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 No.288519[Last 50 Posts]

RUSSIAN OIL PLANTS ACTUALLY BLEW UP ON THEIR OWN. GOLD STANDARD TO RETURN, RUBBLE DOUBLES IN VALUE. DISNEY HAS THEIR MICRONATION STATUS REVOKED. MAJOR STREAMING SERVICES REPORT SUBSCRIBER LOSSES FOR FIRST TIME EVER, STOCKS DROP. MUSK BUYS TWITTER, TRUTH SOCIAL RANKED #1 ON APP STORE.

Previous thread: https://archive.ph/NjswH

 No.288520

Truth Social is Boomer Social

 No.288535

I remember the chicken or rooster was the symbol of Russia for the 2015 /hob/ thread, is there some kinda significance to it?

 No.288538

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>>288535
I don't have the original but there was an /int/ meme where a chicken in front of a russian flag asks for evidence in increasingly verbose ways. I don't know what the significance of the chicken is though.

 No.288551

>>288538
I believe the cock is an important part of Russian folklore, but there's a lot of cocks in russian folklore (baba yaga lives in a hut mounted on three chicken's legs etc) so there's too much rather than too little that could be represented by an impudent cock.

 No.288569

>>288519
>RUSSIAN OIL PLANTS ACTUALLY BLEW UP ON THEIR OWN.
Can't tell if ironic or retarded.

 No.288570

>>288538
>I don't know what the significance of the chicken is though.
Probably passive homosexuality

 No.288581

What was the point of buying twitter? Can he make money of it somehow or what?

 No.288582

>>288581
it's to entice the people that had been pushed into alternative channels back so they can be more closely surveilled

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 No.288585

>>288581
what's the point of making even more money? guy just wants to be BASED and trigger all the LIBTARDS. you can't put a pricetag on that kind of butthurt

 No.288590

>>288585
electric cars are just a scam for govtbux, he should make twitter his full time job

 No.288595

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How true is this?

 No.288596

>>288595
Russia's population consists of low IQ sub-humans

 No.288598

>>288596
But its an intriguing twist on the old meme, tough times do make stronger men, but those stronger men don't make better times but even worse times

 No.288611

>>288596
All the Eastern peoples are savage and warlike.

 No.288616

>>288595
>>288598
it's not true, the mongol empire created unprecedented prosperity throughout the middle east
the library of baghdad had it coming

 No.288617

I like to look at photos and videos of dead, injured, or otherwise suffering Ukrainians and Russians, and imagine that they are my slaves, fighting and dying for my amusement in a large and open-world gladiator arena. Thoughts?

 No.288618

>>288617
They're literally fighting and killing each other over nothing.

It's so dumb.

 No.288619

>>288618
I wouldn't call it nothing. They have managed to give me some decent entertainment for the past two months.

 No.288622

>>288619
it was cool when it started, but then declined into background static

 No.288623

How does Twitter make money?

 No.288624

>>288598

Plenty of tough men in Mexico fighting for the narcos, plenty in Africa fighting for the warlords, plenty in the middle east fighting in Afghanistan and Syria, do you think they are the ones that are going to create "better times"?

That's some dumb shit that dumb normies made up to try to make themselves important, but we all know that smart fucking people AKA nerds made our entire civilization, normies are nothing but shaved apes shitting all over the place causing nothing but problems.

Their great contribution to our civilization is "we are going to protect you from other guys like us" using the superior weapons that nerds created. They are basically a protection racket like the fucking mob. Once killer drones are a little more advance their fucking historic racket is up and they will become completely obsolete.

 No.288625

>>288624
>Plenty of tough men in Mexico fighting for the narcos, plenty in Africa fighting for the warlords, plenty in the middle east fighting in Afghanistan and Syria, do you think they are the ones that are going to create "better times"?
Yes.
> but we all know that smart fucking people AKA nerds made our entire civilization
Thomas Jefferson was a pyjama-clad softboy sitting in Congress drafting bills and occasionally sexually accosting his farm equipment, Benedict Arnold was a hardman who got his leg blown off capturing fortresses. Ben Arnold came around to supporting monarchy, and was therefore the superior epigone of civilized man, whereas Jefferson created a democracy tied to an institution of human slavery as a ridiculous unsustainable pastoral yeoman-farmer ideal which was never going to work and which resulted in a slaveholder's revolt that still stands as one of the bloodiest wars in the Western hemisphere less than 70 years after the Constitution was ratified. If America had more men like Benedict Arnold and fewer with democratic hallucinations then it would be better off today.

 No.288627

>>288624
Being a violent thug doesn't make you tough.

 No.288630

>>288627
Only prayers whispered softly at night to Adolf Hitler while masturbating make a man tough. Physical courage is a Jewish psyop intended to get you raped in prison. That's why Twitter engagement is literally the most important field of endeavor for young Aryan men. The future leaders of Aryan civilization will be forged in retweeted memes.
\o, \o, \o, \o, \o, \o,

 No.288631

>>288630
not sure if its meant satirically, but yeah crabs tweeting memes have done a lot more for nazism than american history x tough muscle street fights

 No.288636

>>288631
Street fights raised a man name Adolf to the chancellorship of Germany.
What has engagement with futa spam accounts done to match that?

 No.288673

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whats everyones thoughts (and especially ukranian wiz's) of these refugees who literally take planes from poland all the way to tijuana mexico of all places thinking they are going to come in easily and get free shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqUHgIVk1Ac

 No.288692

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Apparently, the government would literally save money if they removed all taxes and tax credits for the bottom half of the population. Let the bottom 3/5ths of earners keep all their money but don't give them extra money for every child the shit out. Fair trade, I think.

 No.288694

>>288630
You are an idiot if you think a Nazi regime is going to be a good thing for wizards

 No.288700

>>288692
I am pretty sure that isn't because of extra kids. It's because of old folk on social security/medicare/medicaid, which make up the lion share of the federal government's liabilities.

 No.288701

>>288700
I feel like I should expound on this, because I don't think people realize the incredible scale these entitlement programs have. Some facts:
- In 2021, medicare spending was $875 billion ( https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/medicare_spending_by_year )
- In 2021, medicaid spending was $762 billion ( https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/medicaid_spending_analysis )
- In 2021, social security spending was $1135 billion ( https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/social_security_spending_analysis )
- In 2021, the U.S. population was 331 million.
- Medicare/medicaid per capita spending was $4900.
- Average EU per capita healthcare spending (public AND private) was about $4800 ( https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20201202-1 ).
- In other words, the virgin U.S. spends more on medicare/medicaid alone than the average master race glorious EU healthcare chad.
- The expected growth in spending on these programs (because of demography dramatically increasing the expected outlays) make almost any other proposal to balance the U.S. federal budget meaningless. Increase taxes on the rich? O.K., it only delays the inevitable by maybe ten years. Increase corporate taxes? O.K., it maybe delays the inevitable by five years.
People keep talking about it as the third rail. Well, someone is going to electricute themselves on it whether they want to or not.

 No.288703

>>288694
This.
It's amazing how some ""wizards"" support far right ideologies that consider anyone who is not a white übermensch chad with tons of white kids, a family and work a disposable subhuman, I guess they think they would get a comfy government position if nazis take over instead of being sent to the labor camps to die.

 No.288730

>>288703
better than getting gang-banged by Africans.

 No.288738

>>288730
tsundere

 No.288743

>>288703
Wiz/pol/ don't understand that the ubermensch system hates leeches, losers, weaklings and genetically malformed people.

It's frightening that they want a spartan system that culls the weaks out.

 No.288745

>>288743
I think you underestimate how suicidal the average wizard is.

 No.288749

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Good morning sir!

 No.288751

>>288749
the whole "AMERICA IS THE EVIL PERPETRATOR ALL ALONG" argument is so tired and old. I bet nobody listening to that took his gay rant seriously.

 No.288752

>>288749
based pajeet

 No.288755

>>288751
It cant become old and tired because its true.

 No.288771

Another big gay loveable softspoken daytime news anchor got caught soliciting sex from a minor (sting). He blames the confronting team of being homophobes / anti-lgbtqia2+ for crashing his big gay date with a highschooler.

 No.288772

>>288771

Nobody cares for made up laws.

 No.288773

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>>288771
In most of Europe, the satanic crimes america freaks out about wouldn't even be crimes

maybe we should throw em outta NATO

 No.288774

>>288771
it's honestly hard to choose if I hate lgbt people more than normalscum. hilarious drama, anyways.

 No.288776

>>288773
The "minor" he was meeting was "fatherless, abused, and living with a druggy mother". This fat homo was trying to take advantage of a vulnerable kid in a very bad living situation. Age of consent laws or not, it's immoral to exploit someone's poor situation to get their pants off.

 No.288777

>>288773
Those numbers are mostly for show. In practice, if you're not underage yourself, they can just say the relationship is exploitative or the minor has been corrupted and you'll end up in jail anyways.

 No.288778

>>288776
he said he was "almost 16" and 16 is legal in most US states, so you are freaking out over a few months

 No.288779

>>288776
>Age of consent laws or not, it's immoral to exploit someone's poor situation to get their pants off.

