/lounge/ - Lounge

You probably didn't know this but there is a pretty long running thread on /hob/ about this.
You will probably get more positive interactions there.

Posting here will likely just bring out that one hyper anti-weed troll who will just dedicate hours to trying to derail the thread into a anti-drug tyraide.

/thread subject/
why do you do that

>>>/hob/

>>259436
Old shitchan habits die hard

>>259425
I like the idea for this thread, and I’ll let the mods decide if it’s duplicate or not. Anyway, I recently moved back home and weed is legal here so I’ve been enjoying that. It’s the only way I can relax anymore. I’m not currently high or drunk, but I’ll come back and post some rambling when I am I suppose.

very wizardly

I'm high on weed pretty much all the time. I should really take a tolerance break because it costs me so much money.

I want to try most drugs that I haven't already tried that have a reasonable safety profile. I got worried about tor potentially being compromised by the feds owning too many nodes a while back though so I don't think I have any way to get the drugs I want unless I go through legal channels. That means it's basically just ketamine that I might try in the future since they will give you that for depression.

It’s midday and I’m already high. I took a little walk and smoked and now I’m just sitting here reading wizchan. Feeling kinda bittersweet right now.

nothing is legal where i live and the penalties are too severe and high risk for a neet with no income. i dont trust buying stuff online since it still needs to pass through the postal system, and i also dont trust other people or want to buy drugs in person. it makes me sort of butthurt, they sound fun and i wish you all the best with your drugs

I've done pretty much every drug there is. Now I just drink. Do we have an alcohol thread or should I make one?

Best drug I've ever had was pure MDMA, lasts such a long time and the feeling is just fantastic. The best moment of my life was going on a ride like pic related at our amusement park while rolling hard on MDMA. As I leaned forward in my seat, for a split moment thought I had gained the ability to actually fly. A feeling of absolute freedom it was, magical moment honestly.

Otherwise I never got that deep into any drug really, including MDMA despite the fact I enjoyed it so much. The problem with drugs is that they set up a false reality, what is the point from escaping from reality if you can never make it permanent? Even worse is that you are basically incapable of doing anything on them, even posting on imageboards you sound like you lost 50iq points instantly. I know weedfags tend to build such a tolerence that they can function at a basic level anyways, but what is the point then? Might as well just be sober.

>>259614
There is one on hob unless it fell of page 10.

I don't even drink but learned a few things reading it.

>>259614
list all the drugs you have done

>>259687
lol lattermentioned? Making up new words I see

Has anyone here done dipropyltryptamine? The Temple of the True Inner Light uses it as their Eucharist. I have 500 mgs of DPT and tried snorting it, but haven't had much luck. I'm thinking of getting a vape pen or a meth pipe so that I can smoke it.

>>259615
I never tried MDMA

>>259684
Weed, meth, benzos, speed, coke, crack, mdma, lsd, nirtous, poppers, shrooms, heroin, fent, a shitton of different opiates, and like 9 or 10 different research chemicals i dont remember the names… hash, dabs, ghb, salvia, im drawing a blank thats close to all of them

>>259684
>>260357
Various pharmaceuticals (jewpills) ssri and antipsychotic mostly. Ambien and various sleeping pills. Kratom. Hydrocodone and pretty much every pain paill and opiate you can name. Theres still more i'm sure…

>>259425
I use too much weed. Besides that, I'd like to find a source for 4-ACO-DMT - I tried 100mg earlier this year and enjoyed it quite a bit, as a shorter alternative to acid at least, but the source went bottoms up right when I went to re-order. Bummer. Where do you all get your RCs outside of the darknet these days? I order to US.

>>259425
yes i'm a little high right now. it's going away tho, i smoked some cannabis wax earlier.

>marijuana at age 14

>marijuana extract (oil/wax)

>want to try some shrooms. possibly dmt, if i ever feel like it. i have already tried lsd.

>>259425
>weed 12
>weed, boutta do my bi-hourly(or further apart generally) roll-up
>weed (ultimately being facetious here but) really want to try different strains, as I have been limited to soapbar mostly living in norther europe
>fuck making trip reports, the intellectualization of your experience inherently negates it; at least in my opinion.

weed has become my humble companion, we're together at every wake it seems. whatever separates us; the distance between us and the magnetic force that pulls us back together always seems to create an impact, that creates a profound impact of my opinions of this substance.
would it be gone one day, I would miss it dearly.

on a side note I would like to smoke less. just so I can actually use weed more ceremonially and have increased spiritual benefit, boiling it down, it really is just to get more high.

