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 No.253210

I kind of wish people gave me more straightforward Machiovellian advice when I was growing up. And I wonder how much of the advice I got from when I was younger was actually encoded doublespeak. "Follow your dreams" actually meant, "Just try to get a high-paying job, but make sure you got that 'This is my passion' speech down pat for employers," or "Be honest with people about your interests" actually meant, "Make people THINK you genuinely share interests with them." Or "Happiness is the most important thing in life," really meant, "You'll be more likely to receive favors, offers, and resources from people if they think you're happy."

It makes me wonder whether all that "Just b urself" advice I received was actually a dog whistle or code. Like those who could figure out it was complete bullshit and that they had to pretend and also pass on the lie were the same ones who got an advantage from it. I wonder how my life would have gone differently if I just completely embraced the Machiovellian mindset that everyone is trying to use everyone else.

I don't know, sorry for the shitty blogpost and crabthoughts.

 No.253212

Do you hold any ill will or disdain towards "waifufags"?

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 No.253215

dunno about machiavellianism but everything about growing up would've been easy if they taught hard-nosed cynicism in schools,…I imagine by really grizzled old men who dgaf and only take the job because they're paid literally a million dollars to stand there and tell you how shit life is, don't trust anyone, always assume the worst intentions, friends are just parasites, your parents really don't love you and you're just an accident of their lust, politicians are all liars, the jews hate you

that sorta thing

better to learn it all sooner than later and pay the price

 No.253217

Screw everything I wrote in my OP. This explains it so much better, thanks.

 No.253218


 No.253257

I was raised by hippy communists and the value system wasnt appropriate for my life. I sometimes think of it in crab terms that if I was socially/interpersonally valuable those values are backed up by actual positive responses you just don't focus on them, but still get them. I find it hard to escape the empathy, caring, and honesty focused worldview and when I can feel manipulative it feels dirty.

I bet I would have been happier raised with cruel values in a world that doesn't really like me.

 No.253261

>>253210
I take no claim that what I write is universally correct, but from my own observations so far I would dare to say:

>I kind of wish people gave me more straightforward Machiovellian advice

While it is true that our society is made so that sociopaths and psychopaths can prosper, nobody can openly admit this.
It would mean that society as a whole admits that our system is morally corrupt and only the "bad" people can be the most successful in life.
So we pretend that everything is sunshine and flowers.

>And I wonder how much of the advice I got from when I was younger was actually encoded doublespeak.

it was a series of shit tests. They tell you that you should not do something to see if you have the courage to break the rules to get shit done.

>"Follow your dreams" actually meant, "Just try to get a high-paying job,

no it really meant to follow your dreams however stupid they might sound to others.
because when you do what you love, you will naturally excel in it and reach high levels in it

>but make sure you got that 'This is my passion' speech down pat for employers,"

>or "Be honest with people about your interests" actually meant, "Make people THINK you genuinely share interests with them."
here you are wrong again. most people have passions. Normal people. (Normalfags). They love something for whatever reason.
To you it might sound stupid when someone risks their life filming sharks or something but for that person that is what makes him feel alive.
I think it is a general problem here that people simply have no real interests. No, consuming media is not an interest, it is a pasttime.

We can debate about this but my oppinion is that most of us had something in our development gone wrong where the parts of our minds where you develop a personality, a genuine personality with traits and interests, has never occured. Be it childhood trauma, bullying or overprotective parents whatever. Just the transition phase that the people called "normalfags" have, where they go from being a child into becoming an autonomous adult with own tastes, interests and goals in life to achieve. I feel like overprotective parents play a big role in this problem. If you tell a child his entire life what to do, when to do it and how, what profession he has to learn or what subject to study. How can he have a personality when he just does whatever mommy and daddy say to do?

>Or "Happiness is the most important thing in life," really meant, "You'll be more likely to receive favors, offers, and resources from people if they think you're happy."

No, happiness is indeed the most important in life. What use is a well paid CEO job if you hate the living guts out of the suits you see everyday.
So quit that job and become patato farmer in patagonia. Or wildlife rescuer in Florida or whatever you like doing.
And the other thing about happiness or rather optimists is, nobody wants to be around pessimists. If you only see bad things coming, you are like a raincloud to everyone else. You make them feel bad and they naturally avoid you. They feel like you are dragging them into the abyss with you.

