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 No.235940[Last 50 Posts]

NEET and Hikikomori General Thread


Have you had any success in trying to change your life?

>NEET


>The acronym for (Not In Education Employment Or Training)



>Hikikomori



>Hikikomori is a Japanese term when translated into English it means pulling inward being confined (Acute social withdrawal) hikikomori is a distinct psychological disorder that refers to the phenomenon of reclusive adolescents and young adults who have withdrawn from society seeking extreme degrees of isolation and confinement due to various personal social and psychological issues in their lives. (A shut-in who stays at home in their parents house does not work or go to school and lives in isolation in their bedroom for 6 months or more)



>Contrary to popular belief most hikikomori go outdoors but are just isolated socially and still spend most of the day and nearly every single day confined at home in their rooms


>The Japanese Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare defines hikikomori as a condition in which the affected individuals refuse to leave their parents house, do not work or go to school and isolate themselves away from society and their family in a single room for a period exceeding six months


>The Hikikomori Criteria and Diagnosis


>1. Subject spends most of the day confined at home, nearly every single day.


>2. Subject purposefully avoids social situations and social relationships


>3. Subject shows clear significant functional impairment,


>4. Subject shows social withdrawal symptoms for .a duration of 6 months or more


>5. Subject has no physical condition nor other severe psychological problem that is the cause of the social withdrawal (Mainly excluding people with schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders


>While hikikomori is mostly only a Japanese phenomenon cases of the condition have been found in other countries


People who work go to school or have a social life are not hikikomori.

People who work are receiving an education or are in vocational job training are NOT a NEET

 No.235950

The japs pretend they care about their citizens but it's because they want to squeeze out the most labor out of them.
How dare they not spend 80+ hours a week working and refuse to repeat the cycle by spawning the next generation of slaves.. err I mean children.

 No.235952

>>235950

This is true and it plays a part in why many young people have moved away from the whole salary man office job thing and have started becoming Freeters which are Japanese part-time workers.

 No.235957

this thread's already off to a great start

>Have you had any success in trying to change your life?

 No.235962

>>235957

What is wrong with asking a question like that?

 No.235977

>>235962
There are wiz that hang out on /dep/ and get irrationally irate whenever anything hints at self improvement, personal agency, or something relating to personal standards.

It is just the classic crab in bucket mindset.

 No.235979

>>235977
There are wiz that hang out on /dep/ and get irrationally irate whenever there are actually depressed people who have given up on life.

It is just the classic normie outsider in a board he doesn't belong telling others how to behave mindset.

 No.235980

>>235977
>There are wiz that hang out on /dep/ and get irrationally irate whenever anything hints at self improvement, personal agency, or something relating to personal standards.

If you frame the discussion with the assumption people are trying to get out of NEETdom, you're already closing off the thread to anyone who enjoys being a NEET. The point of a NEET thread on wizchan of all places shouldn't be to "self-improve" out of it.

You improvebrahs are fucking cancer. Not everyone needs to "self-improve" Petershit, go shill your shitty podcasts elsewhere.

 No.235984

>>235962
you are basically starting off the neet thread by asking who has 'successfully' quit neeting and started wafeslaving. it's dumb as hell

 No.235985

>>235984
>you are basically starting off the neet thread by asking who has 'successfully' quit neeting and started wafeslaving. it's dumb as hell


There is nothing wrong with wanting to improve your life.

 No.235987

>>235985
that is basically like creating a reading thread and starting it off saying "have you had any success stopping reading books". it's fucking stupid

 No.235988

>>235987
>that is basically like creating a reading thread and starting it off saying "have you had any success stopping reading books". it's fucking stupid


Anon you sound like a fucking baby shut the fuck up and grow up stop with that /r9k/ muh wagie talk its toxic if people want to change their lives they can if they want to.

 No.235989

>>235985
improve your life elsewhere faggot

 No.235990

>>235989
>improve your life elsewhere faggot

Grow up baby.

 No.235991

>>235985
>>235990
what you are implying here is that getting a job is somehow "improving your life".
blatant rule 4 violation, there's no wiggling your way out of this one, fuck off.

 No.235992

>>235991
>what you are implying here is that getting a job is somehow "improving your life".


Not exactly i am not saying get a job bro people can change their lives in different ways getting a job doesn't necessarily work for everyone but it does work for others now stop derailing this thread.

