im old, i was an adult in 1990s. you would of hated it. there was no: i will just hide on line, back then. No instant community of people to talk to who are just like you.
tv was like 30 channels, no internet to really speak of, want weird videos/comics , be ready to drive far to some weird store.
Were people friendlier, yes cause most interaction was in person, and people realized if you started trouble you d likely be beat up.
People were also a lot more moral and religious, albeit in a Fakey Way. so your way to tune out would brand you _______ and stigma would follow you around, dont care? you would if all your interaction is in person.
wasnt fun. i dont miss it.
You thought this decade was peak moralfaggotry? Try the 90s, when everything had to be censored because "think of the children!" DnD and video games were gateways to Satan, etc etc.
Obviously nerds were beaten up and ostracized rather than provisionally accepted or seen as a trend to use as a way to stand out back then. What community there was was much smaller and more localized, and made much more limited if you didn't have 56k. A protowiz would just read a lot of books.
Albeit it is a bit derailing, but still relevant.
I'm so baffled by the moronic retardation of the americans, of their delusion as if they are the center of the world. Somehow they view the "9/11" as an age defining event, when it was not that much important or tragic. These brainrot monkeys were oblivious of struggles of the rest of the world, until it came flying down on their "shopping center". Truly ironic. And even then these retards sperged out like little kids and started the invasion into iraq and aghanistan, which was an utter failure in pacifyin the region.
Indeed, burgerpeople are a special kind of retards.
I was a kid in the 90s and all of my love for the 90s comes from the love of being a child, not because of the time period. I don't think many nostalgiafags understand this. Hell, it took me a while to understand it too.
Thinking back, there doesn't seem to be anything about that decade that made the world even remotely friendly to the wizardly type.
it sucked i had barely any games to play and i didn't have internet for any of the 90s. you had to physically go to a store and look at a selection of boxed games. consoles and games were expensive too. tv was dogshit i basically watched discovery channel and cartoon network, that's it. most of the air time was advertisements and everyone hated it. want to watch a movie? you had to get ready and again physically go somewhere. or buy a physical copy, but then you needed a dvd player for good quality.. something break? had to look through phonebook and call random services asking if they could fix it. need to know something? have to go visit the library. everything needed batteries or gasoline to function. tons of people smoked in public still. cash money, checks, checkbooks. everything was super inconvenient compared to now
>>293126> need to know something? have to go visit the library.
i forget about this one sometimes. yea, dont know somethin, there was no, just type in in search and find it in 2 seconds. you could spend YEARS tryin to solve some question, or track some weird shit down. or you just never solved it.
i do kinda miss infomercials tho
I'm with these guys, imagine trying to set up a basic team fortress quake game compared to the newest version. bet it sucked from a technical neet perspective.
let me enter the full ATA string into the modem so I can play age of emp- 10mb patch required
forgot to clean the trackball
no external usb 3 drives
extra processor for backwards compability
insufficient base memory
faulty copper cables means no freebies from andrew on wow
now a retard like me can just snap in the ram, gpu, 3-4 mouse clicks and I'm playing diablo 3 and the best part? no need to interact with crabs
I was born in 1996, holy fuck im 26 y/o already…
Anyway, to answer the question, the internet was mostly for middle class nerds so things were quirky and fun, think 4chan in 2005 or so.
Programming and IT shit was the same, you had to be a hardcore nerd to get in, same with a lot of hobbies, normals were repulsed by programming, the internet, manga and anime and you were immediately labeled as a weirdo if you liked anything else than partying and getting drunk every day or participate in retarded politics.
The videogames industry wasn't pozzed, yes even in those years it was full of normalfags, but they didn't really influenced the games with retarded ideologies (except very special cases like 9/1).
I think the end was when the smartphone entered the picture with the first IPhone, every normalfag suddenly realized that technology could be fun and everyone having massive access to the internet with a device designed for literally retarded people that required no technical knowledge to use flooded the internet with equally retarded people, and then normies realized that they could get popular either doing stupid for attention (males) or whoring themselves on the internet (females) and they decided to fill the internet with that crap.
That retarded shit only happened on the worst country on earth (The US) anywhere else the 90's were actually fun and probably the best decade of the last 40 years.
things are just getting more convenient/easier, but at the same time more retarded
people back in the day had more passion when makeing something, now people just poop out something. Back in that day, people had high IQ, and doing anything took time. Now, low IQ and fast doing anything.
