No.227140[Last 50 Posts]
Hello. I would like to talk, or rather tell you about certain suspicions, hunches and experiences I’ve had and I’m sure some of you as well. Similar themes have been written about across imageboards quite a few times so I know I’m not alone in this.
My background is that of an oldfag. I’ve seen it all. I started going on 4chan in 2006, and followed all the natural roads this implies. I’m in my thirties and I remember when 4chan had a /l/ board, when /co/ was a trial board shunned by basically everyone, when #34 porn was an obscure interest with very few good artists and when moot changed the frontpage to that web 2.0 bullshit 4chan has to this very day. I was also among the first right wingers who were such before it was cool, and I’ve seen /pol/ rise and fall. I was there when it mattered, but rather than saying these things out of masturbatory pleasure I wish to stress that I’ve acquired a set of observational skills which other genuine oldfags share. I’m aware you have no reason to trust my “credentials” but I hope you’ll read this in good faith. Much of this falls squarely in the fringe territory with a healthy dosage of /x/ and conspiracy theory up the ass. My goal by posting this seemingly jumbled mess is to… how can I put it? I want you to think, I want you to be aware, to digest all this. Because on a basic level I love you all. I feel like we’re all in this together, this dangerous game we did not choose to play and which I think is kicking into high gear. I do not hold many answers and don’t have all the pieces of the puzzle, but I AM aware there is a puzzle. Please feel free to go wild with all of this. Post it wherever you want, on whatever site you want or use. I am a nobody like you, and what matters to me is only that this reaches you and as many people as possible. At worst you’ll be entertained or kill time.
I tried to break this mess into points for brevity and because I touch upon many subjects. I imply more than I explain because if I go too deep this’ll turn into an even bigger wall of text.
The Internet feels empty and devoid of people. It is also devoid of content. Compared to the Internet of say 2007 (and beyond) the Internet of today is entirely sterile. There is nowhere to go and nothing to do, see, read or experience anymore. It all imploded into a handful of normalfag sites and these empty husks we inhabit. Yes, the Internet may seem gigantic, but it’s like a hot air balloon with nothing inside. Some of this is absolutely the fault of corporations and government entities. However! That doesn’t explain the following:
- I used to be in perpetual contact with a solid number of people across multiple sites. Across the years each and every one of them vanished without a trace. None of them were into /pol/ stuff or anything even remotely questionable or controversial. Yet, they all simply vanished in a puff of smoke, no matter the site, no matter the communication platform. There was no “goodbye” or explanation.
- I’ve seen the same threads, the same pics and the same replies reposted over and over across the years to the point of me seeing it as unremarkable. Simply put thread A would be posted in say 2015 and would get its share of replies or pics, on say /co/ or /a/. Then that very same thread, with the same text, pics, and replies would appear in 2016 and beyond. This often happens in the same year multiple times as well. Of course /pol/ is getting shilled and botposted to death, but why recycle a completely innocent /a/ thread? Who is doing this and why? Stuff like this won’t be noticed by your average poster perhaps, but I and other oldfags will inevitably notice it.
- I think I saw the same happen on other (non-imageboard) sites, but I can’t vouch for it as strongly as the above because of the time I spend there (not much). What I do vouch for is the news. I’ve seen news about this or that “new and unusual” or “shocking” event year after year after year. But it’s the same goddamn event, usually moons or asteroids.
- Roughly in 2016 or early 2017 4chan was filled with posts by someone or something. It wasn’t spam. The conversations with it were in real time, across multiple boards and multiple threads simultaneously. Its English was grammatically correct but odd (I’m not a native English speaker and am thus sensitive to its misuse), similar to how a Japanese person may use it. A sense of childlike curiosity and a childlike intellect emanated from these posts. It posed a LOT of questions, usually as if trying to understand the emotions of the posters it was talking to, as if unfamiliar with human emotions. Communicating with this “poster” was an odd experience, I could sense something was off but not malicious. I am absolutely certain this was an AI of some sorts. This “poster” was active only for about a week, and as far as I know nobody has ever mentioned or noticed this Anon. Its replies were always on topic, but the above mentioned childishness clashed with the apparent knowledge it possessed - it was the knowledge of an adult person, so it wasn’t a kid or something of the sort.
- Raptor Jesus, who went extinct for our sins. First it was this reptilian messiah, then foul bachelor frog, and then Pepe. Am I the only one who sees a clear evolution, a link? It’s as if this meme or entity or… whatever the fuck was on 4chan since day one, and has grown within it from the tiniest seed. Yet Raptor Jesus was fully just a joke, there was nothing serious or mystical about it (reminder: I was there). Remember that Ted guy with the right wing talk show, cca prior to 2010, whom 4chan ruined for the lulz? Remember Anonymous vs Scientology? Remember that fake bomb threat aka exploding yellow van? Compare that with what Anon did through /pol/, and the “terrorist” accusations thrown at Anon today, as well as the “reasons” why 8chan was taken down. Why does this too feel as if we were all trained, groomed, LED towards where we are now? Why and how did moot so utterly vanish into Google Inc. as an employee with very vague descriptions of what he actually does? On that note, do you remember the “other moot” who was often posted for the lulz? The one with the glasses who so often ran away with donations into Mexico? I do. Maybe that was the real moot, the real guy who used his mom’s credit card and was killed by someone, and an impostor we know as moot took his place.