Ahh drug thread nice to see one. I remember there was one thread on /hob/ but it was pretty dead. Anyways I am functional semi heroin addict. I usually binge for a week then stop, go through withdrawals, use other drugs instead of heroin like amphetamine, psychedelics, benzos to fill in the void, then after a week or two when I feel god go back on heroin again. It kinda sucks doing it that way but hey I am not at least completely addicted and I am not injecting.

Also like doing speed/coke. Like stimulants way more than downers but the lack of sleep just makes my wagelslaving even worse. Wish I had access to internet drugs but there isn't a single vendor here where I live and I won't risk it with international shipping.

>>261470
Does it have a visible effect on you or do you still look normal?

>>261471
Excluding pinpoint eyes I look as normal as anybody else on heroin. When I am going through withdrawals I might look fucked up/wasted but I can brush it by just saying I am tired. I live with my parents and my job requires talking with people so I think it's pretty undetectable.

>>261481
are you the same improveshit that posted this >>>/wiz/175713

anyway stop posting that kind of facile judgemental garbage please, and i say this as someone who doesnt take drugs.

>>261485
I thought it was just a silly comic.
t. guy who likes his drugs.

>>261485
There is nothing worse then when retards feel the need to be loudly offended on other people's behalf.

>>261485
no I'm not, I haven't been to wiz to years and ain't clicking that, and the cartoon says it all

>>259425
Make a thread without a gay little template and I might participate

>>261794
Your participation is nether wanted or needed.
Bye bitch.

Holy shit, this entire thread makes me wonder why people even do drugs. Just stick with drinking alcohol.

>>261806
I used to just drink beer whenever I could. It eventually have me gout, so I have it up.

I switched to weed. I prefer it's high over beer inebriation. A little cheaper, too. I have no interest in trying anything harder, nor do I have friends/connections to

drugs are for pussies

>>261806
what man
LSD is awesome

>>262521
So he eats cereal, smokes cigs, weed and drinks vodka at the same time?

>>262559
he probably threw all of that into the trash after he was done taking that quirky picture for upvotes.
the 4chan comment is just as stupid to be honest.

>>262521
Having a twisted neck from looking down upon a tablet is not a twist I would want to get from my chill sessions.

>>262521
I haven't had fruit loops cereal or any cereal in so many years, I remember I loved eating them and used to finish one box in one sitting, that's how much I loved them. I'm going to buy some tomorrow, just looking at that picture brings good memories I want to experience again. I wonder how many other good things from my childhood I stopped doing.

>>262564
>the 4chan comment is just as stupid to be honest
A lot of people there love to pretend they're above the usual redditor and that they don't like consuming media and bein generally indulgent. There's actually a huge overlap in reddit-4chan users, I don't know why they keep trying to deny it.

>>262665
A redditor and a 4tard are basically one and the same

>>262530
this

I never understand why people love cereal so much. I was always a Pop tart kid kek.

>>259768
>>259425
>Anyone on drugs
15mg of adderall, my usual dose, relaxing.
>first drug/how old
1650ug of LSD, 18 years old. I was straight edge before, I felt that if something didn't change, I'd kill myself and soon. The LSD helped me see my own life in a unique and not to sound cliche, spiritual way. It was very pleasurable but also insanely terrifying.
>what drugs do you want to try
There's no new drug I want to try. Most research chemical experiences have been bad, though MXE is my favorite drug of all time, it's not around much anymore and DMXE is NOT an MXE replacement.
>trip report
There's a lot of trips I've had. I'll say that a lot of them have been bad, my last real intense psychedelic/dissociated trip was DMT and 2FDCK. It was beautiful and awful but more awful then beautiful. It felt like every cell in my body was being torn out and I was dying and being reborn each second, I was dissociating from the experience on 2FDCK in a unique way, it wasn't a breakthrough experience which made it much worse.

