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 No.227140[View All]

Hello. I would like to talk, or rather tell you about certain suspicions, hunches and experiences I’ve had and I’m sure some of you as well. Similar themes have been written about across imageboards quite a few times so I know I’m not alone in this.

My background is that of an oldfag. I’ve seen it all. I started going on 4chan in 2006, and followed all the natural roads this implies. I’m in my thirties and I remember when 4chan had a /l/ board, when /co/ was a trial board shunned by basically everyone, when #34 porn was an obscure interest with very few good artists and when moot changed the frontpage to that web 2.0 bullshit 4chan has to this very day. I was also among the first right wingers who were such before it was cool, and I’ve seen /pol/ rise and fall. I was there when it mattered, but rather than saying these things out of masturbatory pleasure I wish to stress that I’ve acquired a set of observational skills which other genuine oldfags share. I’m aware you have no reason to trust my “credentials” but I hope you’ll read this in good faith. Much of this falls squarely in the fringe territory with a healthy dosage of /x/ and conspiracy theory up the ass. My goal by posting this seemingly jumbled mess is to… how can I put it? I want you to think, I want you to be aware, to digest all this. Because on a basic level I love you all. I feel like we’re all in this together, this dangerous game we did not choose to play and which I think is kicking into high gear. I do not hold many answers and don’t have all the pieces of the puzzle, but I AM aware there is a puzzle. Please feel free to go wild with all of this. Post it wherever you want, on whatever site you want or use. I am a nobody like you, and what matters to me is only that this reaches you and as many people as possible. At worst you’ll be entertained or kill time.

I tried to break this mess into points for brevity and because I touch upon many subjects. I imply more than I explain because if I go too deep this’ll turn into an even bigger wall of text.

The Internet feels empty and devoid of people. It is also devoid of content. Compared to the Internet of say 2007 (and beyond) the Internet of today is entirely sterile. There is nowhere to go and nothing to do, see, read or experience anymore. It all imploded into a handful of normalfag sites and these empty husks we inhabit. Yes, the Internet may seem gigantic, but it’s like a hot air balloon with nothing inside. Some of this is absolutely the fault of corporations and government entities. However! That doesn’t explain the following:

- I used to be in perpetual contact with a solid number of people across multiple sites. Across the years each and every one of them vanished without a trace. None of them were into /pol/ stuff or anything even remotely questionable or controversial. Yet, they all simply vanished in a puff of smoke, no matter the site, no matter the communication platform. There was no “goodbye” or explanation.

- I’ve seen the same threads, the same pics and the same replies reposted over and over across the years to the point of me seeing it as unremarkable. Simply put thread A would be posted in say 2015 and would get its share of replies or pics, on say /co/ or /a/. Then that very same thread, with the same text, pics, and replies would appear in 2016 and beyond. This often happens in the same year multiple times as well. Of course /pol/ is getting shilled and botposted to death, but why recycle a completely innocent /a/ thread? Who is doing this and why? Stuff like this won’t be noticed by your average poster perhaps, but I and other oldfags will inevitably notice it.

- I think I saw the same happen on other (non-imageboard) sites, but I can’t vouch for it as strongly as the above because of the time I spend there (not much). What I do vouch for is the news. I’ve seen news about this or that “new and unusual” or “shocking” event year after year after year. But it’s the same goddamn event, usually moons or asteroids.

- Roughly in 2016 or early 2017 4chan was filled with posts by someone or something. It wasn’t spam. The conversations with it were in real time, across multiple boards and multiple threads simultaneously. Its English was grammatically correct but odd (I’m not a native English speaker and am thus sensitive to its misuse), similar to how a Japanese person may use it. A sense of childlike curiosity and a childlike intellect emanated from these posts. It posed a LOT of questions, usually as if trying to understand the emotions of the posters it was talking to, as if unfamiliar with human emotions. Communicating with this “poster” was an odd experience, I could sense something was off but not malicious. I am absolutely certain this was an AI of some sorts. This “poster” was active only for about a week, and as far as I know nobody has ever mentioned or noticed this Anon. Its replies were always on topic, but the above mentioned childishness clashed with the apparent knowledge it possessed - it was the knowledge of an adult person, so it wasn’t a kid or something of the sort.