You might want to speak to heterosexual males and what they're willing to exploit for sex, legal or not

 No.288781

>>288694
not only that but didnt hitler hated "work shy" aka neets?

like half of 4chan pol is cool with neets and half think anyone who dosent have 5 kids and a full time job/wife is a degenerate

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 No.288784

>>288630
Naziism is trashy and cringe

 No.288786

>>288781
modern 21st century wizards will have
5 kids and a full time job/wife
on the weekends, have to go drinking all night
throw mandatory bbq during super bowl
buy motorcycle and join his fellow marchers
must attack antifa on sight
attend pro-something rallies,
all men are required to sport beard and shades

failure to comply will result in your culture war kit being revoked, you'll be transported into net cafes where you will live among like minded refugees and be forced to play video games all day

 No.288787

>>288781
If you support nazism/fascism you're not a wizard, simple as.
And you may not like this, but the nice neet-y things, (bux, free housing, vacations,8 hour work week etc) were thanks to socialists, even the moderate right only cares about "muh work ethic" AKA being a massive cuck

 No.288788


>>288787

well theres always white niggers like varg who thinks you should just be a nigger and live off of welfare for having 10 kids

 No.288789

Hello sirs
Spare any classified information for this old bum

 No.288816

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 No.288817

>>288816
will these monkes have trouble attracting gfs?

 No.288818

>>288817
They are posting with us right now.

 No.288819


 No.288832

>>288787
>>288784
>>288781
It isn't just the far right. Capitalists too hate us neets because they consider us leeches. I would say the entire right side of the political spectrum can go fuck itself for all I care. Not saying leftist parties are exactly wiz-friendly but at least they aren't anti-neet/anti-leech/anti-lazy people.

 No.288838

>>288832
yeah this is why i can't support the US or NATO. both are heads of the neoliberal capitalist hydra

 No.288846

why do white succubi or "western succubi" get the most hate, when they are the only ones who voted for Trump?

https://www.thecut.com/2020/11/many-white-succubi-still-voted-for-trump-in-2020.html

 No.288847

>>288832
Capitalism is the only system where you can truly be a NEET. If you make smart investments there's nothing keeping you from living off of your savings for as long as they last. In Communism or Fascism you'd be labeled a 'social parasite' and thrown into a work camp because the fact that you managed to survive without working somehow proves that you've 'exploited people' somehow. The only way to live without working in these systems is to be a corrupt government worker, and that comes with its own risks.

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>>288838
The west is superior to everyone else by every metric

 No.288853

>>288852
>In the US you can drink tap water
Lmao

 No.288854

>>288519
Not every city is Flint

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 No.288856

>>288847
>Capitalism is the only system where you can truly be a NEET. If you make smart investments there's nothing keeping you from living off of your savings for as long as they last.

well there is pure capitalism where u can only live off investments, and usually need a semi-decent capital to start with or you'll statistically gamble it away OR tamed capitalism where you can live off bux

private enterprise with redistributive taxes is the program of all western socialists since WW2

so in that sense mixed capitalism and socialism is just a question of degree

 No.288857

The Class Struggle on Wizardchan

Wizvestors who get taxed for NEETbux/medicaid

 No.288869

>>288846
silly wiz, all realms worship succubi like goddesses but sometimes outworlder clans like the mgtow and redpillers pretend to dislike their rulers walks back into outworld portal

 No.288872

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>>288852
>The west is superior to everyone else by every metric

 No.288883

>>288847
Capitalism isn't NEET-friendly at all, as a NEET you don't have any sort of income legally in capitalism. As far as capitalists care we could all go homeless and die of poverty.

>in communism or fascism

Communism has many variations and the USSR didn't represent all of said variations. The whole thing with 'from each according to his ability to each according to his need' comes from the left, any kind of bux, welfare or free money we get is thanks to the left side of the political spectrum.

As we NEETs are parasites we can't live well in individualist societies the right side dreams about, where strong men take care of themselves. We need econimically collectivist systems to survive and these are the products of leftism.

 No.288885

>>288872
wow I sure would love to trade my quality of life in exchange for giving my psychopath overlords a few more productivity points

 No.288886

>>288883
Not one communist government allows NEETs to act as "parasites", as you put it, on the state. Communists only lobby for welfare in more capitalist societies because they know that it's an easy way to secure votes from people like you who view communism as nothing more than a free lunch with no greater repercussions than that. If the psychopaths you rally behind ever actually seize power they aren't going to construct a luxurious menagerie for all their unemployed gay activists, they're just going to line you up against the wall and execute you since you no longer serve any purpose to them.

Many many people have achieved financial independence in capitalism without being wageslaves or even working that hard. In fact, communists point to this reality as a piece of evidence as to why capitalism is bad. They fantasize about murdering these NEETs and taking their property simply because they have the gall to exist without working while remaining independent of the socialist slavery machine.

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 No.288888

>>288885
>wow I sure would love to trade my quality of life in exchange for giving my psychopath overlords a few more productivity points
how does that play into the superiority of the west, given the west consumes the commodities manufactured in those countries?

isn't access to cheap consumer goods part of your hallowed western quality of life?

 No.288889

>>288888
"Cheap" is relative. If an African bushman makes $100 a month then the prices of goods and services in his country are going to be cheaper. Doesn't mean I want to live there.

But okay, if you want to claim the title of being the world's best slave plantation then go ahead.

 No.288890

>>288886
well according to the best financial theory, the only way to efficiently invest is in the total stocks. and that gives you a nice nest egg to retire on, but isn't something a neet can get rich on unless he has a huge amount of capital to start with

anything else is just gambling, according to the best capitalist financial theories themselves.

and then you can just say, anyone can go to Vegas or play the lottery

 No.288891

>>288890
All Vegas games have a house edge. Investment is a gamble but the difference is that if you can analyze a market it's possible to give yourself an edge, which is impossible in traditional gambling.

There's also inheritance, which is a concept that is completely anathema to the communist. If you're a NEET who lives with his parents you better thank god that you live in a capitalist society, otherwise the commissar would be kicking you out of the government's new house as soon as your parents kick the bucket.

The end goal of communism is to force everyone to be completely reliant on the state for their continued survival. I can't see how anyone could put faith in a gang of ruthless career politicians (who will always be the type to rise to the top of such government bodies) to care one bit about people who refuse to work.

 No.288892

>>288886
Anarchists all over the world want a society where free housing is given even to homeless people. Again you proved you have a very narrow-minded view on the whole right vs left thing. (Right being obviously the good choice for you.) Communism isn't only the Soviet Union or North Korea, that is what you people tend to forget.

>Many many people have achieved financial independence in capitalism without being wageslaves or even working that hard. In fact, communists point to this reality as a piece of evidence as to why capitalism is bad. They fantasize about murdering these NEETs and taking their property simply because they have the gall to exist without working while remaining independent of the socialist slavery machine.

Yes, and socialists are right, because these "Neets" you mention don't have anything in common with us, they are rich normalfags who know how to play the system or were born into rich families to start with. I say kill them and take all their wealth for wizardly neets.

 No.288893

>>288891
No, the end goal of communism is a stateless and classless society, again you don't even know what you argue against. I don't thank God that I live in a capitalist society, first because it isn't pure capitalism where I live, luckily we have things like minimum wage, laws protecting workers and stuff like that here at least. Second, after the parents die what would you advise us to do? Really? In capitalism you make it sound like it is super easy to get your hands on capital. Fuck off. Not everyone is George Soros or Bill Gates.

The average wiz would be better off in a leftist society.

 No.288894

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>>288892
Leftist "anarchy" is a self-contradictory mess that only exists to give violent people a pretext to murder and steal. In theory it seeks to eliminate hierarchy itself which is like trying to eliminate gravity or the law of conservation of energy. It's a nonsense ideology which only serves the purpose of letting thugs feel good about themselves while they're abusing others.
>they are rich normalfags
You do know that you don't need to be rich in order to own property right? Simply inheriting a small house or even a parcel of land could be a huge asset in letting anyone live without working.

 No.288895

The USSR dreamed about a society where machines did all the work and people only worked 2 days a week, like automatization but with NEETbux.

For some reasons that never happened, but capitalism dreams about making people work 60 hours a week for a pittance.

 No.288896

>>288891
well for those who must work, state jobs (under any system), are generally better for the wizard personality than private sector jobs.

the way they always make fun of the test-taking A student who can't make it in the real world. In the civil service, it is a test-takers meritocracy. And not about charisma and wowing the job interview.

a lot of wizards inquire about joining the military. but the state sector has all those benefits, without the hazing and risk of dying.

Anyway everything is a spectrum and its not a binary choice between communism and minarchism. in our mixed society we have investing, medicaid and state jobs co-existing

 No.288897

>There's also inheritance, which is a concept that is completely anathema to the communist. If you're a NEET who lives with his parents you better thank god that you live in a capitalist society, otherwise the commissar would be kicking you out of the government's new house as soon as your parents kick the bucket.

Then who says capitalist inheritance is the best form to support an elite of neets?

Maybe feudal lords are better, they do even less work

 No.288898

>>288895
>but capitalism dreams about making people work 60 hours a week for a pittance.
I'm not so sure that's capitalism.

 No.288900

Why is abortion important?

 No.288901

>>288896
>Anyway everything is a spectrum and its not a binary choice between communism and minarchism
>a choice between violent coercion and violent coercion with a promise to not do it as much
yeah dude, i guess it is like just a spectrum and shit. like on slave plantations they took everything you produced but now we have a government that only takes half of what we produce, were so damn lucky. what im guessing you meant to say was a its not a binary choice between anarchy and communism (which it is). either you own yourself and what you make, or you dont, you cant halfway own yourself. if im a slave on a plantation and everyday i have to work for my master, im all the way a slave. if for 6 days of the week my master forces me to work on the plantation and 1 day of the week i can do whatever i want, im still all the way a slave. if my master lets me keep 50% of the cotton i pick, im still a slave, if he lets me keep 99% of the cotton i pick, im still a slave. its not how hard the master works me or how much he takes from me that makes me a slave, if i have a master that i must obey, i am a slave. theres either a master, or theres not, there is no in-between.