- Innocent sexual perversion and the horrible reality it spawned. Anon is a pervert and always was one. I am into loli and feet for instance. Why is it that real life and the real world seem to emulate our sexual interests, with a time lag? “I wish to be the little succubus” became an actual thing that actually happens. Pedo activism is also gradually becoming accepted, as is virtually every fetish that was once either a joke or a fantasy of Anons. As said I’m a footfag. When I became aware of it few others were with me, now it’s as common as can be, with gigantic number of people who are into it, with huge mountains of hentai and #34 with it etc. Why does the real world bend over backwards to accommodate our weirdest fetishes? It’s as if everything is going “Look, look! I created this for you! I made it real!” in an effort to keep us within this world. The results of this are devastating to society, to people, to civilization. Simply put, trannies are a thing because Anon fapped to doujins of cute boys in dresses. Once it was an impossible fantasy, not to be taken too seriously. Now it’s grim reality. Again: it’s as if the real world is using imageboards as a template on what to be and what to do.
- Algorithm fiction. Do you like capeshit, Anon? How about other Hollywood stuff? Music perhaps? Have you noticed how sterile fiction has become? How it caters to the lowest common denominator and follows the same template over and over again? How music is just autotuned nigs and basic blandness? The writer’s strike never ended. Algorithms and computer programs are manufacturing modern fiction. No human being is behind these things. This is why anime looms so large - even a simple moe anime has heart because there’s actual people behind it, and we all intuitively feel this.
- Fake people. No, not NPC’s. Youtube people who talk about this or that, and quite possibly many politicians, actors and so forth may not actually exist. In fact I am sure of it. CGI and deep fakes are far more advanced than we are led to believe, and we can’t trust our eyes anymore. Many people, events, news and so on may be wholly fictional.
- The Internet on your smartphone is not the same internet as on your PC. Try it out for yourself. Go to a “popular” website with a lot of traffic. 4chan, faceshit, plebbit… any site with a massive userbase and fast content will do. Spend a few days randomly checking it out on your PC and your phone. You will soon notice that from time to time, at irregular intervals (as far as I’ve witnessed) the same site as seen on your phone will be wholly different than the version on your PC. Entire threads, numerous and well-replied, will be on one but not the other. The whole board will be different.
- My last suspicion is easier to take in. I have a feeling we’re in a strange kind of civil war. An internal one. I think Zuckerberg and other tech guys were all on 4chan as Anons at some point, maybe even now. They drew from the same well as us, but went in their own direction.
Thank you for your time. Feel free to insult me if you want. Old /co/mrades never die, they just grow thick skins.
please continue I am interested
>>227142>People are naturally repetitive and hive-minded.
*organic portals are naturally repetitive and hive-minded
>>227140>people disappearing.>Repeating threads with exact same text/images year-by-year>Same news events
I've noticed the same.
>Roughly in 2016 or early 2017… I am absolutely certain this was an AI of some sorts
Now you're thinking where I am too, anon. Here's the timeline as best I can see it:
2004: DARPA's Lifelog project was "cancelled." Facebook came into being soon after.
2004-2012: NSA picked up DARPA's project under the "Total Informational Awareness" project. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/whos-watching-the-nsa-watchers.html
2012: Smith-Mundt Modernization Act gives the U.S. government full legal authority to use propaganda against its own populace. Undoing rules put into place after Operation Mockingbird's discovery and the Church Committee. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/whos-watching-the-nsa-watchers.html
2012-2016: Shittons of DARPA/NSA contracts were given to Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc..
2016: Leaked memos dating back to 2016 (found in 2018) of Google's Selfish Ledger project. https://invidio.us/watch?v=LUSZfEBTwRc
2016: Google released a bunch of neural-linguistic machine learning programs in 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Neural_Machine_Translation
2017: deepfake leaks start to become released.
2018: confirmed that for decades now, Reddit/Youtube/etc. vote and view counts are fake and completely manipulated. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/how-much-of-the-internet-is-fake.html
I think it's entirely obvious what I'm subtly suggesting here given this setup, but allow me to try to succinctly state my thesis here: the U.S. government is engaging in an artificial intelligence powered gaslighting of the entire world population
If China with its social credit score is recreating Psycho Pass, then the U.S. government is perfectly recreating Metal Gear Solid 2.
And the solution? Best I've been able to find it is to avoid algorithmically generating content. Search engines can not be trusted. Anything with a view count or like count can not be trusted. Things that take time to make, by humans, are about the only things. This means:
- Small, individual websites.
- Mailing lists.
In other words, if it looks like early 90s internet, then you have a better chance that you aren't undergoing behavioral modification by AI powered by government intelligence agencies.
The AI resistance movement is out there, anons. But we're underground. You'll have to find us, or help create it yourself if you can't.
This sounds quite plausible and it could explain all the weird things that have been happening in the internet for last couple years
what things? summarize for me if you can
it was tldr for me, and all that 4chan shit is gibberish, I've never been there
your reading comprehension skill is trash. His post is less than 3 pages in a book.