 No.235993

>>235988
>Anon
>you sound like a fucking baby
>shut the fuck up
>/r9k/ muh wagie talk
>its toxic
you sound more like the toxic r9ker to me

 No.235994

>>235993

What the fuck? how??

 No.236005

I laughed

 No.236008

>>236005
>I laughed

Ok then.

 No.236012

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Been a NEET for a solid half decade now, I know that's not that long. No issues yet so none to fix and therefore no attempts to change anything in relation to working. There's personal problems of course, but as this is a NEET thread I don't think it's relevant to bring up personality problems that are unrelated to my NEET status.
I have an observation to share that might help out NEETs dealing with a very specific type of misery:
Whenever I forget about society for a while I have a great time doing nothing all day. Whenever I remember work exists as a concept I get very misanthropic again. My siblings work. It is miserable, I wish everyone that didn't want to put up with it could just become a NEET like me. I see how it sucks up freedom, motivation and energy. They come home and all they can do is eat and watch videos. Ironically that isn't much different from what I do, but the key difference is they have no choice but to do it. They have no other option. I do. And that's why the same activities feel miserable for them and liberating for me.
Freedom is incredibly important, privacy too. I'd say having the energy to make the most of freedom and privacy isn't nearly as important as the freedom and privacy itself. Being able to be alone when you want to. Being able to live at your own pace. Being able. It's all about that sense of choice.
So if I was trapped being a NEET, (no hope to undo my isolation, no chance to go outside, etc.) I would lack the same freedom that my siblings do and we'd likely be in a similar state of misery. This is why every half a year or so I go outside and do simple activities there. It reinforces the reality that I have the ability to do so and continues to make me feel free at home. Staying inside and doing nothing of my own volition again. I don't know how accurate this sense of choice is, but that's never the part that matters. It just has to be there.
I'll close off this post by saying that if you have found yourself a life similar to this, you are genuinely blessed. You may not always feel it because being blessed doesn't feel that great anyway, but the contrast between you and the average state of being will be a cruel one to behold. Especially when comparing to people you care about like family. Work sucks and life is even worse, good luck.

 No.236025

I've learned to enjoy being a hiki. Why would you ever want to be well adjusted to this society? Fuck that man. You have to be stupid and highly influenced by what others think of you to fall for the normalfag wageslave meme. Maybe if you're a third worlder who would have a terrible quality of life if you didn't wageslave, okay, but for most neets they don't work because they don't want to. It's not because they're crazy, it's just a choice that some people make.

I think people often misunderstand what it is they really want to do. They think they want to do some thing, but in reality they don't really want to do it. What they really want to do is whatever it is they actually do. People confuse wanting to do things for real and imagining what they would want if they were a different person. The latter one is where you get into trouble. People start imagining themselves all different and think of the possibilities and they can imagine all sorts of great things, but the truth is you're not going to be that person. Whatever is stopping you from doing those things is just a part of your personality. When people can accept that they stop feeling so terrible about themselves all the time. Hollywood and society meme everyone into thinking they have to be some bigshot financial success by being a wage slave and buying a bunch of stuff, and it's true that the average person will treat you differently based on these things, but there's no reason you need to jump through hoops just so dumb normalfags will clap and pat you on the back. Plenty of people don't give one shit about that crap and can just live and be happy.

 No.236031

>>236025

You're not a hikikomori hikikomori is a psychological disorder mostly only in Japan it is not the same thing as being a hermit who enjoys solitude hikikomori find peace in their isolation at first but overtime it causes them severe psychological distress and pain and they experience functional impairment in their daily lives they literally are the most extreme loners on the face of the earth and very emotionally sensitive people

 No.236034

Anime annoys me

 No.236035

>>236031
no one here is japanese and no one is expecting that sort of definition for hiki. you understood what he meant.

 No.236038

>>236035
>no one here is japanese and no one is expecting that sort of definition for hiki. you understood what he meant.


Proving my point that hikikomori are rare outside of Asian culture.

 No.236041

>>236031
I meet all the diagnostic criteria in the OP so why exactly am I not a hiki? There was no requirement for suffering in there. I think you're just making up your own interpretation and saying everyone else's interpretation is wrong.

 No.236043

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Almost a decade of this. Having some feelings of restlessness and resentment bubbling but it's not like it's my first time with that shit, and has anything changed yet? No.
Maybe this time.

