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Anyone has the latest version?
If no, then what could we add to our wizardry?
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 No.266803

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>>266795
I'll pass from this world when God says I can

 No.266804

>>266786

>Surely it had nothing to do with gratifying and defending your OWN ego?


I'm not the one sandwiching in an entire paragraph about my income, savings, financial stability and freedom to engage in hobbies and (of course, one cannot just be content with hobbies), "personal ventures", in between, what basically boils down to an extremely self-indulgent way of saying "have low time preference", propped up by another paragraph about the horrors of low skilled jobs, which billions of people must do anyway, and not by choice.

>It's better to be rich and healthy, than poor and sick

Depends on the trade offs though. If your poverty and sickness come at the end of spending a good 20 years goofing around online, and you're unafraid of checking out early, the hedonic value can be rather high. It's also hard to estimate the gap in satisfaction, between for example, your life, and a NEET's, if any.

>Since we're psychoanalyzing, maybe I can point out how nihilism and pessimism is always just a defense mechanism against uncertainty and potential.

But so is asserting yourself to strangers on the internet, seeking affirmation and status for making "correct" choices in life. It is pretty funny how often people try to leverage their material advantages for social approval and invention of hierarchies that put themselves higher and make them feel better. In evolutionary terms, social capital (approval, adoration and respect of peers) has always been more important than money, being a much older survival factor. Even if we're strangers online and none of this matters, you're still doing it on reflex.

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>>266804
So, on the one hand "it's all the same, all people end up dead anyway" but on the other, you're butthurt because someone described their life? Never mind that I was arguing against someone's point about wageslavery and my personal experience was relevant, I simply had to put the humblebrag in there so I can enjoy the real or imagined approval of my wizzas.

>But so is asserting yourself to strangers on the internet, seeking affirmation and status for making "correct" choices in life.


This is indeed funny, because you're incapable of seeing the projection in this sentence. Why would I need affirmation that I'm making the right choices? Any idiot (including myself) can easily tell that I'm living comfortably. However, you on the other hand needed to write a whole copium essay on how nothing matters and we all end up dead anyway, hoping that some other depressed wizzie was willing to entertain your assertions and make you feel better about yourself, to AFFIRM that you are indeed making the right "choices" and the TRUE winner in this game by simply disregarding most of what humans care about.

Like I said, even a nihilist wipes his ass every morning. At the end of day, no matter what you tell yourself and how much you rationalize, you're suffering and you're not willing to even entertain the idea that you could live in a better reality. Rather than contemplate a path forward, you bravely assert that nothing matters and that this is the best of all possible worlds, alongside a philosopher that lived in a barrel and jerked off in public. You too can be BASED like him, just DECONSTRUCT ALL VALUES bro. Money? Worthless paper currency not even backed up by anything real like gold. Also, economy will collapse any day now. Love? Brain chemicals. Power? Socially constructed hierarchies a.k.a. not real or important. Health? On a long enough timeline, the survival rate is zero. Anime? Ah, now that's the stuff…I kneel, the one true VALUE in the universe. Alright, put it directly into my vein…

 No.266810

Strivers belong in a gas chamber.

 No.266814

>>266810
Don't worry bro, I heard the average human lifespan is like 79 years. They will eventually die and everything they worked for will be lost. Even if they end up enjoying it, well, it evens out, it's all the same, don't worry about it. Here's another picture of Diogenes, he was pretty based amirite? If he was alive today he would be an anime otaku like us.

