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Saying that the wisconin vote wasnt fraudulent is rediculous when trump had the lead before the mail in ballots started being counted. Dont even @ me


You think you're laughing now but once when it gets to the republican majority highest supreme court, you wont be laughing anymore. They will reject every ballot count that we were denied to see. Just like with Abraham Lincoln in Gettysburg, you will be btfo


I kinda wanted Trump to win just to see the shitstorm but I'm sort of relieved he lost because I was getting tired about everything being about Trump one way or the other.

What do you guys think? You think there was fraud? I know that wholr computer glitch thing is pretty suspicious but still


i wanted biden to win but trump won so fuck it all


Trump finally built the wall, around the white house to protect him when they have to drag him out kicking and screaming "BIGLY!!!!"


They clearly used the hammer and scorecard. If you think Nevada and Goergia can go to Biden with record turnout for republicans, then you are fucking insane. You misewell have said that Biden could have flipped kentucky


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It's excellent, I've been impressed with the coherent ideological response from fascists. It's like a huge weight has been taken off everyone. You can see those same historical conditions developing again: where reactionary conservatism and democracy are both discredited in the minds of the people.


There's definitely fraud going on. The media keeps saying "hoax video" "false whistleblower" "online hoax" but the arrests, verifiable videos, and police statements indicate it's anything but a hoax. The PTB did a pretty good job with the election fraud this time, although I have the feeling may have been able to win the election legally if they'd put more effort into it.
That being said if the Republicans were competent enough to rig the election, they would have. It just so happens that the DNC is the party with by far the greatest corporate, NGO, and foreign support at this time.

There's no helping it anyway, either the drumpf team manages to competently use their resources to get the election fraud investigated and prosecuted and America gets another 4 years of literally nothing except the media going batshit, or America gets 4+ years of draconian, unconstitutional laws and collusion with corporate propaganda. Well, we know the one thing Trump can hardly do is be competent so the outcome is fairly obvious.


Bidenbros its really over now, we came so close but now that Trumpchads know we tried to rig the election we're going to be impeached. It wasn't supposed to end like this.


Be very afraid, bidenbro. Trump will be monitoring you very closely until January.


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I don't think that Trump is going to lose.

There definitely was fraud and Trump has shown that he's willing to go to the Supreme Court over this. This definitely was not what the PTB was expecting, most politicians would have rolled over in a heartbeat to avoid the initial burst of bad press.


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I thought about voting Trump but remembered he didn't pardon Snowden


I doubt there was enough fraud to make a difference, I think Trump is just seen as a loser by most Americans and he could only beat someone as terrible as Hillary which sleepy Joe just had to not be, but most people got sick of him, also most of his voters were old boomers who died of covid which they thought wasn't a big deal which swinged things a lot, anyway I'd hate to be a Trump worshiper right now but especially Trump himself, I think he'll neck himself when Obama goes to the next white house dinner with Biden and has the final laugh at one term Trump




So what do you think is going to happen if Trump's legal team successfully proves in a court of law that there was widespread election fraud, all done to Biden's benefit? What happens if they actually prove somehow that the Biden campaign was complicit?



Human error, computer error and just boomers not understanding software/hardware often get mixed up and cause mass hysteria, software has an on/off solvable problem, it's a glitch, people call it russian hacking


Why were 100% of the glitches in Biden's favor then?


You expect me to believe in people who spent 4 years claiming Trump was illegitimately elected by Russian spies, without a single shred of proof to back it up. 4 years, every day.


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pure cohenincidence


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>russian hacking narrative was just a cope for american/indian soydev incompetence


This thread hit the bump limit a while ago.


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1. The most powerful trend predictor, the bellwether districts show that Trump won.

2. One of the most powerful fraud predictors, Benford's law shows fraud in the suspected democratic districts.


3. Most if not all of the fraud signs listed by the BBC have been meet, especially the delay in announcement.




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I truly do hope the fraud is exposed.


>do nothing to stop those ostensibly on your side from ending up in jail
>suddenly demand mobilization

>dey byoke da law
Your enemies don't care, and your enemies include the legal system you're appealing to. Get a grip.



The vote difference in the contested states was ~500 votes then. Not thousands.

Trumps legal claims so far are pretty toothless and poor. The PA stuff is being misrepresented, the "poll watchers" have the same rights as the general public at the vote count ( canvass ). There are a second subset of 2 authorized representatives for each candidate/party who can contest absentee ballots and they have, and I believe had, access to the counting area. The arguments about how the people at the back of the enclosed observing areas couldn't see properly because of social distancing may be upheld but it wouldn't invalidate an election as the parties had access.

For the other elections the parties have a month or two before an election to challenge the electoral roll and absentee ballots to find people who they claim aren't allowed to vote and challenge them to prove they are. The claims of mass fraud would need evidence, which may appear but it hasn't so far apart from isolated claims.