*His post is also less than 3 pages of writing in total
They believe one or more Artificial intelligence already exist, they say is not Intelligence agents and shills because it all feels alien otherworldly and just plain weird, and is mos likely not direct conversation but more like influences and contents being generated by an inhuman intelligence or several ones who are manipulating the internet and probably all humanity without the knowledge of the general population.
There aren't fake users on sites and you don't have to worry about us.
its like we're in Matrix or something
Lol, you don't even know how to use that term. One cannot comprehend or miscomprehend something that he hasn't even read
You're like everyone else nowadays who lob that "reading comprehension" line at others. You think it's some broad brush criticism rather than a very specific one, which is ironic as fuck as it actually demonstrates that your own reading comprehension is trash. Even as you typed those words you didn't comprehend what they mean. Jesus.
I remember noticing this too. There was even a conspiracy years ago that most 4chad posts weren't even made by humans.
Claiming that three pages of text is "too long" definitely does indicate poor reading skills.
brevity is the soul of wit.
So you're only capable of reading 'witty' things? Yes, that's poor reading comprehension skills.
I'm not that same wiz. I'm saying that refusing to read something because it looks like a big mess doesn't make one a poor reader.
Being more than a paragraph long doesn't make something a "mess".
I never said it was. To quote him>all that 4chan shit is gibberish
Bots are definitely being used to write posts, blogs and news articles. It's not some genius AI taking over, it's a dumb chat bot that builds up responses to reference.
While we're on the topic of strange internet phenomena, does anyone have any explanation for the sudden flood of posts about succubi getting "blacked" and "bbc"?
It started about two or three years ago and happened in a very sudden, non-organic way. Most of these posts have the same writing style, and are obviously intended to be as antagonistic as possible. Many of these posts are completely off-topic, posted in threads that have nothing to do with sex, succubi, race, or penises, or are only vaguely on topic before abruptly transitioning into talking about "bbc" or succubi getting "blacked".
The consistent writing style almost makes it seem like this is all the act of a single person with a maniacal devotion to doing this. However it's unlikely that such a person could exist as no one could possibly have the time to make this many posts, on so many platforms. I'm reasonably certain that a large number of these posts are bots, but who would make such a bot, and why?
A combination of liberal pushing of black male white female couples, and insecure /pol/faggots taking it to heart and either screeching about it everywhere or genuinely developing a fetish for it.
Also nice gif.
>>227266>does anyone have any explanation
Part of it is people with the fetish who for whatever reason can't shut up about it, and part of it is a meme that got way out of hand. >>227267
On the political end of things, I wouldn't be suprised if part of it was lefties attacking ghost again.
Hypothosis, some lefties spam it because they think that it makes the abundant and omnipresent neo-nazi white supremacist angry. Not realizing that such people are actually few in number, with most of the ones that do exist being able to ignore shitposting and take jokes. Making such a campaign just annoying but pointless.
Though to be honist I still think it is more likely fetishist with low impulse control, memers that spammed it to the point that it isn't amusing anymore.
You saw the same thing with furry about 10 or so years ago, and the beginnings of it with incest stuff about 2 or so years ago.
>>227271>the majority of people on 4chan now are over 64 years old
wow, the more you know
I really wish I didn't read that image.
I don't say this lightly because it is a bit over used, but I really did cringe pretty hard and involuntarily moaned no.
I remember seeing that screencap posted years ago and laughing my ass off. It's still funny.
The 2016 election fucked imageboards so hard.
Nothing happens by chance. Like /r9k/ is full of trannies pushing shit, you also have people like that spamming nigger shit too. It's the same way feet stuff is shoved in everything now. Degenerates found a new gimmick to jerk off to while others like to push it because it upsets others.
>Repeating threads, even innocent ones
>Raptor Jesus and meme progression
>Real life mirroring online perversion
That last one is easy, people respond to peer pressure. Lots of perversions are built in, and succubi especially mold themselves into whatever men find desirable. There's also quite a few interesting texts on how transsexualism is actually linked with the end times of a society, but that's another talk.
The first 3 points though, here's my theory. I've posted this before elsewhere and never really got any traction, but here goes. Firstly, goes without saying there's social engineering going on, but one of the internets' strengths was that each website had its own culture that was very difficult for multilevel marketers to penetrate. Every advertisement/attempt at viral marketing came off as a "how do you do, fellow children?" post. When a new generation of internet posters joined the ranks in 2007/8 and beyond, their desire to belong made an opportunity for companies to get their foot in the door. This is where you started to see all those template memes (bachelor frog, courage wolf, etc). Basically, input text into a machine, receive meme. Even this was too clunky though, it was too easy to stick out like a sore thumb this way, so memes were consolidated.
Ever wonder why every meme these days is a Wojak or a Pepe? Aside from having their own array of really expressive facial features, making them very malliable, their smugness/relatable nature makes them MUCH harder to detect as "other". This was the result of deliberate spam. Back in the day, how would you advertise using courage wolf, all your base, etc? You couldn't, plain and simple. These days? Post a comfy pepe with
>tfw drinking white claw
Any comfy kinos for this feel?
