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>be born in the year 1996
> in between phase between skinny TVs and fat CRT computers used windows XP in school
> was in kindergarten during 9/11 remember all the adults crying while walking me home from school
I've been digging around the internet archives and looking at TV and ads in the VHS collection going all the way back to the 80s. Things seemed so good then…. can anyone older explain to me in detail what those times between the 90s and early 2000s where like ? the 85-99 period seemed really peaceful considering the type of TV that was on…what happened ?

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If you were a terminally online computer nerd back then those things were just part of life and would seem effortless to you.

Patches weren't also that big of a deal back then because devs didn't release unfinished games. Also, not all servers updated at the same time so if you didn't have time to download the new patch, you would just play on a server that is running the same version as you.


nah I lived through the 90s, and looking backward definitely seems like more happened than looking forward.

like compare rebooting a 1990 show in 2005. to rebooting a 2008 show in 2023. 2008 feels a lot closer.


nostalgia works on a 20 year cycle, its why you see in fashion and zoomers being obsessed with whats called the y2k aesthetic based off fashion from the late 90s and early 2000s.

2010s nostalgia wont fully bloom until the 2030s


>It's no less fake now than it was then. It's more profitable now but no less fake.

It is 100% more fake now. Things which used to be done for pure enjoyment or for the love of the game are now done for profit incentive.

2010s nostalgia won't emerge, or emerge as anything distinct because a lot of it is nostalgia (of nostalgia) for past decades.


I have to agree with >>302021 as decade culture drastically died with rise of social media and everyone starting to use the internet along with smartphones. Digitizing our lives to relive whatever we want when we want at a massive scale. If you ask me on a personal basis I'd say that the whole "decade culture" died in the mid 2000s. Maybe 2005 give or take to be almost exact.


>It is 100% more fake now. Things which used to be done for pure enjoyment or for the love of the game are now done for profit incentive.
It is almost the definition of fake really, things used to be done organically and now it's all done with machine like calculation to get as much traffic as possible and creators just produce content according to algorithms. Some creators don't even care about the shit they do and they just produce what's popular like it's a script they have to go through. I also wonder how many twitch streamers actually enjoy gaming and how many of them just used the convenience of webcam streaming to put on an act.


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If they make a reboot in the future where he goes back to today's time his mother would be a huge when shes younger and he'd end up fucking her or some shit like that.


A huge slut is what I tried to type like a retard


The key question is if he could stop the parkinsons.




They really couldn't do a reboot because there isn't anything analogous to skateboarding or rock and roll that they could use to make him look cool because of being from the future. Everything cool about today's future relies on computers and technology which would make it infinitely lamer if they try to insert him taking back an iphone or something as a plot line.


i just watched back to the future today for the first time, and his mother was already basically a horny slut goblin when she was younger. if he didn't know she was his mother, say she had a different name or something, he no doubt would have been in trouble


I wonder what would they stop at when rebooting classics that do not need remakes.


also, i just realized after watching that movie… this is the basic idea behind rick and morty. doc and marty, rick and morty. old scientist guy, crazy adventures. rick and morty is obviously just more fantastical since it is a cartoon


Modern American media gets a lot easier to ignore when you learn that it's all just referencing 1980s pop culture.
>crazy adventures
Smoking pot and vomiting isn't an adventure


>omg rick and morty is back to the future
Wow, zoomers really are fucking retarded aren't they? It was literally a Back to the Future parody in the beginning like 15+ years ago before it got changed to Rick and Morty. You niggers somehow shortened collective memory.


I was born in 86. Am I the oldest person on wizchan if I don't count the guy who keeps saying he's 70? Seems like I never see anyone beyond early 30s.


It's real strange that the internet seems to be devoid of anyone over 30. Like what happened to all the older users that used to populate forums back in the 00s?


It's no secret where they are. I have two siblings around my age. They use instant messaging apps to stay in touch with friends and colleagues and don't use any form of anonymous interacting online, except maybe reporting a bug every blue moon in a game's page on steam. Virtually all their friends have Instagram for example, you can find them there, though often the accounts are set on private.

I should've made myself clearer, when I said I never see anyone beyond early 30s I meant on imageboards.


That's normalniggers, what happened to the oddballs that populated forums back in the days? I distinctly remember there being many 30+ users online back when forums were still populated.


I'm one year younger than you.

They are playing MMOs.


Be sure to let us know why you leave, if you do, elder wiz


I'm one year younger than you

80s gang represent



we re out here, we usually hide or just dont mention our age cause dont want to hear, Wow you re Old

and these places get old , conversations repetitive, and most of us just move on, i only glance at tis site now


I think people are so nostalgic for this time because it was the last time society actually felt normal.


I mean actually living in it, after enjoying the tech of the 20s would suck. Like I like looking at Archive.org and usenet and seeing the 90s internet, and going wow it was surprisingly developed. Or even having some nostalgia about reading the 90s web in the 00s. It wasn't so far away back then. But yeah if that was my only internet I'd go insane from boredom.

also with my cheapass family, i was on dial up until 2007


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The world ended in 2012


>But yeah if that was my only internet I'd go insane from boredom.

it was so fuckin borin. you couldnt live online even if you wanted. if you were one of us you d be out just out of boredom.

now people like us we just hide on line. best example to me of one of us meltin down back in 1990s. was te Bjork stalker dude, i seriously believe dude was just super bored


i mean it was more text-based. but you could have had a community like wizchan in the 90s. i dont think the images and vids are what defines it. some people already lived their whole life in forums by then.


that's just the Millenials finishing their College "education" the eugenics program for BBC started almost as soon as 2001


Curious how identity politics ramps up after the 2008 crash and the occupy movement got dismantled.