 No.288903

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>>288900
Because the Jewish Satanists base their entire hegemony around ritual blood sacrifice.

 No.288915

>>288903
Have nothing to do with jews, its all because of succubi

>>288900
Because succubi are evil and they don’t want to lose their “right” to murder unborn children but I’m not a”pro-life” either because they’re hypocrite bastards that have nothing to do with pro-life.I hate both “pro-life” and “pro-choice” both sides are hypocrite and evil I truly despise all

 No.288918

Pro lifers are just boomer christcucks that cry about destroying some "thing" devoid of life.

I'm not a feminist (god forbid) but there's no biological or even moral reason against abortion, unfortunately in this issue both sides are absolute dogshit they do deserve horrible deaths.

 No.288919

>>288894
If you aren't free to murder or steal then how is it an anarchy? Capitalism always has to rely on some kind of law by default because otherwise people wouldn't put up with its shit. Leftist anarchism is true anarchism, not your libcuck utopia where everyone works for some employer 16 hours a day for barely any money.

>You do know that you don't need to be rich in order to own property right? Simply inheriting a small house or even a parcel of land could be a huge asset in letting anyone live without working.

Um, no? How the hell does it help me not to work if I inherit my parents' house? Face it, in capitalism as an average person you either work or die. It is the most anti-neet economic system there is.

>>288895
>that never happened
Because the USSR wasn't a communist utopia nor did it even try to be one? It was just capitalism toned down a few degrees. The fact that they had private property and laws defending it should tell you something about the system not being truly about communism…

>>288897
>elite of neets
Why do you people assume you would ever hold power directly over others? I mean right-wingers usually think that in their world they would somehow be topdogs magically, be it capitalism, feudalism or fascism.

Forget about individual success in any kind of society. The very fact that we are neets proves that we are leeches who need a community we can suck the blood out of. We can't exist without a collective that carries us on its back. Collectivism is the way for wiz-neets.

>>288901
You are right, that is why capitalism is slavery exactly. Slavery is still slavery, it doesn't matter if you call it work or employment. You meant to argue against anarcho-communism but you just perfect describe capitalism and its pseudo-slavery. Thanks!!

>>288898
But that is exactly what employers and capitalists dream about. Look at 1800s capitalism, which is true capitalism and then tell me with a straight face that capitalism isn't about buttfucking the majority of the population for the benefit of the few.

>>288900
Because it makes sex easier for normalfags, one less thing they have to worry about. Abortion needs to be banned forever, along with things that make sex "safe" like condoms or pills.

I am pro life all the way. If you made it, then keep it.

 No.288921

the retard containment thread

 No.288926

>>288919
claiming to be pro life is just lip service, crabs can care less about an orphanage or special needs hospital. crabs just use it as an excuse for virtual pats and soak up in each other's awesomeness.. including you

 No.288927

>>288919
>Why do you people assume you would ever hold power directly over others? I mean right-wingers usually think that in their world they would somehow be topdogs magically, be it capitalism, feudalism or fascism

This is true though, for some reason people here think that in case of "x favorite ideology becoming true" they would be some kind of authority in a position of power, when in reality people like us would be ostracized and purged in nazism, communism or capitalism.

 No.288928

>>288918
You're Andrew.

 No.288929

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things twitter was good for:
rich, fairly intelligent assholes showing the depths of their depravity in a public forum
things twitter was awful for:
normal, mediocre assholes showing the depths of their depravity in a public forum
under musk, both of these will be protected, secured, and intensified
for some reason people want to stop this, but it would really just be twitter coming into its own and embracing the obvious truth about itself as a monster breeding pit

 No.288930

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Is the western media shutting up about Ukraine because the hohol side keeps committing crimes and the media's embarrassed about betting on that horse, or is it because Americans actually get bored of foreign wars that quickly?

 No.288931

>>288929
Twitter was always fucking awful and I hope it becomes a nuclear target for Russian nukes when the time comes.

 No.288932

>>288930
Ha! Spotted the ruZZian. Lmao, even on wizchan… I thought u guys were only in YouTube comment section

 No.288937

>>288919
>If you aren't free to murder or steal then how is it an anarchy?
>Leftist anarchism is true anarchism
so you literally just want to murder and steal, ok. i dont really see the point in arguing against your "ideology" when its clear youre entirely driven by your psychopathic urges and not the search for the truth.

 No.288939

Any thoughts on this whole "NHS disinformation board" thing?

 No.288942

>>288939
Ron Paul now thats a blast from the past

 No.288944

>>288932
Seethe hohol.

 No.288946

Azov was founded by an Israeli, is financed by an Israeli, and subscribes to the rule of a Jew (Zelynsky).

 No.288947

>>288946
then its certainly not nazi

 No.288957

>>288932
>>288947
modern 21st century wizards love to chat about birth control and belong to mossazogb when they feel like it lol

 No.288976

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>people have abortions, not succubi
>saying only cis succubi are affected by roe isn't feminism
>it's time to listen and make space for transgender individuals who have no reproductive rights

 No.288977

>>288926
I am sincerely pro-life, even though I am far leftist. I don't think succs or retarded normals should have the right to kill innocent children just because they were too lazy to take pills or wanted 20 minutes of pleasure. Don't you think it is just wrong?

>>288927
Yeah, the absolute idiots think any authoritarian regime would want wizhermits to rule and make laws, it is so retarded. Most of us never worked or work some low-level job, we would never get power over others in any system. That is why I think from the pov of some homeless guy, what would be the best system for me if I was the weakest person? And I came to realize it was anarchism, the true, collectivist variant, not the false anarcho capitalism libertarians dream about. Build a community where everyone is as equal as possible, because social outcasts like us otherwise have no way to survive or live a comfy life.

>>288937
Not from everyone, Robin Hood style suits me though. Steal/rob from rich people and give it to poor people. You can't change society via pacifism and nice words.
I'm not a psychopath, I'm not the one oppressing others and using them for slave-labor. If you had empathy and a moral sense then you would see how rotten capitalism is.

 No.288978

>>288946
Based Lavrov said Hitler had jewish blood in him too. Glad the russians are so redpilled.

 No.288980

>>288977
Can you please explain to me why you think a fetus is alive?

I'm hardly an expert on this topic, but I have yet to find any sources corroborating that they are, in fact, sentient. The top google result states: "Consciousness requires a sophisticated network of highly interconnected components, nerve cells. Its physical substrate, the thalamo-cortical complex that provides consciousness with its highly elaborate content, begins to be in place between the 24th and 28th week of gestation."

I believe that the abortion cut-off point is the 24th week except in exceptional circumstances, is it not?

 No.288981

>>288980
Look up the definition of alive.

 No.288982

>>288980
Pro-choice supporters don't care about weeks though, they just want to be able to kill their babies. In New York, for example if I remember correctly the law allows them to kill their babies at whatever point they want to.

A fetus is a proto-baby. You don't kill babies, as far as I am concerned. It is amoral to do so. Abortion is just about making things easier for whores and their boyfriends in essence. I don't feel any sympathy for people like that.

Nobody holds a gun to their heads and tells them to have sex at all cost.

 No.288983

>>288981
I see.

 No.288984

>>288982
>Pro-choice supporters don't care about weeks though, they just want to be able to kill their babies.
Allow me to state that I am in disagreement with anyone pushing for the abortion cut off point to be pushed further back. It may even be better to make it a bit earlier.

>In New York, for example if I remember correctly the law allows them to kill their babies at whatever point they want to.

Well, that's bad, I think.

>A fetus is a proto-baby. You don't kill babies, as far as I am concerned. It is amoral to do so.

On the contrary, if a fetus is not aborted prior to developing sentience, I see this as a tragedy. The creation of new sentience should be prevented at all costs.

 No.288985

>>288980
>Can you please explain to me why you think a fetus is alive? I'm hardly an expert on this topic, but I have yet to find any sources corroborating that they are, in fact, sentient.
If being alive is synonymous with sentience then you will encounter ethical problems in cases of induced comas or brain death. Hospitals don't issue death certificates until the person is declared medically dead (no circulation), so doctors certainly don't correlate life with sentience.

 No.288988

>>288985
"Alive" was probably a clumsy term to use. That term doesn't really mean anything to me unless it's correlated with a concept of sentience. A plant is also 'alive' - But I don't afford plants any ethical consideration. If plants were 'sentient' however, this would be a different story.

 No.288991

>>288988
So would you view the killing of a person in a medically induced coma who is currently unconscious and not sentient as murder? Why or why not?

 No.288992

>>288986
Out of the endless parallels retards draw to the Nazis, CCP takes the cake for being the dumbest one. Insulting to the Nazis to compare them to apathetic, incompetent and superficial bugmen. China is a shithole. It's not going to be leading anything ever lol.

 No.288994

>>288991
The short version: Let's grant that a coma patient has no sentient experience whatsoever. I believe, that if it were certain they would never wake up, they may as well be dead. If there were a chance they would wake up, however, by killing them, you would be depriving them of a future sentient experience (This is different from a fetus: A fetus does not exist as a sentient being in the first place, and ergo, could not be 'deprived' of any future experience until roughly the 24th week.)

Either way, it would be a murder, though. Murder is defined as the causing of another persons death, and death is defined medically - It doesn't have anything to do, perse, with sentience.

