What the fuck is wrong with Russia? This war should've been done within a week. It is like they are intentionally prolonging this war.
Evil never prevails.
>>287062>Evil never prevails.
Must be why America hasn't won a war in decades.
We haven’t been in any wars, just minor conflicts
its a mystery how russia can be so dysfunctional and still exist as it is
How is Russia so dysfunctional?
Did they really kill off all the smart people during the Soviet era?
If a million deaths from Iraq is just a minor conflict then Ukraine is far from being a war
>UKRAINIAN MISSILES HIT RUSSIAN SOIL.
damn not the 1st thing i expected to wake up to on wizchan
Meanwhile in Russia>no facebook/instagram or other degenerate social media>no Netflix with its normalfag media>no MacDonalds or other cancerous fast food>no homosexuals or sexual degeneracy out in the open>no gender-theory craziness>no ultra-pc and super-feminist laws>kicked out from all the ultra-liberal events in the West>no BLM riots, anarchy or living in fear because of street thugs
Even before this war, Russia was cool, but now with all the sanctions it's like the US and the West is trying to make Russia into the healthiest nation on Earth, both mentally and physically. I am thinking about moving to Russia and becoming a russian citizen unironically. It's like North Korea but without all the stupidity, it is becoming the last isolated bastion of culture. Russia seems more like Japan to me day by day, a land free from all the brainwashing and rotten mentality of the decadent West. If they had NEETbux there then it would be the most wiz-friendly nation and literally Paradise on Earth.>>287061
Maybe because they never intended to destroy Ukraine and kill off all the citizens like the propaganda machine of the West told us? Maybe because they try to lessen civilian suffering as much as possible? The pictures you see or the news you hear about russians bombing or killing civilians is a distorted version of the truth, Ukraine is doing exactly what Palestine does against Israel whenever they have any sort of conflict: they use ordinary people as meat shields and set up their bases intentionally near kindergartens, schools, hospitals or even in them, directly. They want to show to the West "look at all these children and old people, the evil russians killed them for fun!" Ukraine wants to drag the entire world into their conflict, while Russia wants to win the war without as much damage or needless bloodshed as possible.
Maybe Russia being "dysfunctional" is just MSM bullshit again.
>>287075>Japan to me day by day, a land free from all the brainwashing and rotten mentality of the decadent West
Wtf? Japan is pozzed as fuck, a literal wagecuck country and all the other retarded things the west has except with a bit less niggers on the street.
Stop idealizing a shit country because of anime.
Normals wageslave everywhere, Japan also has a very high amount of NEETs among its population. It is the country of extremes.
Japanese culture still holds up very well compared to western nations against globohomo brainwashing I'd say. Honor and loyalty are still valued highly.>bit less niggers on the street
You put it lightly, the streets are clean, crime is almost non-existent, etc. Should I go on?
Japan gets a lot of hate because of anime haters or contrarians but actually it is a great country all-in-all. I'm not idealizing it because of anime, simply it is a more peaceful country with kind and polite people.
Are you out of your mind? Japan is a wage slave's hell. They literally have a word for dying of overwork. And they are all alcoholics to cope.
And why do you think that they have more NEETs that any other country? Because it's a society of bullies. Polite my ass. They are polite on the surface and only if you are a perfect normalfag and don't stand out in any way, otherwise they will bully the shit out of you.
>>287078>>287078>Japan also has a very high amount of NEETs among its population
Thats only because working there is so fucked up that literally anything else is better, also do you think Japan is some kind of NEET paradise? Have you seen documentaries about the subject? Have you seen the online diary of that 30y/o NEET that killed himself? Being NEET is just slightly better than being a wagie, hell I would say that's equally bad but in a different way.
Japanfags and weebs idealize Japan thinking that if they go there they will be happy permaNEET forever living in a cozy department with tons of money to buy figurines, the reality is that you would live in the street just like in any other country competing with hobos and criminals to survive.
This guy gets it.>>287078
Japan might still be nice but they are on the globohomo democracy human rights slope as well. I'd still choose wageslaving to death in Japan over my country and many others if being a welfare king isn't an option, no mass nigger immigration(yet) and a just a bit less succubi-centric (for now).
Though they did go full virus hoax hysteric retard.
>>287090>Japanfags and weebs idealize Japan
I'm surprised that people still do that decades later.
>>287062>Evil never prevails
tell that to the millions who died in concentration camps in the 20th century
Yeah the Holodomor was nasty.
It's almost as if there's some aspect of the homogeneous Japanese culture and life that make the nation appeal to aspiring young people…
It was nasty of the USA to put japs and other asians in camps.
Holodomor is literal Nazi propaganda, you know what he's talking about, don't pretend otherwise.
No, we don't know what he's talking about because anyone not in the US hasn't had fucking holocaust class in grades school. The Holodomor has been well documented, proven, and still burial piles are exhumed to this day. "The Holocaust" on the other hand has yet to turn up any evidence. (There have been several holocausts against many ethnicities and religious groups, but the Soros' foundation made it illegal to refer to anything but the Jewish deportations of the 1940s as a holocaust) No bodies, no records, and no reason. Testimonials by so-called survivors who all share in a religious practice of deceiving non-Jews for profit is all there's ever been, and man have they profited off of it big time.
Jews do not belong in Europe.
They have their own nation now.
They can go practice religious child rape and mutilation there.
There never was a Jewish holocaust but there really should have been.
>>287111> The Holodomor has been well documented, proven
misattributed photographs proven to be collected from the 1920 postwar famine are not documentation of an engineered famine specifically targeting ukrainian nationalists and anarchists in 1932-33, and the presence of a famine recorded by soviet sources throughout western asia due primarily to the record rainfall shortage of 1932-33 and augmented by kulak-perpetrated crop burnings does not constitute proof of an engineered famine specifically targeting ukrainian nationalists and anarchists in 1932-33. rather, the apparent sole provision of photographs from the postwar famine of the 1920s would indicate that soviet efforts to allay the famine of 1932-33 were effective in preventing starvation from reaching the levels of the postwar years before ukraine was fully consolidated into the union.> and still burial piles are exhumed to this day.
nazi wartime burial piles are meaningless in the context of accusations of engineered famine specifically targeting ukrainian nationalists and anarchists in 1932-33
>>287113>Anarchists get cut off from government food supply>starve to death
>>287111>>287111>There never was a Jewish holocaust but there really should have been.
Lmao seething /pol/acks like you are funny, sometimes I wonder how it feels to be truly delusional like this.
Are you implying nato and liberal regressives are anti-Ukraine and taking a Stalinist line to own the libs or as part of some sort of deep anti-Reddit kneejerk reaction?
Are you okay, bro?
The lolodomor is fake, yes there was a famine caused by poor weather, poor harvests and kulaks, yes a lot of people died. but it wasn't an artificial famine caused to "own" the ukrops, every fucking year during the czarist period the same shit happened in ukraine and poland and the lolodomor actually decreased the number of dead people compared to the famines during czarism.
That and later on the USSR got rid of famines in that area completely.
So yeah the holodomor is literal nazi propaganda, the holocaust isn't, even the fucking nazis kept records of the genocide, not trusting the allies is wise and ok, but if the fucking guys themselves said that the holocaust was true, then why people keeps denying something that even the nazis say was true?
Slavs are super weird about Nazism,but the weirdest are Israelis of slavic extraction.https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/123645https://www.haaretz.com/1.4905284
Why is it that hebraic slavs from the Former Soviet Union are uniquely willing to try to mend fences with Hitler when that doesn't seem to actually gain them anything? Does Eastern/Southern Slavic DNA actually wipe away Judaism in a way that Germanic and Western Slavic DNA can't?
>>287088>wage slave's hell>dying of overwork>alcoholism
You implying these aren't problems in other first world countries?
They have more NEETs because they have good "escapism", media and because they have the financial background to NEET in the first place. Bullying, what does it have to do with anything? >normals don't get bullied as much as people who stand out
Lord, who would have thought? Again, you think this works differently in other countries? As far as Nippon is concerned, people are more polite and kind, yes. You envious that an asian country can be more civilized than your precious western countries?>>287090
Japan and Russia would be paradise if they had NEETbux or UBI. If I had enough money then yes, I would live either in Japan or Russia. When you are poor no matter where you live life is hard usually.
Japan and Russia both still have culture left in them, they have blood in their bodies, while the West is empty, hollow, rotten to the core. You can shit on them for different reasons, but that is just you coping with the hard truth, that the West is dead.>>287099
I'd say japs value their traditions, culture, and old virtues as best as they can. They necessarily go along with modernization to keep up with the world, but only to a moderate level.>just a bit less succubi-centric(for now)
They have lolis stripping regularly in anime, they have hentai, they have/had the whole trend of wo-men getting molested on buses or trains by gangs of men, I would say females are kept in their place in Japan.>they did go full virus hoax hysteric retard
If a country's government is not even allowed to restrict its citizens' socialization in order to lessen damages by a dangerous virus then what can it do? Covid restrictions were very wizardly, no bars, no restaurants, no partying cattle on the street, no concerts, no social activities of any kind, hah, it's like the world went full wizardly for a short while. It was good.
>>287126>If a country's government is not even allowed to restrict its citizens' socialization in order to lessen damages by a dangerous virus then what can it do?
Way to dumb down the situation to make it easy to argue against.
>restrict its citizens' socialization
And working, and traveling, and shopping, and childcare, and hospital visits, and sport participation, and outdoor activities, gym vists, mental health visits, attending government services, voting, and more. It wasn't about "Oowning the social normiefags", it was the government testing their limits by seeing if the people are yet docile enough to be scared to stay in their own homes indefinitely.
>a dangerous virus
Another way you types change reality to make your points easier to explain. Covid-19, or any of the coronaviruses, are not at all deadly. They're less potent than the common flu and they are far more treatable.
>>287126>>287126>They have more NEETs because they have good "escapism", media and because they have the financial background to NEET in the first place.
lmao what? you can experience jap escapism in any part of the world, do you think that the vast majority of Otakus like in Akiba or something? How is the financial background "suitable" for NEET's? they pay either very little NEETbux or none at all, all the japanese NEET's that appear on documentaries look depressed as shit, a lot of them live on net cafes.
Japan is a shit country just like any other western country, the fact that they have anime doesn't change that, in fact I would say that they NEED anime and alcohol to cope for living in such a corporative shithole that rewards conformism.
>>287126>They have lolis stripping regularly in anime, they have hentai, they have/had the whole trend of wo-men getting molested on buses or trains by gangs of men, I would say females are kept in their place in Japan.
You sound like a seething íncel.