The trump campaign this afternoon had a press conference with poll watchers who were complaining that they couldn't use their phones in the ballot count or could only report concerns to one person. They were unaware they were the legal rules. The pictures of people blocking the windows is because it's against the rules to film the ballot count. It's so weak.


>against the rules to film the ballot count

If this is true that is an absurd rule. I can understand not taking a photo of your vote, but not being able to film the counting is sketch as all fuck.


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Fucking chud

Biden won, fuck trump, can't wait for him to die off


From research it's to protect the secret ballot, so you can't film the identity and ballot being separated and so on. No zoom from cameras allowed etc. This is the reason the general public observers are to be far enough away not to read the information, and the public webcams filming are far away no to see information. News media aren't allowed within the counting area either.

You can't make phone calls either and stuff, I guess it's a bit extreme.


What about the proven instances of dead people voting?


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Sorry but that article has been debunked.


There have been official reports apparently investigating this situation as people have accused candidates of having the dead vote for them in mass fraud since Kennedy.

Here's one with a bit of detail on page 27
>In other words, the Commission, which assigned nearly half its staff of fifteen
>full-time employees for four weeks to comb through archived paper files, found
>strong, positive evidence that the allegedly dead voters mostly were not dead. In
>ninety-five percent of all cases of so-called “cemetery voting” alleged in the 2010
>midterm election in South Carolina, human error accounts for nearly all of what
>the state’s highest law enforcement official had informed the U.S. Department of
>Justice was fraud.
- https://b.3cdn.net/advancement/a33f491f2099720f4c_btm6b8ln2.pdf

The ways people are identifying dead voters through comparing electoral rolls apparently is very inaccurate in identifying dead voters. There are apparently other studies mentioned in this on page 14 you could research the veracity of https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The%2520Truth%2520About%2520Voter%2520Fraud.pdf


the best argument i ever heard against abortion was that, if you can kill your own baby, i can kill other peoples baby. if we suppose it was possible to kill babies in a way other than kicking a pregnant womans stomach (which would become assault), it would be completely legal to go around killing all the babies you wanted.


Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004. Violent charges are doubled if the victim is a pregnant succubus, which should show pretty convincingly that the government considers a fetus a child. Why that logic isn't applied for abortion is pretty beyond me but, hey whatever.

The other wizards here have the same sentiments as me on the subject. It's just a circus going on while bigger issues brew by the wayside. I really do question if a lot of these 'political strifes' like BLM or pro-choice/pro-abortion or whatever is in controversy at a given time are just intentional time-sinks to get normal cattle to pre-occupy themselves with issues that do no greatly affect them.


>which should show pretty convincingly that the government considers a fetus a child. Why that logic isn't applied for abortion is pretty beyond me but, hey whatever.
I think Roe prohibits this logic from being applied to abortion, but I'm not american so I'm not sure
And apparently pro-choicers were opposed to this act:
>The Unborn Victims of Violence Act was strongly opposed by most pro-choice organizations, on grounds that the U.S. Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision said that the human fetus is not a "person" under the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, and that if the fetus were a Fourteenth Amendment "person," then they would have a constitutional right to life


>Is a person when it applies to crime charges.
>Isn’t when it applies to being allowed to live.
I understand the meaning of precedent, however the logic is still completely inconsistent.


I wonder how many people will notice that places where republicans won the local/state elections and house and senate seats somehow have Trump lose by a few thousand votes.

Meaning that ether people on mass voted split ticket which is super unlikely or that something fishy was going on for the presidential election that didn't effect the other elections.

Whatever happens it is certain what side the media will take in the up coming legal battle.


Yeah it's inconsistent in practice but Roe doesn't really affirm or deny whether the unborn is a person, it just prohibits states from outlawing abortion because it's a matter of "privacy" or something like that. So yeah it generates this conflict where one law says that the unborn is a person and the Supreme Court decision says that prohibiting abortion is not allowed


Some here have brought up that they think demographics are destiny and that people vote based on race.

The results of this election show something different.



Yeah, all it takes is for some jurisdiction to charge someone for murder if they abort a child. No state seems to have the balls to do that, though.


Trump isn't right wing, when will you dumb civic nationalists realize that? He's literally a liberal LARPing as a right winger, the reason he gained in nonwhite votes is because he sucks their cock. Releasing thousands of blacks from jail, allowing the highest amount of legal immigration in history, and then offering them 500 billion dollars. The price he paid for that was losing white votes. Demographics ARE destiny, so much so that even """right""" wingers have to dance to their tune at this point. At this point there is no right wing party, just two liberals voting on if all white people should be replaced by 2080 or 2100.


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>you must vote for trump because he's right wing


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>reading comprehension


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Cool. Fascism has been defeated.
Now I can go back to ignoring politics >:)


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I'm going to lose $600 because dems used CIA NIGGER Hammer&Scorecard programs on Dominion voting machines to hack the election.



Even the king/apex of the normies gets in the end, too bad about his admirers and enabler normies though but let it be a lesson to them


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>fucking dick cheney is going to be biden's foreign policy advisor
It's time for WAR goyim.


Trump won.

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