 No.236044

>>236041
Warning: I've seen this discussion play out in other threads, there won't be any yielding.
I also think suffering has nothing to do with being a hiki, such a strange argument.

 No.236045

>>236041
in the past this poster has tried defending this definition, saying it needs suffering and signicant mental impairment and quality of life decreases or whatever. he just made this thread to argue with people.

 No.236080

>>236041
>There was no requirement for suffering in there. I think you're just making up your own interpretation and saying everyone else's interpretation is wrong.

>3. Subject shows clear significant functional impairment,

 No.236081

>>236041
He's a gay weeb who insists that only the japanese can be hikkis.

 No.236082

>>236081
>He's a gay weeb who insists that only the japanese can be hikkis.

Its Hiki not Hikki and yes only Japanese people are real hikikomori shut-in NEETs in western culture who fit the definition of hikikomori are just the western equivalent of a hikikomori.

 No.236087

My great grandmother has half japanese im probably the only real hikki in this webzone

 No.236088

>>236087
>My great grandmother has half japanese im probably the only real hikki in this webzone


Hapas are not real Asians they are white people who just have Asian blood in them created as a result of degenerate race mixing various examples are Hiding In My Room Elliot Rodger and Zombiebeatz2000

 No.236089

>>236080
That just means you're not a normie. If you don't go places and do things they will call you functionally impaired.

You can suffer just fine while not being "functionally impaired" by the way. That all just has to do with your ability to conform to social norms. They will say a man who worked and lived a normal life until one day blowing his brains out had no signs of functional impairment, but you know he had to have been suffering for a long time. I have suffered for a long time and been functionally impaired from my heavy depression to the point where I literally couldn't do anything but lay in bed even if I tried, that was what made me neet in the first place, but my suffering has been reduced as I've adapted to the lifestyle.

For me there is no way to not suffer in the normalfaggot world. I cannot simply close my eyes to all the shit I know and play their stupid self destructive game. If the human race is going to commit suicide, I am just going to sit out in the comfort that all their stupid games have produced for me and I have made peace with that. I no longer pay any heed to any social norms at all or care what a single normie thinks of me because I just think they're literally insane and I value my sanity even if it means being less happy because I am not fulfilling certain requirements that trigger evolved instinctive feelings of happiness like being respected among ones peers and socializing recreationally with them, or accomplishing goals together. What do you want more? For the norms, it is the good feelings, but I have learned to make due with supplements available on the internet like entertainment media because I do not think it's worth it because the social norms that you have to adapt to in order to get those things are all fucking insane, self destructive, pointlessly cruel, unfair and endlessly enigmatic. It provides plenty of drama and plenty of opportunities to trigger those good feelings that we've evolved, but fuck that shit, I want none of it at this point, my eyes are too open, I can't shut them again, it would be like trying to swim in the ocean with my eyes open, it will only bring me pain.

 No.236090

>>236088
Sour grapes don't talk to me fakeneet

 No.236092

>>236089
>That just means you're not a normie

Hikikomori are failed normalfags technically speaking.

 No.236156

>>236088
He's not even a hapa. Hapa means half asian. If his great grandmother was half japanese, then that would make him 1/16th japanese. Too insignificant to even mention, much less make a part of your identity.

 No.236302

>>235940
>Have you had any success in trying to change your life?
no it's too late for me and my only option is to kill myself
i live in thirdworld and i've not even a dollar
all bridges are burned for me

 No.236325

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>>235940
>Have you had any success in trying to change your life?
NEET and Hiki from 2009-2016, tried to get back up in 2017, relapsed in 2018

I started trying again in 2019.
On April I quit most kusogeimu I was playing and overtime lowered the time I spent on Xchan and following politics.
I went from 300 lbs to 180 in an eight month period (March-Oct) this last year by fasting, avoiding sugar/processed foods/junk food and sticking to whole foods. No exercise since I wanted to focus on using all this extra fat reserves and reinforce a healthy eating habit. First three months of fat loss were kind of slow but consistently dropping every week. When I was at around 270lbs I started to water fast and eating only protein and healthy fats in between; that is when I started dropping the fat fast. Once I was 200 I slowly began to build my physical condition by using some dumbbells, really old and broken resistance bands, and my own body weight. A few times I went out for a HIIT run.