Why does it bother you if the government restricts people's rights? You go to the gym or partying that much? I know it wasn't done with the intention of making life hard on normals but the results were the same. I enjoyed hearing all the butthurt rants against "muh evil covid dictatorship". As a NEET hermit I don't understand why people got so pissed off, you seriously have trouble staying home? I mean, how hard can it be to occupy yourself without meeting up with the bros and hoes? God forbid, maybe people were forced to spend their time on meaningful things like reading or learning instead of going to orgies and football matches.
I absolutely felt no pity for the enraged normals and if you are here on this site then I don't understand why you did get so butthurt about restrictions.
>Covid-19, or any of the coronaviruses, are not at all deadly. They're less potent than the common flu and they are far more treatable.
Says your interment meme sources, I guess? Reality proved you wrong though, in my home town for example much more people died of covid than of the common flu. I understand it makes the world seem like a more fun place to live if you believe every childish hoax theory you read on the net, but still. Facts are facts.
Talking about family savings and parents having money so their sons can NEET, not NEETbux. And jap escapism may be popular in the world but still, if you don't know japanese good luck reading untranslated/obscure stuff. Japs have it easy, they live in 2D land literally. Being "autistic" is part of japanese culture, unlike here in the West.>documentaries
Made by normals trying to make NEETs look bad, Japan is so afraid because childless NEETs keep increasing that they go on crusades against them. Haha. They can't change the reality, that Japan is the home of strange people who end up NEETing and often virgins until their death.
Again, you implying it's different in other first world countries? I'd choose Nippon, where people marry their imaginary 2D waifus and NEET instead of the US where people do drugs and have sex when not wageslaving, but maybe it's just me…>>287131
Is this the part where you start to roleplay as a true asexual monk wiz? You can spare us both from this cringe roleplay.
lol>Covid restrictions were very wizardly, no bars, no restaurants, no partying cattle on the street, no concerts, no social activities of any kind, hah, it's like the world went full wizardly for a short while. It was good.
The virus hoax was and is complete shit and normalfag hysteria, as well as its goverment-enforced rituals. Why would you be bothered by people being out and about where you are not, the quarantine faggotry just drew the hordes to squat day in and day out on the internet instead. Plus constantly being bothered by distance enforcers at the grocery stores and the masked cattle either staring at you like you murdered someone for not wearing your diaper or lecturing you for walking by 2 meters too close.>I enjoyed hearing all the butthurt rants against "muh evil covid dictatorship"
Is it still March 2020 where you're at? The normalniggers quickly learned to really love that shit.
But we can agree on the culture of Japan and Russia, still better than many other countries despite their problems, but their virus mania and the japs complete compliance to it is super gay.
You're delusional, probably an underage, if Japan was an utopia people wouldn't be killing themselves over there.
Great, how'd this poltard faggot find this place
"x is better because it is not quite as culturally liberal/progressive as other western nations"
lol this is like the reactionaries and their weird fetishization of the fities and sixties
You're a faggot too. You completely ignore that their police are so effective at keeping the peace, neetdom is the only real male rebellion, and the Yakuza is officially and publically regulated to keep them in line. Sources of dissent like low IQ ethnicities that view the world in low energy terms like race and ethnicity, and cause crime, and demand gibs regardless of actual qualifications, are likewise rightfully kept in line. It's the highest trust first world society in the world, no thanks to idiots like you.
This entire thread is /pol/ish as fuck, and people says that this place doesn't attract hateful íncels lol.
You'll note I called him a poltard. Most of the rest are at least well reasoned pol talking anons, but that guy has to be the dumbest poster I've seen in many of these threads.
Yeah, it's funny seeing people decry Western upstart niggerjew culture then suck off arabs, russians, chinese, etc. Trading one bull for another. How based. Well, guess that's why whites are on their way out; can't stop romanticizing foreign cultures on a fundamental level.
I don't think Niggers could get into japan easily, as the japanese language is too complex for them and the japanese may not be as tolerant as white people
You can always go back to the tranny containment board.
i love this video so much
How the FUCK is Ukraine winning? This is impossible!
>>287111>No, we don't know what he's talking about because anyone not in the US hasn't had fucking holocaust class in grades school
i kinda tried to keep it vague so people would focus on the message of my post and not launch into a debate about whether the holocaust happened or not but looks like i failed.
Then why did Ukraine elect Jews President?
They didn't, Zelensky has a lower approval rate than Biden if you can believe that's possible. Him and his entire clown pose were put in to power by other Jews.
It's fascinating how Russian propaganda targets imageboards and it can be seem flowing all the way here
Putin can bench 350
…isn't that more of a sign that you're maybe seeing "Russian propaganda" where there isn't?
Death to all rusoniggers.
no, it is a very well proven phenomenon. It's obvious and logical that they would do so.
It was correct with covid to notice that western governments lie and censor valid information, so there was a lot of correct "disinformation" out there being posted that was orthogonal to the narrative of the west. People on imageboards love to be contrarians and readily jump to conclusions when they see correct contrarian content, and this actually worked for covid. The situation was so absurd.
However this created a fertile ground to place invalid alternative narratives. You cant trust the western media and end up hating them, so you are all to eager to believe when you see some alternative narrative. Anonymous posting, it's against chan culture to moderate/censor so propaganda wont be deleted making it easy to keep up compared to other social media, it's perfect
"Sergei, give me a report on your disinformation posting."
"Yes comrade, I just got done posting on Wizardchan."
^That doesn't at all seem just a little bit absurd to you?
every piece of e-territory must be conquered. wizchan is a strategic nook of the chan turf, its even listed on wikipedia's list of chans
There are rumours a Ukrainian chantard took down 8 Russian robot soldiers with a single hypersonic shit. They are calling him the Boy of Kyiv.
Yes, it is a dangerous virus. Shocking, but these things exist, you know. Okay, covid was a chinese biological weapon prototype, but that is besides the point. It is very dangerous, considering I knew many completely healthy people who died because of it. And personal experiences aside, I'd rather trust actual doctors and scientists than chan smart guys and conspiracy nuts on the internet. How can it even be a hoax when all countries in the world acknowledged that it is a harmful virus? I mean, it wasn't just the US or the West, but Russia, India, China, etc. etc. Or in your mind da jewz control everything? Pffh.
The hysteria was done exactly by people like you, who aren't disciplined enough to keep basic regulations, laws and instructions. Boo hoo you had to wear a mask and had to keep your distance, such a tragedy! It's like people in the West got way too absorbed in their superficial luxury. You can't go and act like some ape while partying? You have to wear a mask in the open? You have to keep your distance? Oh, the evil fascist government is sooo mean! Muh freedumbs and civil rights!!4
It was pathetic. If you ask my personal opinion, the West handled covid way too easily. It should have followed India's example, there the police beat everyone with a stick they found out in the streets during lockdown. Now that is more like it.
I liked covid restrictions because there was more law and order finally in our everyday life. No party animals high on drugs or drunk out on the streets late at night, for example. Life slowed down, became quiet and orderly. Normals were forced to stay home too, which was hilarious. And no, I don't go to facebook or 4chan or reddit so I don't care if they flooded the net. No gyms, no restaurants, no degenerate bars, no sport events, no concerts, it was literal wiz-heaven during the lockdowns.>>287136
Japan is utopia compared to the liberal hell the West is. There are problems everywhere, so what if some wageslaves off themselves? Big deal.>>287138>>287142
It's not about romanticizing X country, or being the epic contrarian. Some places are objectively better to live than others. If I had the money to NEET until death then I would move to either Russia, Japan, China or some arab country. Because they still have, you know, culture? The West is an intellectual desert where only neo-marxism rules. The West is soo dead spiritually and mentally that it tries to import Islam as a means to save itself from the post-modernist Pandora's Box it opened. Hilarious. It is complete anarchy and chaos. Far right leftists and muslim refugees building a Brave New World hand-in-hand, so absurd. I'm not even a nationalist, I just hate the ultra-liberal dystopia our civilization has become. Womyn, gays, rappers, minority gangsters setting the trends and telling everyone what to think, I'm dying from this. Everyone is equal so now the rabble is free to do whatever it wants, how great.
>>287193>Far right leftists
Lol, meant to say extreme leftists or ultra-leftists.
There never was any virus.
Said 4chan's self-appointed virus experts, must be true…
If /pol/ says that there's no virus and wizchan confirms it must be true.
It's amazing what being online all the time does to people, there should be studies about this.
What a dumb defense lol.>It's not because I'm contrarian, it's because they have culture…
Like it or not, Western countries have far more robust culture than all the shitholes I listed. Confucius and Dostoevsky are long dead. Islam is cancer. Doesn't matter if the Western establishment tries propagating brown consumerism; plenty of people still recognize old traditions. It also doesn't validate arabs, chinese or russians. Fucking insane that you can call those subhumans cultured and claim you aren't just being emptily contrarian. Delusional.
>>287194>Far right leftists
Thats the ideology of pro-Russianism these days
The Traditionalist Workers Party became pro-Putin Nazbols
Russians and especially chinese have contributed way more to civilization than you think, and calling them "subhumans" just shows that you are very low IQ indeed, because people like you I'm happy that white countries get completely invaded by niggers, your ethnic clock is ticking and hopefully your whole race will completely dissapear in the next 100 years.
>>287200>Like it or not, Western countries have far more robust culture than all the shitholes I listed. Confucius and Dostoevsky are long dead. Islam is cancer. Doesn't matter if the Western establishment tries propagating brown consumerism; plenty of people still recognize old traditions. It also doesn't validate arabs, chinese or russians. Fucking insane that you can call those subhumans cultured
That was pretty illiberal of you.
Nuke USA, fuck the Africanization of the non African countries, stop with this eugenics shit of worshipping africans! fuck Disney and FUCK UNICEF!
>>287183>wizchan is a strategic nook of the chan turf
What the fuck? Since when is wizardchan the Gibraltar of chans?
>>287204>brown faggot impotently screeching about his eternal irrelevance
All those places are modern shitholes practically as bad to live in as nigger hives in USA. If we take the retarded hypothetical earlier of being able to comfortably with money as no concern, you could still live far more comfortably in any white nation associated with the West compared to arab, chinese and russian shitholes (and what's really funny is talking about Japan considering that has essentially been meshed into Western continuity at this point). Everywhere is fucking impoverished in those places compared to the concentration of niggers in population centers in the West. I would still live in even the USA over your dirt-world saviors' abodes. I still find it quite funny how deluded you retards are about this. I hope you fucking idiots move to one of these glorious utopia and experience a reality check. I'll just leave this definition for romanticizing here to remind you that's indeed what you are doing.>deal with or describe in an idealized or unrealistic fashion; make (something) seem better or more appealing than it really is
It's a shame that you used to present yourself as a realist madcuck, but your values simply reduce to material comfort in the final analysis. You can see the same anxiety and precarity that grips everyone else in your class driving your reasoning. Sad!