- Raptor Jesus, who went extinct for our sins. First it was this reptilian messiah, then foul bachelor frog, and then Pepe. Am I the only one who sees a clear evolution, a link? It’s as if this meme or entity or… whatever the fuck was on 4chan since day one, and has grown within it from the tiniest seed. Yet Raptor Jesus was fully just a joke, there was nothing serious or mystical about it (reminder: I was there). Remember that Ted guy with the right wing talk show, cca prior to 2010, whom 4chan ruined for the lulz? Remember Anonymous vs Scientology? Remember that fake bomb threat aka exploding yellow van? Compare that with what Anon did through /pol/, and the “terrorist” accusations thrown at Anon today, as well as the “reasons” why 8chan was taken down. Why does this too feel as if we were all trained, groomed, LED towards where we are now? Why and how did moot so utterly vanish into Google Inc. as an employee with very vague descriptions of what he actually does? On that note, do you remember the “other moot” who was often posted for the lulz? The one with the glasses who so often ran away with donations into Mexico? I do. Maybe that was the real moot, the real guy who used his mom’s credit card and was killed by someone, and an impostor we know as moot took his place.

- Innocent sexual perversion and the horrible reality it spawned. Anon is a pervert and always was one. I am into loli and feet for instance. Why is it that real life and the real world seem to emulate our sexual interests, with a time lag? “I wish to be the little succubus” became an actual thing that actually happens. Pedo activism is also gradually becoming accepted, as is virtually every fetish that was once either a joke or a fantasy of Anons. As said I’m a footfag. When I became aware of it few others were with me, now it’s as common as can be, with gigantic number of people who are into it, with huge mountains of hentai and #34 with it etc. Why does the real world bend over backwards to accommodate our weirdest fetishes? It’s as if everything is going “Look, look! I created this for you! I made it real!” in an effort to keep us within this world. The results of this are devastating to society, to people, to civilization. Simply put, trannies are a thing because Anon fapped to doujins of cute boys in dresses. Once it was an impossible fantasy, not to be taken too seriously. Now it’s grim reality. Again: it’s as if the real world is using imageboards as a template on what to be and what to do.

- Algorithm fiction. Do you like capeshit, Anon? How about other Hollywood stuff? Music perhaps? Have you noticed how sterile fiction has become? How it caters to the lowest common denominator and follows the same template over and over again? How music is just autotuned nigs and basic blandness? The writer’s strike never ended. Algorithms and computer programs are manufacturing modern fiction. No human being is behind these things. This is why anime looms so large - even a simple moe anime has heart because there’s actual people behind it, and we all intuitively feel this.

- Fake people. No, not NPC’s. Youtube people who talk about this or that, and quite possibly many politicians, actors and so forth may not actually exist. In fact I am sure of it. CGI and deep fakes are far more advanced than we are led to believe, and we can’t trust our eyes anymore. Many people, events, news and so on may be wholly fictional.

- The Internet on your smartphone is not the same internet as on your PC. Try it out for yourself. Go to a “popular” website with a lot of traffic. 4chan, faceshit, plebbit… any site with a massive userbase and fast content will do. Spend a few days randomly checking it out on your PC and your phone. You will soon notice that from time to time, at irregular intervals (as far as I’ve witnessed) the same site as seen on your phone will be wholly different than the version on your PC. Entire threads, numerous and well-replied, will be on one but not the other. The whole board will be different.

- My last suspicion is easier to take in. I have a feeling we’re in a strange kind of civil war. An internal one. I think Zuckerberg and other tech guys were all on 4chan as Anons at some point, maybe even now. They drew from the same well as us, but went in their own direction.

Thank you for your time. Feel free to insult me if you want. Old /co/mrades never die, they just grow thick skins.
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 No.237250

Daily reminder that this is an awesome thread.

 No.237272

>>227140
Ever considered that you're just getting old?
Your post is read like an oldfag bragging about wars and some backward shit, "back then we didn't have the lame internet but real fun like playing in the backwater and enjoying lead pollution"

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I don't think there's anything "/x/" about saying that there are AIs posting on /pol/.