My ego was still there. I was still walking around in my home, experiencing what felt like subjective eternities of incoherent hell, it wasn't DMT by itself that caused this, it was the mixture - but it's made me afraid on a much deeper level to take large doses of psychedelics like I used to. For a little while, I thought I was going insane, I think I ended up getting some degree of PTSD for a good while from that experience. Maybe that sounds laughable to some, I was locked somewhere in my mind, repeating the same actions, dying and being reborn, I felt what could only be described as heaven for a little while but mostly hell. My belief during the experience was heaven and hell DOES exist but it's here and now, in each present moment. I understood that karma was a very simplistic cause and effect relationship, that you can't hide your own karma. I felt that every thing that's happened to me in my life was a result of this.

For anyone that's bothered to read this long writeup, I'd recommend looking into Buddhism and practicing meditation daily. It's a helpful philosophy that has made my life much more fulfilling, even though my life itself hasn't changed too much. There is scientific backing for meditation, which helps you build up parts of your brain that helps you regulate attention and mood. Alan Watts and Thich Nhat Hanh are good introductions to Buddhism, you can find lectures of them speaking on YouTube and they're very relaxing. For reading, I'd recommend as a complete beginner "Zen's Mind, a Beginner's Mind" by Shunryu Suzuki. Another good book is Ajahn Geoff's Dhammapada: A Translation for a genuine look into Buddha's teachings. You can find these books for free by going to zlibrary.

>>259768
Yeah, I tried it before. It felt very chaotic and every time I snorted it, I was incredibly horny and would have to masturbate. My head would feel like it was buzzing but simultaneously, no matter the dosage, I always felt like I was in a stupor. There was greater immersion, there was beautiful patterns - but overall, I felt incredibly daft. It wasn't like traditional psychedelics where you typically feel like you should take care of yourself and others, it felt sort-of destructive. I had little self-control and would do anything immediately pleasurable, no matter how degenerate, no matter how disgusting - and I felt like a complete idiot doing it. It was in a sense, like weed.

>>259684
Ayahuasca, DMT, DPT, LSD, mescaline, psilocybin, 1P-LSD, 25C-NBOME, 25I-NBOME, 2CB, 2CC, 2CE, 2CI, 2CP, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-DIPT, 4-HO-DPT, 4-AcO-MET, 5-MeO-DMT, AL-LSD, DiPT, DOB, DOC, DOM, ETH-LAD, Ibogaine, LSA, MDA, 2FDCK, 3-MeO-PCE, 3-PCP, 4-MeO-PCP, DXM, Diphendine, DCK, ketamine, methoxetamine, O-PCE, Datura, DPH, Amantia muscaria, 2-FA, 4-FA, A-PVP, amps, caffeine, cocaine, hexen, MDMA, MPDV, meth, adderall, mexedrone, NEP, nicotine, alp and flualp, codeine, heroin, etizolam, fent, GBL, GHB, hydrocodeine, kratom, O-DSMT, phenibut, tramadol, zolpidem, choline, armodafinil, flmodafinil, modafinil, colouracetam, creatine, nooglutyl, noopept, oxiracetam, piracetam, cannabis.

Favorite disso: MXE
Favorite psychedelic: LSD
Favorite stimulant: Adderall
Favorite depressant: O-DSMT
Favorite nootropic: Nooglutyl
Favorite delirant: none, delirants suck lol

My favorite drug is MXE, followed by ketamine. I've tried a lot of drugs, I'd say I've had more bad experiences then good ones. Stay safe out there, buy a test kit, don't do anything that's damaging to your brain long-term at least.

>>259425
im on alcohol (35%) i would like to have nice drugs but am a poorfag without connections

420 soon.

>>265813
I find it odd you enjoy LSD before all those other amazing psychedelics. To me LSD is always just a sterile head-trip, whereas tryptamines like mushrooms and 4-AcO-DMT in particular are whole body experiences. 4-AcO-DMT is my personal favorite. Waves of ecstasy constantly rolling across the body paired with several dimensions of very crisp and clear visuals extending infinitely throughout the visible universe

>>266387
So what

weed vaporizer
Sitting feels weird, eyes are somewhat dry, mental functions slightly impaired, can't feel anything else different.

SHOW
Season 4
Episode 20
It's a marijuana-themed episode

>>259615
There is no true reality, our brains are always full of chemicals. Your reality changes based on how depressed you are too. Having a nice and interesting change of reality is incredible regardless of how long it lasts; the memory is real and will stay with you too.