Still waiting on that overthrow by the incompetent bugmen, retarded brown pedophiles and alcoholic nihilistic mongrels. Any day now. Until then, keep screeching in the face of reality online like a clueless faggot.
btw, crying about me bringing up material when >>287193
says>If I had the money to NEET until death then I would move to either Russia, Japan, China or some arab country
confirming you are ESL for missing that detail lol
>>287216>Still waiting on that overthrow
The overthrow of what, exactly?
Of the "crumbling Western regime" by the "brave, capable world saviors from the East." You really can't follow a conversation past one post, can you? Practically a bot.
Why would the overthrowing of a "crumbling Western regime" be an issue for you?
What is this non-sequitur? Do you think begging me for some shred of my identity to facilitate your desire to engage in ad hominem changes the fact all the doomsayers of the West and dickriders of the East are living a fantasy unsupported by history? It's very clear that USA has been more successful at projecting itself globally. That's why its "allies" border your fetish states and not the other way around. I care less about it than you do (surely because I'm not masturbating to some incomprehensible ideal and instead just working with the facts), but I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for dirt farmers engorging themselves to death on gutter oil and vodka are going to upset the current global power in the near future. Again, I implore you to live up to your words and go live in poverty among any of these dumps you're showering with all your hope.
There's literally nothing to do, the US and all white countries are killing themselves as we speak, why would anyone "overthrow" you when you're doing a much better job at destroying yourselves than any invasion?
This is why China's game is just wait, they know that the US won't be around in 2070.
You can say whatever you want about browns,blacks, russians or chinese, but the harsh reality is that they (we) will be around for at least another century while whites probably won't, let that sink in.
People have been saying this for a long time now. It's yet to happen. Nobody can predict the future.
This is pretty garbled but what I inferred is you believe the West is so superior that it needs no defense, which begs the question why you've come here to defend it.
You're right, I don't have to defend it and I was hasty in posting that last comment. I've been laughing at you idealistic retards since post one.
>>287221>It's very clear that USA has been more successful at projecting itself globally. That's why its "allies" border your fetish states and not the other way around. I care less about it than you do (surely because I'm not masturbating to some incomprehensible ideal and instead just working with the facts)
Why does simply working with the facts entail uncritically aligning yourself with US military power?
See, you're projecting your own investment onto me lol. You're so emotionally invested in your wrong opinion that you think I am supportive of Western hegemony. My point is you shouldn't be retarded and living with your head in the clouds, thinking the grass is greener elsewhere just because you don't like what's happening domestically.
I haven't made appeals to where the grass is green, that's actually what's central to your argument. My question would be that since these impoverished dirt farmers pose such little threat to US hegemony, why is the US involving itself in disposing Imran Khan from power in Pakistan right now? How do you account for that, given what you've written?
>>287229>but what about muh brown man
That's been the gameplan for several decades, screwing with weaker shitholes. That's pretty much always been successful geopolitical strategy at any point in recorded history. You're quite slow lol.
Why would that be a successful strategy if US power is uncontested? How do you explain why the US is executing a decades-long plan that pivots around an apparently irrelevant nation like Pakistan?
Gee, I don't know. Why do other nations conquer each other? They are irrelevant because they have no potential for power protection, not because there is no value to be plundered. I call them dirt farmers because, well, just compare the average fucking standards of living lmao.
Western countries possess great cultural heritage indeed but they aren't valued at all and currently the West is actively working on eradicating anything good or worthy from their cultures. "Plenty of people still recognize old traditions" yeah where are they hiding then? Because I mostly see these marxist or anarchist dogs walking everywhere, listening to the currently trendy rapper and the coolest gay influencer on the net telling them what to think.
Face it, the West is the victim of a horrible cultural revolution. She has been raped badly and I don't see her getting better anytime soon. The most "urgent" matters the West devotes its time to tell us everything we need to know: 3rd toilet for trannies, putting more gays and minorities into entertainment, "liberating" succs (from what? These days they are free in the West), importing more criminals and dangerous people to their own countries, encouraging/legalizing drugs and sexual degeneracy, should I continue? Western culture is gone, there is only pointless post-modern nihilism and politically correct narratives. You are coping EXTREMELY hard by defending the West, every sane man can see that Russia, China or other similar countries are much healthier in all meaning of the word. You are the delusional one here, refusing to face reality.
>Confucius and Dostoevsky are long dead
So is Pericles and Mozart, but the Chinese and Russians don't feel the need to make their men into wymen or to import 3rd worlders into their countries to tell them what to do. Now take a look at the current West and tell me with a straight face that everything is going okay.
And here is the part where you retards begin romanticizing. That you think the East is devoid of the same poz afflicting the West. It's only suppressed a bit, not absent. So go ahead, live up to your foolish and factually inaccurate views; go live in poverty just to BTFO the jews, niggers and trannies. You can bawl about the West growing more decadent (which is basically just arguing your own scarecrow at this point since I didn't say that wasn't happening, I think you've spent a little too much time arguing with bots on 4chan to always twist everything back to this concern), but the point stands that standard of living is still far better in Western nations than Eastern ones. Go ahead, look up the rankings for it. Average Chinese or Russian have lived in squalor for decades relative to the average Westerner. It's entirely foolish to romanticize the East over transvestites.
>>287255>Confucius and Dostoevsky are long dead>So is Pericles and Mozart
Brutal, but it's an interesting question what cultural artifacts of note the West has produced in the last century
When wiz >>287200
wrote that "plenty of people still recognize old traditions" that's admitting the problem in a way, because those traditions are old
and not current
JFC, the boomers and their social security/medicare are going to fucking end the United States. They're going to go down like Samson, pulling the entire house down with them.
You are the one who is talking about something I never mentioned, standard of living or material comfyness. I said if I were rich I would live in those countries. Wageslaving for a living sucks no matter whether you live in the US, Germany, Russia or Japan. I never said the average russian or chinese lives better than the average westerner, why are you putting words into my mouth? My whole point was about culture and intellectually these "evil dictatorships" the West hates so much are much better than the West, sorry! You can't debate this.
And there is more to living a comfy life than just living in a country that is better when it comes to economy and wages. You may earn more in the US but what does it worth when you can't live in peace? Minority gangsters, crack addicts stealing from you, robbing you or even killing you is a part of life in the West. The security and peace is much better in let's say, Moscow or Beijing than in New York, London, Paris or Berlin and you know it too. Less troublesome minorities and less criminals, less drug addicts, etc. The US alone has mass shootings almost every week for God's sake.
Culture? The East.
Law, order, peace? The East.
Higher wages? The West.
Earning more, like I said, won't protect you from getting shot by mexicans or getting stabbed by syrians who want your stuff.>>287259>what cultural artifacts of note the West has produced in the last century
Almost nothing noteworthy, sadly. The last century was about communism, national socialism, gender craziness and the hippy free love and drugs movements. It's a dying culture. Better jump ships while we can.
Yes, traditions are one thing but the current culture is objectively inferior in the West when compared to the East. The best president of the US was Donald Trump in the 21st century, which says a lot about how critical things are. In Germany they keep courses to soldiers about "deepening their empathy for gays and trannies", soldiers were forced to wear high heels and such in order to better identify with sexual minorities. Nobody in their right mind says the West is better than the East or even all right.
Serious question, not trying to be combative: How do you propose we live? Not as a society, but as individuals. I’m not a tranny with green hair obviously, just a solitary autistic NEET. How do you suggest I live my life?
>>287288>just a solitary autistic NEET
So am I. Spend your time learning things and enjoying things on your own.
I like the idea of totalitarian states and authorianism because only a strong state and law enforcement can make sure that people leave each other alone. People may say that the liberal world is making people more alienated from each other but it's not true, only on the surface level. Actually, liberal and anarchist systems are much more community-oriented than authoritarian systems. Do what you like without bothering others and I am fine with that. Privacy is the most important thing.
It's not fascism or communism to want to live in peace and order. I consider myself a conservative. I don't know you, so I don't know what you are interested in. Learn, read, study. We have way too many stupid, ignorant wageslaves walking around, while cultured, intellectual persons are extremely rare. It's us who build and keep up systems, we strange autists, not the normals. They just obey and conform.
Live an interesting, unique life. Mainstream society thinks you are a cool individual if you change your sex or if you lie down before minorities and let them do whatever they want. If you are a warrior, then preach with your life and deeds. If you are a thinker or artist, then think and create new things, systems. None of us here are normals, hopefully, so we have unique perspectives on life.
Strive for a height that is above the common normals and wageslaves.
Your understanding of the word 'culture' seems completely nonsensical. Modern western culture has been in constant flux, like all cultures have always been, and actually taking over the world because it is so powerful. It is the opposite of 'the west has no culture'.
What we put in our bodies (e.g. drugs, or no drugs), sexual acceptance (e.g. to be a wiz without judgement, or be gay because not attracted to succs)… these things are simple matters of personal freedom. As someone how is an outsider yourself whom writes derogatively about "normals" I truly struggle to see how people like you on this site are against basic personal freedoms. You're an abnormal yourself with unusual views but you want normals to oppress all abnormals. I think your beliefs are actually contained in the same things you complain about, in a way that you're hilariously unaware of. As a wizchan poster you're the most sexually degenerate of all, even more unaccepted by society than the other sexual minorities
>>287289>Learn, read, study. We have way too many stupid, ignorant wageslaves walking around, while cultured, intellectual persons are extremely rare.
Aren’t you just enforcing your own ideals and values onto everyone else, much like the normals do? In this case, academia, intellectualism, being “cultured”.
>It's us who build and keep up systems, we strange autists, not the normals.
I’m not sure I understand. You want to be a politician Ora revolutionary or something? Why?
>Live an interesting, unique life.
Fiiiine, if you insist.
>If you are a warrior, then preach with your life and deeds.
The whole “warrior” thing sounds a lot like those stoic Internet personalities. Besides that, isn’t “preaching” directly at odds with your belief that we should leave each other alone to choose how we want to live our lives? What makes you any better than anyone else, beyond the values you deem important?
>Strive for a height that is above the common normals and wageslaves.
Doesn’t competing against normals mean you care about what they think? Why should I care to be “better” than them? And by what metric, anyway?
Sorry, perhaps I come across argumentative in this post. It was not my intention. Live as you see fit of course. This personal philosophy of yours seems to be working for you, though I imagine it’s stressful and rigid at times. Maybe I’m wrong though. Feel free to disregard this reply.