>It makes me wonder whether all that "Just b urself" advice I received was actually a dog whistle or code.

no, it is meant honestly but to people like us, it is completely useless because we have no personalitites. we cannot be ourselves because we are no autonomous persons. we have no personalities, no souls some would say. This is why we cannot talk to people because our interests are superficious most of the time and we have no interest in talking about them. Meanwhile normies can talk endlessly about the stuff that interests them because they genuinely love it. You know that saying that goes
>/v/ hates videogames
it really is that way. If they loved games they would play them, write blogs about the ones they loved or do youtube content about it.
Instead they shit entire day on games they hate on /v/. Whatever thread you look at there is at least one hater there to trashtalk it.
I think that in general what unites normal people is their love (positive feelings) towards something
While we (the misfits on obscure cartoon forums) unite about what we hate (negative feelings).

>Like those who could figure out it was complete bullshit and that they had to pretend and also pass on the lie were the same ones who got an advantage from it.

like I said, it is a form of shit-test where they test if you have the guts to break the rules. Like when normie parents tell their normie kids:
>son, tonight you are back home from that party at 11 o'clock
imagine their reaction if little johnny really came back at 11:00
>oh look, he really came at 11, what a faggot, did he not find a succubus to spend the night with
>he doesn't even reek of booze, oh god I hope my son is not a faggot
to me it feels that layer of "doing the correct thing" is just a formality so they can later say
>but we told you the right advice according to society code of conduct
>we are good parents


>I wonder how my life would have gone differently if I just completely embraced the Machiovellian mindset that everyone is trying to use everyone else.

You would probably end up as some Wall Street goon, raking in millions of dollars by scamming losers on the stock market
but would that make you genuinely happy? would that make you a completely different person?
You know after your 2nd yacht and 23th ferrari there is not much to blow your money on other than cocaine and hookers.


>>253257
my parents literally told me at times
>no worries son
>if anything goes wrong, government will take care of everything
government does not give a flying shit about you as a person. They only care about you when it is about extracting ressources (tax money)
Otherwise their mantra is
>just go be someone else's problem, kid
Life is ruthless and you either adapt or you get destroyed by those who are ruthless

 No.253286

>>253261
Do you really think that happiness is at all sustainable? And don't weasel out into some bullshit weird/Aristotlean definition of happiness. I mean the kind of definition of happiness a 4 year old would give you.

 No.253298

>>253261
In my PERSONAL OPINION, this reply lacks a lot of the foundations that would make a reply substantive and constructive. Namely the fact that it uses opinion based on outlying examples and also subjective appeals.
take that you modshits

 No.253330

>>253286
>Do you really think that happiness is at all sustainable? And don't weasel out into some bullshit weird/Aristotlean definition of happiness. I mean the kind of definition of happiness a 4 year old would give you.
So anon
Do you remember when you were 4 years old?
That gameboy you wanted? That toy car? The power rangers action figure? Or the new LEGO set?
When daddy and mommy give to you what you wanted what happens after that?



After 2 weeks the thing they gave you is not fancy enough. You want something new.
The desires of humans are infinite. This is the internal flaw of us that makes happiness impossible. And usually it is a trait that gets to express desires for more complex and more impossible things the more someone has:
>oh god
>life is so boring
>after my 34th ferrari that I trashed, what else can I do
>can I get an Apache chopper from the US army and moan down insurgents in Iraq?
>that would be fancy
>or maybe I should buy land on the moon so I can build a hotel there
>that would be cool
>I already snort a line of the length of the 5th avenue every month, I cannot snort more coke or I will drop dead
>life is so shit tbh


In economics they teach that the desires of humans are infinite.
How can you be happy if you want infinite stuff? If nothing is ever good enough? If things get boring after time?
Therefore I would argue that happiness is not sustainable. Humans feel the need to constantly seek new thrills no matter how good they have it or how well perceived their position might be.


>>253298
it is because there is no simple reply you could give to OPs question

 No.253336

>>253330
Don't
>Therefore I would argue that happiness is not sustainable. Humans feel the need to constantly seek new thrills no matter how good they have it or how well perceived their position might be.
And
>No, happiness is indeed the most important in life. What use is a well paid CEO job if you hate the living guts out of the suits you see everyday.
>So quit that job and become patato farmer in patagonia. Or wildlife rescuer in Florida or whatever you like doing.
Contradict each other?

 No.253395

>>253336
well there is a difference in not getting some thing you always wanted and being stuck at some job daylong where you hate every single living second of it



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