I did not have a clue that geekdom would be irreparably damaged in the process.


All I know is that every anime in that time period was this in a nutshell.


One common denominator for those two things is the rise of chicago-style Saul Alinksy communist street agitation (aka "community organization) under the Obama regime and the rest of the Chicago crowd that swept in with him. To be fair, something similar would have likely happened under Hillary "Little Red" Clinton, also of Chicago ilk (and jewish-italian mafia heritage), so I'm not saying it's all the fault of one magic negro.

In the case of occupy, you saw the use of the RAND Corporation's Delphi Method with the call and response thing to stymie any kind of conversation while installing foreign ideas into groups to make said groups think that they had originated the ideas. Remember all these old hippie era communists from academia were out in force repeating this, as that's what they were taught at the time, and is how e.g. the UN systematically took over local school board. Obama famously also used it early on to try to get various congressional leaders to focus group their way into the policies his team wanted them to promote.

As for identity politics, this again is classically Alinskyite. If you havne't read his short and easy book, "Rules for Radicals" then you should. You might think like
>duh but this is so obvious
and that's the point: it has to be easy enough for the useful idiots to carry out so that marxist revolution seems to "just happen" on its own as if everybody has always been on the same page about the need for change and what pre-existing structures must be deposed in order to secure power for the new regime.


just every shonen… and it is not like today's shonen is different


Please don't post again.


Too late. btw, if you'd like to learn more about the Delphi Method and how the UN used it to take over local school boards, check out, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by Charlotte Iserbyt.

Julian Huxley (of transhumanism fame, and brother of aldous) setting up UNESCO just wasn't enough to control the children in order to re-engineer the future.


>You sound like a succubus.
This is the 3rd or 4th time I've been accused of being a succubus in the last year, yet I'm one of the few legitimate old ass wizard users of the site. Your succ detectors have broken, it didn't happen for years before this.
I clearly said
>I would say old internet was hostile to succubi, but it was more dismissive.
Which is exactly in line what you've asserted.


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They were shamed off the public internet.


yeah i figured it wasn't as great as nostalgiafags made it out to be. i'd be fine in the 90s and would haved liked to see the early internet. if i could live perpetually in an era on loop it would be 1995-2013. just before things got too corporate. hell i'd even extend it to 2016 to watch indie games become a little more popular. I don't necessarily hate the physical era i'm in but i utterly despise the internet era we are in.

I never thought the 80s were cool either. 90s are fine because i kind of see it as still 'modern' in a way. like setting up for the 2000s. So for a wizard i think my loop era (mid to late 90s to early 2010s) are the most comfy era to live in.


Man, this just made me think of how fucked the modern world is.

Like humans evolved without mirrors. No one gave a fuck about what they looked like, they just existed. Imagine how different your life would be if you never looked in a mirror or had a single photo taken of you. You would be completely grounded in reality.

Now someone that you will never interact with in your life can influence your opinion of yourself. Complete fabrications sway people's emotions and behaviors. None of this shit matters. So wild.


That reminds me of the anthropologists who took pictures of some tribe people who didn’t even know about cameras and then showed them to them. They were deeply disturbed at seeing themselves and wished they had never done so.


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>Like humans evolved without mirrors. No one gave a fuck about what they looked like, they just existed. Imagine how different your life would be if you never looked in a mirror or had a single photo taken of you. You would be completely grounded in reality.
Finds like the Egtved succubus or Otzi suggest otherwise, not to mention nomadic or tribal dress. The later religious strictures on clothing also make more sense if the surrounding populations had flamboyant drip



it always existed obviously, but was never as bad as it is right now.


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>Now someone that you will never interact with in your life can influence your opinion of yourself. Complete fabrications sway people's emotions and behaviors. None of this shit matters. So wild.

I still see all this moaning about how young succubi are affected by "unrealistic body image issues" but nobody ever seems to bring up that males a just as plagued by this shit now. I saw someone pointing out in that streamer 'Dream's face reveal that he kept noticeably angling his head to show off his jaw line. Pretty hilarious. I don't remember even the biggest normie males being this obsessed with their looks when i was at school. The modern internet has turned an entire generation into neurotic messes.


Another proof that modernity is a burden, life must have been simpler and more pleasant when you could barely see your reflection in the lake you would wash yourself in. Every new thing just adds unecessarry complexity and problems.

This, all I keep seeing is norwood reaper, small dick energy, jawline stuff and I've seen many zoomer guys bully each other for looks like gossipy succubi. This whole shallow snapchat tinder era is complete cancer and switched the male dynamic up completely. You can't watch anything without a guy getting bullied for his looks, you could literally just make a cooking video and people will end up messing with you because of your looks and it's also so many guys doing it too, it's completely gay.

It's also mainstream as well and men have to suck it up but somehow we all have to endure some lesbian cunts wrath because she's not a pretty succubus. These fucked up dykes even make ugly female characters in video games now just because they are butthurt while they are the same cunts that bully guys online for having perfectly normal penis sizes, their sexual experiences and looks etc.

All this superficial shallow bullshit pisses me off because these cunts present so many double standards when it comes to men. Men just have to swallow the blackpill and live with it but the mainstream tries to make us feel oh so sorry for succubi all the time and as soon as someone points out that a old succubus looks less appealing than a young one they make a whole global affair out of it.


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Kill yourself zoomer.

The archetypal nerd erased from existence. It must be schizophrenic to be an outcast as a zoomer when even being a virgin is a label used by normalfags who need to be more unique.


People can see their reflection in water.


Understand the difference between barely and none please. Looking at yourself in a lake is different from looking into a clear mirror, the lights and focus etc. It must have been quite different when these natural reflections were the only thing that would show what you look like.


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