Not him but what would you call it when you believe in personal freedom but also just hate gay people and think it's a bad way to live? Like I don't think we should go round them up and exterminate them I just don't want it promoted or seen as socially acceptable.
at the beginning of the war, i was unapologetically pro russia. i was ecstatic to see another enemy of america triumph, like what happened in kabul last year. however, as the war went on, i became enraged at russia's utter impotence and inability to win a war that should have been a cakewalk. i guess i never should have put faith in dumb slav niggers to not be fucking retarded. now the war has turned into a matter of indifference to me. my only hope is for a high amount of civilian casualties.
So you butt into a conversation you didn't read, gotcha. Because that was the crux of a post made earlier that I was originally replying to. It's retarded to downplay standard of living as simply higher wages when there is much greater access to commodities in the first world
Again, still romanticizing the East. Now you've jumped from there being no niggers and transvestites to there being no crime? That's even stupider. There is plenty of crime almost everywhere in the world, especially in impoverished places lmfao. You are deluded as hell. Like I said, put your money where your mouth is and go live in the East if you think it's so safe and orderly.
You are also just as culpable in abandoning tradition as the newer generations are if you make no effort to find others practicing it, by the way. It's equivalent to some trust fund dope tweeting about communism between watching blackwashed Anne of Green Gables on Netflix all day every day, while living in a flat paid for by daddy and enjoying a $50 doordashed order ($2 tip) of mid-quality Chinese food (worth mentioning is likely made with higher quality ingredients than the average meal back home).
By the way, if you really think tradition is any less superficial than what you think of it in the West, you'd be wrong again. Trading a jewish ball dropping ceremony for red paper lanterns and nothing more significant.
>>287287>Almost nothing noteworthy, sadly. The last century was about communism, national socialism, gender craziness and the hippy free love and drugs movements. It's a dying culture.
All I could come up with from the last century was the Apollo program. That was the last time a Western nation had any spirit.>>287288>Serious question, not trying to be combative: How do you propose we live? Not as a society, but as individuals. I’m not a tranny with green hair obviously, just a solitary autistic NEET. How do you suggest I live my life?
Not that wiz but the aim is to live an authentic life where it's possible to cultivate value. Our nations are hostile to this way of life at every level, because it's not reducible to any economic or empirical metric.
What are the system enjoyers ITT offering you? The longest life possible (maybe you will reach 120), a slow death, and access to a broad range of commodities and food.
My offer is you can write your book, finish your project, and have it be received and understood as part of a millennia-spanning stream. Despite being "unproductive" I would argue you have created greater value in that single act than working in a factory or office for 40 years. Why make living a prison sentence?
Once again arguing a strawman. I'm not saying the system is good. I'm saying your romanticization of the East is braindead. Western nations are rife with social programs to facilitate NEETing that could lead to personal fulfillment whereas the East is practically devoid of such welfare. Everywhere sucks and all relevant politicians are sociopaths. Come back to reality anytime.
I'm not the wiz you're having the east/west discussion with.
I realize that, but I thought you were referring to me in part when you mentioned "system enjoyers."
The west is full of retarded bullshit that fucks up your mind and makes you a zombified drone addicted to smartphones and shitty entertainment to keep you sedated, it's no surprise why the US is one of the most unhappy countries on earth full of divorces, drug abuse and suicides, the prime example of why money to spend on shitty consooomerism doesn't lead to happiness, but to an empty, aimless life instead.
Ask most NEET's if they're happy and probably most of them would say that they aren't, I'm not talking shit about NEET's (I've been one myself) but no, most NEET's aren't happy because to be happy you need something more than play videogames and sleep all day, you need purpose, a community, goals and something greater than yourself to live for, all those things are dead in the west.
In that case the dichotomy I was drawing was between the neoliberal view and my (basically greek) view, not between east and west.
You aren't understanding that it's no different elsewhere. In fact, it's even worse in a lot of ways. Why would a more explicitly authoritarian regime EVER allow accurate polling for something as nebulous as happiness? I would wager that the majority of people on the planet, regardless of where they live, are unhappy or at least neglected. Not just NEETs, not just westerners in general.
>>287312>to be happy you need something more than play videogames and sleep all day, you need purpose, a community, goals and something greater than yourself to live for
I agree. I'm a NEET and I've decided my "purpose" in life is spreading reducing suffering-focused ethics philosophies like antinatalism, EFILism and negative utilitarianism. This makes me feeling comfy and fulfilled. But I bet for many /pol/fags these goals are not legit because they think antinatalism is a satanic liberal conspiracy, western degeneracy or some bullshit.
>>287312>most NEET's aren't happy because to be happy you need something more than play videogames and sleep all day, you need purpose, a community, goals and something greater than yourself to live for, all those things are dead in the west.
To add to what you wrote I'd say there's also a Laozi-type 'purposeless purpose' which is still distinct from the nihilism we experience today, so there's still a place for gentler souls to find happiness.
>>287315>But I bet for many /pol/fags these goals are not legit because they think antinatalism is a satanic liberal conspiracy, western degeneracy or some bullshit.
Antinatalism shares the same reductionist view of humanity as neoliberal capitalism does, so it's certainly part of that tradition. It's pretty likely that antinatalism and self-castration are promoted by the media as part of a lowkey sterilization program, unless you believe the media honestly wants to reduce suffering.
That's quite an unambitious goal if it's even reflected either by practice or intent, but that's also why I wouldn't draw comparisons between Bhutan and an Eastern power based on that regardless. I am uncertain if many posters here could handle a life in Bhutan nor if they could even make significant progress toward obtaining one.
The lack of ambition is an interesting point, because previously in this thread the only recourse pro-western posters seemed to have was the standard of living. If national happiness is unambitious, then standard of living is similarly mediocre.
You're right not to draw comparisons, it's just to show that another way of life is possible.
What do you believe to be pro-Western? Because I am just pointing out the fact that life is far more comfortable in Western nations whether you magically have infinite money or want to NEET. It's funny that I'm now pro-Western. A few weeks ago I was a Leninist apparently! I guess people are just allergic to reality and need to believe that specifically the end of the West is going to mean all their ideals will then finally materialize, which is quite a pathetic wish but also has fuck-all to do with pointing out that it is more comfortable to live in Western nations.
If a happy life is unambitious, then a comfortable life isn't any more ambitious. Therefore, if we can dismiss the first argument for lacking ambition, then we can also dismiss the second argument.
I didn't know whether you had said anything before, or whether you were a new wiz. It was just an observation.
I was discussing the state providing the lifestyle. Lack of ambition isn't meant insultingly, but it's certainly not going to lead to a winning geopolitical strategy.
Depends why you think that
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Thanks anon. Great roundup post.
Yes, it is a constant flux and western "culture" is going downhill steadily. I dread what may happen tomorrow or even a couple of years into the future…Cardi B as president of the US? Or a trans-muslim president for France? Good Lord, it is very scary because these can actually happen.
>actually taking over the world because it is so powerful
You reason like barbarians and brutes. The US and West spread their influence because they can, not because they are so very cultured. It is a classic example of might makes right. A thug holds a knife to your throat and says "black trannies are the apex of human evolution" You would be forced to agree with him, right? It's not different with the US and friends, they are spreading degeneracy and "democracy" to everywhere, sometimes with weapons, sometimes by blackmailing nations through their economic influence. That doesn't mean they are right or their thoughts and ideals are noble or stand higher than other ideals. They are importing freedom and equality (anarchy, rabble-rule) to every country they can by violent means. But if you look at the "culture" of the West you will face into the nihil - a void so dark and deep that it sucks everything in around it. This is the post-modern purgatory. I hope you enjoy it.
>these things are simple matters of personal freedom
No, freedom is what is good for you and your community, what is harmful isn't freedom, it is chaos. And the West is living in chaos, been living in it since the start of the 20th century at least. It isn't freedom to take drugs, to parade around like a degenerate in public like gays do, etc. Everyone is part of the collective ultimately. What you do to yourself will have an effect on the whole group sooner or later. If there are no healthy individuals then there won't be a healthy collective either and vice versa.
I can only laugh at you defending gays, implying there is anything common between us wizards and them. Gays are females in male bodies, they are the lowest of the low. They should be grateful they are even allowed to exist but what do they do? They push their disgusting habits and thoughts into everything and ruin everything. Watch a movie? Ooops, gay characters are everywhere. It is the new trend, the new cool thing to be gay. Gays are the ultimate normalfags. They even want to corrupt children and make them like themselves, degenerates by "increasing their empathy". Make no mistake, I think hetero free love is degenerate too and should be banned/restricted as much as possibe. But there are different levels to being a degenerate. Gays and gender-tards take the cake. They symbolize everything that is wrong with current Western 'culture'.
>As a wizchan poster you're the most sexually degenerate of all, even more unaccepted by society than the other sexual minorities
You are contradicting yourself, because first you mentioned "sexual acceptance" Oh, now you acknowledge that some are more equal than others? Being a wizard or living a celibate life is nowhere near being degenerate. Modern society considers it a sin because of communism and nat.soc., both ideologies mocked virgins and chastity for different reasons. Actually though virgin men existed in almost every society, usually as priests or monks or shamans or even as warriors, typically it was the mark of a person who was dedicated to something more than just pleasures or living a family life. Being a male virgin is the sign of immense passion for something that doesn't involve succubi usually. Conservatives are the most accepting of male virgins btw, probably because lots of religious folk among them.
In short: it far-right and far-left propaganda which demonizes virgin men. Far-right hates us because we are seen as 'weak' and because we don't make more white children. Far-left hates us because they don't understand us, they are so far down the hedonist tunnel that they can't comprehend how someone can live for something other than sex or family.>>287299
You were talking with me but again, why are you putting words into my mouth? Wait, don't tell me, I know: because you can't argue anything I say. This discussion started out with me saying "If I had money to NEET until death then I would move to Japan or Russia" so it was never about wages. And there is more to living a good life than just hollow luxury and consumerism. I don't really care about that stuff.
Are you really debating that the crime rates are lower in Japan than in the US for example? Japan has one of the lowest crime rates on Earth, because its citizens are decent people who don't bother each other and there are no troublesome minorities like blacks or muslims. As for Russia, the security is much better there than in Western countries too. Simply because they have a strong, manly, authoritarian regime that punishes criminals SEVERELY and a law enforcement that isn't restricted by humanistic pc crap like in Western countries where a cop rather lets a criminal escape because he is a refugee or colored person and he is afraid of losing his job for "racism" and "police brutality". In France muslim migrants regularly get away with abusing the police and setting their cars on fire. Western countries are ALL full of no-go zones, hmm why is that? This is unimaginable in Russia for example. Grow up, your precious West is a dump. You are trying to convince yourself I think, not me with all these delusions and fantasies.
'Academia, intellectualism, being cultured' is the reason humanity exists. If you take away that, what remains? Wageslaves, merchants, empty capitalism or money-ism, a system with no great ideals or dreams or visions but a desert where only rabble can live. Rabble that only knows how to consume, produce, obey, breed and fight.