>>259615
That's why people fought bloody wars and did all sorts of shit in history.

So they could alter their personal circumstances to create a little heaven in the harsh physical reality around them.

A mansion, a castle, with personal chefs, entertainers etc.

People who couldn't, died young or went insane. Enjoying life while sober takes either plenty of money or a lot of social contacts, but usually the latter alone isn't enough as Latin American countries have shown.

Other than (self) medication, my main has been LSD for some time now. It's a great drug, it has some intense mind and eye effects, but what really feels amazing is the day after. Most drugs have a comedown period that leaves you exhausted and or miserable but the day after acid is warm and fuzzy and feels so natural. At this point I prefer the afterglow over the main effect: the high is unpredictable and goes in all sorts of places, but the afterglow is always pleasant and tranquil. There's a calming, balanced sort of feeling in the day afterward that's subtle, low intensity, but also undeniable happiness. Relatively low risk to acquire and I've also heard that it helps with lack of empathy and alcoholism.

>>270150
I also came to that conclusion years ago. Practically all the wars and conflicts were so that a couple nobles could create sanctuaries for themselves on this planet in the form of manors and castles.
They wanted to make a safety bubble amidst all the mud, chaos and hell.

People who couldn't, compensate with opium, alcohol and all kinds of stimulats to escape the fact they're constantly stuck in hell every morning they wake up and every morning they go to sleep.
Only the very rich and the nobles were able to escape hell and create sanctuaries with bearable realities that necessitate no drugs or stimulants to be bearable.

>>270148
just because drugs melted you off your nut so bad you can't tell the difference between real and fake doesn't mean there's no objective reality

>>270160
drug use and booze were common among nobility in every culture, everyone in society viewed a drug habit as a mark of nobility because being able to support a drug addiction evidenced great personal wealth, and they did it to show off, they weren't teetotalers

>>270189
What makes you think you can see it?
Isn't some insects reality more objective because it doesn't have emotions fogging his mind and it has a wider specter of vision?

>>270190
Not in the anglosphere. Opium dens became places for the less than working class, the underclasses.

Those addicts were willing to kill for their next fix just like modern drug addicts.
China waged an entire war against Great Britain to stop them from enslaving more Chinese with opium.

>>270301
Opium is different. Every culture had/has drugs that are socially acceptable and those that are demonized. In the west tobacco and amphetamines were the high class drug of choice.

>>270190
Prove it.

>>270302
I wouldn't say tobacco is, or ever was a "drug".

It's a stimulant in the same vein as coffee. Coffee was once so incredibly expensive only nobility could afford it. Doesn't make it a drug though.
Coffee only became affordable to the masses in the early 1900s.

>>270347
I’m gonna have to ask you what constitutes a drug then, cause I think just about everyone would say tobacco is one. Stimulants are a class of drug.

>>270321
Show me a single successful person who isn't tweaked out of his mind. There aren't any.
You cannot achieve such feats as they did without substances to block out your fears and increase your stamina.

>>270353
A huge number of billionaires are teetotallers or barely even drink casually.

Donald Trump for one refuses all alcohol and even insisted on having Coca Cola poured to him in wine glasses at state dinners.

>>270351
Cocaine, heroin, meth are drugs. Psychoactive drugs include LSD, psilocybins etc.

Coffee and cigarettes are not drugs. Nicotine and caffeine can be addicting but they are stimulants. There are even coffee flavored candies marketed for kids or tweens.

>>270357
Why make up your own definitions of words? It makes it impossible, or at least extremely difficult, to communicate.

>>270358
I don't know which country you live in that literally classifies tobacco or coffee as *drugs*.

It surely isn't a known western country. They even sell candy cigarettes here (US).

>>270365
The top picture on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug is literally a cup of coffee

>>270365
Something can be a drug and not illegal.

>>270358
So should we also treat chocolate as a drug since it has theobromine?

Idk, I'm Canadian and I find that notion absurd. Never heard of people using these terms to refer to sweets and candies you can buy off store shelves.

>>270373
Dark chocolate not only has theobromine but a dark bar can have as much caffeine as a cup of coffee.
Though I do agree classifying it as a drug would be insane.