"IDIOCRACY Opening Scene (2006) Mike Judge"https://youtu.be/sP2tUW0HDHA
>>293136>Rwandan genocide>Sanctions in Iraq>Gang warfare in Latin America
You only think the 90's were good because you were just a dumb child back then. There was never a nice time to be alive, each era is just as bad as the other for most of the world
and the balkans, and russia…
Do you remember Eurodance?
nananananana nana na nana…
You're correct but you think that's a bad thing. Many of those things would have prevented our society becoming so sick. How many people here would have healthier lives if they didn't have the internet to fall back on constantly? How much better would mental health be if people were forced to interact with others not text on a screen? It might not suit you but it's healthier than what kids have today.>>293120
Most of that was marketing by the companies themselves. Getting on main stream media brings you a lot of eyes. Companies like Rockstar hired marketers to rabble rouse and get people to buy their game through controversy. It wasn't a big deal at all in reality.>>293124
I never watched horror movies as a child. I watch a lot of 90's horror movies now. 90's is the end of the practical era and the start of the digital era. People pine for something more real in a world of fakery. 90's has it's issues and fuck adults wearing Ghostbusters t shirts but it's not just nostalgia for being a child.>>293131
Setting up old computers did suck, but your world didn't revolve around them back then. A few hours of quake a week was a treat. It felt special to play unlike now with 10,000 steam games you don't care about.>>293135
AOL is the start of cheap internet and it begins in the early 90s. Budget PCs became a thing then.
Weebs are dumb. Anime was mainstream in the 80s. Transformers was the biggest toy of the year. Before that Battle of the planets was huge. DBZ, Sailor moon, Pokemon and the list never ends. Manga wasn't as common but it wasn't rare in comic book circles. You were born 40 years too late to say normalfags didn't like anime back then.
The video game industry was pozzed. You can go back and see feminist rants in 90's video game magazines on archive.org if you don't believe me.
iphone is post Eternal Summer and AOL. Do you even remember AOL keywords?
I don't care if Rwanda kills themselves. Don't live in Latin America and Iraq isn't my problem. A good time to be alive is relative and now the problems you mention are knowing on our doors due to mass immigration. We didn't risk latin gang violence when there wasn't any latin gangs living among us.>>293142>Bush stole the election
2 more weeks!>>293143
Techno music from gay bars got branded EuroX.
Normalfags did not like anime until the mid to late 2000s tops. Transformers is not Gundam. I'll concede that Pokemon was the closest thing to a mainstream anime in the 90s, but much like with a Saturday morning cartoon you were expected to grow out of watching it after age 10 or so. In fact, adults being interested in cartoons past a certain age was considered abhorrent and weird until the mid to late 2000s, unless they had some excuse like being part of the industry.
Also why would a wiz born in 96 remember AOL keywords? AOL became irrelevant in the early 2000s.
>>293154>If I ignore all the things that prove me wrong I'm right!
Shall we include Speed racer, Astroboy and Robotech or do you want to ignore those too?
Anime WAS mainstream in the exact same time slots. Transformers did extremely well.
Adult animation existed before family guy. Simpsons started in the 80s and was a world wide mega star. So you're wrong again. Animation was not strictly for kids both on TV and going to the cinema to see a Disney movie. Adult animations were being made all the time like Wizards or Fits the cat.
AOL key words were the normalfag way of using the internet through the 90s. It disproves the "only smart nerds had the internet" when everyone got AOL Discs through the door.
I lived through the 90s and remember them clearly. The revisionist we waz nerds shit is just a cope. Instead of accepting you joined the internet after normalfags you need to make excuses for why YOUR early experiences are part of the good era while everyone else's isn't.
>>293155>Adult animation existed before family guy. Simpsons started in the 80
Remember that Bugs Bunny/Merry Melodies and Tom & Jerry were adult animation. They had, for the time, mostly adult humor and were overly violent. They were shown before adult-themed films in theatres. When broadcast on television they were often chopped up for a more general audience. The adult themes are even carried over to modern iterations.
Yeah kids liked them, but the target demographic was adults.
Defining your generation by the musicians and celebrities who were popular at the time has got to be one of the top 400 most normalfag things I've seen on my web browser.
Think of what was invented in your time, what laws changed, who was at war, which discoveries and technologies came about. Going "uuuh the 90s were when David Bowie had a crazy haircut" is both stupid and dumb, and a little bit Reddit. Of all things to talk and feel about, not only is it a person, but someone who was force fed onto you by corporate media oligarchs.
None of those things are relevant to most people's lives. We've spent the last 20 years at war with sand niggers and it means nothing to any one in the civilized world. It's an abstract concept most are never going to interact with. While David Bowie songs on the radio are something most people will have experiences with.
Everything you mention is autistic to the degree of non-functionality. It doesn't matter how laws change or what was invested unless it effected you directly. Which almost none of what you listed did.
