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 No.278750

What is your sleep schedule like? I am NEET but I get up at 7am every day just on principle. Mostly I’ve heard lots of people that have nothing to do sleep into the noon. But for me I’m a 7 to midnight wiz. Also share sleeping tips or sleep gear that make you sleep better

 No.278752

typically I fuck around til 6am-ish, being a neet with no purpose in life to get up early for, then I have a puny 4 to 6 hours of sleep ruined by nightmares, usually I can't fall asleep so I do controlled breathing and divide my focus equally between that action and whatever thoughts are on my mind keeping me up, somehow it gets me to go unconscious in under a few minutes

 No.278754

Schedule?

 No.278755

>>278752
>I do controlled breathing and divide my focus equally between that action and whatever thoughts are on my mind keeping me up, somehow it gets me to go unconscious in under a few minutes
I think I heard of US navy seals doing that

 No.278757

Everchanging. Mostly I live like days should be 25 hours long, like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep%E2%80%93wake_disorder

 No.278758

>>278757
Is that actually real? So many people have told me they have that and I don't think it could be that common

 No.278759

>>278758
It's somewhat common among the blind and people going blind as well as people who adapted to crazy shifts due to work but can't quite go back to normal sleep schedules even when they don't have to deal with such shifts.

 No.278760

>>278758
I do feel like any doctor wouldnt believe me and just tell me to stop staying on the computer for so long, and go outside more etc. But it's been 10 years since it started. i've tried everything with no success: melatonin with different schedules, alarms, drugs, sunlight exposure, avoiding technology. I think most people with it are wageslaves and just live in constant misery and tiredness, saying they are night owls, because they dont have the freedom to sleep at the natural time their body wants, so it goes largely undiagnosed.

 No.278761

>>278760
> I think most people with it are wageslaves and just live in constant misery and tiredness, saying they are night owls, because they dont have the freedom to sleep at the natural time their body wants, so it goes largely undiagnosed.
Again, its well documented that most people with it are blind or going blind with a minority being people who work shit like consecutive swing shifts with mandatory overtime.
There is nothing to support your hypothesis in any real world observations.

 No.278762

>>278761
How would someone with it who is forced to work 9-5, threatened with poverty and losing their family, ever be revealed in observations?

 No.278763

>>278758
sounds perfectly normal to me, described what happened to me for the last 10 years, just be a coffee addicted neet with internet and it's easy

 No.278764

>>278762
They physically would be unable to sleep or stay awake in the normal rythme needed to keep such a job in the first place.
I don't think you understand what a disorder is.
It's not something you can just choose to not have because it negatively effects your life.
People with non-24 are physically unable to stick to such a schedule no matter how much they would like to or what the negative effects are. They can't just brute force it for the sake of wageslave reasons.
And no, not even the thread ot poverty or losing their family would be enough for them without treatment to be able to follow such a schedule.

 No.278765

A constant struggle of pulling all nighters to fix my sleep schedule only for my insomnia to kick in and ruin it. I'm not even a NEET, I've just gotten used to going to work half asleep.

 No.278768

>>278764
>>278764
>People with non-24 are physically unable to stick to such a schedule no matter how much they would like to or what the negative effects are. They can't just brute force it for the sake of wageslave reasons.
And no, not even the thread ot poverty or losing their family would be enough for them without treatment to be able to follow such a schedule.
Please provide a reputable source

 No.278769

>>278764
How do you think shift workers survive then? People that have to travel to different time zones? All of them have a disorder that makes it possible for them to survive? All humans are flexible to some degree.

If you actually read the literature you would know there are coping mechanisms that people diagnosed with non-24 use to try to survive, but they struggle and there are consequences to their quality of life.

In the earlier message I simply provided a rational hypothesis and you are obviously wrong to reject it since there are no studies to give evidence either way. I don't know why you are being ridiculously hostile

 No.278771

From 4am to about 2pm, it just ended up that way but I do appreciate the serenity of the night.

 No.278773

>>278769
>How do you think shift workers survive then? People that have to travel to different time zones?
By not having a clinical sleep disorder.
>All of them have a disorder that makes it possible for them to survive?
Sentence doesn't even make sense.
You really need to look up what disorder means.
> I simply provided a rational hypothesis
It isn't actually rational and it most certainly isn't logical.
If you you are able live your life totally normally without disruption and no treatment at all, and it isn't in any way from the outside observable then you definitionally don't have a clinical disorder.
Your hypothesis isn't even logical. Using essentially a god of the gaps argument certainly isn't rational.

>>278768
>source
https://www.amazon.com/Sleep-Disorders-Clinicians-Diagnosis-Management/dp/0195389735
I wrote several academic papers on sleep disorders way back when I was in school and still read on the subject from time to time.

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>>278750
7am riser here.

 No.280096

>>278750
It runs longer than 24 hours, so I’m always waking up and going to bed a little later at random hours of the day. I’ve lost arguably most of my jobs over this, and the only time I’ve had a normal schedule long-term was for a few years where I got a lot of exercise and took sleeping pills almost every night so that I could be at work on time.
I’m going back to sleeping pills now just because for whatever reason waking up later than 8 or 9 is heavily judged by normgroids. Also it kind of feels like shit and I’d rather be awake at normal times to try to start getting myself to go outside.



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