At least in the UK a drug is a substance you have to procure from a pharmacy or a drug dealer. It's not something a six year old buys from a store and eats after school.

>>270376
>>270373
>At least in the UK a drug is a substance you have to procure from a pharmacy or a drug dealer.
100% false, that's not what drug means. Even alcohol doesn't fit these weird preconceptions and everyone knows that's a drug. I don't know how you can think this. Say illegal drug or restricted drug if that's what you're talking about.

>>270376
In everyday language talking about buying a chocolate bar, people aren't think about drugs or chemistry, because drugs are ubiquitous in human life. But there are other conversation contexts… like drug threads

>>270387
?????

>>270388
It's not you druggie fag.

Yeah, alcohol isn't a drug, because otherwise there'd be alcohol addicts and alcohol overdoses.

>>270377
If you ask 100 random people on the street of all ages and ethnicities, I will bet money not more than 1 or 2 will agree with you that chocolate, coffee etc. count as drugs.

The drug I want to try the most now is 2c-b but can't order anything when I live with my mom.
I almost wish I had friends just so I could ask someone to receive a package for me. Now I can't order it until I move out.

>>271541
you should, its fun af

>>271541
>but can't order anything when I live with my mom.
Why?
If she opens packages addressed to you, you're living like a slave piece of shit

>>270444
I will take that bet, want to do 10 BTC and set up an official survey?

>>271546
nigga, you dont have 10 dollars to your name

>>271541
you can get a safety deposit box at the post office

Imagine being as low IQ as trying to order drugs off the internet…

Getting a felony for drug possession is not worth getting high for a couple hours.

>>271566
"progressive" changes to drug laws made it so many substances, especially experimental ones, can be bought with no legal risk to the purchaser, but rather to the seller. The whole "drug users are the victims" thing.

yeah ive been smoking weed a lot for a couple years its pretty chill. i want to just smoke opium like the old school drug addicts but the shit is impossible to find now. anything natural is

>>271566
Imagine being so low IQ that you can't figure out how to do it safely. It is certainly safer than other ways. And you can be high every day if you want + have life-changing experiences without leaving your home

how come marijuana addicts love to use negro slang

>>271595
>>271566
there is basically no smarter way to get it off the deep web. hundreds of reviews on vendors and products. if you have money to throw around you WILL find the most pure and safest products in the world

the problem is USA is cucked and would rather shoot black tar heroin and fentanyl then pay a premium for a cleaner less strong product like pure heroin or opium so everything just gets flooded with shit

i just had a deep web vendor scam me by sending me pgr weed so you gotta be careful if youre buying the cheaper shit

>>271596
How come you try so hard to be a contrarian in a thread about a topic you don't like?

Time to learn about xUnit testing

weed makes you gay

>>271724
is that pecorino-romano?

>>271733
Yes. It really wakes me up

>>271683
how come you never learned what contrarian means

Had some months or even a year in-between where I didn't get a hold of weed, but otherwise I pretty much smoked on a daily basis since university (around 2010). Only occasionally smoked it before, also I drink zero alcohol at home, only in the rare cases where I'm being forced to attend social events and use it more like a drug to relax (always tasted like shit to me).
I'm mixing my weed with tobacco and smoke it through a glass bong since it's much quicker to do while consooming vidya/movies and efficient on your weed. Also never had it affect my work life so far, I obviously just smoke at home since it's illegal here and I don't have any big withdrawal effects other than being in a sour mood, which I am mostly anways. I might die from lung cancer sooner or later but who fucking cares at this point.

>>259615
Also samefagging to agree on MDMA being an absolute blast. I only got to try it on a few occasions since a friend got a hold of it like 10 years ago (maybe for the better, since I probably would take it too often if I had access). One new year's eve we went to the city and he brought MDMA crystals. I don't even really remember what I did that night but we just got crazy drunk in different bars and just vibed so hard, it just feels so good, I'm really glad I never tried anything harder since I probably would become addicted to feeling so free of my sorrows. If you ever get the chance to try it I can only recommend it, there are basically zero risks on a physical dependency as long as you don't take it more often than every 2 months or something.

>>271767
That's funny coming from you.

>>271798
you aren't as smart as you try to sound

>>271796
I did MDMA. It's the best any chemical can make you feel. I listened to this song during the peak.