Also I started doing my own laundry last year and going outside just to do errands (no hanging out with others or anything).

Shower everyday, shave, brush my teeth floss teeth more often and try to look presentable when I do go outside.

Now I can somewhat talk to people as long as it is errand related (asking the butcher for a cut of meat for example) but other than that I am still fucking crippled to make any small talk, start a conversation or keep one alive.

I don't yearn friends or a girlfriend (never have for some fucked up reason) and I don't feel lonely or sad when I am alone for hours or days. Yet, I wonder if I am missing something that I never had that is needed for one to feel better or happier like eating healthy foods, exercising, reading and learning.

I got a job interview at an entry level job and I felt like I aced it since I was offered the job on the next day but now the background check company is asking for my tax returns (DON'T HAVE ANY). I did lie on my work history experience these last ten years but it's not like I am applying to a difficult job that requires a college degree. FUCK

 No.236665

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I've recently become very very anxious about being a NEET. I am anxious about the future. Is my existence really just getting older, balding, living with my parents into my 30s, 40s, 50s, then dying and rotting until the stench of my decaying body bothers the neighbors? It's scary to think about the future.

But not being a NEET doesn't cut it either. I have no desires. Normies are driven by sex, having children, money, status, etc. When you don't want any of those things, what the hell are you living for? Life is really absurd when you have no desire for anything.

Most NEETs seem to be low sentience people who are content with consuming media and food all day every day for years and years. I feel that I want more, but I don't know what it is that I want.

What the fuck am I supposed to be doing with my life?

 No.236667

>>236665
Cut off from the things you're dependent on and you'll be forced to grow.

 No.236669

>>236665
>What the fuck am I supposed to be doing with my life?
A while ago I asked myself that same questions. I also had no normal desires to direct my actions in my life, only a number of fears that pushed me away from discomfort. I asked myself "What is something I could do that would make me feel satisfied with my past self after completing it?"

I looked back on my life and realized that all of the things I had done in the past that had enabled me to feel some sort of satisfaction were all things that were difficult to achieve yet I had nevertheless managed to push through that difficulty. However I think few to none of these things would be able to impress an honest stranger if they were told of it. Nor were they anything that had real world practical applications, objectively speaking they would probably be considered wastes of time as well.

For example, I felt some level of satisfaction that I had read some rather difficult books in my childhood. Even the ones that I had failed to finish still instilled within me a sense of accomplishment and pride that I had spent the effort to even try as hard as I did.

On the other hand, my recent decade+ of following the path of least resistance only filled me with a sense of emptiness. I did not feel any sense of guilt for wasting my time, looking back I can't really fault myself for trying to avoid such suffering and pain, however I felt so much better about my time spent in my example as a child trying and oftentimes failing to read these difficult books.

And so I have begun to set arbitrary goals for myself. Goals not designed to impress others or have any real world implications, but only for me to know about and take satisfaction in. I read a few difficult books, and I failed to read several as well. I built a garden in my parents yard, I ended up harvesting some crops but most of the plants got eaten by wild pigs. At the time some of these setbacks were really disheartening, and even the successes felt somewhat hollow when I had completed them. Yet at the same time looking back on them I am still very happy I was able to muster up the effort required to do them.

My mental condition has improved somewhat now, even though paradoxically on a daily basis I experience more immediate discomfort and pain than I used to. I apologize if this post is self aggrandizing or whatever, but your post really sounded like something I would have written about a year ago.

 No.236670

>>236665
>But not being a NEET doesn't cut it either. I have no desires. Normies are driven by sex, having children, money, status, etc. When you don't want any of those things, what the hell are you living for? Life is really absurd when you have no desire for anything.

I felt the exact same way eleven years ago. Felt overwhelmed and depressed after graduating from high school. Another 4 years of not-high school with the potential of becoming people's stepping stone to a better career for the rest of my life. It did not help that I was not like most other people in my schcool even too much from the "nerds" "geeks". I am a kind, thoughtful and smart but boring, awkward and not an interesting person to be around.

I had people tell me that I need to consume mass media shit like sports, pop culture, Game of Thrones and watch similar shitshows in order to have something to talk about with other people. I do not want to put myself through shit just so I can fit in.

Fast forward now >>236325 I can't say I changed much except I stopped being severely depressed and my perspective on life across various subjects has changed.
For example I've become health conscious and see socializing as a potential to grow and learn.