I'm all for weening people away from media and getting them in the real world but the real world IS music you hear playing around you much more than it is some nigger inventing peanut butter powered helicopters you're never going to sit in.
Anime wasn't really mainstream before 2002 or so, yeah it was available and known, but it was also true that for the vast majority of people you were a fucking freak if you watched anime (except turbo normie shit like Pokemon, Sailor Moon or Captain Tsubasa that aired on normal TV)
If you watched more anime than that you were indeed an outcast, if you also read manga or managed to get into the very few translated VN's at the time you HAD to be a wizard.
Now all that shit is extremely mainstream, literally everyone watches anime and reads manga and you can find eroge on steam, normalfags completely conquered the entire hobby extremely fast, and being honest the industry (both japanese and western) helped with that because they love money of course.
>>293147>I don't care if Rwanda kills themselves. Don't live in Latin America and Iraq isn't my problem
lol. typical american
when did you get on the internet? because if you weren't there during the 80s hacker researcher vs drm wars then you too joined with the rest of the normalfags, they invented the demo. wtf is this trial internet? (I know what those are) crabol merely copied the 80s when they would drive around in vans dropping off software discs at random locations.
80s made their own isp and now a decade later normaol comes along trying to capitalize on it, no respect for those 80s guys.
90s gen are a bunch of computers users, they're not computer hobbyists
>>293161>If I continue to ignore all the popular animes children watched in the last century than I can make my argument>Pokemon came out in 1996 but being the biggest craze of the century which sold more games in the first 2 years than any other general doesn't count. Pokemon's peak popularity isn't popular enough to count as anime being main stream>>293162
Not America you little brown faggot. No one cares about sub humans killing each other. Not even other sub humans.
>>293164>Not America you little brown faggot. No one cares about sub humans killing each other. Not even other sub humans.
lol. Americans sure are retarded enough to think that there are them and the whole other word as separate entities. Your faggotry led to the "9/11", led to the current crysis.
You are so pathetic that you don't even have a proper nation, instead of that you have a cocktail of shit and piss or "white" and "brown" as you cocksuckers name it. lol
>I'm not american
This poster is an AI.
nice tourist arrows
Born in early 90s, got my fair share of suffering, then it was 2010, got fast internet - discovered all the media of 80s, 90s, 00s - consumed it - now suffering again. I'm a low functioning retard, maybe I would have suffered in all eras without something to consume to forget.
That's it, even if all people of the world wanted it, they couldn't reproduce the Zeitgeist, because it's Zeitgeist stuff. Gone, forever. I see people enjoy new stuff, being hyped about new stuff. So I can't really tell if "my" stuff was better than theirs. Of course, there are objective criteria, but it's hard to compare if you had a stash of quality stuff, from the pioneer era of media. Now it's just hard to find something new - maybe there isn't for me, but that's my problem. Simple as. But I discovered drinking.
As a technology matures it becomes less interesting. People know what works and gets the most success so they naturally align with it. The access to CGI and "We just need 10 episodes for netflix not a movie script" has destroyed so much creativity. Video games have become so large no one can influence anything for the better once the game production is in motion. And if even 1 small thing fails it snowballs into development hell.
And lets not forget how fast stuff moves now. Hype never stops. Biggest game of the year is forgotten in a month and hype for the next game starts immediately. There's no time for something to brew and mature, it has to be broken and speedrun DAY ONE and everything put on the wiki. Everything is now a slaughter house to be cut up for hype cutlets and that's it.>>293169
He can't explain why you should care about people you don't know exist. Which you shouldn't. Your local community matters, getting your car repaired matters, your pets matter. Some fatherless bastard starving in a country no one's heard of and even his parents didn't bother to name is no concern of any one but the vultures.
You see, the thing is that the world you and i live in is not a mish-mash of independent states and communities. On the contrary every thing is veru much intertwined with one another so the constant war in the middle east, as an example i have provided, led both to the cheap oil prices at that time and "anti-terrorism war" with its rampant intrusion into your private life. Of course i wasn't trying to make one view this problem solely from "moralistic" point of you. Come on, i don't think you are that retarded to be swayed by such a pseudo-argument.
>>293218>Come on, i don't think you are that retarded to be swayed by such a pseudo-argument.
Moralistic thinking is not only how most people think but on this very website there are constant appeals to morality like the vegan or the antinatalists talking about reducing suffering etc. I'm not validating moral thinking, but you gave too big a benefit of the doubt.
how is interacting with "crabs" bad in nerd spaces like games or tech? strange sentence
there's a lot of underage tourists here who try to fit in by calling everything crab, you'll have to excuse them as they are looking for their next "schizocore" lolcow
I was born at the end of the 80s and the 90s were the only time in my life were the world seemed to be somewhat normal and I felt optimistic about the future.