 No.288998

>>288994
>This is different from a fetus: A fetus does not exist as a sentient being in the first place, and ergo, could not be 'deprived' of any future experience until roughly the 24th week
This doesn't logically follow.

 No.289001

>>288998
Maybe not, but the point is that it doesn't matter if the fetus does not have a future conscious experience, because they do not exist, have never existed, and cannot desire to exist.

 No.289002

>>288988
>"Alive" was probably a clumsy term to use. That term doesn't really mean anything to me unless it's correlated with a concept of sentience.
>>288994
>The short version: Let's grant that a coma patient has no sentient experience whatsoever. I believe, that if it were certain they would never wake up, they may as well be dead. If there were a chance they would wake up, however, by killing them, you would be depriving them of a future sentient experience (This is different from a fetus: A fetus does not exist as a sentient being in the first place, and ergo, could not be 'deprived' of any future experience until roughly the 24th week.)
Let's say ascribing value to sentience that's temporally contingent is similarly clumsy. Is your strategy just to continually redefine what "alive" and "sentient" means until it results in the outcome you want?

After several attempts you might develop a rube goldberg machine of concepts nobody can falsify, and will you conclude at that point that's your position?

 No.289003

>>289001
The fetus does exist though. And the desire of a fetus to live is the same as the desire of a comatose person to live.

 No.289004

>>289002
I thought about it, and I actually think you're right. I'm changing my position: I think it would be alright to kill the coma patient.

 No.289005

>>288996
I know, I was just commenting about it since I see people say this shit a lot unironically, both in praise and criticism.

 No.289006

>>289004
What about killing someone while they're in delta wave sleep?

 No.289008

>>289004
I'm not the wiz you're talking about comas with, I only wrote >>288985. Personally, I wouldn't accept that the value of sentience is contingent on future experiences, as it's incestuous to imply what's valuable about perception is it's own temporal ordering. The ethical problems this would raise for you would be acute in cases of amnesia and dementia, because these people have lost the ability to place their experiences in time. Wouldn't their lives be worth less by this metric?

 No.289009

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>>289006
best time to do it

 No.289015

>>288977
>Far left
>but believes in spooks like muh morality

NGMI.

 No.289023

>turn on radio
>whining about abortion in the us

why why why. I don't even live there. This is pissing me off on so many levels, why is it such a big deal? What's with the constant progressive preaching and sanctimonious attitude when it comes to these matters. Like you're a monster for not holding the politically correct opinion on that, or homosexuals marriage, or the death penalty and what have you.

 No.289024

>>289023
We're all living in Amerika sadly. And since most western countries are pozzed with feminism, anything that remotely affects shitccubi or forces them to assume an iota of responsibility will be screeched about.

 No.289028

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LMAO

 No.289029

>>288944
get back to your shithole russia, ebaniy кацап!

 No.289033

>>289023
Might as well be living in America with all the imported shit food, the McDonald's, KFC's and Starbucks, all the English used in advertising and branding, the mountains of lard people have become and the constant obsession about America, their politics and their current things ever since some nigger became president over there. Can't wait for the nuke to drop on them.

 No.289034

All this discussion about abortion, heh. Is the pro-abortion poster here some succ? Why would anyone be pro-abortion on a site for male outsider virgins?

>>289015
Morality is inevitable. You can't get around it simply. It's just how you look at the world.

>>289023
You have a problem with our "free and objective" press? Come on, what are you, a fascist? :^)

This is the biggest issue of 1st world countries, that wymen are/aren't allowed to kill their children. Or if trannies can use separate toilets.

 No.289035

>>289028
yes it's so hilarious that it takes time for twitter to be updated to new information

 No.289037

>>289033
It is incredible how partisan they are. You could sum it up like this: republicans=bad / democrats=good
I am not being hyperbolic, journalists and media talking heads here in europe are basically as insufferable and hypocritical as your average american blue check liberal. The latter at least has the excuse of having adversaries ideologically, as shallow and grotesquely spectular their infighting is, but over here even an ultra conservative would get roasted for being anti-abortion or pro death penalty.
I knew from the instant it blew up that this roe wade nonsense would make them go apeshit but it's still driving me mad.

 No.289044

>>289034
birth is demiurgic.

 No.289063

>>289037
>republicans=bad / democrats=good
Not just republicans are given shit, basically anyone who holds different opinions than the liberal capitalist mainstream. You can be a leftist for all they care but if you speak one word against succubi or muslims or gays then you will be the victim of some witch hunt.

>>289044
Let everyone decide what to do with his or her life, I think. Not everyone hates life, in fact most people enjoy it quite much. I like my life too and I am grateful for being alive.

 No.289066

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 No.289067

CONSENSUS CRACKING
Example: bots and raids
TOPIC DILUTION
Example: JOHNNY DEPP TRIAL
INFORMATION COLLECTION
Example: hey where do you guys work/live?
ANGER TROLLING
Example: BLM, DEMONCRATS, REPUBLIDUMBS, LIBTARDS

Hmmm, I'm missing one. Oh, right!

FORUM SLIDING
Example: Guys, what do you think about ABORTION?

 No.289068

>>289067
Seriously though, this is what pisses me off about CRT, abortion, trannies, and all of that. There are much, much larger and bigger existential threats. Even if you don't agree that these are 'threats' you at least agree that there are political topics that are way, WAY more important than these bullshit social issues. E.g., the debt, threat of nuclear war, pandemic, or climate change. Again, you might say, "The pandemic was a bullshit farce" (and I'd agree), but that topic is far, far more important than CRT.

 No.289070

>>289068
So make a post discussing one of those topics instead of complaining that people are talking about stuff you don't like.

 No.289074

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>>289068
>i want to go back to universalizing issues like the environment, nuclear disarmament, disease, economics, and debt
>and i don't want to talk about identity or history, because that contradicts my brand of politics

 No.289082

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>>289070
This is the politics thread. This is exactly where you'd bring up something like this.
>>289074
Alright, let's do a test. Where would you place these issues on an Eisenhower matrix/plot?

 No.289083

>>289082
only 3 of those max matter on any level to begin with

 No.289084

>>289083
Exactly my point.

 No.289085

>>289082
Climate change, gun bans, civil asset forfeiture, drug wars are the only ones on there that matter. Nukes don't exist. The rest is unimportant. Drug wars largely falls under "we need to stop immigration entirely" but nothing will change and the world will get worse and worse forever until we die

 No.289086

Will Ukrainian-Russian relations recover? It saddens me that east europe is not one big happy family. It never was of course, but there's no reason it can't be

 No.289092

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>>289082
Aight, I'll bite.

 No.289097

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>>289082
>Where would you place these issues on an Eisenhower matrix/plot?

 No.289098

>>289082
Why aren't Niggers and jews on that list?

 No.289099

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 No.289101

So wizards, individualism or collectivism? Which one do you prefer and why?

 No.289103

>>289101
They both have their downsides. Individualism and Collectivism is a false dichotomy fabricated by opportunists from either side. Individualists are cannibals who get their rhetoric from a Jewish succubus's erotic novel and 20th century billionaire oil tycoon propaganda books. Whether you centralize that into one institution or make a feudal collection of a bunch of cannibalistic boomers, life is garbage.

 No.289105

>>289101
That we oscillate between describing collectives as contemporaneous individuals and persistent lineages tells you someone is lying, so it's probably time to synthesize the idea into collectives-as-individuals or individuals-as-collectives

 No.289106

The thing with abortion is that one of those unwanted chaos spawns from their destructive environment will grow up one day and might cross path's with anti social people like us and start shit. It's less scum fucks to have to encounter and abortion helps filter out the aggresive future chads

 No.289114

>>289106
>abortion helps filter out the aggresive
>guy opens door to eugenics

 No.289115

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>>289106
Isn't there a chapter in Freakonomics about how abortion was reducing race disparities because black people yeet fetuses at a much higher rate?
>>289101
It seems to me that individualism can at worst just be 'bad' and at best be just 'good'. Whereas collectivism at best can maybe a little better, but at worst can be THE WORST POSSIBLE HELL YOU COULD NOT EVEN IMAGINE.
>>289099
lol at the trash can, but if you aren't trolling, you mind explaining some of your choices there?

 No.289119

>>289115
>It seems to me that individualism can at worst just be 'bad' and at best be just 'good'. Whereas collectivism at best can maybe a little better, but at worst can be THE WORST POSSIBLE HELL YOU COULD NOT EVEN IMAGINE.
Ask yourself why oil tycoons have been pushing Individualism into consensus for the last 2 centuries and what they would do with the end result of that.

 No.289122

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>>289119
Actually, it's the opposite. Why have most socialist movements been sponsored by big business?

 No.289123

>>289122
Even if that were true, how does it argue that I should believe actual propaganda pushed by billionaires? You do realize things like Atlas Shrugged and Carnegie self-help books are pushed by billionaires for a reason? Don't even start going Direction-Brain on me.

 No.289125

>>289123
O.K.. Then don't believe actual propaganda pushed by billionaires, i.e., socialism. Socialism is propaganda that's pushed by and for billionaires.

 No.289129

>>289125
Continue conflating capitalism and socialism, bud. You're just making a fool of yourself instead of making a point

 No.289132

good job fools, next they will target another group of people even if you ignore this moralfag drama

One major likely target is the information collected by Internet service providers, which privacy and civil liberties advocates say has historically been used by agencies to identify individuals, verify their location and connect them to relevant groups.
For succubi who may still seek abortions amid an expected wave of crackdowns later this year, that could mean that logging onto a health-care clinic’s WiFi or browsing related sites from your cellphone or desktop may create an opening for agencies to seize their data and mount a case.
“There's a long history of ISPs working relatively closely with law enforcement,” said Justin Brookman, director of privacy and technology policy at Consumer Reports.