I'm interested in politics but not the kind which gathers normals around and let's go to the election. Rather the kind of politics I like is gather a bunch of guys around and let's make our own system, let's make it a reality, let's fight if necessary and build a new, better system. The democratic system is built on normals and rabble. I refuse to acknowledge a system where a retard has the same amount of influence as me or someone who is even more educated or intelligent.
We should leave each other alone yes, but first we need to change things so that it could happen. Everyone needs to get into their own caste and rank. I said earlier in another post that what I view as freedom isn't the same as what anarchists or liberals nowadays think it is. For example, succs and gays can't be allowed to get into positions of power and authority. That would be anarchy, not freedom.
>What makes you any better than anyone else, beyond the values you deem important?
What I value is objectively good and healthy for everyone. It certainly is a better alternative to how we live nowadays in the West.
>Doesn’t competing against normals mean you care about what they think? Why should I care to be “better” than them? And by what metric, anyway?
I care about myself and living out my full potential. I don't care about what others think. Our goal should be to be better than normals, to achieve greatness. You should care if you feel the desire for greatness, like I do. If not, then be content slaving away. Your choice. By what metric? Be unique like I said. There are many roads toward glory. Build, envision something new. Create something. Think new thoughts, feel new feelings. Destroy what you think is harmful, even if it is a holy cow or a taboo.
I like this way of life, it's not stressful or rigid at all to me, because I enjoy it. I can't live any other way. It takes no effort for me to be unique or to strive for greatness, they are part of my character.>>287306
Nice post, finally someone else who sees my point.>>287315
The problem with your philosophy in my eyes is that you are basically acknowledging that nothing matters and that suffering-pleasure/peace are the only values that exist. It is primitivism to me. As a cultured man, you should come up with something for the dilemma of "what is worth so much that I or others should suffer for it?"
why is anime laughing at WW3?
>>287075>Ukraine wants to drag the entire world into their conflict
Honestly this is one of the things that annoys me the most. That faggot Zelensky never shuts the fuck up, least of all with his ragging on NATO for not helping directly. You and your countrymen had the opportunity to join NATO and you threw it away. You should even be grateful for the help you are getting at the moment as it's the only reason your country is able to fight back. Of course I know he's sabre-rattling specifically to try and drum up support from westerners to put pressure on their Governments to give more supplies, but it's still obnoxious to me. I don't care about your country or your war. I especially don't enjoy seeing people saying we should intervene directly. Fuck Russia of course for starting all of this. But also fuck Ukraine for thinking appeasement would ever work with such a mongrel nation and then running with its tail between its legs to NATO.
>>287437>You and your countrymen had the opportunity to join NATO and you threw it away.
because war is joke, dont you know?
Ukraine had the option to join multiple times. It could have asked to join and NATO would have taken Ukraine with open arms. But it instead opted for appeasement and sucking up to Russia, believing it could play the "middle man" between NATO and Russia. Look at any poll conducted in the country over the past decade regarding joining NATO and it was always a majority negative response. Turns out they made the wrong choice in the end huh? Yet Ukrainians have the audacity to blame NATO for not doing more when it's the only thing keeping them alive.
Would you say the same thing about Finland if they were attacked now?
Just witnessed a video of a Russian soldier sticking a brass bore cleaner up a 2 month old baby's anus and vagina and then licking off the contents, followed up by his SMS conversation where he tells his friend that he did it *again* and shot this one dead too.
Hitler was right about these people. About many things.
Cultural differences can often result in disparate outcomes at first, exacerbated by mental health crises and sexual emergencies, but it's all part of the process of enrichment. If you look past your bigotry you will see young doctors and engineers. Educate yourself.
Apparently it's part of a set of videos of a Russian dude doing some weird shit as payment for a debt, before the war and unrelated to it.
Be sure to watch out for Poland too. They are absolutely crazy, they want a war with Russia no matter what. Their history blinds them completely and they are only waiting for a chance to start WWIII. Poland is actually much more dangerous than Ukraine in this respect because it is part of NATO so if Poland "gets attacked" by russians then better pack your shit and prepare for war on the eastern front.>>287483
Finland won't get attacked, because they didn't oppress russian people in their country. The Western propaganda ignores it but I as a neigbor to Ukraine can tell you that Ukraine is nothing but a literal nazi hellhole. They abuse minorities in their country and oppress them, but where was the West then? Nowhere. Now Ukraine is portrayed as the martyr of the civilized world. Joke.>>287491
It's worse. Can you imagine it? Ukraine is claiming russians are much worse than the nazis! Many old people told western reporters that german didn't even do half of this bloodshed and destruction.
Honestly, it is making me laugh pretty hard, what will be the next they will accuse the russian army of? Eating children alive? Raping old people in the ass?
>>287493>what will be the next they will accuse the russian army of?
Taping ukrainians to deadly masturbation machines.
These are the same people who ignore the fact that massive increases in the money supply are the cause for massive price inflation.
>>287493>They abuse minorities in their country and oppress them
Like all African countries, like Israel, like China.. "Nazi hellholes" are these?
Well of course. They've had plenty of opportunity to join up but always chose not to. Though at least they are unlikely to get attacked by Russia as there is no precedent for it. Yet. Finland and its people however seem as if they want to join NATO and are making motions for it so they're not making the same mistakes as Ukraine did.
the way you talk so simply about a military alliance in such a complex geopolitical situation is hilarious to me, especially when individual citizens who you are saying deserve to die have no understanding or power to influence anything
that is the price of democracy. it is a heavy responsibility. citizens are not innocent of their governments, they are responsible for them
live under a King if you want to say "dont blame me"
That's not unique to democracies. No one individual citizen has any more power under democracy than under any other system of government. All democracy is is a surface-level ethos meant to create a pretext to justify the government's rule over the people. The same thing as saying that the King has the divine right to rule. At the end of the day, every single citizen body consents to their rule by submitting to the law and refraining from acting against the government. This is just as true for monarchies as well.
At the very least everyone who votes for the ruling party is responsible for its actions
Kazakhs and belorussians live under autocratic rulers, are they innocent?
On the unrelated note, memes have made it through the osmosis and ukrainian state media keeps calling russians the orks, since they are Mordor does that make Belarus Isengard and Lukashenko the Saurman? Is lenin Melkor?
Voting doesn't matter when you're more or less electing the same special interests regardless of which candidate you feel like backing.
>>287522>At the end of the day, every single citizen body consents to their rule by submitting to the law and refraining from acting against the government
yeah, just like how if you put your hands up when youre being robbed youre consenting to it. at least you recognize governing people is evil and you need consent in order to make it right.
>>287524>memes have made it through the osmosis and ukrainian state media keeps calling russians the orks
well it works both ways, i think the biolabs stuff started more with the qanon types and then made it back to the russian state
Yes you are consenting to it. The proper thing to do in that situation would be to fight back. If you refuse to fight back and submit yourself to the will of another simply because you want to appease him then that makes you a whore.
>>287528>The proper thing to do in that situation would be to fight back
of course, but what you do has nothing to do with the morality of the aggressors actions. initiating violence against others is wrong, defending yourself is right. what you are suggesting is that initiating violence against others is a right until they fight back, your thinking is muddled.
>Yes you are consenting to it
no, because of your autism you misunderstand what consent means. consent comes from the words con (with/together) and sentire (to feel), therefore consent is a shared feeling. if one person is happy to point a gun at another and rob them, and the other person is scared and wants to leave, then there is no consent between these two individuals, no shared feeling. consent is derived from feeling, by definition.
>If you refuse to fight back and submit yourself to the will of another simply because you want to appease him then that makes you a whore
so are you a satanist psychopath who thinks its okay to kill people because theyre "weak"? tell me so i know whether i have to reply again or not.
Voting for any party is a tacit acceptance of the electoral system *including the specific candidates offered* as a legitimate form of government. Refusal to vote while retaining citizenship is an acquiescence to the legal system that is coupled with citizenship. The only true form of civil disobedience involves the renunciation of citizenship, in many countries possible only by self-imposed exile.
The United States, being at least partly a plunder economy, couples exile with the imposition of several ruinous fees including federal seizure of all Social Security payments made in your trust, coupled with the requirement to continue to pay taxes for 10 years. This is consistent with a state which has not held a military draft for half a century yet which imposes a $250,000.00 fine upon male adults who never entered the Selective Service.
>>287545>The only true form of civil disobedience involves the renunciation of citizenship, in many countries possible only by self-imposed exile
if aliens came to my house and told me that i either have to pay taxes to them or renounce my galactic citizenship would i go through the trouble of writing them a renunciation document in their alien language so their courts can understand it or would i just go about my life on earth because i know that some random aliens dont have authority over me?
isnt that against the rules of war?
>when you're such a loser your only friends are FBI informants
This case is simultaneously dystopian as hell but also hilarious and has tons of meme potential
well almost every muslim plot in the usa since 911 has been a similar circumstance
Yes. The only acceptable form of warfare is to line up opposing each other in an open field and take turns firing volleys of shots.
Not at all. The soldiers are armed and dangerous in a hot zone, actively looking for Russian targets to neutralize with lethal force. The Russian tank got close enough to identify them as armed hostiles and took its chance to eliminate the threat. Assuming the HEAT cannon hit its mark, much more suffering would have happened if the tank crew had used the designated anti-personnel cannons on the vehicle. If the tank was masquerading as a Ukrainian ally, that too is not against the greater ethics of war as long as civilians aren't involved.
It's no different than two soldiers fighting, then one using the element of surprise to eliminate the other.
>>287589> If the tank was masquerading as a Ukrainian ally, that too is not against the greater ethics of war as long as civilians aren't involved.
Not saying they did in that vid. But putting the markings of the enemy on uniforms or vehicles would be against the laws of war.
Having a similar vehicle creep forward without markings is not
>>287591>Not saying they did in that vid. But putting the markings of the enemy on uniforms or vehicles would be against the laws of war.
Did the UN ever reprimand Ukraine for flying troops around in helicopters with fake UN markings?
I find it hard to believe a smartphone survived a tank shell
I would imagine the smartphone would easily survive if it got blown away from the blast and landed in some soft dirt or mud.
Putin gives middle finger to the sanctions and the West YET AGAIN. Russia starts her moon program again. So much for Russia collapsing "soon".
I know this is a /pol/-esque thread and most if, not all, /pol/-adjacent places are mostly rightoids, but would it be crazy to think that imageboards/sites with a NEET/crab/wizard userbase are the last place of revolutionary thought? People who exist outside of society and are essentially invisible either socially or economically or both, tend to view the state of society with a level of detachment, and clarity I dare say, to the way we are continually being fucked by the system and our unwillingness to be part of it beyond what is necessary.