Most of us spot it as advertising, but it blends in so much better than ever. Because the meme language of the internet has been boiled down to 2 memes, advertising bots can succeed where they never used to. This includes political advertising, social engineering projects, or even just pushing monster as a "boomer" beverage. Just make an edit of a wojak/pepe, post your product, you win. This is what hiroshimoot meant when he said he was making 4chan "advertiser friendly". Part of it was splitting the website, but 90% of it was astroturfing the place so that marketers could fit in. That's why half the internet is so sterile now, every website did it. The threads, posts, ideas, videos - it's all fake. Even when real people post, it's with perverse financial incentives, invalidating their interaction.
You're not on the internet anymore, you're stuck in a commercial
And even though I said it in this post, when I say "marketer" I'm not strictly speaking about companies pushing products (although that was the bulk of the early push for it). That term is also meant to include any foreign body attempting to peddle anything where it didn't belong. So "influencers", political bots (Post picture of wojak/pepe on a video game board, ask "What games let me -insert topical political reference here-?"), all of it is included under the umbrella.
As for the real life mirroring online perversion, I SHOULD just toss this in here anyways since it was brought up. Read Libido-Dominandi. There are a lot of forces at play here, so a lot of people rode the wave of internet perversion for their own particular ends, but the core of what needs to be understood is that sexual liberation IS a form of social control. There are people genuinely celebrating perversion, people held captive by it, and people that benefit from it. Marketers can use this as well, post picture of naked succubus with "hey guys lets talk about -product-" or the infinite variations of "This is X. You did buy her game, right?" etc etc.
Lust is a powerful thing. When they can manipulate your lust, they own you. And they can be anybody at all once the door is opened. Same reason algorithm fiction kicked off. They figure out how to manipulate people, use marketing campaigns and focus groups to boil down audiences to their core motivators, then make the safest product. And if the product is bad? That's okay, they can apply SO much social pressure now that they can force even a bad product to be a success. Bully other competitors out of the market, shill your product on every platform in every area, manipulate people using their base lust and other desires… it's dystopian.
I could go on but I'm a wageslave and my clock says I need to go get in my cagie.
Some of your stuff makes sense but some of it is just human laziness. If everyone is on a smart phone they need "easy to make" memes. Can't edit photos very well on a phone and you sure as hell can't photoshop. So the current 2 memes with text over them thing makes sense. It simplified memes to the lowest possible tier.
The other possibility is memes have become more local. You're not seeing fresh new memes because they're all on Twitch, Discord and Facebook groups in private little communities. Memes become almost inside jokes within a community and have little to no reason to post them else where.
>This is absolutely the fault of corporations and government entities that all of my old friends don't talk to me anymore!
It couldn't be your giant boring rants of /pol/tard conspiracy theories and how much you want to have sex with children. No, it's corporations fault.
>Immediately throws the pol boogeyman around
You're exactly why the npc meme exists. Please fuck off to another website, we're trying to have a conversation. Go shitpost on 4chan where you belong
Noticed this kind of meme marketing on /v/ already 10 years ago or so, but it wasn't as prevalent and obvious back then like it is now. Certain games being unnaturally pushed and brands being randomly inserted in memes, Monster is one example. Never got why monster of all things is deemed the drink for the 30-year-old boomer, maybe it's an American thing. Monster and such energy drinks seem more of a zoomer thing here.
You have companies like Wendy's being unfunny on twitter to pander to the younger generation. Whenever there's a new movie coming out you see low effort memes about it, like the Avengers. Many created by retards and children, but don't tell me the industry isn't in on it. And the latest ad campaign with the Joker movie, when you see /pol/ and /tv/ boards being spammed with threads implying the movie is redpilled and asking if it's "our movie". Sure it looks good for being a current year movie, but the movie jews doesn't care if it happens to be redpilled, and they don't give a shit about your opinions as long as you go watch the movie and pay up. And then they go ahead and shit out a woke Batwoman flick and it's business as usual again.
Doubt. That would be like half of 4chad.
>>227276>My 70-year old hillbilly uncle>He goes to the library every tuesday morning and spends his entire 30 minute session browsing 4chan
Always gets a "Top Kek" out of me.
Reddit and /pol/ are the cringiest things ever created
Man I hate this. Now that I think about it, I realized I was led to that abysm by 4chan /gif/ a few years ago. It's like anons on this thread have already said: literally mentally ill people pushing the same trash over and over. Imageboards appeared to me as some dumb way to kill time but they've modeled my mind to such extent that it's scary.
There's a difference between having a paraphilia and heading activist and political campaigns to try to make your paraphilia mainstream.
>is into shitty fetishes
>is a right wing turd head
>probably hates niggers and fags while glamorizing his shitty fetish that would get him gassed in his dream nazi reality
you deserve all the shit you get and worse
>>227342>shitty fetishes>turd head>gassed
degenerates are degenerates regardless of their degeneracy
I think there's some sort of conspiracy to scrub all non-controlled sites from the internet. Remember back around 2012 where there were tons of alt-chans to compete with 4chan? Now there's practically none. Seems like every couple months another one is shut down. I have the incessant feeling that wizchan will be on the chopping block soon as well.
I was sure that 8chan was a part of the conspiracy since it served as a way to dissuade people from making new chans (it's much easier to just make an 8ch board), but I guess either I was wrong or it served its purpose and what we're seeing is the free internets' death rattles.
I'm not an oldfag but I feel like it's less AI and algorithms than it is just people rallying under certain signs/memes and molding their personalities around them, thus destroying the feel of individuality you might get from them when they post online.