 No.289133

but I have nothing to hide!
if they pulled this on the unvaxxed or neets you'd be against it, the mask comes off pun intended

The new rules will put a microscope on decisions by telecom giants, including AT&T, Comcast and Verizon, who may find themselves in a political minefield if pressed to fork over data from their customers to build an antiabortion case.
“It's very likely that we'll see more pressure on companies to turn over that data,” Tsukayama said.
That could put telecom giants squarely into the crosshairs of lawmakers in Washington who have typically focused more of their fury on technology giants like Google and Apple who will likely be facing their own data demands.
Cynthia Conti-Cook, a technology fellow at the Ford Foundation, said law enforcement agencies in the past have often used warrants for geofencing data — which can be used to link individuals to a specific location — to connect people to cases. It’s even been used commercially, she noted, including by advertisers targeting people at Planned Parenthood.
Another way in which law enforcement has used data from Internet service providers to build their cases, Conti-Cook said, is to collect information that can link an individual to a specific computer or IP address.
“It's very clear how probable and how accessible a lot of these tools are,” she said.
There are broad sources law enforcement agencies tap into to get data from suspects, including phone carriers, social media platforms, search engines and third-party data brokers. Privacy advocates said they are all likely to see more demands if Roe v. Wade is indeed overturned.
But Conti-Cook said connecting to the Internet through a personal device can pose unique risks because it can connect a web of people to an activity.
That could create heightened legal risks in states that seek to criminalize not only those who get abortions, but also those who provide them or facilitate the process, as Texas’s restrictive law has done.
“The level of risk that digital devices enter into any network that is supporting people, assisting people in seeking abortions, is that once one piece of the puzzle is in the hands of law enforcement … the potential to expose the network is there,” she said.

 No.289134

>>289133
>>289132
I'm against this information collection. For, or from, everyone. Doesn't matter if it's a moid going in for her fifth abortion this year, or a wiz who hasn't left their apartment for five years. I'm not sure how to NOT get personal data collected, outside of "not being on/deleting social media" tier stuff

 No.289137

>>289129
I'm sorry, but I don't think so. There is enormous precedence for this. Especially so in the progressive era with Perkins and Rockefeller supporting these individuals privately, and businessmen using the banner of socialism as a means to create government (socialist) enforced monopolies. It continues to today with Gates supporting Agenda 21, and Soros' WEF "great reset". That's a lot of historical precedence to push aside. If there is a conflation between capitalism and socialism going on here, then it's an important one that shows the distinction between our two viewpoints and how someone like myself could be a vehement detractor of socialism and you the opposite.

 No.289138

>billionaires are actually socialist
why are americans like this

 No.289143

>>289063
>Let everyone decide what to do with his or her life
Quick question:
In Europe; guns and pentobarbital, two things that lead to a quick and painless death when done correctly, are illegal and people in America want guns banned because of a lot of people killing themselves with them. What are your thoughts on this, do you feel that pentobarbital and guns should be legal and freely available to people who want to commit suicide or not?
Unlike abortion the person killing themselves have a functional brain and have a choice to live or die

 No.289148

>>289143
I worded the last bit incorrectly, apologies. I meant to say unlike abortion, someone who is killing themselves are fully able to make the decision to do so themselves unlike an abortion

 No.289150

>>289103
>life is garbage
You could answer that to every political problem, though. What does it matter lol, life is garbage anyway!

I think what you said about individualism is incorrect. There are many great things that exist nowadays because of great individuals, most people were pretty useless if you look at history.

To make things clear, by individualism I don't mean capitalism. Capitalism is just about who can pile up more money and cheat the most out of others' pockets.

>>289105
It is impossible of course to fully make a difference between the two approaches, but I don't think the solution is some lukewarm middle ground. To me individualism seems like a much more just and correct way than collectivism.
Those who possess unique thoughts and have creative ideas should be granted the opportunity to fully develop their talents. Ultimately, society is carried on by those who are extra-ordinary and has some exceptional merit. It is only right to reward might, talent and effort.

>>289115
Collectivism just creates more herd animals who only know how to do basic work and how to obey norms and customs. It is exactly about making people more helpless and more reliant on Daddy Government.

>>289143
Yes, I don't see anything wrong with suicide. Nobody owes the collective anything. What you do with your life is your business.
I am against guns being available to the general population, though. There is absolutely no need for that, it just leads to more pointless violence and murders.

 No.289160

>>289134
you realize crabs are pro-voyeur fetish enablers? ( ._.) these norman bois cheered for the militarization of the internet (where you and me hang out all day) dude but crabs gaslight and call me schizo on this very site, I can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt…

lol lmao: operation e-bootlick was a success

Autonymous Nexus @Doemela_IX is arrested because of a investigation into the #YellowVests #GiletsJaunes #YPG #PKK by the French public prosecutor's department.

With the courage behind it, radiating from the cyber guerrillas of the south to the rich countries of the north, CgAn emerged in the early 2010s to join forces in solidarity with Anonymous. CgAn took up the fight against states. The cyber guerrilla was the rebellion against an authoritarian society, against isolation and competition. He was the rebellion for another social and cultural reality. In the wake of global liberation attempts, the time was ripe for a decisive struggle that would no longer accept the pseudo-natural legitimacy of the system and seriously wanted to overcome it.

P.S. Do not use cyberguerrilla.org cyberguerrilla.info Agents of the states have access to these (sub)domains

 No.289161

>>289160
What are you on about

 No.289163

>>289150
>Yes, I don't see anything wrong with suicide… I am against guns being available to the general population.
So do you think poisons such as pentobarbital shouldnt be illegal and be freely available for the public to use?

 No.289164

>>289163
anything that kills people should be as publicly available as drinking water and park bathrooms

 No.289165

>>289137
>corporations giving stuff to poors is the same as socialism

Socialism is what you described with an extra step, and party.

 No.289167

>>289163
pro-lifers are a funny bunch huh? they all draw the line somewhere, some further than others.
>>289161
while your clique is too busy calling out your eternal adversary for pronouns you support this willingly, next crabs will bootlick the world into labeling wifi a terrorist tool because neets use it

According to officials investigating the Mumbai attacks, the terrorists used images from Google Earth to help learn their way around. This isn’t the first time Google Earth has been charged with helping terrorists: in 2007, Google Earth images of British military bases were found in the homes of Iraqi insurgents. Incidents such as these have led many governments to demand that Google remove or blur images of sensitive locations: military bases, nuclear reactors, government buildings, and so on. An Indian court has been asked to ban Google Earth entirely.

Of course, all of this is exacerbated by open-wireless access, which has been repeatedly labelled a terrorist tool and which has been the object of attempted bans.

https://thenextweb.com/news/muting-your-mic-doesnt-stop-big-tech-recording-your-audio

 No.289169

>>289167
>pro-lifers are a funny bunch huh? they all draw the line somewhere, some further than others.
I'm >>289163 and I dont really have a problem with the pro-life guy allowing easy-to-do suicide but not abortion. I may be pro-choice but I can understand why some people arent pro-choice and I am fine with it, I do however dislike people who try and make suicide very hard to accomplish because unlike abortions the suicider isnt a foetus with no ability to make choices.

 No.289170

>>289163
Yes, why not? Though maybe it would be better to have government controlled suicide booths for people who wanted to die and to use poisons like that there only.

>>289167
>pro-lifers are a funny bunch
Suicide, abortion and the death penalty are all completely different topics. I support the death penalty and don't have any problems with people throwing their own lives away. However, abortion is just succubi killing their children because they are too lazy and don't want to take care of them, that is just messed up.

>>289165
Socialism in practice is usually about taking away from the rich and giving money to one particular part of poor people, namely party members or those who led the revolution and making them the new ruling caste. While other poor people are left to rot and in worse cases they are even made more miserable.

 No.289174

>>289170
Millionaires giving away their money isn't the same as millionaires having their money forcefully taken away. Keep making a fool of yourself though

 No.289176

>>289169
>>289170
have a feeling that what I typed is interpreted wrong, wasn't attacking anyone personally. the suicide booth is already here folks,I am sure you're familiar with the sarco pod but will the life cult be against it?

perhaps we will be able to pay it off in blood or they will do massive organ harvesting to cover the costs?

 No.289177

>>289133
just get your vaccine already you fucking sissy

 No.289180

>>289177
after I inject your mom lol

 No.289182

>>289138
I'm a Luxembourger.
>>289170
I'd say socialism in practice is a good exercise in political rent-seeking by the rich.

 No.289188

US army just posted cringe

 No.289191

>>289174
I'm not the other guy you were talking with. Just jumped in to say my thoughts on socialism. I agree with you about
>Millionaires giving away their money isn't the same as millionaires having their money forcefully taken away.

>>289182
What do you mean? You can say lots of shit about communism and socialism but it is exactly about changing the current order of things and therefore creating new ruling castes. Socialism is always anti-rich people, because it wants to turn things upside down.

 No.289193

>>289188
What the fuark

 No.289196

>>289188
>this is how shills see themselves when they spam interracial porn and corporate wojak edits

 No.289197

Marxists and other leftists suggest that elite billionaires would only promote capitalist ideology but they are wrong because they don't understand that the objective of the elite billionaires is monopoly. And what is socialism, if not a monopoly?