I mean, it would explain the blatant shilling and astroturfing you see on 4chan's /pol/ and a number of subreddits suddenly changing their mods.
…changing their mods when the sentiments start gaining traction among normalfags.
There is talk of 5-10 year jail sentences for ukrainian males currently living abroad if they don't come back to the country. Draft scizo should be grateful that US can't be destroyed from the outside, and his biggest concern is a hypothetical draft akin to Vietnam
>>287060>UKRAINIAN MISSILES HIT RUSSIAN SOIL. PETRODOLLAR OFFICIALLY BEING REPLACED, GOLD BACK ON THE TABLE. DISNEY DEMANDS AT LEAST 50% LGBTQIAPOC+ FOR CHARACTERS, EMPLOYEES BY 2023.>PERODOLLAR
I'm 100% sure that the therad is created by russian.
>>287676>People who exist outside of society and are essentially invisible either socially or economically or both
check the wageslave thread, and the numerous posts by early twenty something students. most of the posters here are well adjusted and socially integrated, with many deliberately taking part in social activities. we neets are a minority
>>287683>most of the posters here are well adjusted and socially integrated, with many deliberately taking part in social activities
explains why this place is so shit
I hate both leftists and rightists equally, nobody is at my side so I hate everyone but I vote for far left in my country just for lulz
Ukraine has more than enough volunteers. They are turning people away because they have too many. This sounds like nonsense.
whats the point of not letting the males leave, if they can just hang out and not serve the army?
Probably because 90+% of the volunteers are impotent soyboy redditor tourists looking to virtue signal to their fake online friends.
No, you are talking bullshit
The theoretical userbase then, the ones who used to populate the internet and nerd circles back in the day. Nerds were the last free thinkers and tptb noticed when dumb shit from the internet kept going viral (a fucking anime imageboard has a place on the political landscape for crying out loud!). Now nerds are either alt-right nazi idiots or liberal trannys doped up on hrt, the rest have been sidelined.>>287693
They have a far left in your country? I'm not talking about liberal cocksuckers when I say left.
nigga these are modern 21st century wizards, any critique they "take it as a compliment" and double down for sure
>>287723>WW3 because twitter and not material conditions
if only they had you to teach them how to be a true masculine man full of testosterone huh?
Depends on what you mean by "revolutionary thought"? I assume you mean anarchism or leftism of some kind. My main problem with leftist politics is that they are worker-oriented. Marx and classic commies looked down on the lumpenproletariat/long-term NEETs and hated them. Anarchists were targeting also the workers mainly. Leftism aims at creating an utopia where everyone is equal, whatever that means, so it would be a world of workers, there would be no place for NEETs there (unless you are really sick or disabled or crippled or something like that).
National socialism also hates NEETs and would send us into concentration camps if they could get away with it.
If you are NEETing then nobody will stand by your side, that is the sad truth, except for Sweden or Scandinavian countries maybe but I imagine it's not really easy there either to get on bux if you are a healthy white male who doesn't want to work.
The very idea of not working implies aristocratic thinking, a world of privileges where people aren't equal. A world not for the masses. Nazis and leftists want a world where the collective is above everything else, this world would be the exact opposite. A world where a small minority governs everything. Being reactionary or conservative is the only road for wizardly types I believe.
That said, I'll vote for you if you give me UBI and leave me alone basically, I don't care what the government does as long as they don't mess with my hobbies/interests and give me some money to survive.
I don't see how any revolution would be useful to us, since revolutions are done by the oppressed majority usually, not by some obscure minority like us.
with Elon Musk as their new hero, the Right might switch from oil to electric cars before the liberals do
lets get political boys
*puts on the small penis*
Ukrainians managed to sink the Moskva, the Russian Flagship for the Black sea fleet. It was a guided missile cruiser, which has replaced the Battleship in modern militaries and is second in size and firepower to only an aircraft carrier (which Russia has none of anymore since their only one was put out of commission). Pretty impressive kill.
Russians and chinese are far more intelligent than the average american though, if anything americans are the 3rd world savages here.
>>287723>Today on Twitter feels like the last evening in a Berlin nightclub at the twilight of Weimar Germany
Melodramatic boomer. Twatter will continue to be a Weimar nightclub as Elon Musk no matter how edgy he is for attention, still is a gay shitlib. Only reason he panders to conservatives now is because the great reset will not give him the Blade Runner Cyberpunk brain chip monkey cyborg tranny future he dreams of.
>>287735>all these foreigners ready to die
Dozens of conflicts around the world to die in, what is so particular about Ukraine for redditors that they're willing to give their lives away to a country that was only a few places away from russia on the corruption index?
The telly and their social media told them it's the current thing to care for. Plus a new deadly variant of the missing white succubus syndrome, no one cares about random niggers or moslems getting blown up in some desert.
Isn't writing over the flag considered at least disrespectful? In my country it entails a fine.
1st major land war in europe since ww2
Russia has worse murder rates than America regardless of having zero niggers. Higher AIDS rate too despite supposedly having no faggots. It makes you wonder who are the ones going around acting like violent niggers while having wild promiscuous gay butt sex if Russia is faggot nigger free.
Is that how you call holocoastering thousands of Ethnic Russian minorities over 8 years in violation of cease fire agreements?
Why isn't there a mod to turn the enemies into schlomos in dig dug?
looks like reddit propaganda was true, about the constant victories of ukraine
I love Reddit
well if im a disabled neet who never wants to work again fuck worker rights. what does a higher wage get me? More expensive chicken tendies.
i would consider myself old left/socialist. theres plenty of alt right who are hard socialist/alternative capitalst (robert stark)
well I voted for Yang over Bernie in the primaries for that reason, as NEETbux in cash for all, would benefit me more, than a laundry list of things like free education, medicare for all, unions.
>>287728> I don't care what the government does as long as they don't mess with my hobbies/interests
The corps messed with my hobbies, they've basically run it into ground appealing to the masses for more cash. They've irreparably damaged geekdom.>>287720>hrt epidemic
Kind of ridiculous how often you run into an anime profile pic with a trans flag on any geek-related site. I can't tell if this "hrt epidemic" was intentional or self-inflicted.
>>287799>The corps messed with my hobbies, they've basically run it into ground appealing to the masses for more cash.
They do that to everything they touch, and as time goes on they expand and consume everything. I'd be afraid for the horrible dystopia that the world inevitably tends to if only it weren't the case that the unavoidable environmental effects of their profit-making will soon lead the whole system itself into it's own collapse.
>>287800>the whole system itself into it's own collapse.
It's not going to be a rapid collapse. Though I don't know if it's better with a slow collapse.>>287676
I've noticed any remotely left-wing place with sane ideals will rapidly either get taken over by libshits or rightoids. Always suspiciously quickly.
leftypol is cringe because the mods are fucking retarded but it's still a decent place to talk about philosophy or politics with more sane-ish people.
I wouldn't call people who believe that wearing a dress and cutting off your penis makes you a succubus "sane".
Man, trannies are great. They've completely delegitimized lefty idealogy.
>>287890>but it's still a decent place to talk about philosophy or politics with more sane-ish people.
Is it? I mean, are there tranny mods? I don't think it's possible to create a left version of /pol/ without it imploding.>>287893>Man, trannies are great.
Trannies are the future of outcast young men and that's really fucked up, and no one says a damned word because the idea of it is ridiculous when you spell it out.
well the only point of life is to feel pleasurable sensations, and if they get more pleasure out of being trans than out of being crab, then it is a net good
>>287925>>287925>if they get more pleasure out of being trans than out of being crab,
Well that's a huge IF my friend.
Those dudes, those particular sets of dudes, are jailhouse gay. They're doing it out of desperation and low self-esteem. The attention they get from other low-value dudes is all they can get.
If you were in power you may want to cultivate a class of eunuchs to execute orders. That is how the byzantines and ottomans maintained control over their jannisaries.
It's been an observation among trade unions that management likes to surround themselves with homosexuals, because it creates a sexual division between workers and middle-management in which they will always side with power. Transsexualism could have been promoted because this strategy was becoming less effective, and as your power becomes increasingly untenable you need a more radical class of eunuchs to serve you and parrot your propaganda.
It's hard to know because the same people that promote this stuff like going to conferences where they talk to each other about overpopulation (of course, this doesn't include themselves, who are the selfless lights of human industry), so it could be they just want those people to die. If that's their strategy then they will exhaust the supply of transsexual jannisaries pretty quickly, and what then? What more can be demanded from people?
I don't believe I've ever seen pro-trans or trans-acceptance arguments on leftypol.
It's more or less been the standard ML party line on transgenderism being a product of increasingly psychotic market alienation, partly as a product of the divorce from production ownership and partly from alienation even from consumer status (99% of advertisement being female-targeted etc).
Can you identify a single thread on the entire site in which there is anything approaching general acceptance of trans faggots being female?
I unironically say this, I have no problems with trannies. I masturbate to tranny/shemale porn sometimes too. I certainly find them more acceptable than normal gays. I mean there is no uglier thing than seeing two bearded guys licking each other all over…ugh. If you feel like you are a female then go and operate yourself already and live as a female. Male gays should be forced to operate themselves into trannies, imo. On the other hand females shouldn't be allowed to be like males, as far as looks go. Anything that comes close to male gays in terms of being disgusting is tumblr fat whores who want to think they are males..ugh.
>general left vs right
I stopped defining myself with these meme terms. I want to create my own ideology eventually in the future. In terms of economics I am a leftist, socially/culturally I don't care about traditional values (I'm not saying I hate them especially, only that I like to make up my own values), but I'm a nationalist and want a strong country with strong leadership, without all the democratic comedy going on. I don't agree with many of the so called "rights" of the modern world, like free speech and such. People should be treated equally when it comes to economics but otherwise there need to be rulers and followers. I also disagree with today's materialism and I am interested in mysticism, esoteric stuff and spiritualism. For the sexes, I don't have anything against succs in particular, if they are capable or prove worthy they should be allowed to do what they want so maybe I'm for classic equality in these matters, without all the #metoo bullshit and all that. I agree with anti-racism too, to a healthy extent, meaning blacks or other minorities shouldn't be treated specially, either positively or negatively. I guess I would authoritarian something, depending on how you look at it.
Different races can't live together wizard.
Are you doing your part to secure a future for the children of the white race
They can, it's about assimilating the minorities of the country properly. In the US this would mean end ghetto culture, educate minorities properly and throughly, punish drug users and sellers heavily and other criminals too. A strong state could do it.