The Cold War had just ended. There were no terror attacks. No obsession with surveillance and control. No feminism. None of all the gender stuff.>>293111 >>293116
In my country it was the least moralistic decade. There was heavy censorship, but games and movies could be easily imported from other countries.
I didn't have internet or video games, but books and movies felt more enjoyable at that time. Buying things in stores or from mail catalogues wasn't that much of a hassle and made everything feel more special.
In the 2000s politicians started being obsessed with Islamic terror and school shootings and started turning this country into a police state. Steam made it harder to get uncensored games because now they could patch them into censored versions through the internet. At some point some politicians wanted to make the possession of violent games a criminal offense (though they didn't get it through). I got into problems with my school and the police because being a loser was seem as being a terror threat.
In the 2010s we had the refugee crisis and feminism becoming increasingly more dominant. More laws to limit free speech and control the internet.
In the last years everything started falling apart completely. The media have become completely unhinged. Our language is getting changed drastically to make it less offensive to feminists. People get raided regularly for offending politicians.
There are constant demonstrations all the time. The economy is crashing.
The 90s were a paradise compared to now.
I was born in 1989. The 90s were unironically one of the best decades ever, not only for me, but most people will tell you how the 80s and 90s were the best decades. The 90s had everything, great music, great tv shows, gaming had soul, there was a nice balance between technology use and human interaction, great race relations, some of the best movies came out in the 90s. Things started going downhill in the early 00s.
It wasn't so much that normies hated anime back then, it was just that you -literally- couldn't access it unless you were an adult with know how and resources. You didn't get teenage shonen, there was nothing edgy like deathnote or attack on titan on VCR or on TV, or things like Stein's Gate aimed at an older audience. You got literal kids shows like Pokemon and Sailor Moon playing on public TV. It was in the early 00s that people started realizing more adult anime existed, and kids all at once wanted to get their hands on it because it was grimdark and edgy.
Anime was traded through taped copies through anime clubs in big cities, or in the late 90s they networked online. In big centers like New York this was easy, but if you lived in bumfuck nowhere it was impossible. How are you going to watch anime if you live in rural Minnesota and don't have internet at your house yet?
Computers weren't cheap like they are now, what you spend on a top of the line gaming PC now is what you spent on getting something just capable of doing the internet back then. It was only 98/99 where normies started getting online, and even then they were dabbling their feet. Every second household in the 90s that had a computer was still using something like a Commodore 64, and got frustrated doing even basic things with the thing.
I do think that the 90s and early 00s were the apotheosis of civilization though. Unironically people were starting to drag themselves out of the social problems that the boomers had fallen into like high divorce rates, and then '07 came along with the Iphone and social media and we all became addicted to the internet.
hmmm, im not gonna try to based kek epicly reddit dilate debunk everything you say, but some
nerdy groups did
spring up. there is
a big spectrum/timeline in the years that you listed for commercial tech development. obviously, more fags online, ie annoying dipshits ie the human race.
…you could buy anime from video stores in the 80s. Manga entertainment, which became Crunchy roll founded in London in the late 80s. They would dub and sell anime VHS, which means it was already beyond tape trading at that point. Do people forget the VHS boom of the 80's had multiple super popular Japanese media? Kung fu movies were a primary reason to buy a VCR at the time and the UK started to censor Japanese weaponry to try to limit them. TMNT was renamed Hero turtles and they had to make episodes where Mikey didn't use his weapons on screen or could edit it out easily for the UK market. It's why the second live action movie mostly avoids weapons being used.
The 90's wasn't a time of "getting out from the boomers". Millenials were latch key kids because Gen X and late boomers barely raised their kids for the most part. America had race riots fucking up cities and divorce rates were lower because there was less marriage in general.
Commodore as a company barely existed in the US let alone every second computer owner being a commodore. There's a great documentary about Commodore's history and why it failed after dominating Europe for so long. They hired a scalped a bunch of IBM employees thinking it would help them expand into the US which IBM and Apple controlled. But the guy's they got were vultures and brought in all their friends to fuck around and even hold back projects. The guy in charge of manufacturing decided to build a factory where his mistress lived so he could fuck her despite there being no reason for Commodore to need one there and no domestic market in the location.
The 90's has some great perks to it but it's pure bullshit to ignore everything we face today comes from the 80-90s. Faggotry became main stream acceptable in the 90s after all the pity party over aids in the 80s.
Have you tried not being a nigger? These aren't normal wizard experiences. They're nigger experiences.