I guarantee that there is a tech company that is using an AI on /pol/. It is probably just a analyzing what threads get the most replies and then tweaking things as it gets better. Hell, if I could get a contract to make an AI that produced 90% of the threads at any given time on /pol/, I would do it. It's probably not that hard. It's just getting the contract that would be difficult, but with all the left wing leaders in full panic mode I'm sure it would be easy to find some billionaire to sponsor it.

 No.237467

/pol/ is the King of boards.

People who are butthurt about/pol/ are usually trannies.

 No.237602

>>237467
poor bait but you should go back regardless

 No.237605

>>237466
You do not need any tech company. Plebeians are happy to copy/paste and captcha solve for free.

If a large percentage of the content one consumes is generated algorithmically one becomes the leaf node in the output function. The humans posting on the web are the extensions of the recommendation algorithms. See >>236781

 No.237607

>>237467
/pol/ is entry level just like /b/ and full of cucks, if that's something you take pride in then go ahead

 No.237688

>>227140
I don't want to be dismissive but most of the things you list aren't weird or suspicious. Other than bots I mean. It's widely accepted that bots make a large part of social media.

 No.237795

https://www.amazon.com/Surveillance-Valley-Military-History-Internet/dp/1610398025

Surveillance Valley: The Secret Military History of the Internet

I know nearly nothing about the internet, but this book says how internet never was free from the start with pretty convincing arguments. The sources seem to be solid and it shows how internet itself was born to control people in the first place instead of some apolitical techno-libertarian utopia.

As how all the internet companies like google were in bed with the feds since their beginnings, I don't think internet was ever really free. Google has been collecting search results and governments had been using the internet to monitor radical groups since the very start of the web, so I don't think internet was ever even "alive" in the sense of not being manipulated.

There never was a civil war, and the entire thing was always "controlled" by the feds.

 No.237796

>>236781
> Meanwhile… the rest of the populous sits mindlessly clicking away, a great social experiment was happening in the background - whilst AlphaGo was thrashing the grandmaster decades before anyone expected. This experiment wasn't even intentional, people were being pushed into algo valley's, the technical term is called over fitting. Train a bunch of things with certain attributes, provide them knowledge on their particular subject area, give them more, present antagonistic material on this area (that's got a higher CTR), keep it going, rinse and repeat, DO this for years. Result? Bubbles of proselytized cattle overfit into narrow world views. Which begs the question…

This was a feature, not a conspiracy.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=2ahUKEwi-uYGmlOLnAhWHoJ4KHdG_CrcQFjADegQIChAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwe.riseup.net%2Fassets%2F583212%2FSurveillance%2BValley%2BYasha%2BLevine.pdf&usg=AOvVaw179w7kXozzf7oQCnRDbNsC

>>231939
>>231941
People are also more feeding on youtube videos and internet articles instead of books which are at least not directly controlled by the state. A entire generation raised by what algorithm pushes would be an ideal cattle.

Apart from that, just look at how billions just let the state have ability to profile their political tendency to their sexual deviance with ease with social media. This is the greatest tool for the state that has ever been invented. The wildest dreams of the secret polices of 1940s had came true.

Allied forces might had stood victorious against totalitarians of Axis, but they had increasingly adopted their methods of control. This new phase of totalitarian capitalism is more efficient than any other system of control than before as it allows incredibly easy arrests. It's just baffling how internet made everything so much easier for control of humans. It's absolutely horrifying.

As individuals, we have no hope of truly being free from rest of surveillance as our daily lives from banking are now getting into the internet. But I think the only way to at least be somewhat free is to withdraw from the mind-rotting manipulating space of internet entirely. I've been using internet just for reading shit for multiple years just like a longer e-book, and I will probably turn all the pdf files and cool shit into paper to store instead of using this devil's machine.

It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but some conspiracy theories are correct. This is one case where reality is worse than conspiracy. In fact, it's obvious to anyone with a critical mind without any conspiracy theorist's ramblings needed. This timeline is one of the most retarded of all timelines that could have been.

 No.237797

>>237796
Obviously the american government and the relatively liberal powers of europe aren't hoarding people into prisons, but the fact that they could do that anytime if the situation gets volatile is what's really scary. Even Nazi Germany or Stalinist USSR won't be able to control and profile people like this. It's such a tragedy that we have to live through this madness. This damned class civilization is a monstrosity that should have died 100 years ago.