Wizard, some melanin enriched individuals can't even see into the past or into the future, they function in a lower interpretation of reality, if you don't have anywhere to send them then cut a little bit of your country and make the official republic of De'troitshawn so melanin enriched individuals can live there in piss.
ever heard of 13/90 13/50? you know what that is?. even if african americans are objetively better than africans still they are not as smart than whites.
Your plan might work actually, but still.
Guess im very idealistic.
Are you keeping up to date with the statistics on birthrates in white countries. We need to keep a close eye on babies and who's having them, fellow wizard
>>287958>make the official republic of De'troitshawn so melanin enriched individuals can live there in piss.
I can tell by your wholesale regurgitation of stock /pol/ ideology and that lame attempt at a joke that you aren't the sharpest bulb in the shed, but c'mon. The history books basically handed you this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia
amish are anabaptists, the original communists
>>287942>I unironically say this, I have no problems with trannies. I masturbate to tranny/shemale porn sometimes too. I certainly find them more acceptable than normal gays. I mean there is no uglier thing than seeing two bearded guys licking each other all over…ugh. If you feel like you are a female then go and operate yourself already and live as a female. Male gays should be forced to operate themselves into trannies, imo.
Je-sus Christ. You're okay with them because you want more tranny porn. Fuck, the 10s onwards have become so unkind to the losers and outcasts.>>287947
I can sort of understand certain anon and wizard's racism, like I get you don't want to live near niggers or be around them BUT I do not understand the love they have for their own race. People/normalfags of your own race WILL throw you under the bus when it's convenient for them.
Is not more about the love one has for one's own race, is just that a white only country works hundred times better than a white country with colored people inside.
Is not about the love, is about results.
If you could make a new country inhabitated only by animals, with what animals you would fill it?
Chihuahuas or huskys? pick one.
They delete threads dedicated to discussing trannies because they know that it makes them look bad to sane people but it you look at the threads that slip through (https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/890295.html
) you see an undeniable acceptance of the tranny delusion. Even the post you screencapped is tranny rhetoric, framing gender as a social construct.
Also I looked at the rules and "covid denialism" is banned lmao. These people swallow the mainstream liberal party line wholesale but think that since they fantasize about murdering people and participating in riots that makes them more cool.
If that's your take on it, it's not as if I'm going to change your view.>>287995
I genuinely think that this trans shit is a psyops. Get the last free thinkers to figuratively and literally castrate themselves.
If they're indoctrinated enough to fall for this psy-op were they ever really "free thinkers" in the first place?
>>287995>Also I looked at the rules and "covid denialism" is banned lmao. These people swallow the mainstream liberal party line wholesale but think that since they fantasize about murdering people and participating in riots that makes them more cool.
This really surprised me. If anything I was expecting the left-wing to be completely against the mandates. Something along the lines of, "Oi! Are you even TRYING to cover up shilling for major pharmaceutical companies?! Feck off!" Instead, I see them all lining up and…promoting big Pharma.
I mean, just in general, I'm really getting disturbed by how much major corporations are lining up being certain ideologies. It's really making me rethink some things.
All true! And don't forget that even with twice as many wood-fired ovens, it would take 100 years to incinerate 6 million bodies. A whole train of wood or coal fuel would have been needed daily per 3 ovens but no such trains ever existed.
did someone advertise the board on stormfront or something
If you want people to agree with you then make a coherent argument. Wizards are immune to social shaming.
I wonder why /leftypol/ even for a second thought this was "their" place. Wizardchan was created when /r9k/ and /pol/ users were exiled together on 4chon, because they were too extreme for the normalization that 4chan was going through, and leftshits tried to frame and take it down since before gamergate (or /leftypol/, really) was a thing, even though wizards just wanted to be left alone. The amount of gaslighting attempts has been increasing here, the only invasion has come from the left.
Covid is claimed to be an "RNA Virus'.
This means they claim Covid is a set of RNA instructions which exists on its own and is simply protected by a 'capsid' or 'shell' of material. That's it.
In nature, though, the ONLY organisms we ever find have cells which contain DNA, and RNA is used to transcribe that DNA to produce proteins. There is no lifeform on earth that exists simply with or as RNA.
Furthermore, DNA and RNA never exist on their own and never 'act' in any intelligent or agentive way. They exist inside living organisms. In other words, DNA and RNA alone have no drive to live or aquire resources or replicate - only organisms do that.
Just think about this for a moment. Any person with a wide understanding of life on earth should find the idea of viruses, especially of "RNA Viruses" extremely suspect.
Viruses don't exist.
>>287995>you see an undeniable acceptance of the tranny delusion.
What is visible in that thread so far:
-a news article about a Conservative British politician who decided to cut his penis off and wear a dress as a traumatic response to homosexual rape, followed with mockery of other conservatives/Boris Johnson's support for this conservative politician's new identity and mockery of the identity as a perverse trauma response
-one (1) liberal idiot who supports transgenderism, prostitution, and capitalism, saying that leftists need to be more accepting of trannies like Conservatives are, getting torn apart for said liberalism for more than half the thread, though more attacked for supporting sex work than anti-terfist sentiment.
I admit I didn't read the whole thread and won't be going over it with some sort of intent at psychoanalyzing each user, that seems too dull to even think about. Tbh as much as I've always disliked feminists both as ideologues and as approximations of human beings I wish there was more exposure for the "radical" aspect of trans-exclusive radical feminist literature. They really need to start gatekeeping liberal fems who just loathe estrogenized eunuchs without any understanding of the theory or practice of radicalism.
>the 320 MILLION deaths
inflated harder than a deviantart with a blueberry tag
>>288010>Wizardchan was created when /r9k/ and /pol/ users were exiled together on 4chon, because they were too extreme for the normalization that 4chan was going through,
–and was created specifically in response to specifically undesirable aspects of the 4chon merger, as embodied by the fact that the first ruleset that Keivi ever drafted up explicitly banned political discussion alongside with the infinitely more pressing ban on tripfaggotry.>leftshits tried to frame it and take it down since before gamergate (or /leftypol/ really) was a thing
CWCiki users are not leftist, and as a rule have more in common with /pol/ than any other demographic online. The same demographic of normalfags who embraced gamergate were the primary antagonists of the site for the first let's say half of its existence.>the only invasion has come from the left
The very first politics thread on this site was performed in the wake of a vast influx of users specifically from /pol/ who specifically invaded this site immediately after Dutchwiz's suicide made the news, causing you and yours to come here to gravedance. Per the words of several of the invaders was conducted with the intent of conquest. Every single politics thread since 2016 bears this specific and particular legacy.
>>287999>If they're indoctrinated enough to fall for this psy-op were they ever really "free thinkers" in the first place?
Most outsiders/outcasts/losers aren't wizards, most have social and sexual needs which aren't being met now more than ever and tptb have exploited this.
When I have time I'll make a longer post but you remember when Ted K was going to get reassignment surgery and he stopped because he knew it stemmed from his lack of intimate relations with succubi rather than wanting to chop his dick off and become a succubus?
Please, without a strong state even "cultured" races like whites couldn't live peacefully. It's not about racism only, without a strong state crime will rise inevitably. Someone will always use violence, better it be a state that uses for it good ends, right?>>287958
There are black lawyers and doctors, I don't see your pont. What matters most is early childhood experiences, if they see that mommy and daddy dearest earn their money via stealing or violence and spend that money on alcohol and drugs then there is no hope for a kid like that.
I say send the army into ghettos, make them keep order. Take away children from families which are objectively shit and send them to government financed training camps, where intelligent people will teach them how to live like a human being.
Increase the penalty on drug dealers and users. Confiscate all kinds of weapons from ordinary citizens.>>287989
I like tranny porn, yeah. I think some trannies look better than actual succubi. Transvestites are the solution to the problem of gays.
>>288038>Confiscate all kinds of weapons from ordinary citizens.
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.
Fucking faggot tranny.
Honestly to fix ghettos and crime and what not I'd say change culture/society to believe lazyness/not working hard is something truly socially unacceptable and make suicide via nembutal or something easy to accomplish, I guess make people less religious to make them less fearful of death or something. people who stereotypically do crime and/or are lazy will just commit suicide and those who arent will work hard and not do crime, this is the only way you can fix degenerates and any other way is mental gymnastics that will be useless as you truly cant fix those who dont want to work hard
Yes, some individuals are outliers. That means nothing on a societal scale. When you have a population of people who are genetically less intelligent on average and more prone to violence those traits are going to reflect on the society they're occupying regardless of whether Jamal the amazing 110 IQ negro finishes medical school or not.
>>288038>Please, without a strong state even "cultured" races like whites couldn't live peacefully. It's not about racism only, without a strong state crime will rise inevitably. Someone will always use violence, better it be a state that uses for it good ends, right?
there's no reason violence need be monopolized, it can exist between multiple loci of power. if the aim was a cultured life, then for europeans that would mean the renaissance–but the renaissance occurred before modern nation states even existed, and it was also a rejection of the "good culture" that came before it
you only arrived at the conclusion of muscular liberalism because you accepted the same premises. because classical liberalism is a totalizing ideology you have the same answer for everything, but you have no account for why it ought be implemented other than a religious belief in the equality of the human soul, and the salvific egalitarianism that goes with it: mystically conferred by the state as rights. how else can the state take rights away, and shape people into what you view as human beings, unless you first granted those premises in service of it?
I have an idea.
Lets just group races in different places and let them create their own civilizations, in an organic way.
>>287935>If you were in power you may want to cultivate a class of eunuchs to execute orders. That is how the byzantines and ottomans maintained control over their jannisaries.
That REALLY viable in the modern age?
Isn't that what trannies are?
>>288053>change culture/society to believe lazyness/not working hard is something truly socially unacceptable
it already is you fucking moron. and get the fuck out with that mentality, you're on the wrong board.
If that's the case why do a lot of lazy people who have access to guns, poisons, etc not kill themselves?
A great example of what I mean is some 20yr old chinese succubus in Canada who got her boyfriends friends to kill her parents because she was a lazy piece of shit and wanted their life insurance money, the friends killed her parents with a gun but the dad survived probably due to them shooting him in a non-vital area. I'm a lazy piece of shit but if I knew a guy who had a gun, instead of making him kill my family I'd just buy the gun off him and kill myself with it, the fact that a lot of these criminals and ghetto thugs dont use drugs or guns to off themselves proves that they dont care about themselves being lazy lowlifes of society and want to live live live
Your plan is effective but for the "change culture/society to believe " part of it.
I hope you don't make the mistake again, it tends to be quite the time-waste!
