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 No.42004

Any fellow fuck up who have the unrealistic dream of living in Japan?
I'm thinking about saving to try to go to a language school for at least 6 months while maybe doing a part time job if I can. (I found that there are a lot of manual jobs post proposed to gaijin with no prior work experience needed)

 No.42005

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>>42004
I wish you luck. you can already start learning japanese self-taught.
>about work
there's a lot of houtubers who worked in japan, so I'm pretty sure they can hire you.
I wish I lived in japan but it will never be real, I know it. so instead I wish I traveled there zt least once in my life

 No.42006

>>42005
>I wish you luck.
Sankyuu
Don't worry, I already know enough of nihongo to hold a bit of conversation or to read simple stuff. The only thing that is stopping me is my anxiety but I have nothing to lose since I have no reputation where I live. I'm basically a NEET who has never worked.
Also check out this video if you're a suck up for Japan like me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZXpzQNrmjA&t=1s&ab_channel=TRNGL
I don't know about you but it gives me intense nostalgia.

 No.42007

>>42006
yeah it is nostalgic. look at this https://youtu.be/dsSMlZRRrrw?si=_oNVFsMvsquvPO78
>I know some japanese
that's great, it means you have good base to start learning the language. do you want to study in japan or only work there?

 No.42012

>>42007
>https://youtu.be/dsSMlZRRrrw?si=_oNVFsMvsquvPO78
Nice footage. It's scary to think that all these people who were once young and full of life thriving in this big city, are now old boomers. Time sure flies FAST.

 No.42013

>>42004
I share this dream, but it's just that: a dream. I don't think I will ever be able to realize it, and worse yet, even if I could, it would end up a crushing disappointment.
It might be better to have Japan as an "always greener" part of the world than to know for a fact that no matter what, or where I am, I will never be happy.

 No.42017

>>42013
Yeah I get what you mean. I too imagine Japan as an overidealized place that more or less help me to cope with my depressing lonely world since I'm a teen but I don't think visiting or living some time in it will shatter the dream. Or at least if this dream is realized, it might not be as good as I imagined but at least I can tell myself I did it. Also it'll probably spawn new dreams that will be my new objectives when I come back visiting Japan. Anyway, I don't really think I'll ever stop being fond of the country.

 No.42018

Obligatory cynical post.

Why would Japan want you? I'm sure they'd let you in if you know the language and pass all the requirements for it but what would you do? Work at Lawson's forever? Do you think the grass will be that vibrant on the other side? Assuming you're first-world and not under any particular duress Japan has it's own first-world problems that would exchange almost 1:1 for whatever you're going through aside from living in an ugly society.

Struggling to find an apartment because you're a gaijin either because they don't trust you or don't like you because of that, where the other tenants may even dislike you as well and blame you for things you didn't do, will be a good strain for you to feel the isolation and distance in most people you will talk to. And then you settle into the doldrums of daily life and that's when the real disillusionment begins because that's all there is to it. Though wageslaving in Japan doesn't sound as bad as it does in say America or Mexico.

I also would like to live in Japan, not particularly though, as I like the country for the same reasons everyone else does but I'm aware of the score and that I will not be as happy as I thought I would be even knowing it's not some wonderland.

 No.42019

I'm fascinated by japan but cant imagine wanting to wageslave there.

 No.42020

>>42018
>>42018
>wageslaving in Japan doesn't sound as bad as it does in say America or Mexico.
why?

 No.42023

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>>42019
>>42020
Because your coworkers will give you the sideeye or passive-aggression, maybe even spread some catty rumors, instead of boorish and emotionally-infantile subhumans who may bully you or spread some catty rumors. And that the lower class in Japan are on par with simple blue collar people in western countries like Appalachia or Mecklenburg. It's still shit but not as miserable I presume, I just threw it out there, working some peanut job among Japanese and servicing the Japanese doesn't sound as bad as doing that in the rest of the west or where ever.

 No.42024

>>42023
>it is bad because people won't worship the ground you walk on. They might even have less than favorable opinions of you

why
care
?!?

 No.42025

>>42024
That's not what I said retard.