>>228879
There was never anonymity or free internet. The whole project was funded by the state and surveillance remained a feature since the earliest times of the web. China is also using the same thing as the west except that they merely have the need to use it against their relatively rebellious population that is constantly striking.

If western governments were faced onto a significant opposition, they would do they same thing as the chinese. It's just matter of tactics for the state. Americans and europeans who applaud their nations for internet freedom are even more of cattles than Chinese are as at least Chinese people blatantly know that they are getting controlled.

>the internet already was controlled by kikes, and chinks copied them. you can no more criticize china than israel and have your account last a month thereafter. they use many tricks, and play upon the mods like a virtuoso. anti kike and anti chink positions are thus impossible to find in persistent accounts.


anti chinese posts were on the top of every major internet websites during hong kong protests.

 No.237798

>>237795
I made myself sound like a idiot who is rambling after he read a single book about a certain topic, but this book is quite legit. The general reception of this book has been positive among people who were involved with it and the most criticisms are also about "he is only targeting America" or something like that. But even if this book was somehow false and internet was a totally a free space with zero state interference, the result of state being able to just see and profile users is obvious. Majority of developed world uses social media for most communications. Here's section where author responds to criticisms of this book.

https://surveillancevalley.com/blog

 No.237800

>>237798
Ive read it and its quite good indeed. ‘The age of surveillance capitalism’ is also a good book on the subject

>The sources seem to be solid and it shows how internet itself was born to control people in the first place instead of some apolitical techno-libertarian utopia.

Exactly. I cringe when I see people talking about how the internet (or computer technology in general really) used to be a place of freedom or that it can be reclaimed as such with the proper tools and good intentions or nonsense like that.

 No.237803

I've noticed just about all of this over recent years, it happened very slowly as the internet slowly got filled with more things than people. I stopped paying attention to 4chan around late 2012 and it just keeps getting worse, it's almost as if it's an entirely fake website now. A weird internet museum with a bunch of randomly generated posts popping up every minute of every day. This chan besides the 2 big one's is an anomaly in human site traffic but I think this more due to just a chan pooling effect because the real humans on the internet don't really have much left outside of wandering the wasteland of what used to be enjoying the scraps. I think you found something interesting on anime too, it feels more real than any other content and is the only content left I actually feel an immersion in because of this vibrant human component it still has behind it. The closest I feel otherwise is finding a youtube channel I enjoy for a while as I sit around in my room.

 No.237833

>>237800
It's also absurd to see people not realizing how centralized the internet is by the corporations and the governments. People seem to have an impression that internet is some sort of a web when it's closer to a centralized system that uses tons of electricity for it to run.

 No.242128

bump

 No.242141

>>227146
>file deleted
So what was it?

 No.242143

>>227162
>that pathetic attempt at humour
Either op is right and you are indeed ai or you are just fake human.

 No.242161

I don't really know about the rest but I agree that the internet of today feels very sterile and boring, but maybe its just that there are too many normies on it now and drowning anything interesting or unique out, and normies are known most of all for their amazing ability to be basically copy each other and all be exactly the same, its why they are 'normal' because they follow the same standards and fit in, the internet used to be for weirdos first

 No.242231

>>227140

I think a major aspect of this alleged 'soul deadening' of the internet might be just a result of globalisation and the internet itself changing society, in combination with subjective factors of the individual.