 No.266821

>>266808
>but on the other, you're butthurt because someone described their life?
Not butthurt, just pointing out that the purpose of starting this discussion, was to describe your life, and how effective you are due to your correct choices. Your posts are about yourself, even under the guise of helping other wizzies.
>This is indeed funny, because you're incapable of seeing the projection in this sentence. Why would I need affirmation that I'm making the right choices?
Because you lack social capital in your life. If your choices are not being validated by others, the primate brain starts second guessing itself. Paying taxes at the end of the year is too impersonal to pass for praise. Material successes are not enough, money is unfulfilling to the norman unless it also translates into status. Hopefully you will "get a couple of wizkids to boss around in code reviews", in a few years, to provide something that fills in the checkbox for social standing, friends and admirers, in the norman mind. Until then, going through the motions of self-validation to strangers online with ideas stolen from self-help articles (muh probabilities, muh possible worlds, wonder which self-help rationalist celeb is that), would have to suffice.
>At the end of day, no matter what you tell yourself and how much you rationalize, you're suffering and you're not willing to even entertain the idea that you could live in a better reality.
How much better are we're talking about here? Life's pretty good already, the things I'm skipping out on are superficial and unfun. A code review sounds like a pain in the ass, to be honest. Miss my better reality with that shit.
>However, you on the other hand needed to write a whole copium essay on how nothing matters and we all end up dead anyway
I'm sorry for alerting you to this distressing fact, but you should know it already.

 No.266823

>>266814
Amazing how Diogenes still triggers normalfags 2000 years later, what an absolute unit.

 No.266825

>>266814
Diogenes was based. Don't insult the wizard king.

 No.266826

>>266821
>If your choices are not being validated by others, the primate brain starts second guessing itself

Indeed. If others are not validating your nihilism, then you start to second guess yourself, what if I went wrong with trying to kill myself off with heart disease? What if I there really is a difference in what you do in life? The economy is gonna collapse any second now, right guys? Pajeets are taking over software development, you might as well save yourself 10-20 years of working in a DEAD END job. Being fat vs not fat? No difference, just normalfag beauty standards *burp*

We can make these kinds of psychological strawman all you want, but at the end of the day, I don't need social validation to affirm my choices. Apparently, my superior life quality is so self-evident, that I can humblebrag nonchalantly. Of course, at the same time, there is nothing really that enviable about my life, no one actually cares about that stuff, but it's still quite irksome for whatever reason, isn't it?

I went into this thread arguing for the simple principal of "improvement", the banal statement that a better reality is better and logically a worthwhile goal. The implication is that I'm defending wageslavery or exercise (the two horseman of the NEET apocalypse) but I'm arguing for something much more fundamental, not any particular method that claims to produce a better reality.

Basically I'm arguing against nihilism and anti-improvement tards are fundamentally nihilists that believe: (a) there is no difference between different outcomes, and/or (b) you can't influence reality anyway.

These discussions always go predictably in the same direction:
If you claim life can be better, then you better demonstrate with mathematical proof that ANYONE can suddenly have a quality life without any kind of effort or sacrifices or lame shit like that. Either no, there is nothing you can do, or there is, but it requires all this pesky stuff that doesn't make it worth it. Fine, it's your life and I don't care much either way to really prescribe solutions, only talk in general ways.

Your tactic is to throw as much shit as you can on me and see what fits. Never mind that I described working in my underwear and jerking off in between tasks, you still found it relevant to post some video made by normalfags mocking some live-for-the-grind lifestyle. At this point, you're not trying to have a discussion, you just need to get those social validation points online (since you lack social capital in real life) and get people to agree with shitty characterization because it helps you more easily dismiss any pesky second-thoughts about your life. Meanwhile, I went into this thread fully knowing I'm going against the grain and that I wouldn't get the luxury of having someone else validate and affirm my ideas. Do you go into a normalfag club and try to argue for being an anime watching NEET? No, you're gonna hit up the discord and get your pals to milk your metaphorical shaft to completion.

>>266823
He's literally baby's first philosopher. Every teenager knows about cynicism and how LAME everything is and how FAKE the adults are while you're a rebel for watching japanese media.

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>>266814
>>266826
Go do your spreadsheets bro. Gotta hustle and grind or you'll be left in the dust.

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 No.266833

>>266830
Go fill in your MyAnimeList ratings bro. Gotta keep them cartoons running or you'll be left alone with your thoughts for several minutes.

>>266831
I liked when he said JOBS. Late stage capitalism, amirite?

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>>266833
My waifus are smiling at me, Norman, can you say the same?