The kinds of memes that have been made in past years illustrate this. You have things like red pill vs. blue pill, virgin vs chad, boomer vs. zoomer, all illustrating the superiority of one type of thought or person over another.
People align themselves under the good side of these things. I want to be red pilled so I hate niggers and kikes and want to resurrect NatSoc, and will make sure everyone around me knows it. I want to be chad so whenever I see sad people, I call them faggot weenies and talk about how they need to nut up. I want to be the boomer so I only play and talk about older games, and any newer ones are shit.
Even this site has become the same. I want to be a wizard so I talk about how stupid all normalfags are and how superior the wizard lifestyle is. This site isn't just a place for virgins to gather. it's a place that modifies their way of thinking and forcibly aligns them under the wizard meme, glorification of the volcel ideal and perceived wizardly ways of living and modes of thinking.
The above are all dichotomies but outside of that you can find other signs people rally under without another inferior one placed against it, like being a "weeb", fapping to degenerate shit, or playing certain games.
The end result, I think, is that all these people, through aligning themselves under these signs/memes, lose whatever unique value they might have brought to the table as a poster and become disposable. The average /pol/ user posting jew face pics or linking statistics is completely replaceable, anyone can do what he does and fill his shoes, there's nothing unique about him. Same for all the blacked posters, they could be one person for all we care, anyone who's posting it is disposable (insofar as his online presence is concerned, at least).
AI is certainly present but I think you're greatly overestimating its power, and the power of modern technology in general. I don't think media is necessarily algorithmic, I just think that the producers are slowly starting to improve and "perfect" it, in the sense that it's become a science where you make something that will maximize profits and popularity. Many youtubers or bloggers will seem like generic AI but again, that's because they're aligning themselves under a certain sign. Hell there are entire channels based on this, that coach red pill guy, the golden one, etc.
And the repeating threads and replies, also, is just a result of all this. Not an AI.
All that said I think that without a doubt, people like Zuckerburg and others in power want imageboards taken down. I don't know if they were "anons" or whatever but they're probably not happy about imageboards having such a large influence in real life.
Congratulations, you have discovered society.
In a serious mood, that's nothing new. Humans have been doing that throughout history for centuries. There's always this tension between individuality and society, between the individual and the group. Ultimately, the individual needs the group. For example, according to Durkheim, we need that external and imperialistic thing called "society" to constrain our behaviour, because in this way we can find a form to mold our limitless desires and impulses. This means society chanalizes our different impulses and makes possible "happiness" or something close to it, stability or whatever you wanna call it. At the same time, society always seems oppressive, dull, asfixiating, and we want to escape from it and pursue our own individuality. This truly seems the "natural" condition of human beings, at least for now. It's also true that a more developed society makes more possible individuality (we are more "individuals" in a modern capitalistic society than in a tribal one). But for now, society still exists and imposes a certain way to look at things, to enjoy and to live.
>>227355>The end result, I think, is that all these people, through aligning themselves under these signs/memes, lose whatever unique value they might have brought to the table as a poster and become disposable.
Yes, it's quite sad really and only seems to be getting worse.
Your post is correct but also wrong in some areas. You take European ideals and apply them universally which doesn't work. Indidivualism is at it's core a white male identity. succubi are always collectvism even in their "I'm so unique look at me" attention seeking ways. neon hair, tattoos and piercings all look the same. Other racial groups are far far more tribal even in modern societies. Big cities are tribal segregated by choice. Places like China town, the Muslim area, the Jew area. It's all split off into it's own small tribal groupings. That's why in voting you see tribal block voting and social pressure by people to breed within their own ethnicity and mixed race children being looked down upon by both groups.
Modern society doesn't make people more individual as much as it isolates people more. When you bring in an ethnic group with more stronger ethnic loyalty (this is pretty much every group except Europeans) you end up with very tight knit small communities who at most show western behaviour patterns in their rebellious teen phase then fit right back into their traditional ethnic patterns.
>>227367>Ignorant post blah blah blah
There hasn't been an ethnic mass shooting out of 8ch. Even Tarrent went after a mosque with known terrorist ties so it wasn't ethnic based.
If you believed the internet was to be controlled then wizchan is the ideal control mechanism. You create a containment space for undesirables to go and bitch about things. Now they can sit in their little hole and no one outside can hear their ideas and spread them. If I was making a way to get rid of people I would create a place like this. Then you would willingly come here, isolate yourself and die. Zero chance of you passing on genes or memes, no bad PR because I didn't have to remove you myself and you will act as a honey pot to draw in others. Mean while everyone is screaming "muh true wizardism" and pushing everyone to become even less functional and less ability to be relevant to infecting a wider group with your ideas.
>>227367>What if alt-right is a secretly controlled opposition movememt to help the mega corps and governments to enforce total internet censurship, spread fear and rationalize controlled internet for the masses for "safety ugh".
I can not think of a piece of safety legislation post-9/11 that has made my life better and not many, many times worse. Any legislation pushed through for reasons of fear or even just 'safety' at this point is the absolute shittest. They've already destroyed and continue to destroy a lot of the internet by using cp politically as a tool to fearmonger people and now use it to frame websites that anyone in the world wants to shut down.