22:30 of embed for history backing this up.

 No.289198

>>289188
What the fuck. This is an advertisement I'd expect to see in a dystopian film criticizing the U.S. military, not one promoting it.

 No.289200

>>289197
>if left right you're right you're left left up down right left up right
Missing the point repeatedly because you're emotionally attached to a false dichotomy you've been programmed to believe in.

 No.289217

>>289197
How do billionaires profit from state socialism? It is exactly about centralizing wealth and capital, so their money would be taken away.

Rich people are pro-free market for a reason. Just think about it…

 No.289223

>>289197
>Socialism is when the government and the rich do stuff together.
oh wow another brainlet.

 No.289224

The rich fear socialism because in socialism all their wealth would be taken by force and redistributed, the workers of their companies would be the leaders and they would be forced to work in the fields or get killed by peoples courts.

If the rich are so comfy in this ""leftist"" current dystopia, maybe, just maybe it isnt leftist at all

 No.289226

>>289224
>>289217
Ask yourself who exactly will be taking all this wealth in your scenario.

 No.289227

>>289226
The State.

 No.289231

>>289217
Are you asking how you profit from being granted government privileges?

Attached is some discussion of the book "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution" about how rich, incredibly wealthy, U.S. and British bankers were funding the Russian revolution. There is a similarly named book "Wall Street and the Russian Revolution: 1905-1925" with the same theme. Although I am embedding Sutton here, the latter book by Spence did a much better job with his sources and his history.

 No.289243


 No.289245

>>289226
The leaders of the revolution, like I said. It happened during the formation of every socialist/commie regime in history.

>>289231
This is some straight retarded shit. Wall Street and Communists together, yeah right. It is a typical right-wing conspiracy theory, which portrays a world where everyone is either good (meaning a right-winger) or bad (meaning not a right-winger). The world doesn't work like that, there different factions and parties, the world isn't black and white.

>how rich, incredibly wealthy, U.S. and British bankers were funding the Russian revolution. There is a similarly named book "Wall Street and the Russian Revolution

Maybe they were funding it because it was in their interest to do so, not because they were actual communists. The US armed syrian terrorists and other muslim radicals, that doesn't mean the US is a muslim state. Same in this case.

 No.289250

>>289245
So, hypothetically. If the current billionaires decided that they wanted to be the ones who led "the revolution" then all of the powers of monopoly over violence and the ability to create and enforce laws as they please would fall to these billionaires, correct?
>Maybe they were funding it because it was in their interest to do so, not because they were actual communists
Spoiler: none of the people who actually succeed at violently seizing state power are doing so for moral reasons.

 No.289251

>>289250
You don't understand what revolution or communism means and what are their consequences. Billionaires can't lead revolutions, since they are already the elite of the current order. Why would they rebel in a world where they already rule most things? Rich people and aristocrats never rose up against the system that benefited them.

>none of the people who actually succeed at violently seizing state power are doing so for moral reasons

Never said that. But to fund communist movements and to be actually communist are two different things. Rich people or the elite of a country can fund revolutionary movements in other countries because they want to ruin that country or destabilize it for example.

You confuse communism and socialism with liberal capitalist SJW tyranny.

 No.289253

Reminder that Buffet, one of the richest men in the world, supports higher tax rates and larger government. Similarly for Gates; take a look at what his Foundation supports.

>>289245
>Maybe they were funding it because it was in their interest to do so, not because they were actual communists. The US armed syrian terrorists and other muslim radicals, that doesn't mean the US is a muslim state. Same in this case.
If someone supports socialists policies, but says he isn't a socialist…does what he says he is matter?
>This is some straight retarded shit. Wall Street and Communists together, yeah right. It is a typical right-wing conspiracy theory, which portrays a world where everyone is either good (meaning a right-winger) or bad (meaning not a right-winger). The world doesn't work like that, there different factions and parties, the world isn't black and white.
That's distracting from the fact that a lot of billionaires support socialism. I don't even know why this should be so upsetting to you. Shouldn't socialism be good regardless of who is supporting it?

 No.289258

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>putler has cancer, dementia, and parkinsons
How does he balance this with his meth addiction?

 No.289259

>>289253
Of course they support a bigger government, is their government after all! It literally works for people like them, to keep them happy and rich.

Ask them if they would like a bigger government, but Soviet Union or Cuba style.

 No.289260

>>289258
That's all a lie, are you expecting me to believe that the guy is actually dying?

 No.289261

>>289259
Isn't that a good argument to reduce government, period? Isn't it a little naive to think that you could make government work for you or for the people's sake, when it's always the pigs who stay in control of it, regardless of whether it's the U.S. or U.S.S.R.?

 No.289262

>>289253
>>289259
'tax the rich' is the new 'black lives matter'

 No.289264

>>289253
>Reminder that Buffet, one of the richest men in the world, supports higher tax rates and larger government.
Yes, we all know that Buffet is an ironclad antisocialist who would do literally anything to oppose syndicalism and worker ownership of the means of production, particularly since he is a stock billionaire and therefore his fortune is based entirely on alienating workers from ownership of their labor, the means by which their labor is transformed into products, the products they create, and the exchange of said products.
>>289261
Sort of, though the best arguments for reducing the government period were provided by Engels and by Trotsky. Particularly Trotsky, as he formalized the argument that all taxation is necessarily mathematically reducible to taxation/exploitation levied on the working class.
However, as Trotsky also pointed out, anarchism has no mechanism for transition of property forms from the state-enforced private property of the bourgeoise to workers' syndicates. Transition via anarchist insurrection is a nonstarter. Therefore the peeling back of the apparatus of the state must be calculated to maximize worker ownership over the product of their work, the means by which their work is transformed into products, and their own input into the system of production.
There were several mistakes that have been made in the past as a result of pursuit of purity of theory, which must also be avoided. For instance, the old Vulgar Marxist opposition to the establishment of a minimum wage, or increases to minimum wages, only alienated the section of the working class vulnerable to hyperexploitation. The elimination of all facets of state enforcement and expansion of private property will likewise in the short term serve to push away various sections of the working class. As an example, state enforcement of much of the regulation in the petroleum sector, which largely served as regulatory capture to enforce the capital owner's hegemony at the expense of refinery unions and individual vehicle owners cannot be untangled at a blow, as safety, health and ecology measures are tied up in the very same bourgeoise regulations. The complexity of such critical industrial regulation systems is by design, and the benefit of said design for the consolidation of capital cannot be unraveled from health, safety, and ecological considerations at a glance. Therefore both seizure of the state and abolition of the state are completely unable to take us even one inch closer to socialism.

That is why systemic unionization as the path towards syndicalism is the only path forward.

 No.289267

>>289138
America is a social experiment to see how quickly they can render the meaning of words into absolute garbage. And then apply their garbage onto the rest of the world.

 No.289268

>>289253
Giving money to communist movements isn't the same as being a communist, yet again I'm forced to tell you this.

You can call rich people giving money to the massess socialism but that has nothing to do with socialism yet again. Willful altruism and the redistribution of capital via revolution are two different things.

>>289261
I never trust any kind of government, same goes for CEOs and businessmen who want to lead us to "the path of light and truth".

>>289262
So basically people say it in public to virtue signal to others while in their private life they continue to be racists/or pro-free market?

 No.289269

>>289261
Of course, that's why socialism only uses the "state" as part of its transitional period towards communism where no state exists.

 No.289270

>>289262
The fact that some people argue for "taxing the rich" just shows how fucked up things are, even in a democratic and "liberal" society just like the ones soros loves so much taxing the rich (and everyone else) would be something so obvious, so natural that it would be weird to advocate for such a thing, it would be like saying "allow us to take naps".

The current dystopia is so bad that even even basic liberal capitalism is a non starter, its just a criminal system designed to keep the elites rich and powerful, obviously by non democratic means.

 No.289271

>>289270
It is the same shit with being all for peace and love and yet most people agree with sending millions of dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine.

Playing the liberal, accepting, peaceful, loving good man is the new virtue signaling. Before this, we had christians being hypocrites. The trends changed slightly but the core of things is the same.

 No.289272

>>289268
I've been more interested in this whole "Are billionaires socialists?" discussion more because of your reaction to it. You act as if it would destroy the entire edifice of communism if it were true. That, I think, is far more interesting than anything that has been said.

 No.289295

>>289272
You were talking with multiple persons, I jumped in recently only.

But you don't understand the basic concept that revolutions can't be led by people who already rule..I mean really? Who are these "socialist billionaires" of yours rebelling against? Themselves??? If they run the system already then why allign themselves with an ideology that relies on revolution and wants to create a new world through force?

You implying rich people can be leading members of a revolutionary ideology or movement is the same kind of retarded as saying atheists can be christians too or that blacks can be nazis too.

 No.289296

The only reason why millionaires supported the Russian revolution (at first) was because they wanted to fuck with Russia and Germany and it was the best way to do so, they never expected them to win anyway, they supported Kerensky far more.

The second the Bolsheviks took power
for real they literally invaded Russia trying to stop them, the only thing that prevented a takeover was that the red army was actually quite efficient and the whole Europe was to wrecked by the war to get into another, also there was the danger of more worker revolutions in Europe.

 No.289297

>>289295
> blacks can be nazis too
There were actually blacks fighting for the Wehrmacht though.

 No.289298

>>289258
If Hitler was a one-balled, gay, african-jewish meth, heroin, roid and bull semen addict, then Putin can be a senile, shaking, walking tumour meth addict.
>>289297
And niggers can be nazis.