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>>266835
>waifu

How…primitive. I have been married to my tulpa for years now and I can transform her appearance and personality with a single thought. I am having sex with her as we speak and I can multitask because I only need a small amount of cognitive energy to sustain her reality.

Enjoy your flat static drawing while I simulate all 5 senses and destroy your entire world view at the same time.

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>>266826

Not falling for this norman, your frail soul simply lacks the energy for spiritual manifestations of this caliber. But it's okay, you can always trade what's left of it to your boss for a pat on the back and a paycheck, to extend your banal existence. May be in a few dozen lifetimes you'll reincarnate as a higher lifeform (NEET wizard), and you'll finally add another dimension to your personality

 No.266839

>>266821
>Your posts are about yourself, even under the guise of helping other wizzies.
that sums up improvefags rather accurately

 No.266840

>>266837
Gee anon, who knew consuming a particular form of media from a tiny island nation would make you such a unique and interesting individual. Maybe one day I could acquire another dimension to my personality by saving hundreds of pictures of anime succubi and having a thousand watched shows on MAL like you. I mean, there's gotta be like only a dozen people on the planet that can rival your otaku knowledge and nihilistic humor.

 No.266841

>>266840
Straight up facts. You just owned yourself for that wizard. Now THAT's some multi-dimensional chess

 No.266842

>>266841
I kneel. I thought I was dealing with a Crunchyroll shounen watching amateur, but this wiz…you can tell he speedruns VNs and gets the harem sex ending every time.

 No.266843

If you can still improve yourself, you do not belong here

 No.266844

>>266843
wizcrab

 No.266846

>>266844
Crabs are your betters.

 No.266847

>>266846
Inncels are based and truewizards, but being an actual crab in a bucket is not.

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>>266826

>We can make these kinds of psychological strawman all you want, but at the end of the day, I don't need social validation to affirm my choices.

This is what, like your 9th paragraph in this thread defending your honor from filthy NEET reprobates taking it easy in life? Surrrre. Sorry fam, but your imaginary social model in which improvefags should be respected and admired is gonna be a tough sale here.
It should be said that not every person who works to better themselves is an improvefag. They're pretty quiet about it though, gentle in discussion, and simply engage in exertions because they feel like it, or for the love of the craft, without self-fellating or verbal duels with people who don't share their efforts, understanding and accepting of other "possible realities". There is no posturing. There is no need to convince yourself that you are making correct choices (by devaluing others' choices). There is no rumination on missed opportunities. In normalfag terms, they are "just doing it". But they might as well not, our actions are our own. Life is a sandbox with few regulations.

If I have to live my life again, I'll just wing it and take it easy once more, unless there's a worthwhile, or at least entertaining endeavor that's bigger than my transient little being.

Amor fati, my dude.

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I'd rather have time than money, status, fame, influence or power. Tryhards may spend their days chasing these but when their time comes they won't be able to buy even a single additional hour of life.

 No.266876

>>266848
>This is what, like your 9th paragraph in this thread defending your honor from filthy NEET reprobates taking it easy in life?

I know it's hard for you to understand, but I enjoy arguing. I never intended to go into this thread to win easy points and get a pat on the back for my choices from people that are clearly emotionally and ideologically opposed to work. In my opinion, I'm stating the obvious and there's less mental gymnastics needed to justify my position than your standard nihilist copium addict. By position, I don't mean "wageslavery"; if you still don't get it, re-read my shit without projecting an ebil improvebrah boogeyman.

>Sorry fam, but your imaginary social model in which improvefags should be respected and admired is gonna be a tough sale here.


Either you're hallucinating or your English reading comprehension is starting to deteriorate from all the anime fan translations. Next you're going to tell me I demanded a wizchan tax to fund the improvefags?

