benefits that will come to give me longer lasting happiness? Even then, due to being "dessert" its generally limited in flavor to being sweet to appease our human nature of loving sugary things; yet a normal meal can have sweet flavors or not at all, showing another variable that desserts lack in. There are more or less healthy desserts, unique flavor combinations within some, and can be better or worse off than each other; my point is that by default desserts are lesser than a proper meal.
I haven't watched Stella no Mahou, nor will I honestly, sorry but I've seen enough moe to last a lifetime. So it's hard for me to speak about how valid your ideas on that show are, but if I am to guess by "happening gradually" and being "subtle" you mean to say that in small moments hidden among the idiotic moe conversations, there is sometimes a show worth watching hidden deep in the trash pile. This is a problem I have with many moefans, they (maybe you or maybe not) take this position as if I believe there is NOTHING good in moe, which is simply not true. Not only that but they pretend as if I think their shows have NO themes or something of the matter. The problem isn't that there is never a single moment of possible interest, the problem is that the moments of interest are so thinning scattered throughout, and upon reflection you realize something important… the best parts are when it ISN'T being a moe show for a few seconds or whatever they allow. That in reality a pure SOL that's made well takes the slow and "gradual" approach of moe, but instead of insulting the viewer with a never ending assault of worthless scenes - each moment has purpose in the longer outlook of the story. 3 Gatsu is a great story, and its SOL as all hell. Another great example is Only Yesterday by Ghibli, not as popular as their usual works but man it's a fantastic watch and very meandering in its nature. 2 hours spent on a story about a city office worker who goes to a rural town and recalls memories of her past, I can't think of anything else as SOL as that, but I guarantee you that movie has more to say in 2 hours than any 12+ episode of moe. Why? Because its not forced to be a simplistic cutesy whoopie stupid show for stupid people. Are there cute moments? Of course there are its Ghibli after all; but its not the basis of the entire show, its merely a by-product of making a great movie itself. Just like with desserts vs proper meals, you can have something that tastes great in the short moment you watch it, yet also provides so much more on a consistent and longer term basis.
To reiterate, its not that there isn't better or worse moe, its not that it is void of ANY meaning or depth at all, its that the actual moe part of moe is by design awful. In the same way the battleshounen parts of battleshounen are the worst moments, why in gods name would I ever care about watching a predetermined fight with no real stakes since I already know the end result? In fact watching fights scenes in general is a waste of my time unless there is animation close to something like Akira or Redline to keep me amazed at the workmanship of the animators. Just like I can say that - I can say why in gods name would I ever care about a bunch of cute succubi designed to cater around my lower instincts, talk about how they eat pastry or practise learning how to speak engrish with each other. Its a complete waste of my time, and utterly insulting to my intellect that it pretends I should find such a thing "entertaining" at all. >>36863
Yea, yea, yea I've heard this all before, if you were so confident in your epic internet debate "win" then you would just left it as it was many posts ago. In reality you doubt yourself and believe that you "lost", which is why you continue to try to prove yourself worthy to me. It just makes you look desperate for my approval, very pathetic behaviour overall. If you believe you lost, then just accept it and move on. This womanly parade where you hover around me for my attention is just pitiful at this point. All of your actions so far confirm that what I suspected about your character was in-fact the truth, real conversation with someone like yourself is just a waste of time.