>>294118>Manga entertainment, which became Crunchy roll founded in London in the late 80s. They would dub and sell anime VHS, which means it was already beyond tape trading at that point.
That wasn't available everywhere, I had to go outside my part of London to even find them. Most of the time I got them from my cousin.
Is your part of london all niggers and pakis and you couldn't find it there?
Akira was in the cinema in 1990. There were commercial anime magazines in the early 80s and dubbed series airing on TV long before that.
The idiots saying anime only became popular in the 00s have on rose tinted glasses to feel SUPER SPECIAL WEEABOO. Rather than a guy watching cartoons from another country. It was cheaper to dub anime than it was to create entire new series, so anime like power rangers was every where.
Technology in the 90s and 2000s was really fucking shit tbh. I.e. the state of the art in music listening for a long time was cassette tapes. You would take your little cassette tape. Pop it into your Sony 'walkman' and you were away my friend! And the headphones you used got this spectacular experience? Total shit. Later on the music industry started pushing these newer things called "CDs" for music. CDs made it easier to skip tracks and were more reliable. They were also easier to protect with DRM. IDK what the storage capacity of a CD is vs a tape because in data archiving they actually still use tapes for long term storage. So it must not be as shit as it seems.
Anyway, eventually we had these things called 'diskmans' that were portable CD players. Can you imagine? All the kiddos would get together at lunch and swap CDs. Listening to their smash mouths and their brittney tunes. Diskmans were expensive though. Hence only the rich kids had them. I must admit that I couldn't afford one. I had to get on my knees and do some very wizardly things indeed to get access to one. I am convinced the mods would know of such things. But as I continue: the next revolution in portable music players was kind of ground breaking.
APPLE entered the game and started to tear shit up. IDK which ipod came first but soon enough everyone had them. I would say they changed the entire music industry because IPODS operated on mp3s and actual files. This was the era of Limewire, mother fucker. The start of widespread piracy by just about everyone. It basically caused the music industry and others to develop new business models like streaming. They didn't want to have to offer people this shit but they thought that if they made a solution that was better and easier than piracy then they might actually be able to make some money from their content.
To this day the best music player that has probably ever been made was the ipod classic. It's the best for several reasons:
1. It boots instantly so you don't have to keep it on.
2. It's battery lasts about a day.
3. It has over 100 GBs of storage.
4. It's UI is simple, elegant, and beautiful. There is no bullshit to distract you.
On an ipod classic there is nothing to get in the way of listening to music. You don't have to leave it on like with a phone which means you can make the battery last a fucking week if you want to. Simply put: this is the best portable music player made, full stop. But apple stopped making it? Why? Well in their mind their iphone already does everything that a classic can and any sales of the classic might cannibalize sales of the iphone. It was also probably starting to fall behind in sales compared to their newer products. So supporting it would have had little benefit for them. STILL have my classic though. It's fucking amazing.
By the way: the early days of the internet had many interesting forums and websites. There was a huge emphasis on free speech and creative expression because being able to do that online was new. People understood that a technology like the Internet has amazing disruptive potential for all of humanity. It puts information in the hands of anyone. Back then nobody knew how big the internet was going to be but they knew what it already allowed was important. So there was a sense that it needed to be protected. To a large extent: I'm not sure this effort was successful when you look at the sad state of todays web. It's basically just a handful of popular websites. But it wasn't back then.
>>294132>Is your part of london all niggers and pakis and you couldn't find it there?
It was a dangerous part of London if that's what you're asking. But my cousin lived in a similarly or even more deadly part of London. Lots more niggers if you insist on knowing.
>Akira was in the cinema in 1990.
I'm guessing limited screenings at cinemas like Prince Charles and such. Anime movies were still limited screenings until relatively recently unless they were like Studio Ghibli films or a giant franchise like Pokemon.
>There were commercial anime magazines in the early 80s
Specialist magazines my man, you're giving the impression that everybody around was a nerd/geek and was wired into this. This isn't true of every anon. Not everybody lived were you lived or had the internet at the time.
And that's London. What about New Zealand in a small city of 50,000 people?
People project the experience of large population centers in Europe and the States onto the 90s at large. The world wasn't like it is now, where everything just gets released everywhere at once with a giant global release. Here it was legitimately a 3-5 year gap for many technologies being common and for things like anime, it was legit the mid 00s before you broke above shonen
>Commodore as a company barely existed in the US let alone every second computer owner being a commodore.
I said LIKE a commodore. As in, a late 80s computer still running DOS and running from the command line. My sister was still using a DOS computer in the early 00s in her bedroom.