So to touch on the globalisation\internet aspect - in the 90's when the internet was emerging, you had entire nations essentially compartmentalised off from one another. Yes, international communication and travel were already massively advanced - you can read about international political movements taking off way back in the late 19th century, etc. But by the 1990's, while the world was very globalised, there were still quite unique national cultures, and various subcultures both internationally and within nations. You had people with very unique interests, people spent more time alone and disconnected from others, so had more chance to 'individuate'. Now as the internet emerged, there was a sort of 'flourishing' of ideas and creativity, as unique individuals and ideas clashed and interacted, so those of us who were there to experience this emergence got to see something very rare and amazing, and that's partly why many of us were more drawn to the online world than everyday reality at the time. The problem is that just as there was this flourishing, there was also synthesis taking place, certain ideas, subcultures, etc were gradually being broken down. Just a simple example - as I remember it, in the 90's if you watched TV, you'd see that people living in different countries were usually dressed in quite different ways, it's hard for me to describe this in detail but you could definitely see strong variations in style in different countries, even with things like business attire. As globalisation continued and as the internet allowed us to see one another in more detail, we were all gradually adjusting our dress and clothing styles. Think about the "fedora" meme - this is a subset of people I'm aware of, despite not living in the US and never having met someone who dressed like that, and the meme itself is about criticising that style and encouraging a type of conformity. Just think of this example when it comes to other areas of life. Another thing I can think of is how the world seemed vastly more mysterious in the 90's - I think that's why shows like The X-Files, and Unsolved Mysteries etc had so much success, it was entirely possible for people to suggest that alien kidnappings, UFO abductions, satanic cults etc were thriving just over the edge of the horizon. Or how during the 2010's I saw a massive evolution in online consciousness about succubi and feminism. You could actually see large numbers of people becoming redpilled to some degree, shifting their perception of values, unlearning old fake ideas like "succubi are more traditional in countries like Japan or Russia!". This evolution sometimes upset me, for example I loved the more MRA-tier mentality, but apparently once tumblr and mainstream feminists started using that term as a label of offence, men were terrified to identify with it. Anyway I think these examples give you an idea of the process - we are all becoming more 'tied in' to a collective standardisation of consciousness, we all spent less time alone or in subcultures. So in many ways the world can seem to be becoming less interesting, but I don't think this is entirely a bad thing - it's also possible that we're seeing one another in greater detail, less afraid of one another, etc.

On the individual level, there are other factors to consider. One thing I think is worth noting is that there have probably never before been so many people regularly fapping to porn, deadening their dopamine levels - I believe dopamine levels are VERY much connected with intellectual curiosity and thoughtfulness; I know that when I've been having a good nofap streak that I will start to become deeply curious and absorbed in questions and ideas I'd usually neglect. So if I'm right about this affecting individual consciousness, imagine the loss of creativity and thoughtfulness collectively. I also feel like people are more wealthy these days. In 2010 if I went on 4chan and someone posted a battlestation or bedroom photo, they were often old, messy rooms filled with random shit, sometimes very interesting shit. It gave me the sense that there were plenty of unique and interesting people out there. If you see a battlestation or bedroom photo today - they often don't look too different to what would have one been considered a 'display home' or something you'd see in an advertisement for a home product. I'm sure a big part of that is demographic shift online towards more normies, but I think the greater average wealth in the world is also altering us, making us less individual. There are also more people working from home than ever before - does someone who has the mentality capable of serving a corporation or government or something from their home lend well towards intellectual curiosity or creativity? I think generally no. This is something that annoys me a lot about modern imageboard culture - more affluent kids who don't have a real fucking problem in their life, so what interesting things would they have to say? This leads to the whole 'irony' thing, I think a major reason for the growth of 'irony' culture on imageboards is this increased affluence. I miss the days of connecting with other struggling anons who genuinely hated their situations, rather than people who are so disconnected from struggle that no idea really means anything to them - it's just masturbation.

 No.242233

>>242231
The main thing that killed the soul of the internet was gentrification of normalfags. Prior to the era of social media, most of the people who spent a significant amount of time on the internet were male social outcasts, who tend to be more individualistic. Then social media happened, normalfags started spending much of their free time on the internet, became the majority and the social outcasts who once had a place they could be themselves, were shamed and pushed out or caved into pressure to assimilate.
>Think about the "fedora" meme - this is a subset of people I'm aware of, despite not living in the US and never having met someone who dressed like that
I lived in America for all my life and I never met anyone who dressed like that either, and I'm in my mid 30s. I've seen people wearing fedoras but they were ironically enough, the more "trendy" and flamboyant types, which is the opposite of the whole neckbeard fedora meme.
The entire meme was always just a made up boogeyman. A strawman used to represent anyone who was MRA-like, libertarian, right of center, non-conformist, against political correctness, anti-sjw etc. It was a pretty effective meme too because so many people who fell under the wide umbrella of positions that were associated with the fedora neckbeard boogeyman became afraid of voicing their opinion out of fear of being labeled such. Of course these days the catch-all term for anyone guilty of such wrong-think is in-cel.
Lots of other buzzwords exist to encourage conformity, "autist" "cringe" and "schizo" to name a few, but none have been anywhere near as successful and widely used as the neckbeard fedora meme or "in-cel".