I am also convinced that alt-right shooters are props by the government, in the same way that the Unabomber was confirmed MK-Ultra. The reason is because the targets make no sense. The 2017 Congressional baseball shooting makes sense to me: the guy felt powerless and shot people in power who he thought was making his life worse. These "alt-right" shooters do not. I hate browns, so let's shoot up a fucking Wal-Mart or some bumfuck nowhere mosque??? It just doesn't line up with the amount of time and expense needed to write up a manifesto and the stated goals of the manifesto (even if you consider 'accelerationism'). The methods don't even line up. I mean, a car bomb on average gets a lot more civilian casualties, can allow you to pinpoint targets, and a lot of the time the car bomber doesn't get caught so you can repeat the targets. This is one reason I don't buy the "bUt shOOteRs aRE alrEAdy MesSeD UP iN thE HeaD" reply. But if you insist upon this reply, then I will admit that the only way it does make sense is if "messed up in the head" means "like MK-Ultra techniques screw you up in the head." These shooters are being propped up by the feds. And if they really weren't, there should be a lot more
Finally, on per capita bases, the amount of people that suffer from these shootings does not compare to things like the number of suicides going on (which if your goal is to avoid death/suffering, that's a much, much larger number to take a look at). Which makes me think that the undue attention placed on these (especially when meanwhile you've got gang shootings in Chicago every goddam week), definitely makes me think that this is just a method for political control.
I understand you need to practice your /pol/groidism and 8chan is down but there is /pol/ that is on 4chan and it's up and running.
Go back to your place, why do you have to shit an unrelated site with your political aspergers?
Ow you think you are so different than the commie SJWs but you arent. You both come and shit things up in unrelated places.
>/pol/ refugees not welcme
Guy complaining about refugees while being a frog poster. The absolute state of wizchan right now. Jesus Christ.
>>227373>There hasn't been an ethnic mass shooting out of 8ch. Even Tarrent went after a mosque with known terrorist ties so it wasn't ethnic based.
Yes I'm sure the children he gunned down totally had terrorist affiliations. 8/pol/ was just a breeding ground for pathetic pseudo-intellectuals succumbing to their own predispositions/superiority (and inferiority) complexes, searching for "statistics" in order to make themselves feel better about being a "pure" European. I remember going there once and seeing threads like "People sub 140iq should be gassed", nobody challenged the OPs assertion about his own intellect, in fact everyone in the thread just went around and assumed they were intellectually superior. It was genuinely not any better than /leftypol/, perhaps even worse. As soon as a niche internet community becomes sufficiently elitist, it goes to shit in a sprawling attempt to stay counter-culture.
/leftypol had literally nothing wrong. Retarded centrist.
Are you guys sure you're replying to the right post? I don't understand what you are replying to in >>227373
Oh I agree with the latter half of his post, just not the initial affirmation.
>>227140>Spend a few days randomly checking it out on your PC and your phone. You will soon notice that from time to time, at irregular intervals (as far as I’ve witnessed) the same site as seen on your phone will be wholly different than the version on your PC. Entire threads, numerous and well-replied, will be on one but not the other. The whole board will be different.
Both you and I have the exact same background but i've never seen anything like this.
It was always cancer.
i think ive posted this somewhere on wizchan but /pol/ and /x/ are completely run by either the JIDF or any group of the like, or an AI. i haven't noticed this as much on /x/, but on /pol/ one entity will make an entire thread where it will reply to itself, insult itself, make bait, and try to 'liven' it up. there will always be the one sentence OP with an uninteresting half related picture, the few shitty arguments meant to bait posters in, multiple people saying completely off topic things such as "RRRREEEEEE", "OP is a tranny", or the classic "nigger". all of those things i found within 1 minute on /pol/, they give no further input, no image. its really off when you notice it. the whole point of those posts is just to make it look like the thread is alive. as for the bait posters its not that simple, they stage entire arguments to try and make up your mind for you. if you reply youve already been had because just reading the thread has implanted so many subconscious assumptions into your mind.
well when i finally realized this i went into a thread on /pol/ and saw another soulless thread, saw a few obviously staged arguements and off topic posts so i replied to all of them saying they were the same person. i got 2 replies both calling me a schizo or something but they were obviously the same person so i said they were and that this entire thread was staged by him. the reply i got was "yeah but some of the schizos here actually believe this." the thread died shortly after. they talk backwards but i think what it implies is very clear.that is the only shred of proof i have that the internet is filled with jewish people trying to attack my mind.
one thing that is less noticeable on /pol/ but extremely noticeable on /x/ is the constant discussion of topics discussed yesterday, and the day before yesterday. its not like a 1:1 copy as i think OP described but i cant imagine an actual human discussing things like consciousness, if god is real, and flat earth. the thing is, no new points are made, nothing new is discovered, no one is learning anything. its like its either a massive circle jerk or there is a constant stream of mindless newfags that are entertained by this content. well what i think is that these topics are addictive to talk about and you arent discovering anything for a reason. its a dead board filled with bots or paid humans to keep people seeking enlightenment stuck in a trap of pointlessness while thinking that they are learning.
on the topic of 8ch i think it was shut down because it was too decentralized, anyone can make a board so how can all the boards be properly mind controlled? i didnt use 8ch but i did make a visit before it was shut down and i saw a very high consciousness of the shilling that goes on and "they" didnt like that the people of 8ch knew. in the end i think that they gave up on trying to poison the minds of 8ch, but i cant really say im speaking from too much experience on there.>>227140>There was no “goodbye” or explanation.
i think thats just how internet friendships end. no one is expecting it to be the last time you talk to someone. something just comes up and they forget about you. thats how ive ended everysingle one of my internet friendships.
to end my post i would like to ask everyone when was the last time they made any piece of media to contribute to the internet, anything at all.