 No.236672

>>236670
>socializing as a potential to grow and learn.
wizchan 2020

 No.236680

>>236672
Yes, people can change. I am a slightly different person in 2020 than I was in 2009
By socializing I mean friending in RL/online current or former long term NEETs/Hiki/shut ins not the mainstream crowd in sports bars. I even refrained from talking/befriending people in video games I played this past decade.

 No.236681

>>236680
You have friends in real life? Do you ever partake in social gatherings?

 No.236682

>>236681
it's wizfriends it's okay

 No.236683

>>236681
Having and doing such things are not against the rules, talking about such things however are.
So therefor if dude is smart he will plead the 5th.

 No.236686

>>236683
By that logic being a female or nonvirgin is not against the rules either unless you mention it.
Tired of these fake wizards stretching the boundaries of what breaks the rules, tiptoeing over the line of what is acceptable, outright harassing me and implying I am persnickety when I call them out on their bullshit fuck you and fuck off

 No.236687

>>236686
no, there is a clear distinction.

>You must be a male virgin and at least 18 years old to use this website.


you must BE.

>Do not post about voluntary real life social activities (e.g. going to a bar or party).


do not POST.

 No.236688

>>236686
>persnickety
Haven't seen that one in awhile.

 No.236689

>>236681
>You have friends in real life?
No.
>Do you ever partake in social gatherings?
No.

 No.236712

>>236325
Good thing you lied. You nearly fucked up big time. Why would a neet want a job? Unless you're absolutely forced to, avoid it at all costs.

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 No.239391

>>236665
>consuming

Stop it for a while. Then retake and then repeat. This is how I coped with other symptoms, even if I haven't been able to completely delete my restlessness.

Somehow it seems to slowly work

 No.239393

>>239391
nice meme, don't forget nofap and cold showers

 No.239438

You either become NEET or a Cult leader, there is no middle ground.

 No.244790

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I'm a neet but technically not a hikikomori because I go out and walk to the grocery store once in a blue moon. This usually takes less than 20 minutes and I don't say a word but yeah.
There are a few dozen anime and vns I want to go through before I get into computers and never look back. I've read a few wikipedia articles and parts of textbooks and it's all too interesting. I wish I had found this stuff earlier.
I think I'll become a soulless self-improvement retard that rationalizes everything in a few months.
It feels like I'm going to kill a child but people supposedly only live for themselves. There isn't anyone watching me, there isn't any virtue in being a selfless retard that doesn't are about his own well being. Nobody cares. You should only trust your own judgment and hope it's not wrong. Nobody will ever take your hands and pull you out of where you are. It's not right but what else can I do?

 No.244873

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>>236665

I can relate to a certain extent. I too have no desires and my existence as a hermit is more just something I endure and make the best of, versus something I actually find enjoyable or am fulfilled by. Of course, for me and most other wizards, it goes without saying that non-hermit life would only ratchet up the tiresome and downright shitty aspects of life to 11. At least as a hermit, I can, for the most part, have as much peace and quiet to myself as I want. Not to mention, sleep as much as I want. Lord, do I treasure my ability to sleep whenever I want for as long as I bloody well please. As you pointed out, media consumption eventually often does become empty and devoid of much stimulation and certainly has for me, but, compared to everything else, it's not the worst thing one can do to pass the time, even if all it feels like is something one forces oneself to do so as to accomplish, if nothing else, the means to widdle away the hours.

Personally speaking, I don't really care for much of anything in this world. Not even the sorts of nebulous wants or desires of the kind you've expressed. Ultimately, I just want to get this whole life of mine over and done with in the least most painful, least most hassle way possible. The best, and really only, way I can currently achieve this is by continuing to live modestly as the hermit I currently am. That's about it.

It does suck to think about aging and becoming more decrepit, that's true, but it's not something I'm actually too bothered about most of the time. What makes me anxious, and is really the only thing that makes me anxious about the future, is one day losing both of my parents and being left alone, truly alone, in this dusty old house of ours. That shit fucking terrifies me when I really sit here and think about it sometimes. I really don't know how I'm going to cope with that kind of immense loss/grief and, truth be told, I very well may not and could perhaps finally bite the big bazooka to escape from it. It's hard to say how it'll go down, but, if one thing's for certain, that inevitable loss is going to be almost certainly the most dislocatingly painful experience of my entire life. And yet each day that passes brings it ever closer.