 No.289299

>>289298
being jewish is not a bad thing. You should be more tolerative and less ignorant

 No.289300

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>>289299
>being jewish is not a bad thing. You should be more tolerative
when will jews be tolerant of palestinians?

 No.289301

>>289300
ok what is the source of this image? it's not that big i just looked it up. is this propaganda

 No.289303


 No.289305

>>289303
no, i meant the size of the tractor, they aren't that big. they are 4m in height. average person height of 2m, and since the people in that photo are closer to the camera than the tractor… it would mean the tractor is like 8m or something ridiculous. so i'm wondering is this image propaganda to make the tractor seem scarier than it really is

 No.289306

Yes being jewish is not a crime, be more supportive of Jews and Israel goy

 No.289309

>>289306
Wizards should be gay and merry

 No.289310


 No.289312

>>289305
which is more tolerant, a 4m or 8m armored bulldozer?

 No.289314

>>289312
8m.
mechanical tolerances pretty much always have to scale up with your design.
otherwise you wind up paying way more for the frame.

 No.289316

>>289314
which is the more humane munition for israeli jets to drop on civilians in gaza and the west bank, white phosphorus or cluster bombs?

 No.289330

The /pol/tard shooter had furry porn on his livestream.

Like why are modern-day shooters so much more mentally retarded and crazier than previous shooters?

Like they used to be people who were bullied at school or workplace or something coherent.

The ghost succubus shooter,the brony shooter, the closet fag shooter, elliot rodgers etc are what comes out today.

 No.289332

>>289330
evaporative distillation
there are fewer spree killers overall
this means that the going postal, amok killers are going to be more and more of a core of people who would not function in any society at all
which is going to be more and more about physical defects in the brain than specific motivating circumstances

like stephen paddock
successful businessman, married, disliked country music, it's just obvious that he was going to try to murder 600 people and successfully get ~50, that's just what people like that are like on the inside
all married men should be jailed pre-emptively and all businessmen should be subjugated to forceful psychiatric intervention to prevent future vegas shootings

 No.289333

>>289332
this one has been almost completely forgotten, despite the unusual profile, lack of motive and high number of casualties.

 No.289335

>>289296
The Truth.

>>289297
>>289298
Blacks can't be nazis, national socialism is an exclusive ideology to begin with. You can't be a jew/black/gay/etc and be a nazi at the same time. I know it is trendy nowdays to self-identify as whatever you want, even if it is completely mutually exclusive, like being gay and christian at the same time.

>>289330
Mass shooters were never exactly the most sane persons around. And what about furry porn? How does it play into this at all? Many people masturbate to shit like that and they don't become spree killers.

But if you want to talk about shooters and spree killers let's talk about them. I think one idiot creates 100 idiots, so it is a self-fueling circle. The more shooters/spree killers appear the more there will be of them because teenagers and young people want to prove how badass they are to everyone. This has always been the case but with guns in the game it is very easy to do serious damage even if you are one person only.

That and we live in a very intolerant society that bullies everyone who is genuinely different from the herd, like us wizards and crabs for example. If you don't get laid by the age of 13 you are a failure nowadays, it is a shit hyper-competitive society we have and it will cause its own destruction soon, at least one can hope.

 No.289350

>>289300
>idf d9
>nicknamed Doobi (Hebrew: דובי, for teddy bear)
Jews have a strange sense of humour

 No.289352

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>>289188
>paid to brag about being paid to lie
american military continues to impress
>>289258
when the hell is this war going to end so my stocks can go up and i can lie to myself about how that means my life is going to go okay again?

 No.289353

>>289332
this dislike of country music, i understand it entirely, but where are you getting this? i thought i had heard another non-country concert had been considered the week before.

 No.289354

>>289352
you should reduce the panels of that meme by half somehow

 No.289355

>>289335
>And what about furry porn?
Did you miss the bottom half of my post? My question was why are all zoomer era shooters all crazier than earlier shooters?

>That and we live in a very intolerant society that bullies everyone who is genuinely different from the herd, like us wizards and crabs for example.

Cool, but this has always been true.

>If you don't get laid by the age of 13 you are a failure nowadays, it is a shit hyper-competitive society we have and it will cause its own destruction soon, at least one can hope.

Tbh, I can't tell if society is hyper-competitive or hyper-inclusive right now, because it seems like BOTH are true at the same time.

 No.289356

>>289335
>That and we live in a very intolerant society that bullies everyone who is genuinely different from the herd, like us wizards and crabs for example. If you don't get laid by the age of 13 you are a failure nowadays
You are an idiot, that is the most retarded thing I have ever heard, go back to whatever crab website you came from

 No.289357

>>289352
why the redundant question at the end? The author is making it obvious that rooting for Russia and China is the smartest choice

 No.289358

>>289356
Not him but being a wizard really affects the way people perceive you. I don't know why you're being angry at him.

 No.289359

>>289358
not having sex by 13 years old doesn't make you a failure, that is the most retarded thing I've ever seen written

 No.289364

>>289352
This looks like it was made by some /leftypol/ faggot. Because it's not funny, is too long, at bring up capitalism too much.

 No.289368

>>289359
According to society you fucking moron. A wizard exists inside society unless they live apart from it ala Ted.

 No.289371

>>289364
I think it's made by a russian. Only russians would use something like "khokhol". Only them. They really think of Ukrainians as a lower class nationality so to speak. Which is funny to me, considering how many diferrent nationalities russia consists of (chechens, dagestans, buryats, etc)

Russians know full well what their country did and does and honestly they deserve every bit of hate towards them, but that's just my two cents. Hopefully Ukraine will abandom all the ties with russia, like baltic countries did with USSR at the time.

 No.289374

>>289355
I read your whole post and don't understand what masturbating to furry porn has to do with anything. Or now everyone has to be the same normalfag who either has sex or masturbates to vanilla hetero sex which features white, skinny people? I don't think wizchan is the place where you should complain about "degenaracy" in any form. What someone faps to and what he does otherwise in life has no relation to each other.

>Cool, but this has always been true.

Nowadays more so. Everyone likes to think our society became ultra-tolerant but actually it is the opposite, the moral oppression and peer pressure became unbearable these days when compared to earlier periods in history.

>hyper-competitive or hyper-inclusive

Not inclusive at all, if anything society became much more competitive. Thanks to social media we have now people who laugh at others for even behaving awkwardly and making memes about others deemed "weird" by the general population.

>>289356
>>289359
That is not my opinion, you idiot. I meant that nowadays it is the trend among normals to consider anyone a failure who didn't slay pussy by the age of 13.

 No.289392

>>289371
>They really think of Ukrainians as a lower class nationality so to speak.
It works both ways, ukrainian russophobia ranges from childishly contrarian patriotism to supremacist genocidal wet dream nazi LARP, the former fueling the latter as is often the case. I sincerely hope you're ukrainian and not a brainwashed westerner. At least rage justifes that textbook country name capitalization.

US wizards should drop this irrelevant theme and go back to discussing the problems of their affluent gun crime ridden paradise of a country. Im sorry about the whole gas price thing, i wouldn't want my prices to go up because some western African shithole i can't even pinpoint on the map correctly got into a war.

 No.289394

>>289374
>I read your whole post and don't understand what masturbating to furry porn has to do with anything.
You're a fucking moron who fucks dogs, the shooter had furry porn IN THE LIVESTREAMING OF HIS SHOOTING SPREE YOU NIGGER. That's what makes it strange you moron.

>Or now everyone has to be the same normalfag who either has sex or masturbates to vanilla hetero sex which features white, skinny people?

I realize that we're on a slippery slope to /d/-level porn in the mainstream but furry porn is/was degenerate porn.

> I don't think wizchan is the place where you should complain about "degeneracy" in any form.

We complain about degeneracy here.

>What someone faps to and what he does otherwise in life has no relation to each other.

Okay dog-fucker, wasn't the point I was making but you desperately want to defend masturbating to animal anatomy.

 No.289396

The Israeli army shot some Palestinian reporter and then at her funeral the pigs beat the funeral procession including the casket bearers. They said they were acting under orders and it was all approved. This is literally fucking disgusting. Israel has been creeping closer and closer to becoming Nazis my entire life. Watch the video of the pigs attacking the pallbearers and tell me your blood doesn't boil.

 No.289397


 No.289400

>>289396
You never knew they were the 'Nazis' all along? I guess now you know. When you control everything including morality you have immunity over any atrocities.

 No.289402

>>289371
>>289364
It was made by leftypol, the saddest thing is that even they produce much more OC than wizchan.

 No.289404

>>289402
That's because Wizchan is not here to churn shodder for you, nobody cares. A containment thread is the most you'll get for your pol related retardation.

 No.289406

>>289402
It's still around? The left really can't meme at all.

 No.289410

>>289406
leftypol is a myth. It never existed as an actual board, only a place for people to dump propaganda. They're going for horseshoe theory but the problem is people on the left aren't as dumb and crazy so it never really caught on.

 No.289411

>>289392
>russophobia

 No.289412

>>289410
Anything cool or funny or clever on the left is immediately co-opted by tranny libtards.

 No.289413

>>289410
The thing is that the explained 'joke' is the meme itself. I couldn't even bother to get to the punchline if there even was one.

 No.289415

>>289406
it was an 8chan board now it's a whole ib

 No.289417

>>289396
>jews are nazis
>but the arabs who defend themselves against nazis also become nazis because they hate jews

 No.289420

>>289394
I'm not into furry but I don't have a problem with those who are. I personally stopped using porn and masturbating but I don't look down on others just because of their sexual habits. Because I know society would see me as a weirdo too for living the celibate life.

