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 No.290222

Is the batchelors tax/tax breaks for married couples proof that being single and childless is actually a pretty good way of life? I mean if being single was really so bad why would you need to punish people for not getting married and basically bribe them with money incentives to tie the knot and reproduce?

 No.290223

Birth control exists, it would make more sense to tax childless people instead.

 No.290224

>>290222
>proof that being single and childless is actually a pretty good way of life
You're being too optimistic.
Life isn't GOOD and being childless makes it BETTER.
Life is TERRIBLE so you remain childless so it doesn't get WORSE.

 No.290226

male population outnumbers female population by millions upon millions in China
single adult males outnumber single adult females in every country everywhere below the age of 35
succubi are barely even marginally affected by a bachelor tax
. . .

 No.290227

Nobody punishes bachelors in order to produce husbands.
Governments, societies and individuals punish bachelors because they can.
Seizure of whatever wealth bachelors can scrape together is also generally easier than seizure of better-defended wealth from wealthier individuals.

 No.290228

One of the most important predictors of whether or not a man is going to get married is his income, with higher incomes being more likely to marry.
The proposed solution to singletons is to confiscate their income.
It's reasonable to speculate that nobody is actually being bribed to tie the knot. This is presumably expected to motivate those bachelors to kill themselves, thereby solving the bachelor problem. It might, possibly, motivate a few bachelorettes to marry. Maybe. But that seems sufficiently unstudied, untested and unknowable that it defies reason to have that as an expectation.

 No.290234

>>290222
A bachelor's tax will just create a market where people pay to marry someone real quick and then divorce immediately after taxes are filed.

But hey, if any country can pull it off a bachelor's tax it would be an authoritarian one like China.

 No.290238

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It is just another sour grapes move from Normal Society. It's like taxing NEETs in Belarus.
"We suffer so you should too!" reasons Normal Society. It's not about making more children because it is China we are talking about, they have/had (not sure) the whole one child per family thing going exactly because there were so many of them. It is about making life difficult for those who enjoy it outside the norms and expectations of Society.

This is more about ideology than just collecting taxes. "Everyone should be the same and should do the same things" - that are encouraged by the Communist Church er I mean Party. This is why Russia, Belarus, Turkey, India, China and other hellholes should be just bombed to ruins. These are the most anti-wizardly societies on Earth probably.

 No.290239

>>290234
That didn't happen when Mussolini passed his Bachelor Tax.

 No.290246

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>>290238
It makes sense too, because not getting married or having kids is almost the same as not getting a job, except there is no consequence unless it effects you emotionally. This is no sour grapes, I'm sure marriage and all that comes with it can work and make for a great life, but at the same time for many people its a huge burden that requires them to slave even harder in the rat race. Just imagine your average peasant toiling away in the field or some factory raising 3-5 kids and dealing with an aging demanding wife, life is undeniably easier without those things.

 No.290282

>>290228
>It's reasonable to speculate that nobody is actually being bribed to tie the knot. This is presumably expected to motivate those bachelors to kill themselves, thereby solving the bachelor problem.
The thought has crossed my mind. A large group of single men with no prospects of better pay and no marriage? Doesn't bode well for the powers that be.


>>290238
>It's not about making more children because it is China we are talking about
You are very retarded, the machine always requires more bodies to keep it running, China is experiencing a birth decline.

 No.290283

Every country with tax breaks for married couples and/or families with children already has an effective bachelors tax.

 No.290284

>>290246
How is it not Sour Grapes? It is a classic example, normals want to get revenge on those who enjoy life more than them. They envy us because we are free to do what we want, we don't have to work and don't have to deal with having a family. Of course they envy and hate us. Because we symbolize everything that they want and desire but are too afraid to get: freedom and ownership of self.

>>290282
Like I said, it is China we are talking about. They aren't running out of people any time soon. They have the first or second highest population on the planet (Idk whether India is the first now, too lazy to look it up). Birth control was a problem in China for a long time. This issue is about another things entirely. It is about making life harder for anyone who is strange or an outsider. They don't want any genuine individuals to exist in their collectivist hellhole.