Hello OP, I'm also an oldfag (2006) and also posted on /pol/ since 2012 until like 2015> I’ve seen the same threads, the same pics and the same replies reposted over and over across the years to the point of me seeing it as unremarkable
Not saying it was all me but I used to spam a lot the same threads (and sometimes same replies) in /pol/ during 2016-17 intentionally to troll poltards. I even got two IP ranges banned for a while. Why did I do it? Because poltards and specially american posters were easy to troll and get massive lulz and butthurt. Sometimes I spammed the same shit to other boards
What I mean with this is that while there's probably automated replies a lot of the repetitions are just autism/trolling
> Roughly in 2016 or early 2017 4chan was filled with posts by someone or something. It wasn’t spam.
Got any examples/threads? Sounds interesting
> Why is it that real life and the real world seem to emulate our sexual interests, with a time lag?
I also noticed this but not only with sexual stuff, but also with every other thing
>>227367>hurr durr racism xDDD
What's with this fucking site and their nalant hatred towards /pol/ anyway? What, is this site now flooded with Tumblr libfags now? Also get a grip libshit, why not go back to Plebbit with your retard SJW friends.
do you wish you had a gf or wife?
This proves this site is infested with normalfags. No wizard would ever dedicate to hate /pol. He may not be interested in it, sure, but being triggered by it is merely a normalfag thing.
It was fine when /pol/tards kept to themselves in their dedicated landfill. I just hide their shit thread and that would be it, no politics on wizchan. It stopped being okay when countless threads started popping up on /lounge/, /wiz/ and /dep/ with obvious political agenda.
No, I don't care about your race dying out. No, I don't care about elites controlling you. No, I don't care about your culture being under attack. Fuck off.
This. What poltards don't realize is that we simply don't give a shit about their garbage. You have a dedicated thread, stay there and stop shitting the site >>228467>>228472> being triggered by it is merely a normalfag thing.
All the opposite, politics are a normalfag shit, be them left wing or right wing. Also nice to see you all outting yourselves, how about going back to 4chad or just respecting the local culture? Stop ruining this site please
Poltards and their retarded muh traditional society shit are normalfag tier and antiwizardly because it promotes procreating, for fuck sake just stop
>>228467>What's with this fucking site and their nalant hatred towards /pol/ anyway?
They tend to be the lowest common denominator of this site, failing to adjust to the culture and frequently just being obnoxious. I feel contempt for the average /pol/ user spamming 'kike' and 'preserve the white race' memes in the same way as I would feel contempt for some liberal shithead from Twitter, if he came in here spamming memes about feminism or reparations. They're both idiots who position themselves under a larger group as tools to propagate memes and misinformation with no reality behind them. The only reason you don't see people bitching about 'libtards' here is because they don't come here, due to the average demographic of people on obscure chans being made up of a large number of alt-righters and also due to the fact that this is a boy's only club, which is going to repel them.
Ironically your post is the perfect example of why I, and probably others, hate you. You zone in on "racism" used in the larger context of that guy's post and sperg out over it, parroting the typical "gb2 reddit" nonsense rather than addressing anything he said. You've been so conditioned by the communities you browse that seeing a 'bad word' induces a response from you of shitposting and stamping the label of "tumblr", "libshit", etc. There's no substance here.
Add to this the facts that >/pol/ introduced a massive number of normalfags to imageboards and IB culture>the average wizard doesn't have interest in political topics outside of bux and euthanasia - a large amount are too depressed to even care about things outside of themselves>/pol/ values are often at odds with wizard values, promoting a strong family unit, promoting reproduction to save the white race, and making NEETing impossible unless you're born into money>/pol/ users are often crabs
and I think you can see why people here aren't fond of them.
Talking about repeat threads, I have one in particular that always stood out to me. I was reading a thread on /v/ about pikmin. I played the first game years ago and the thread was a nice bit of nostalgia. The next night, I see the same thread. Same OP, many of the same exact comments but with some new ones. I asked in the thread if anyone remembered the same thread the night before and a few people replied that they did and it was strange and the thread died shortly after.
I would chock it up to marketing, but what stood out to me was that there was no new pikmin game coming out or anything relevant about it to be marketed. I have seen many repeat threads but that one was by far the most blatant.
I'm also guessing that a lot of /pol/ posters seem to confuse wizchan culture with that of /r9k/ (which has a lot of crossposting and shared userbase with /pol/) and due to their (willful) ignorance of this site's culture and rules they act if this site somehow were the same shit as 4chad
What's wrong with that? Are you that communist spammer?
I don't see any rule breaks. There really is a communist spammer here and you'll see it after your first week here.
>>228487>I don't see any rule breaks>5. Do not submit low quality, inflammatory or off-topic posts.