>Is my existence really just getting older, balding, living with my parents into my 30s, 40s, 50s, then dying and rotting until the stench of my decaying body bothers the neighbors?


Does that stuff really make you anxious? I mean, yeah, it sucks, no doubt about that, but anxious? Again, I'm not too bothered by what the trajectory of it all is, more just what I'm going to lose in the process of it, like in the case of my aforementioned parents and to a lesser extent my youthful looks, health and vigor. If I knew that at least one of my parents was going to somehow outlive me and that I'd die at 58, or sooner, while they live to 120, or whatever, than I could quite literally give a fuck less about what happens to me.

To be honest, it sounds as if you actually still want something out of life, even though you can't put what that 'something' is into words. If possible, I'd recommend you find it, assuming you can, since otherwise the hermit life will probably be a lot more painful for you. Either that, or just accept things as they are and make the best of it, even if that means just mindlessly consuming random media to kill time. Or, I don't know, take up some other random hobby that you view as more subjectively meaningful to yourself.

>Most NEETs seem to be low sentience people who are content with consuming media and food all day every day for years and years.


Well, that's a bit harsh. Still, I agree, that some people seem to be more satisfied with it than others. I wouldn't call them "low sentience" exactly, but sometimes indulging in the simpler things can just be enough for some people and always will be. Whether someone is a NEET or a wageslave, a wizard or a normalfag, there will always be differences between what satisfies one and not another. Pretty much the entire human race is content with just media/food consumption. Bread and circuses basically, while throwing in an additional need for social validation, wealth, relationships and sex for normals. It's not many who can say they aren't satisfied with any of those things. I don't find life particularly compelling either, but, again, I just try to kill time and make the best of it. Not much else you can do in this sort of position, outside of just killing yourself being one option.

 No.244966

>>236025
>I think people often misunderstand what it is they really want to do. They think they want to do some thing, but in reality they don't really want to do it. What they really want to do is whatever it is they actually do. People confuse wanting to do things for real and imagining what they would want if they were a different person. The latter one is where you get into trouble. People start imagining themselves all different and think of the possibilities and they can imagine all sorts of great things, but the truth is you're not going to be that person. Whatever is stopping you from doing those things is just a part of your personality. When people can accept that they stop feeling so terrible about themselves all the time. Hollywood and society meme everyone into thinking they have to be some bigshot financial success by being a wage slave and buying a bunch of stuff, and it's true that the average person will treat you differently based on these things, but there's no reason you need to jump through hoops just so dumb normalfags will clap and pat you on the back. Plenty of people don't give one shit about that crap and can just live and be happy.

Great post and should be shared again

 No.246336

Hiki is mainstream now because the virus.

 No.246420

My room is the only one that has access to the balcony and I just recently realized how useful that is.
When it's cold I can store food there so i dont have to go to the fridge, and I can make a compost pile so I dont have to leave my room to clean up as much. Also I can easily empty out piss bottles and other liquid trash I need to get rid of at night.
I don't know why I never thought of doing all of that before, makes life so much easier

 No.246421

>>246336
Yes I've been hikiing for a month now

 No.246464

>>246420
Lol you throw your piss jugs off the balcony
Where do you live, Victorian England?

 No.246474

>>246464
no of course i dont throw them off. I pour them out on the compost pile

 No.246516

>>246474
A civilised piss-jug keeper, that's what i like to see.
Do you sometimes smell the bottle?

 No.246559

>>244790
>there isn't any virtue in being a selfless retard that doesn't are about his own well being
In case you have not noticed that is what most of the world is, filled with selfless retards except they are proud of it. Don't feel bad about just living for your own sake.

 No.246560

>>244873
>Not much else you can do in this sort of position, outside of just killing yourself being one option.
By wage slaving you are doing a favor for the world.
By killing yourself you are doing a favor for the world.
By continuing to exist without working and not feeding into what the world demands from you is the only way to live and win.

 No.246563

>>246560
I… can't argue with that logic.

 No.246565

>>246560
>By wage slaving you are doing a favor for the world.
Most jobs are actively damaging and fund wars via taxes etc.

 No.246569

>>246565
Who is to say war is bad?