Even in the 00s the rural/urban divide in the States itself was much more pronounced, in the 90s it still a sharp divide.
I don't think people even remember how disconnected from the global arena we were before readily available broadband internet.
it's ruined so many things, the heterogeneous masses of the globe all consooming the same lowest common denominator shit, the rise of the universal brown man, etc
entropy has just increased to the point where free energy has gotten too hard to find. instead of compartmentalization, specialization, etc, we get one giant field of simple, dissipated energy, with which very little work can be done.
50,000 people is not small. That's a fucking lot of people.
Commodore never had a foot hold in America, it tried and failed due to IBM dominance and sabotage. Your small inbred community might have had a few of them but that's the exception not the rule.
Commodore and DOS are totally different. It's like saying a gameboy is like a DS because they're both handhelds.
That's a little bit of an exaggeration, but for sure Commodore got squeezed out of the home PC market once PCs and Macs started rolling out. The Vic 20 and 64 were particularly popular among early home PCs that weren't as completely nerdy as a PET or something that old.
I was always a bit bummed the Amiga didn't catch on more since it was a comparatively impressive A/V and gaming platform, but oh well. Kind of hard for a specialty / gaming computer to compete with the sheer quantity of business machines and Apple's similar strategy of selling to schools, libraries, and commercial uses like layout where had trouble not being stodgy.
You retarded nigger faggot, I was only a kid and barely got a look at my sister's computer. I just remembered it
>Was manufactured in the mid- 80s>Had a CLI>Ran games on cartridges and required console commands to start them.
I asked the old boy about it and he said it wasn't a commodore 64, I only used the comparison because that's a computer from the era I'm familiar with. I'm not even fucking American either, I'm from New Zealand. I don't give a fuck if Commodore never got a foothold in the States or not.
This nigger was so poor he couldn't afford the tape player for his vic 20 where it took a half hour to play the tape all the way to the end to load his favorite game at the end of the tape, and then the thing would be like>NOPE SORRY NOT SORRY TAPE ERROR
and then mom calls you for dinner and dad is simply fuming at your faggot probably cross dressing ass running the tv like electricity is for free or something
Taking road trips used to actually take a lot more planning. We had to buy a map at the store and actually make notes of where we were going. People had to actually navigate themselves.
I'm so pissed off that there are so many people who still can't use the godsend that is GPS. People just don't have the patience for the slightest thing. Every one of these assholes have the ability to use their brains, but at every turn their attention span cuts themselves off at the knees. Makes you wonder how they read maps.
I only look at the GPS if I'm bored or curious what the elevation is. I think I used it once or twice to get a sense for where I was after being lost. I don't have one anymore and it makes literally no difference.
I don't want to mess with that stuff while I'm trying to drive. I have an atlas (which I also rarely use unless I take a very wrong turn or don't have wifi to go look at internet maps to see how things are laid out). And I have a little piece of paper with the relevant exits or landmarks on it to remind me as I go, since obviously I'm going to look at a map first unless the idea is to get lost and see what's over here.
I rarely go backpacking, but even then, you kind of have to stop and figure out where you are once in a while and plan around where you can get more water. Who wants to worry about charging a phone or whatever on top of that when you can just look at a map?
You sound like a tranny
>>293157>Think of what was invented in your time, what laws changed, who was at war, which discoveries and technologies came about
Who the hell would want to talk about boring shit like that?
The "back in my day" complaining is ubiquitous with human civilization.
Everybody complains about the technological limitations of their time, what laws changed, who was at war, which discoveries and technologies came about. At least here in the south of the US. Nobody can shut up about how hard they had it.
Transformers Armada was the second animated transformers media after the generation one show and it literally was an anime you doofus.
Optimus prime's japanese name is Convoy btw
Time doesn't move like it used. Todays kids are complete aliens to their grandparents. There's teenage rebellion and there's being raised by strangers to have polar opposite ideals to what the rest of your family has. Technology has replaced parenting and community in general. It's like saying you had a misquito bite you so you know how it feels to be shot in the same spot.>>294622
I'm not like those OTHER people fags always ignore mainstream animes like that. They can't admit battle of the planets, transformers, robotech and other series were extremely popular. Animation was expensive so reusing Japanese media with new audio saved a fortune for companies. They did that and made animes popular depending on how you look at dubs.
This is more my experience of the 90s than >>293111
, and I'm also in Europe (as I can tell you are). Maybe it's a US vs Europe thing.>>294088
There's something dreamy, ethereal, and sincere about a lot of movies from that time - American Beauty, Donnie Darko, that vibe. The anti-terrorist security state shattered it all.