>>271803
You are simply not smart.

Last night I took MDMA and just sat in my chair with loud electronic music for hours.
It was great. The only problem is that my mom is nearly always home so I don't dare to order more.

>>271817
>no u
and they say marijuana doesn't lower your IQ

>>259425
Does anyone here have experience with antidepressants? Pic related is supposedly good for social anxiety. I heard someone on plebbit say that it turned him into a fearless sociopath. I want to get rid of all these gay emotions.

>>272262
I take 50 mg of one of them (and to preface all this, everyone is different so your experience will necessarily differ from mine). I used to be incredibly anxious in public and when speaking to others was so tense that my body would ache as if it had been put through a strenuous workout; on top of that, I suffered from paranoid delusions. The medication seems to have relieved me of these, or at least taken the edge off (although not entirely–I habitually begin to tense up in the presence of others but unlike before, I can notice and "drive" my emotional state back to the baseline). To paraphrase an anon, "instead of feeling whatever emotions I normally would, I get a 404 'error not found'".

The medication isn't a magic wand that will clear away your problems instantly, since you likely lack the proper habits/regulatory mechanisms which a healthy person has. So, it wouldn't hurt to research mindfulness techniques and work on developing a positive internal monologue.

>>272262
I have severe anxiety and it didnt help at all, just gave me insomnia and made me not able to feel sad, I dont know how to explain it but its like knowing you are sad but not being able to feel it, very jarring, theres definitely better antidepressants, duloxetine was better to me because I only needed to sleep 4 hours a night on it(used a sleeping pill cause it also gave me insomnia) and I felt much more focused and motivated

>>271545
She doesn't open them but if she starts suspecting that I do drugs, I'll have to stop drugs completely to avoid her finding out.

>>271565
They don't have that in my country. They have something similar but from what I read, the police pay closer attention to them than normal mail.

/420/ everyday

>>259425
Is sugar a drug? If so, yes.

>>277281
It's not, but it is behaviorally addictive so some compare it to a drug.
Sort of like gambling or compulsive masturbation.

>>277284
fat fucking gluttons say it is more addictive than cocaine as a way to cope with being a lard ass.

>>277330
I don’t understand why people are so hostile to fat people here, or if it’s just your faggot ass goin off about them every thread.

>>277284
>It's not, but it is behaviorally addictive so some compare it to a drug.

it makes the user fat, sick and ugly and when they consume it, they feel good and when they don't they don't feel good and they want it. clearly that alone is enough to call it a drug.

why do you deny it is a drug, because it is legal and some paid soyentist didn't classify it as such?

If you live in the US for the time being in most states you can legally buy delta-8 thc online and have it shipped directly to your house. I recommend getting the high potency distillates that are ridiculously cheap and are much easier to ship.

You can also find the stuff at almost any head shop or even non-franchise corner stores.

>>277337
not a great idea to use THC without even a small amount of CBD

>>277346
Feel free to explain that stance more thoroughly but just so you know they sell a version mixed with other legal cannabinoids (like cbd) as well.

>>277364
THC gets you high but is also responsible for the negative effects like psychosis. The other cannabinoids allegedly help prevent this and also are therapeutic on their own.

That said I have never had a problem with straight THC.

growing ur own magical herbs is a nice hobby for a wizard

>>277766
how much bud do you end up getting out of two plants? can you smoke or use as much weed as you want growing just this many?

DUDE WEED LMAO

>>277769
It depends on how long you grow it for. Weed plants will keep growing and growing as long as the wavelength of the light doesn't change so you can make them pretty much any size. Over a pound per plant is doable but more typical is about 4 ounces.

>>277769
most plants will either die during flowering or can get covered in mold in a single day, the two plants that survived for me gave me about 50g of weak bud
if i wasn't a euro poorfag i would just buy it instead of growing it myself, outdoor grown weed is some weak stuff

I live in a state where traditional THC weed is illegal so I tend to grab some Delta 8 THC from a shop in my town and get a euphoric high from there. I live in an apartment complex with no porch so I've been resulting to gummies. The ones I've gotten are delicious.

don't fall for the d8 scam

>>277954
fuck you wizza

Not much of a weed guy because it often gives me anxiety but I've come to realize alcohol+weed is pretty great and I don't think I've ever had such restful sleeps