 No.246571

>>246569
He's actually a warlock type and didn't mean as a bad thing, on the contrary. Keep up.

 No.246602

>>246516
ah, i see you're a normie tourist who just wants to see things that are abnormal to you.

 No.246611

>>246602
If i wanted to see something abnormal, i would just take a screenshot of your webcam, zing!

 No.246612

>>246569
War was good for 12,000 years but then in the last 30 years now it is bad

 No.246618

>>246612
War is good if it gives transcendental meaning. Today's wars do not.

 No.246622

>>246618
IS has entered the chat

 No.246623

>>246622
Unironically that is a good example. They came too early though, in our time the current system has enough technology and manpower to keep such over revolts in check. It won't for very long, we can all see it now. The future ultimately belongs to those who are willing to fight and die for it. The inertia of a civilization that only wishes to remain cannot overcome the power of will and of a people who find a greater purpose in taking over.

 No.246630

>>246623
So what will be the breaking point then?
When IS get better technologists than we have and fight the battle in cyberspace instead?

 No.246639

>>246611
>take a screenshot of a webcam
okay…

 No.246998

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>>246559
>Don't feel bad about just living for your own sake
but that thinking is why everything sucks.
and freedom is scary.
in any case i think it might be too late for me and even if isnt theres only so much that can be done through willpower alone.
i want a time machine, i'd make a deal with the devil and march through hell for four hundred years to get another chance at life, with less shitty genes, acceptable physical health and other decent stats.

 No.247222

>>246474
Urine is bad for plants and soil. If you actually care about creating compost of reasonable quality you should stop pouring your piss bottles into it.

 No.247248

>>246560
>By wage slaving you are doing a favor for the world.
>By killing yourself you are doing a favor for the world.

>By continuing to exist without working and not feeding into what the world demands from you is the only way to live and win.

By consuming you are also helping the economy by giving money/views/attention to certain media. You are helping society then too.

Only way to REALLY win is go maximum monk mode and not interact with society at all.

Also being an arsonist could help (but NEETs prob don't have the confidence for that).

 No.247255

>>246998
>but that thinking is why everything sucks.
No not really. Most of the awful shit that occurs in the world is because someone was living for someone else's sake. Soldiers dying in battle, people wageslaving to support others, groids pining after other groids, etc.

 No.247302

>>247222
urine can be dilluted into a fantastic fertilizer

have you never pissed into an area of your yard and watched it become green and vigorous. plants love piss

 No.247309

>>247302
Every area of my yard I piss into becomes brown and dead. I do drink coffee excessively so the acidity levels of my piss are very likely to be quite high.

 No.247407

>>247248
>Doesn't even mention Uncle Ted mode

 No.247408

>>247309
It's because you have that radioactive hikkipiss
Not even the plants want us..

 No.247440

>>247309
same, I also eat so much salt I can make pickles in my pee

 No.247459

>>247309
well you have to dillute/water it in or have it rain soon. just straight peeing on plants without water afterward is too much. in general though it is a great fertilizer

 No.247461

>>235940
Can anyone tried piss drinking?
I heard it was a cure for many ailments in the past

 No.247473

>>247461
sounds like the kind of shit that gets reposted here by some poor sucker every once in a while
>"drinking urine a potential cure for depression, scientists find"
>"pee: the next superfood?"

 No.247479

>>247461
Don't drink your piss. It's quackery.

 No.247482

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The thing is, its not like I want to actually live like this and that I don't want a job. I have had job experiance before and have made a fair amount of money while doing so directly from my dads friends connections. It was bassically all yard work and occassional insolation work but me actually working was always very inconsistent and sometimes I would end up waiting two weeks at a time for my next opportunity to do side jobs. I mean I'm so sick and tired of being a burden on my parents and having nothing because I refuse to ask anything from them. Which is exactly why I'm currently posting on a shitty ass phone and not on my computer that currently has a hard drive problem. I have in fact applied to dozens of places with help wanted signs or help wanted in the newspapers. Who the hell is going to hire me after such a long employment gap? I feel like my only way out is to end it all at this point.

 No.247483

>>247309
>he thinks it has to do with acidity levels
Lol it really doesnt. It mostly has to do with your piss being very salty that actually dries out the soil.