How can we ever compare times based on our experiences when we are always changing biologically? Were times better on the 90s? Well for me perhaps because I was a happy kid with nice family. I can't look at it clearly because my senses and memory are untrustworthy
I was born in '91 and I have to agree with those posts that put down the 90's. The sweet memories I have of them, thinking about it objectively, are because I was a kid, kids enjoy everything, even kids being born in the 2010s and 2020s now are enjoying current culture. It really was nostalgia.
The games and the anime were great tho. But the times themselves? Nah, it was because we were kids, society was shit too, I was bullied to hell and I hated it. Dropped out of school and changed schools several times also. It wasn't any friendlier to antisocial people.
The internet was better too, but that was because normalfags weren't in it yet, nothing specifically wonderful about the 90's themselves either.
Come to think of it, society was shit if not shittier as it required you to do more irl chores and relate to people more, which I already hated.
I find myself watching this video of proof of how much better things were before I was born.
I can't believe people believe Pinker's lie about things getting better.
You’re a total retard. What in this video makes you to think 90’s were better? Seriously society were always terrible
>>294889>You’re a total retard.
No, you're the retard.
You dumb niggers understand that this video is from the 80s?
>>294889>What in this video makes you to think 90’s were better?
Have you been in a 7/11 at 3 in the morning? Whenever I have to go to a gas station at an ungodly hour you basically flip a d3 about whether you're going to endanger your life or get harrassed by a cop or absolutely no one is there.>>294898
Yes, but close enough, whatever man.
lmao this, dumbfuck retvrn guys are fantasizing about the most idiotic childish shit
>>294900>Yes, but close enough, whatever man.
The 90s and the 80s aren't the same decade you zoomer nigger.
>Have you been in a 7/11 at 3 in the morning? Whenever I have to go to a gas station at an ungodly hour you basically flip a d3 about whether you're going to endanger your life or get harrassed by a cop or absolutely no one is there.
You think this was better simply because it was the 90s? Do you even remember how violent some areas were during the 90s? What am I saying? Of course you don't because you're a zoomer nigger extrapolating from times you weren't around in.>>294912
I liked the 90s, I loved the 00s but returning to the early and mid 90s would be hell on the average nerd unless they already had their nerd group at school or something.
I was a kid in a safe middle class suburb.
The internet was still at web 1.0. Basic static web pages. No dynamic content. No always on instant gratification streaming media you kids take for granted. Most of what we did on the computer was still offline. For first half of 90s my dad got pirated games on floppy disk from friends. I played Doom and Duke Nukem a lot. I explored random games on shareware discs. By the latter half of the 90s my older brother who was actually good with tech had made online social connections with pirates to get anything he wanted basically.
We had high speed internet (not dialup). So my brother pirated so much stuff. Then the ISPs started experimenting throttling. It was big issue of the day back then. At one point somer providers had wide open bandwidth even. Of course this was 20 years ago so by todays standards downloading a movie in a few hours is horrendous. Back then it was glorious.
I explored internet chat rooms. I was connecting to random people around the world. I type hello and ask basic questions about who they are, where they're from in basic plain text. THere was no social media profiles, no preconceived identities about users. I'm a pretty autistic dumass so many people were quite mean to me. Others were nice. By mid to late 90s I situated on my forums that I lurked all the time. I started doing proto-refresh/scroll habit. Constantly checking the board index for new posts/comments.
Some of those forums still exist today and are still active.
I'm pretty sure I still remmeber my passwords but I can't show my face there anymore as a wizard. Must be like coming back as some ghoulish underworld creature. Like smeagol into gollum or something. Some screennames I've breadcrumb traced to find their current day social media profiles. Oh how far they've gone in life.
Of course you young ones all heard of how the internet wasn't all that time consuming back then. This true and applied to me as well. I still had to go outside. I was an acquaintance to a loser group at school. A bottom feeder among bottom feeders. I spent time loitering around the neighbhorhood with them. It was actually kind of nice at the time.
The cable subsciprtion here was about 60-70 channels but realistically less than half were watchable. That's where I discovered Star Trek and Stargate and all the shlocky 90s sci-fi. I loved it. By todays standards those random 90s sci-fi shows would never make it to production.
Gas was so cheap in the 90s. My parents would pack us all into the van and go on road trips. We had to plan out on paper map. Then follow it meticiulously or end up in bumfuck shit hole where even the cops don't stop at stop signs. You didn't know what was there until you got there. There was no looking it up online. You sort of knew there was some attraction to see. Didn't know how it was until the car rolled up.