Great post overall though. 9/10. Had to take a point off for the nofap shilling though.

 No.242235

>>242233

Yeah, I agree with everything you said about the fedora thing, I guess it just came to mind easily. I meant to use it simply as an example of something most of us would be aware of which influences one particular aspect of life - fashion and clothing. The internet opened up a lot in terms of allowing people to learn about dress and fashion, compare with others' opinions, select and buy clothes - which the individual would experience as an 'expansion of choice', but then over time to some degree I feel like it may have also increased conformity or 'homogenised' taste when it comes to dress.

With the nofap shilling I was more trying to get at the point that our experience of the deadening of the internet might be TO SOME EXTENT a subjective thing, and this subjective experience is shaped by many factors. One aspect of this I forgot to mention is that over time as you experience imageboard culture, your experience shapes your view. So you might start off and be overawed by the seeming anarchy and variety of ideas you encounter at first (OP mentioned /pol/), but then over time you come to get a better grasp of what's going on - 'Oh that anon genuinely believes that shit, oh that anon is a LARPer, oh that anon is just repeating what he's heard here', and so the seeming diversity of ideas evaporates and you end up categorising - rightly or wrongly - which creates lack of interest. Oh and the fact that OP refers to /pol/ without having to say more says a lot about how consolidated things are.

I do agree the normification process you mention is a huge factor, though.

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>>236781
No, overfitting is when a machine learning algorithm predicts well on the training data set, but fails to generalize for the testing set / practical application.

 No.242271

>>242231
People, even outsiders, seem much more apprehensive about expressing themselves online now

 No.242272

>>242271
who wouldn't be? Everyone now is baiting you, or trolling you, or getting ready to screencap your post and put it up on kiwifarms or reddit.

 No.242300

>>242272
True, sincerity is a thing of the past in many parts and with so many things being tied to your irl identity it's no wonder.

 No.242311

>>242300
And if a single offensive post or controversial opinion is tied to your real life identity, you are fucked for life. If a google search for your name brings up anything offensive you said then no one will ever even consider hiring you for anything more than minimum wage. It doesn't even matter how long ago you said it or how old you were at the time.

Another issue is that truly controversial opinions are pretty much banned on 99% of sites. So even if you take all of the necessary precautions to avoid getting doxed, you're just wasting your time because your post will get deleted likely within minutes and you'll probably get banned. Everyone with a truly controversial opinion is automatically a "troll" "alt-right" "i.ncel" "edgelord" or some other boogeyman that needs to be banned as quickly as possible.
Power tripping mods always existed but 15+ years ago they were a minority. Many mods were chill and libertarian minded. Now 90% of mods are neurotic, pretentious control freaks who are determined to remove wrong-think like their lives depend on it.

Then when you factor in mainstream media putting tremendous pressure on companies to increase censorship, deplatforming in general, and a growing trend of sites prescreening posts and/or using bots to filter out wrong-think, you get the draconian SJW-dominated internet of today.

 No.244224

>>227140
This all makes a lot of sense. When I post on seemingly dead or at least unpopular Chans, like this one, sometimes I get a lot (you)s by the end of the day, which is really weird since pretty much every other thread I see is only getting 1 response every other day. It just might all be filler.

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>>227266
You ever watch Ghost in the Shell? There's a great term that arose from one the series called 'stand alone complex'. That's basically what's happening. People have been influenced, and influence others, to propagate this stuff. It's nothing so concentrated as a conspiracy, but it is a form of (indirect) collusion. The goals of those involved aren't precisely the same but they are similar, the essential premise is to influence others, these posts exist to either demoralize others or to derail what they prefer to discuss. I expect all types do it, those who experience gratification from shaming and demeaning themselves, those who just want to be disruptive, those who think it's some kind of political weapon, actual blacks 'retaliating' against western society, etc… I once read a pretty good thread about this where the guy admitted he was spreading this shit because was a chronic masturbator and could only get erections from racial cuck porn anymore, so his goal was to get people to end up like he did by constantly suggesting this is reality. He knew most people ignored it but was delighted to know some small percentage would be affected.