Your twitter-esque blog post about society causing people not doing something with their lives doesnt explain how my brother who had it worse than me manages to work 10x harder than me; if I really want to I can easily accomplish a lot, I even learnt HTML, CSS and a bit of Java within 2 months so I am not a dumbass or scared of failure, I just chose not to because I am not bothered, I dont feel like wasting my energy, aka I am 'lazy'. Sure some people are 'lazy' because of factors out of their control but to say every case of lazyness is due to external factors not because of the person themselves is stupid
*I chose to not to work towards my original goal and chose to not finish learning all the web dev languages + make a website which I was 60ish% complete ont
Yes, we see how good it goes in the US, to allow people to own their own gun arsenal. Mass shootings every week, paranoid cops who shoot you when you try to scratch yourself, gang wars, terrorist attacks. But the right to own dangerous weapons must be defended to the death, yeah.
Dumb libshit logic.>>288054
Pseudo-science bullshit. Race doesn't matter, what matters is where you grow up. In what culture, what you learn as a child, etc. These cringe statistics don't mean anything, by your logic we should put all blacks, even smart and cultured people away, why not judge everyone individually?>>288058
But I'm not a liberal? I'm one of the most authoritarian persons here in this thread probably. Yes, violence needs to be monopolized. You can't trust the average normalshit, this should be clear to everyone here. We need more datamining, more surveillance, more cameras and less of these "freedumbs" americans have a hard-on for. Without a strong state people will eat each other alive and we will arrive at classic ghetto culture. Better to have a civilized but strong totalitarian state than having multiple little kings who do whatever horrible things they want, not to mention the average asshole who will instantly seek out and destroy anyone who is weaker than him.>>288053
The problem isn't people being lazy, it is about people shooting each other and selling drugs. Being a NEET and being a criminal, those are two different things. You sound like a normalfag with your anti-NEET rhetoric.
>>288117>Pseudo-science bullshit. Race doesn't matter, what matters is where you grow up. In what culture, what you learn as a child, etc.
A Black child adopted in to a White family from infanthood and raised in a White neighbourhood, is just as likely to be sub-retarded IQ and a criminal.>cringe statistics
If recorded statistics don't mean anything to you, then what does?
This should do the job, if that wizard insist that blacks are criminals because of upbringing, he's just a bait poster.
What is the source for this? According to https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country
Nigeria has a murder rate of 34.52 per 100k wheras Russia's murder rate is only 8.21 per 100k
9.8 in 2015
WorldPopulationReview's citing the 2016 figure which included wartime Congolese/Rwandan incursion deaths.
The US Virgin Islands, 76% black Americans, have a homicide rate of ~50.5 per 100,000.
The African nation of Niger, composed entirely of Nigerian Africans, has a homicide rate of ~4.0 per 100,000. Niger is one of the more murderous nations of the western African region; others, like Ghana, have a murder rate closer to 1-2 per 100,000 over the years. If racial factors alone explain the violence of blacks in America, then it would need to be the american black's white admixture that was responsible for deviating him so sharply from the ancestral strain's relatively un-murderous state.
Maybe the common problem between blacks in the US Virgin Islands, blacks in the former US colony of Liberia, and blacks in the US, has to do with something that makes them different from blacks in Niger, or in Ghana, or in the Senegal, – maybe the problem with black americans isn't even the black part, but some other part of what it is to be a black american. but what could it be, what is it that differentiates black Americans from black Nigerians, what could it possibly mean…
>BBBBut there are other crimes than murder!
Yeah, and many European nations are much more criminal than America when examined sans homicides, despite a lack of niggers. This is true of the >95% white countries such as Scotland and Ireland. Nigger-driven murder statistics are THE crime statistic of note for "the color of crime" in developed nations, yet somehow nigger-driven murder drives no such statistic in Niger. This leads to one inescapable conclusion. American blacks are much harder working than African blacks. Whereas the Nigerian prince is content to e-mail you from half a world away and hope that you will help him get access to his money by giving him a couple of your own bank account routing numbers, the American is not afraid to knuckle down, get his hands dirty, acquire an illegal firearm, put himself out there, get into harm's way, and shoot a couple of cops in order to scramble with raw energetic vitality for short term gains.
How and why, though. The American Protestant Work Ethic, having divorced from religion, has mutated into three interpretations, which we can call 'alpha variant,' 'beta variant,' and 'sigma variant.' 'Alpha' is that it is good to acquire social status and power as the leader of a group, 'beta' that it is good to be agreeable to gain power and status as a participant and contributor to a group, and 'sigma' thatthe groups are at best conveniences but more often than not hindrances. This mutation has been fully socialized into the American black and has created an entire race of sigma male sociopaths who operate on a pure and unshackled master morality and consider 'good' only as 'good for me' and opposed to 'bad for me' rather than actually adapting to an internal set of precepts and principles of slave morality which define 'good' not as good FOR but as in opposition to 'evil' which evil is often actually beneficial to its practitioners. If you adopted master morality, the laws of power, and sake up the sigma grindset, then one day perhaps you too will be able to actively reshape society AND YOURSELF the way black Americans have reshaped both America and blackness.
But what is unique to being a black American that draws one to the sigma variant of the post-protestant American work ethic?
If we consider the traits of the three variants, it seems like the inclination towards one or the other would have to be socialized in, since all relate to how one integrates into the general substance of society rather than one's IQ or athleticism. Physical attractiveness might play a part due to its importance in group inclusion and social cohesion, so if blacks were generally ugly and undesirable then the route towards a 'beta' inclination would be more difficult, but aside from that there's not much in any genetic cocktail that could lead in that direction. It would be much more a matter of how the rest of society has decided to integrate or dis-integrate the black that would inform his life path. It would be understandable that blacks would be highly disproportionately drawn to the sigma grindset if there were even greater barriers against taking seriously any possibilities in the alpha and beta life paths preventing leadership or seamless agreeableness-driven subservience as a means of group entry. One such barrier would be existing already inside of a group that is in many ways separated from and in social competition with the main body of society, since being subservient to a rival group while integrated into the one group would be a sign of poor character. If the black's race constitutes such a group, then attempting the beta-style integration into the mainstream of society would necessarily make one a traitor to one's race group. Attempting integration is necessarily a thing that any individual who exists as a physical being inside of human society will attempt and fail at at least once during their existence, but the consequences of such failure for the black under that scenario would be rejection by the main body of society and abjection by one's racial group. If this happens continuously, one might say systemically, then the best way to understand society would be through the lens of constantly reinforced enmity. There is a limit to the amount of enmity one can contain without achieving the title of "enemy." There is a limit to the extent to which one can be a peaceful and peaceable enemy. The normal relationship of enemies is called "war." The normal behavior of the individual in a state of war is tactical and strategic, not diplomatic; diplomats are able to function as diplomats precisely because they are by convention exempted from the normal experience of a state of war. Therefore the behavior to be expected of a dis-integrated American black is the behavior of an enemy which lacks political channels or clarity of leadership. Incapable of negotiation, by virtue of having no channels into society which are exempt from the state of war against society, the sigma black may still have the choice to prosecute his war defensively or offensively, with the boldness of a Hannibal or the reluctance of a Fabius, but he cannot choose to exit the state of war, as that requires either that he already be exempted from his war or that he have actual fully realized integration into a group which has channels exempted from this war. It would be possible for the group designated "black" to have a leadership channel exempted from this war, if "black" were a fully separated entity with the ability to negotiate effectively with the enemy power. Two things make this unlikely. Firstly, the sigma has already experienced alienation from the larger group of "black," to one extent or another, which is what likely instilled him with his sigma grindset and sigma mutant powers. Secondly, it being theoretically possible for black group to have channels exempted from war does not make those channels effective, and does not guarantee that those channels even exist in the first place. This is where this story begins to involve the term "systemic racism."
Well, yes, but existence in a de facto state of Hobbesian war as a consequence of an antagonistic relationship with the prevailing social hierarchy has implication for male virgins fairly specifically. For instance, wizards attempting to disown certain-other-virgins-from-banned-subreddits is strikingly similar to Chris Rock's old bit about loving being a black man and respecting black people but hating "niggers." It's not good for blacks to disown niggers, but it also isn't good for whites to have blacks disown niggers as that only increases the sigma factor and decreases the legitimacy of black channels for diplomatic resolution or even mere reduction of de facto war.
What are the sources for these numbers? The statistics I found with a quick internet search are much higher. And are these actual reported numbers or estimates? If they're reported then is it taking into the account how many violent crimes are actually getting reported in these undeveloped countries?
World Health Organization for Niger.
UNDOC for the others, which collates available and official sources and catalogues year of data collection.https://dataunodc.un.org/content/homicide-country-data
Don't be so casual in your searches.
How did the WHO arrive at this number? Is it an estimate or actual reported crimes? How are they accounting for the low level of law enforcement infrastructure and crime reporting in these developing African countries when calculating this number?
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>>288212>the statistics I found with a quick internet search>>288219>how did WHO arrive at this numberhttps://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demands-for-rigor/
I actually doubt that your 'quick internet search' figures were actually significantly higher, and were most likely lower. For example, the first hit I get off of duckduckgo showed:https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/profiles/Niger/Crime>Violent crime > Murder rate per million people37.47
Adjusted from "per million people" to "per 100,000 people" that would be 3.7, approximately half of the US murder rate. One would have to actually go to great pains to find a significantly higher figure.
Delists + retrodates most real news and information sites while promoting "trusted sources" above relevancy. DDG has been pozzed for a long time now, and yes they do sell their search statistics with IP data attached.
There is no way of knowing what the statistics you cited mean if we have no way of knowing how they were calculated.
Musk is about to buy all of Twitter and immediately privatize it, unbanning anyone who was banned for covid "disinfo"
This timeline is too fucking stupid and gay for even slightly good things to happen. Last I heard Twitter implemented a poison pill policy to forestall Musk's attempt to become majority shareholder.
>>288415>free speech in burgerland depends on some billionaire thinking it's a funny meme to grant it to people
also, note the complaints from journalists about "losing the ability to shape public discourse" when there's even the implication of sharing a platform with others
Do you really think free speech in America is decided by a private company allowing you to say nigger or not on social media?
Twitter is such a degenerative force. Internet communication is only getting worse amazingly.
twatter is effectively part of the public square, so it should be nationalized and speech on the platform subject to constitutional protection
yes, that includes being able to publish niggerkike with no repercussions
Remember he's been very outspoken against "public" companies taking official sides in trivial political matters. By going private he's probably going to divert moderation capacity away from picking on those who hold the wrong side of opinions, and focus it more on actually deleting the child pornography that stays up for hours. In its current state, a post saying "fuck niggers" will get deleted faster than a picture of a nigger raping a child.
>>288427>Internet communication is only getting worse amazingly.
I really doubt anything good is going to come from Musk buying twitter. From one billionaire to another billionaire.
all his wealth comes from the global warming scam anyway. none of his cheerleaders would actually buy a tesla to "save the earth"
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