>HEY GUYS LOOK HOW EASY I'M TAKING IT HAHA I'M BARELY EVEN PUTTING IN EFFORT INTO THIS POST HAHA PLEASE VALIDATE ME


Yeah, ok, bud. This kind of shit is always subjective and unverifiable. I can claim I'm relaxing, you can claim it, at the end of the day, we live with ourselves. In your mind, winning this exchange is about feeling validated in your life choices, I just needed a laugh and something to do during work hours. If I needed validation, I'd invest in a cope mobile and post it on instagram. Instead, I'm humblebragging on an anonymous forum purely for the rush. It ain't it, chief.

>Amor fati, my dude.


I kneel. Only an anime watcher could make all the same mistakes again and go through the same suffering purely for the principle of it. Ironically, quite life affirming. Perhaps I am the last man, living in comfort instead of being hardened by poverty and turbulent emotions.

>>266867
Time to do what? The implication is that if I had the time, I'd be spending it watching anime or playing video games, because this is always preferable to LITERALLY any other rewarding activity. A job is simply an activity that you can get monetary compensation for, but it doesn't imply your subjective experience of it. I regularly binge watch series, get hooked on a game or two, but I can't imagine my life consisting solely of consuming media. Some of these games actually feel like work sometimes because you need to read guides on all the heroes and study the meta if you want to git gud and your teammates yell at you harder for underperforming than any boss I've ever had. Sometimes fiddling around trying to center a div vertically is more relaxing than that shit.

I think the anime watcher's worship of leisure is severely misguided. As the cynical gentleman pointed out, we're all on a hedonic treadmill so relaxation eventually becomes boredom and tedium. Leisure loses its meaning once there is no longer a contrast between leisure and the rest of your life. I'm not saying you should be living the grind, but without some kind of external challenge, your brain won't feel the need to release any feel good chemicals. I've been working from home since Corona-chan started and I'm low key bored out of my mind and running out of stuff to watch, so when I actually get a new task or problem to solve, I cherish it.

 No.266878

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>>266867
>In your mind, winning this exchange is about feeling validated in your life choices, I just needed a laugh and something to do during work hours.
>work hours
>he's been going at it ITT for two days straight
I hope you'll find gainful employment soon.

 No.266879

>>266878
I steal a couple minutes in between editing my spreadshits.

 No.266880

>>266879
Nah, I know autism when I see it. This is the kind of 'tism only possible with prolonged unemployment. Good work (lol), you had us going for a while

 No.266881

wtf mods not even enforcing rule 4 anymore apparently
goodbye comfy neets, hello improvebruh wageslaves

 No.266882

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>>266880
Oh no! My humblebrags don't work if you don't believe them! Nice try but I have TWO jobs and uh, I got them at the, uh, job market where grown ups interview you to be a manager. Also, I drive a car, not a bike or anything like that.

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 No.266893

>>264565
Stoner wizards who play video games and jack off!!! Wizchan 2021 everyone…

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>>266883
Normalniggers do be forgetting to memento their mories, shake my head

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look at you bastards losing your shit over someone having it a little better than yourselves, grow up

 No.266900

>>266898
crabs in a bucket failed normalfaggots should fuck off of Wizchan. Miserable fucks don't want to see anyone happy or doing anything productive with their time.

 No.266903

>>266900
But what about the crabs kicking down other crabs, who like the bucket?

 No.266904

>>266901
You're a crab in a bucket and a failed normalshit. You will respect the wizards on here and their ambitions in life or you will fuck off.

 No.266951

you all sound like a bunch of PUAs and dating coaches

 No.266970

>>266951
They really don't.
Like at all.

 No.267011

>>266904
Non-inncell strivers fuck off.

 No.269049

lol animehurt
lol careerhurt

 No.269055

>>269049
lol trollcope

 No.269136

>>266821
Gotta say, you are the first pessimist I don't mind. Thanks wiz

 No.269943

Improve? I plateau.

 No.269950

>>266835
>waifus
>plural
>calling other normans

 No.269951

>>269950
He’s quoting Skyrim.

 No.269953

>>269951
That's even worse.

 No.269954

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>Improve to become a normalfag
Ascend beyond reason and logic.
Don't improve the blade.
Don't study the blade.
Become the Blade.

 No.270084

>>269954
*SLASH*
But the weapon is useless without will.


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