It's fucking strange and disgusting.

>>244231

You sound like you're into it, your post is contributory, I mean hell you had that saved. Unfortunately it's very easy to check if your claims are true, you can look up the most popular NSFW reddits for example and you can clearly see cuck or IR porn is not popular. Similarly dating statistics corroborate people dislike interracial dating, and even porn website statistics suggest more mundane fetishes like "Asians" are the most popular.

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>>227285
>>227310
Pornography is a slippery slope. When you consider the logistics involved it really becomes obvious that this fetishism is an inevitable development. It's not an accident that a society like Japan, where so many men are feminized (as in they do not do masculine things) and remain virgins (as in they do not experience sexual psychological maturity like 99% of humanity historically do) produces such a ludicrous amount of NTR and trap porn. And it follows that people on 4chan who like anime get exposed to it due to inhabiting similar circles. Combine this with other forces in the west like leftist guilt and actual state sponsored miscegenation PR (which hilariously exists) ALL on top of access to the internet and unfathomable amounts of images and video and nudity and degeneracy which 99.9% of humanity never even came close to knowing…obviously people are going to say and do some fucked up things they probably never intended or entertained as possible before they were brainwashed.

I don't believe in Jewish conspiracies but it's hilarious how true to life some of these accusations a typical poltard might contrive are.

 No.244246

>>244239
I agree with a lot of "pol" stuff but I think the "ideology" is heading in a very bad direction, specifically this new "No fun allowed!" shit.
>Masturbation bad
>Porn bad
>Buying things you like bad
>Technology bad

Part of what initially drove people to pol type stuff was SJWs pushing for censorship, getting things banned, shaming male sexuality, telling them how to live their lives and trying to make them feel guilty for everything. Now the pol types are doing the same shit, albeit with much less success. I used to believe horseshoe theory was just a meme but it's proving to be more and more accurate.

I like anime succubi with big tits. Because of that alone, the modern left would call me a misogynistic in-cel neckbeard manbaby who objectifies succubi and now the new right would call me a degenerate coomer soy boy consoomer.

And just like the left has been going down a purity spiral, so have the pol types. First it was too much masturbation is bad, then porn was bad, then any masturbation was bad, then porn should be banned, then buying products for entertainment is bad, now most recently they're saying technology in general is bad. I guess their ideal society would be like the Amish but with le epic postironic memes with wojak variations that only exist to be strawmen. Then again most if not all of them are hypocrite larpers who indulge in the same shit they smugly cast judgment onto others for but that's besides the point.

I also don't buy their newly found Christianity, which is clearly superficial and reactionary as it only comes up when they're complaining about others.

 No.244263

>>244246
I think there's meant to be a balance of sorts. Liking big tit anime succubi is fine but jerking off practically 24x7 and spending countless resources on this desire would arguably be excessive and "coomer/consoomer"ish.

But some do get carried away with memes and nofap shit it seems.

 No.244265

>>227266
>While we're on the topic of strange internet phenomena, does anyone have any explanation for the sudden flood of posts about succubi getting "blacked" and "bbc"?

Thank God Wizchan is smarter than most places and doesn't drink the koolaid. As others have mentioned it is just being pushed by the mainstream media and /pol. The average black guy isn't thinking he'd sure love some white poon that'll get him lynched. Statistically, they aren't that common. Okcupid data and others show the highest interracial dating is Asian succubi and white guys. But even then as other wizzies said most don't do interracial dating.

 No.244272

someone is selling stickers that say "I LOVE BBC," the things are plastered all over my city

 No.244273

>>244265
It's more common than you think. Online dating is for people who aren't super alpha. Minorities are usually way more extroverted so they can get the white poon in clubs and shit. White guys who go on online dating sites are typically fairly meek in comparison and seem boring.

There are probably more white succubi who do one night stands with black men than you think. They just settle down after that with bobbies.

As a wizard, I don't really give a fuck since it doesn't matter if it's Chad or a big black guy mogging me.