>>289396
Nice, except you left out the part that those "peaceful" arabs of yours started throwing rocks at the police and attacked them.

I say nice, I take down my hat before Israel. They know how to deal with muslims and their retarded shit, they know these people only understand violence.

 No.289421

>>289406
>>289364
The image is mostly a joke about the Ukraine threads in leftypol, I can see at least 3 inside memes that only people who have been in those threads understand, it's meant to satirize the many kinds of people that post in that thread.

No wonder why you people don't get it, it's a local meme.

 No.289422

>>289410
>leftypol is a myth. It never existed as an actual board

Literally wrong,it's a site AND a board.
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/index.html

 No.289425

>>289421
>it's not shit meme, it's just local meme
ha

 No.289426

dirtbag left bros are unsufferable

 No.289427

>>289421
it is not a well-designed meme. i read through it and didnt laugh, so it demands more attention than it deserves. it is basically only made for the creator to huff xer own farts because 99.999% of imageboard redditors are not going to waste their time with it.

 No.289428

>>289426
Dirtbag right bros are equally insufferable.

 No.289429

>>289426
>>289428
Dirtbag centrist bros are the real insufferablefags.

 No.289431

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 No.289432

>>289431
It's embarrassing by proxy watching /pol/fags eat their own bait, fall for their own false flags.

 No.289433

I'd never put someone that can't conceptualize humor into a public position. Why? I don't know. They probably don't get anything about the human psyche they're supposed to be the leaders of.

 No.289434

>>289431
I can't tell if that's real.

 No.289451

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>>289431
we illuminati now

 No.289464

>>289432
They've been doing that for years. On 4chan there's always someone talking in the most stereotypical outdated mid 2010's "sjw" fashion, in a way only someone there would perceive it, and then getting responded by someone getting furious over it and taking it seriously.
It's like a dog chasing its own tail.
/pol/ also makes a lot of false flags which backfires on them, because the only people who end up using it are /pol/fags.

 No.289467

>>289464
i hope the irony isn't lost on you

 No.289468

>>289467
I hope your tongue is out of my anus

 No.289471

>>289432
Leftoid org taking the bait
>ItS ActUally pOl tAkInG thE bAiT
Does denying reality a prerequisite to being a leftoid?

 No.289499

>>289431
Wtf i love anime now.

 No.289500

>>289471
>I am not retarded it's just that you're being baited. You got baited
ok

 No.289503

>>289500
You realize pol is a bunch of retarded normalfag kids being edgy or at most only pretending, not actual big scary ebil white supremacist cells with automatic rifles and other contraband, right?

 No.289504

Can someone re upload the buffalo shooter livestream? In minecraft of course

 No.289507

>>289504
You will have more luck on a board with a dedicated pol. The moderation does not like gore being posted.

 No.289512

>>289503
This.

Mods people posting on /pol/ would have ended in a concentration camp in 1942, they just want to be edgy to rebel against the current neolib dystopia.

 No.289513


 No.289516

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Capitalism is p. cool.

 No.289517

>>289516
what's the top-left two dots? oil countries i guess?

 No.289523

>>289517
North Korea and Iran

 No.289524

>>289523
how the fuck are they so high on the human development index lol

 No.289526

>>289524
the develpment iundex graph is pulled straight out of his assole, 100% sccurate and reputable

 No.289528

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>>289516
>live to 120
>spend 25 years in education studying marketing
>leveraged currency has high purchasing power
who /maximally developed/ here?

 No.289529

>>289516
Iran, Cuba, or Venezuela probably.

 No.289533

>>289517
I believe in statistics they're known as "outliers" and are typically ignored.

 No.289570

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 No.289575

>>289570
Why exactly do you believe the holocaust happened?

 No.289589

>>289575
Why don't you?

 No.289590

>>289589
Pol posted lots of colorful pictures on the subject

 No.289591

>>289589
Logistically impossible.
No mass graves with 6 million+ corpses (12 million now according to some people)
Lots of ridiculous stories from "holocaust survivors" like masturbation machines which discredit the reliability of witness testimony for something like this.
Zero written record of this supposed genocide.
Confessions in The Nuremberg Trials were obtained through torture.
The method of execution of this genocide is just nonsensical and stupid. Why not just line up Jews and shoot them in the head instead of constructing elaborate gassing chambers?

 No.289593

>>289591
not the person you're replying to, I think the memorial reduced the deaths to 1 million but who is to say that number isn't wrong too.
the psychopath cartels don't just shoot their victims in the head either, poor bastards got dissolved in acid and there is no record on paper like you said but they did find human soup :/

snu snu machines
which troll came up with this crap?
you are aware that people think of the sickest shit to humiliate and torture others, like the pile of nude men in that iraq camp.
as for the trials I am not a historian or judge, court crabs are corrupted anyway. I get it though, you've watched the greatest story never told and saved the /pol/ posts.

 No.289597

>>289593
>snu snu machines
>which troll came up with this crap?
that claim was made by bernard holstein in his eyewitness book stolen soul, the other claims are evidence submitted during the nuremberg trials

electrified floors:
>I end my quotation here, and I call the attention of the Tribunal to Page 136 on the reverse side of the document book; this is from a report of the Polish Government, which shows that the Camp Sobibur was founded during the first and second liquidation of the Jewish ghetto. But the extermination on a large scale in this camp really started at the beginning of 1943. In this same report, in the last paragraph on Page 136 of the document book, we may read that Camp Belsen was founded in 1940; but it was in 1942 that the special electrical appliances were built in for mass extermination of people. Under the pretext that the people were being led to the bath-house, the doomed were undressed and then driven to the building where the floor was electrified in a special way; there they were killed.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/02-19-46.asp p576

slot sniper and pedal-operated ramrod:
>"One room was reserved for undressing and another for waiting; in one of them a radio played rather loudly. It was done purposely so that the prisoners could not guess that death awaited them. From the second room they went, one by one, through a passage into a small fenced-in room with an iron grid let into the floor. Under the grid was a drain. As soon as a prisoner of war was killed, the corpse was carried out by two German prisoners while the blood was washed off the grid.
>"In this small room there was a slot in the wall, approximately 50 centimeters in length. The prisoner of war stood with the back of his head against the slot and a sniper shot at him from behind the slot. In practice this arrangement did not prove satisfactory, since the sniper often missed the prisoner. After 8 days a new arrangement was made. The prisoner, as before, was placed against the wall; an iron plate was then slowly lowered onto his head. The prisoner was under the impression that he was being measured for height. The iron plate contained a ramrod which shot out suddenly and poleaxed the prisoner with a blow on the back of the head. He dropped dead. The iron plate was operated by a foot lever in a corner of the room. The personnel working in the room belonged to the above-mentioned Sonderkommando.
>"By request of the execution squad, I was also forced to work this apparatus. I shall refer to the subject later. The bodies of prisoners thus murdered were burned in four mobile crematories transported in trailers and attached to motor cars. I had to ride constantly from the inner camp to the execution yard. I had to make 10 trips a night with 10 minutes' interval between trips. It was during these intervals that I witnessed the executions…."
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/02-13-46.asp p376

nuclear death ray:
>MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Who was in charge of the experimentations with the gases?
>SPEER: As far as I know it was the research and development department of the OKH in the Army ordnance office. I cannot tell you for certain.
>MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: And certain experiments were also conducted and certain researches conducted in atomic energy, were they not?
>SPEER: We had not got as far as that, unfortunately, because the finest experts we had in atomic research had emigrated to America, and this had thrown us back a great deal in our research, so that we still needed another year or two in order to achieve any results in the splitting of the atom.
>MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: The policy of driving people out who didn't agree with Germany hadn't produced very good dividends, had it?
>SPEER: Especially in this sphere it was a great disadvantage to us.
>MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Now, I have certain information, which was placed in my hands, of an experiment which was carried out near Auschwitz and I would like to ask you if you heard about it or knew about it. The purpose of the experiment was to find a quick and complete way of destroying people without the delay and trouble of shooting and gassing and burning, as it had been carried out, and this is the experiment, as I am advised. A village, a small village was provisionally erected, with temporary structures, and in it approximately 20,000 Jews were put. By means of this newly invented weapon of destruction, these 20,000 people were eradicated almost instantaneously, and in such a way that there was no trace left of them; that it developed, the explosive developed, temperatures of from 400° to 500° centigrade and destroyed them without leaving any trace at all.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/06-21-46.asp p529

 No.289599

>>289593
There's a pretty huge difference between hiding 1 body and hiding 6 million bodies. You can't just dissolve 6 million people in acid. Mass graves this large would be very easy to find. Even cremation leaves skeletons, the and manpower it would take to pulverize every one of these skeletons to the point of being unrecognizable is huge.
>I think the memorial reduced the deaths to 1 million but who is to say that number isn't wrong too.
I hope you realize that merely by positing that the death toll was less than 6 million you yourself would be considered a "holocaust denier" by most mainstream sources.

 No.289605

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"colored" is badword again, "black" is back to acceptable

 No.289606

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just imagine the russian conscript who spent nearly a year of service at the bottom of a conscript brothel who's going to be put in charge of re-educating these ukrainian soldiers' thighs when they are captured as prisoners of war

 No.289614

>>289605
Y'know what they say
Nigger's the new black.

 No.289642

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how are these guys glowies exactly? They look really normal (and whats the story behind this pic)

 No.289645

>>289642
They all look the same


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