 No.42026

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>>42023
>shop has no security guard, no scanner, no locked shelves, no visible security cameras
>someone just left their bike outside
so this is the power of customer service

 No.42027

>>42026
this is the power of a civilizied country

 No.42029

>>42018
>Why would Japan want you?
What is Japan? The people? Everyone living inside Japan are different.
>what would you do? Work at Lawson's forever?
That or teaching languages.
>Struggling to find an apartment because you're a gaijin either because they don't trust you or don't like you because of that, where the other tenants may even dislike you as well and blame you for things you didn't do, will be a good strain for you to feel the isolation and distance in most people you will talk to. And then you settle into the doldrums of daily life and that's when the real disillusionment begins because that's all there is to it.
All of this is part and parcel of being a gaijin in Japan or more broadly being a stranger in a non-diverse country as someone of a different race.
I always did nothing in my life because of thinking about negative outcomes. If what you say is true then I maybe come back from Japan disillusioned and resume my OtakuNEET ways but I have to try at least once. . . I need to see by myself and experience the hardships or else I feel like I'll always be bitter.

 No.42031

>>42029
Japan is the people and government, as you will be among the people as part of the increasing amount of foreigners and the government who will test you to high standards if you will even be let in. And it is part and parcel, but can you take the blows of being the guy blamed for not disposing his trash properly or being accused of making too much noise or worse. And Japan has one of the most unfair legal systems in the world with a 99% conviction rate and forces you to fight tooth and nail to not get charged and sent prison, you can be detained for 23 days before you can make a phone call. These hypercapitalist societies have as much or almost as much mental illness as communist countries, lots of suicides and reclusive depression, bullying in schools that is harsher than you'd think, South Korea is even worse to the point where some North Koreans say their life was as miserable after a while or fled back.

I'm not telling you to not go, I understand and agree with your sentiment that you should go and see how it is for yourself, I think it's the only good first-world country left and what I like about it are pretty much the same reasons everyone else does, but it's not perfect and people who say they want to go think it's wonderland.

 No.42035

>>42031
NTA but most of the things you mention aren't that bad at all, like
>the government who will test you to high standards if you will even be let in
I wish more governments would do this, and the challenge of it is honestly a bit exciting.
>blamed for not disposing his trash properly
I think I'm able to learn the rules and do it properly.
>being accused of making too much noise
Impossible, I love silence.
> And Japan has one of the most unfair legal systems in the world with a 99% conviction rate and forces you to fight tooth and nail to not get charged and sent prison, you can be detained for 23 days before you can make a phone call.
I don't do crimes.
>lots of suicides and reclusive depression
It can't get worse for me in that regard.
>bullying in schools
I'm too old.

 No.42036

>>42035
>I wish more governments would do this
If you can pass it fine, I also like it but it's not cake walk to legally immigrate to Japan or Europe or somewhere that isn't shit.
>I think I'm able to learn the rules and do it properly.
>Impossible, I love silence.
>I don't do crimes.
My point is is that there's a fair chance you'll be blamed for something you didn't do despite diligently following the rules, legal or custom.
>It can't get worse for me in that regard.
>I'm too old.
These are problems for the Japanese. Even in paradise there is trouble.

 No.42045

>>42026
Like every country in the world except USA. I suppose a lot of things that weebs are obsessed with about japan are like that

 No.42048

>>42045
Try doing that in Mexico, Malmö, Moscow, Edinburgh, you name it, and see what happens. Japan and South Korea are the only civilized countries left and even that civility has come at a resentful cost.

 No.42060

Yoo fellow wizweebs, we could save up money and open a small business in Japan. I know quite a few people from my country who didn't have any diploma who successfully made their life in Japan that way.
If you're one guy who really still dream a lot about living in Japan, it's one thing to consider.

 No.42061

>>42060
>Yoo fellow wizweeb
Die
>we could save up money and open a small business in Japan.
Opening a small business in Japan isn't an option for unskilled, unreputable foreigners who don't speak any Japanese.

 No.42064

>>42061
that's pretty much the case everywhere. every fucking country wants poor hobos to know the language.



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