 No.247486

>>247461
sure it is
remember to eat your bugs and avoid soap too

btw don't brush, I heard a little plaque is good barrier against more cavities

 No.247487

>>247486
What bugs?
I already avoid soap so no problems there
If i don't brush, my gums start hurting, so that's not so good advice

 No.247489

>>247487
it's not? but muh studies show….muh experts say

what are you, a science denier?

 No.247495

>>247489
Take your shitty bait elsewhere faggot. He is saying brushing his teeth is good which you’d be hard pressed to find a dentist who disagrees.

 No.247502

>>247495
he's also wondering about drinking pee and admitting he avoids soap, which you'd be hard pressed to find a medical doctor who agrees
>bait
there's nothing wrong with baiting people spouting these dumb internet health memes, unless you think there's some solid basis to drinking pee that's above discussion

 No.247606

>>247502
I avoid soap but not washing with a hard scrub retard
Noone here cares for your bait go back whence you came

 No.247611

>>247606
he still posts here? hello Noone

 No.247612

>>247611
trash level responses as expected, guess i'm as culpable for lowering myself to your idiocy

 No.247613

>>247612
well, if you wanna use that funky spelling then you're asking for it

 No.249998

>>235940
Used to be hiki video porn addict and i honestly had fun, i would never get bored
Now i'm medicated and sociable but i can't say i'm particularly happy, i'll go back living off meds when i live alone

 No.249999

lol sociable

wizchan 2020

 No.250034

>>235950
Like every Anglo-Jewish colony…

 No.250325

another good thing about being neet for life is I don't gotta suffer hearing the nigtarded made up names that idiotic fucking gen-Xers gave their little shits… things like "zara"

I just found out there are succubi out there named "zara", whatever the hell that's supposed to be

imagine being out there in the world with a job and co-workers/colleagues etc and needing to address them by their retarded fake names like zara and jax and sephiroth

I'd fucking kill myself

 No.250331

I'm going to be leaving NEET life soon and completing my undergraduate degree. I'm 27 now and need 2 years to graduate with a useless degree (philosophy). I'm doing this to satisfy my parents and get money from them to avoid getting a job. All the jobs I've had were horrible and low pay, and the cost of living in my area is very high so I couldn't support myself. My parents are somewhat rich but don't trust me with any money unless I complete college, even though I have told them for many years I don't want to and only have had bad experiences in school.

Originally my plan was to have them pay rent for an apartment near the college, and then not attend any classes and live as a NEET for a few years and then kill myself, but due to Covid everything is online so I'm still stuck living with them.

 No.250341

>>247248
Wage slaving does not favour anyone really. The corrupted wagecucker gets only more corrupted, you suffer and the system remains crappy.

The thing is to have a company with only associates and no employees at all, therefore the profit gets divided in fair proportions. Every employer who doesn't do this has been taunted by the possibility of wagecucking others

>>236665
This is what happens when you intend to run a path that is not done for you, rejecting your unknown chances. It is a wasted life not because of failure, but because of believing that was designed to go after things that were not what he really needed. A path of ignorance.

You have desires. Yet they remain cloaked under the fog… your only chance is to solve the fog, to live stuck to it, it is your closer friend that will never let you away. It is, however a toxic one, would you help him instead? Help him to disappear…

The reduction of the fog. https://wizchan.org/dep/res/223376.html#224312

 No.250374

>>250325
It's a spanish name you utter ignoramus, try being less glaringly retarded, it's blinding

 No.250375

>>250341
What is worse, bacon and eggs for breakfast or milk and cereal? It's really my only two options

 No.250376

>>250341
What if wagecucking exists as a vortex that mind-warps you?
It's hard to escape because so many peoples attention is one it, billions of people praying the the god of money makes a difference energetically, do you agree?

 No.250424

>>250374
not when it's on a white g1rl in 2020, whose best friends are named luxx and tayzia, then it's just the moron white version of blacks naming their g1rls shan'iqua

 No.250430

>>250325
I went to a a restaurant a couple years ago and the mulatto that served me was named nike "like the shoe", his words

 No.250434

>>250430
Why do you have to call us mulatto just say biracial how hard is that!!

 No.250435

>>250424
Why do you care so much, unless you are trying to meet and talk with them?

 No.250443

>>250435
Dunce. I said it's an advantage of neetdom that I don't need to meet and talk with these living cartoon characters.

Imagine being around zoomers with fantasy names all day. Lol. Poor wagecucks.


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