 No.244275

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>>244265
Unless you're a self abusing fetishist or have never spoken to a succubus in real life before the whole concept is laughable. I've 4 sisters, and we live in an east coast liberal shithole. I've had to deal with them and their female friends all my life, I constantly heard how gross blacks and weirdly enough even asians are from them. It could just be a casual conversation but they'd say something like this gross X guy tried to talk to me, etc… Some of said friends btw were asian or even pretty dark mutts. Over the years half of them had spics and arabs for boyfriends though, so I don't really get it. My eldest sister married a filthy Albanian, he looks white but he's Muslim and more than half an ape. Anyway, point is you walk outside and interracial couples are rare - but of course if you take a look at something like Netflix (it's my sisters) and they're fucking everywhere. I really don't get it.

Pic mostly related but reminded me of this thread.

 No.244276

>>244275
People in show business experiment a lot more with other people in show business. TV isn't meant to resemble the average person because that's pretty boring. There's a decent percentage of black men married to non-black succubi. It's by no means a majority, but it does happen.

In the examples you cite, the main difference would seem to be that a black men will approach even if they have a really low chance with a succubus. Most ugly white guys aren't as aggressive hitting on succubi.

 No.244277

>>244276
That's true, but marriage is an even stranger thing than dating. Black female/white male marriages seem to last much longer, but black male/white female marriage seems more common, why that is despite the significant difference in success rates is very strange imo. But even all together it's less than .5% of all marriages with a white person. At least, all of this is if wikipedia is to be believed.

I thought TV and movies were meant to be about representing the under represented, but it's crazy how constantly miscegenation is plastered over certain platforms like Netflix, it's not at all proportional to real life. Hell, just by population at all, there's way too many blacks in popular media and a hilariously small amount of asian people relative to their population size. It seems clear that there's an ulterior motive at play.

 No.244278

>>244277
>I thought TV and movies were meant to be about representing the under represented, but it's crazy how constantly miscegenation is plastered over certain platforms like Netflix, it's not at all proportional to real life.

Oh that's just another tactic to whiten the population. They did that shit in Brazil too, encouraging/forcing (rape) miscegenation to lower the black population. Ugh, this thread is turning into /pol.

>Hell, just by population at all, there's way too many blacks in popular media and a hilariously small amount of asian people relative to their population size It seems clear that there's an ulterior motive at play.


"Too many blacks." Oof. There really aren't THAT MANY as compared to white shows, but they are overrepresented compared to other minorities. The "ulterior" motive isn't as juicy as your thinking. It's simply when people complain about diversity Hollyweird throws in a token, typically useless, black character. Moreover, there is that stereotype of certain parts of white society loving "schucking and jivin" black entertainers. Oprah's popularity among suburban white liberal succubi,for example, comes from the mammy stereotype. Latinos are now at least 18% of the population, with Asians at approx 6%. It is more surprising that Latinos aren't more pervasive especially with how much liberal elites keep pushing illegal immigration for cheap labor.

 No.244279

>>244278
>Ugh.
>Oof.
>/pol
Reminder: "You must be a male virgin and at least 18 years old to use this website."

 No.244280

>>244278
>Oh that's just another tactic to whiten the population
I didn't know our jewish media masters were so pro-white

 No.244287

>>227311
I'm not that guy, but I think it's like some smokers tell other people not to smoke.
Sometimes people know their behavior is bad/weird/unhealthy (and still do it anyway because of addiction, lack of motivation to stop etc.) and it's exactly why they don't want to see it promoted in society.

 No.244290

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>>244263
>But some do get carried away with memes and nofap shit it seems.
That's the problem. I'm willing to give nofap the benefit of the doubt and say it probably started off as a way to help people who legitimately have a porn and masturbation addiction, but they lost the plot a long time ago. Now it has devolved into an autistic pseudoscientific cult that calls anyone who masturbates or watches porn a coomer no matter how infrequently they do it and blame porn and masturbation for all of the problems in the world. Now a lot of them are going full totalitarian and want the government to imprison everyone who watches porn. Pic related.

 No.244299

>>228475
Do you care about anything, or are you just a faggot?

 No.244309

>>244299
oh that juicy nazi butthurt

 No.244372

>>234635
Lovely image, saved

 No.244383

>>244290
No, it really just started as a challenge before all that shit happened.


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