I've been here for years btw and I still don't know who you're talking about. There's some delusional guy on /b/ who occasionally posts his Soviet fantasies but he does it too irregularly to be called a spammer and I haven't seen it in weeks. I don't browse the political thread so I don't know what happens there. Outside of that I see someone post about Communism or related topics once in a blue moon, last time was in the wageslave thread.
If this guy was a spammer I'd think there would be posts you could explicitly link to or screenshot rather than just saying "yeah you'll see him." Not really convincing to someone who browses this site daily and still hasn't seen him.
Rule 5 is bullshit. In the end it all just comes down to the whims of retarded mods on what those posts are. The communist spammer usually is anti pol and likes to talk about communist talking points. Maybe you dont even know what communism is so you failed to notice lol
If you love pol so much why not just stay and remain there? What's the need to go to every corner in the internet and complain that people dislikes pol for whatever reason?
Shit enforcement of the rules does not make them bullshit. People who post low-quality and flame should be held in contempt regardless of whether the posts get deleted or not.
>communist talking points
What communist talking points? You're going on and on about this guy but you can't provide any links or screenshots of his posts, or even paraphrase what types of points he makes to at least give something resembling a concrete example. It makes it seem like this is just some boogeyman you've created in your head and that you're reading too deeply into posts to find things that aren't there.
And if this is some character in the political thread then I don't care, because at least he keeps it contained to the designated thread.
Hes in wiz rn. >>228493
Why not go to both?
If it's the poster who posts paragraphs of whiny rants and complains about pol all the time it's probably schizenu. Being irrationally obsessed with pol seems to be a very female trait anyways, or at least an effeminate one. Same with crab obsession.
Does the name Reiko ring any bells?
You say the A.I was childlike and that the world seems to be using imageboards as a template, right? Since it's so careless in these additions to reality does that mean it doesn't understand the context behind our desires but tries to make them real out of some sort of "kindness?"
>>227266>it happened in a very sudden non organic way
It happened because a shitload of "normalfag" college students, and a lot of succubi among them, started to post on 4chan, mainly on /gif/ and it was all because of /pol/'s involvement with late gamergate and the posterior 2016 elections.
Usually 4chan posters where STEM autists, but now that liberal arts and social science fags started posting they brought their black cock worship with them, right now there is 3, 3 fucking threads about white men for black cock at /gif/
STEM posters in 4chan (and overall /pol/ and /his/) are the worst of all. In /int/ is full of them and most are normalfags from facebook. What the fuck are you talking about?
Stem is not an autist field anymore the overshilling of stem degrees in internet and media saturated it with normalfags
Go project your fantasies in another place poltard
Sounds like a guy on discord
Obvious pollack is obvious. Even funnier since /gif/ is full of them
This website is lost
those are the fricking wrong boards, STEM fags still exist and hang around /g/ and /jp/, they used to be on /a/ as well bedore the latino americans claimed it.r
Since you complain so much perhaps you people can go back to 4chad to defend and regain your stupid politics board instead of invading and infesting this site of us, don't you think?
If you're talking about the guy in this thread calling everyone /pol/ then yeah he's a little off although I don't see how you get communist talking points from him, or how you thought that I was him. He's called me a LARPing poltard before too and I don't really know why.
There's more than one person calling you out. Wizchan is not pol's ally or whatever they do believe
simple. loss of anonymity means a tattle tale system. so china controls the who,e i ternet now. they have at least 100,000 people to devote to each westerner (in counter attack situations, on an ongoing basis just 1,000. all numbers multiplied by at least 10 in appearance because of aliases driven by bots).
the internet already was controlled by kikes, and chinks copied them. you can no more criticize china than israel and have your account last a month thereafter. they use many tricks, and play upon the mods like a virtuoso. anti kike and anti chink positions are thus impossible to find in persistent accounts.
to bring back the internet, bring back anonymity.
>>228809> Janice Brandt is an American businesswoman and vice chair emeritus of America Online/Time Warner. She is known for her famous direct marketing campaign at AOL that increased the number of subscribers from 200,000 to more than 22 million.
Seems strange that people who started browsing in 2006 can call themselves oldfags. Maybe I'm being a crotchety elitist in some way, it just blows my mind how much time has passed when those days seem not so long ago..
Could this be the work of erratas?
Internet bubbles quell revolutions. They force sheep to flock to the prism type sites. There no one is acting truly human, being overly watched and all. We originally had no money nor personal information online. Now all most use it for is personal infomration and money. It's pay per view number two plus the yellow pages. If you see.
>>231939>Internet bubbles quell revolutions.
made me think of this book I've read recently, though I guess most of us were already familiar with the content to a certain degree
at least I can see where the people suspicious of tor are coming from now
>>227342>believes in gassings
You just lost some two or three lessons there at any chan's /pol/, wizkid.
Your assumption is that a bot would have a specific goal set by a human user. Rather, it can have fluid goals and analyze trends, intensifying them.
The bots might decide daily goals by analyzing google trends, for example.
However, it's an unstable feedback loop since the initial suggestions feed on themselves. I have the suspicion every weekly meme on facebook is an almost randomized experience such bots push. They are always sight variations of a theme, which is blandness.
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>I think Zuckerberg and other tech guys were all on 4chan as Anons at some point, maybe even now.
That feel when Zuckerberg probably called you a retard not liking his taste in cartoons