 No.290288

I think this is fake news, that folks are ready to believe anything about China.

I googled "single person's Tax china guardian

searched "single's person tax" on Twitter

Found 0

 No.290295

>>290288
same. spent a few minutes searching, including on twitter, but found nothing. Guardian has a huge amount of posts there though

 No.290298

>>290284
You do realize that a decline in birth rates means that the population of China will decrease in their population, right? They have well over a billion people there now, but it'll decline when people die

 No.290309

>>290298
And I'm saying that was exactly their intention when they introduced the whole one child per family policy, to reduce population number.

My point is that worrying about birthrates is something the Western World should care about, not China of all the countries. It isn't a problem in China, it is a problem here on our part of the world.

 No.290312

>>290309
Not the person you replied to but you seem to fail to understand there's a fundamental problem to have too many people at retirement age compared to people at working age. It's not about absolute numbers. It's a budget issue and a very obvious one with far reaching consequences. Looking how this conversation went I won't bother explaining to you but you can look it the impact of an inverted pyramid can have on a nation's budget and how it affects the economy overall.

>And I'm saying that was exactly their intention when they introduced the whole one child per family policy, to reduce population number.

They had a problem with family planning in the past but now they have the same problem as any other industrialized nation where the number of people retiring is growing compared to the number of people entering the workforce. They don't want to import people from shitholes like the West does to balance the issue, probably because they're not stupid and can see it creates more problems than it solves.

 No.290316

>>290312
But there is a reason surely that they had the whole one child per family thing to begin with. More people isn't always a good thing, there is a certain limit to how many people can live across a country.

And how is the bachelor tax related to people entering the workforce??? It isn't about NEETs, it is simply about punishing everyone who is different from the norm. And it isn't even a move to grab cash, the money they would make this way wouldn't be significant because the majority always marries in every kind of society.

You can't justify horrible laws like this with economics or caring about the birthrates. They have this because they can do it. Same as in the case of taxing NEETs in Belarus.

 No.290317

>>290316
>And how is the bachelor tax related to people entering the workforce?

I told you I won't bother explaining it to you, you'll have to figure it out for yourself. Good luck.

 No.290318

>>290317
Playing the condescending faggot doesn't mean you are right, you know.

The bachelor tax is for people who already work or have incomes to begin with. So no, it's not about making a wizard marry some succ and then making him enter the workforce because he needs to support his family. It is about punishing single or unmarried people who already work or have some kind of income. So good luck to you, first make sure you understand what the discussion is about before you go play the smug guy.

 No.290374

>>290222
the government hates single men because they dont produce more slaves to uphold the system. bachelors taxes go way back thousands of years and are a sign of a failing society contrary to what tradcucks would like to say

 No.290385

>>290374
You literally work hard and invest thousands of dollars into raising another slave for the system, no way you won't get punished for sidestepping it. Child raising is like the biggest hidden tax.

 No.290426

>>290385
oh of course. not to mention that the government can outright take your children from you and force them into education camps specifically to turn them against you and serve the machine

 No.290432

your children
wizchan 2022

 No.290433

>>290374
Single men are also more likely to rebel or work against/outside the system. It's like being a normal who chases succubi all the time or has a family are requirements for being a good slave.

 No.290444

Ugly people tax

 No.290487

>>290433
Like when they were trying to take jobs from people refusing to take the vaccine. A lot of men who didn't want to take it had no choice because of needing to take care of their family. And married men are more likely to be promoted because of their dependency on the position and the money that comes with it.

 No.292312

Imagine having a job in 2022

 No.292484

>>290284
Normies quite frankly don't even think about you. You have a huge victim complex.

 No.292523

>>292484
Despite "not even thinking" about us they sure as hell do everything they can to make life more miserable for us. And they actively go out of their way to mock, bully and torment people like us.

You are deluded if you think normals don't care about us. They care and they look down us and hate us.



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