Nobody from around the neighbor was on social media. No such thing existed of course. I supposed kids these days an follow all your real life friends and even random people from school. When I crushed on a g rl I saw her at school and that was it. I suppose kids today have her insta, tiktok, onlyfans, or whatever.
As we neared our later teen years. This phase when everyone is practicing adult responsbilities. I couldn't keep up. I was stunted at the middle school level of development. So my peers left me in the dust. By 2000s had come around I retreated full blown into sitting in my room spending all my time on my main forums.
I made friends with guys who worked in California in the tech companies. One guy sent me games and PC hardware from his company. I got sent a GPU that was so good my PC didn't even support it. Years later my dad bought me a CPU and mobo upgrades so I could use it. I was on another gaming forum where I got stuff from game developers there. It's how I got my legit retail CD copy of Half-Life. You must understand nobody had to buy/pay for any games back then. There was no pay-to-play, DLC, whatever hypermonetization you guys have today. I was born into piracy. That's all I ever knew.
For I while my dad paid a few bucks month to access an online gaming service to play networked games. My dad was a bit of a gamer too. He found himself in a clan where they owned noobs together. (Do kids even know that internet word anymore? Clan?) They ranked at the top of the scoreboards. Maybe it's like an early version of your gaming Discord.
Internet discourse is so different now. Everybody shouts into virtual public spaces trying grab a little piece of the global attention economy. There's very little that is social about the modern medium. Everybodys trying to posture themselves for show because there's millions of other eyes watching you interact with your interlocutor. It's a popularity contest. A giant global sparring arena.
Cmon! YEAH! BTFO that nerd!
10000 uplikes for you!
It's like watching even more retard versions of televised political debates. People are giving their stump speech. Not caring about what the other person is saying. It's about making a show of it.
The old internet was people just talking to each other with no audience watching on. Yeah there was anonymity to hide behind so assholes were everywhere. But once you dug down to proper socialization it was fine. It was so much more like real life talking to people, looking back at it now. Where as back then you were considered a fucking nerd for using internet to socialize.
Generally the politics talk online wasn't a central focus unless you sought it out. I think most people avoided it. Forum mods/admins tended to create separate threads for people who wanted to do their butthurt slap fights in there. In this modern day it is the bread and butter of social plaforms.
It's a myth that the old internet was about upholding free speech. You kids today would fucking hate the old internet. People were civil to each other. Communities self moderated (in addition to having admin/moderators). It wasn't some free for all where you could say anything you wanted. Good communities had rules that were enforced. Don't be an asshole or you'd get run out of the community. You treated each other like you would a person in real life. Couldn't be running your mouth because "free speech!".
The "free speech" of the internet meant if you didn't want to follow the rules then fuck off. Find another or make your own forum where you liked those rules. Same thing still applies today. Don't like the rules then fuck off to your own plaform. Don't fucking cry about it like a bitch. Certainly don't act like your human rights are being oppressed. What fucking retardation.
There wasn't as much psychological effects as social media. If you got into an argument online then you were just two guys who disagreed. End of story. Today it's like you're doing it on a big paltform where the world can watch. You're trying to actually *win* an argument. Trying to make a public display for an audience. There's something at stake. You're trying to win actual internet points. Which reminds me of how we used to joke about internet points. Today there's literal scores attached to you as in followers, likes, karma, retweets. All that social graph bullshit. Fucking tech bro ghouls hijacked psychology to fuck with our brains. For the sake of their engagement metrics. To add another dollar to their billionaire coffers.
Back then the forum admins were just people making a board so we could post messages. Simple.
You sound like a boomerLMAO
Probably cause you're so used to hearing zoomer larps.
Do words have no meanings to zoomers or something?
Zoomer vocabulary is retarded. They just use the same template. "Mid" is now a word.
Boomers are usually naive retards. They never talk about the niggers infesting their cities or anything controversial, only controlled talking points.
Yeah, your suburb was 99% white, that is why it was safe. You don't talk about the literal nigger ghettos that are filled with trash and weird looking creatures that will harass you for money.
You also don't talk about the censorship and controlled political landscape of modern social media. It's all tightly controlled so "progressivism"/wokism can flourish and their ideas and ideals can be propagated to the soft heads of the youth. These social platforms literally exist to brainwash people and make money for corporations.
The reason the "social media" of the past was fun and entertaining was because Jews/liberals/faggot retards didn't have a reason to try to propagandize it or control the conversation because it was mostly irrelevant in terms of the number of people using the internet and those forums.
>>294942>Refers to millennials as boomers>/pol/tard talk about "safety">imagines all millennials lived in the suburbs>ignores the talk about how streamlined and controlled social media by millennial anons because dogshit zoomer needs to give his worthless take
You should kill yourself.
“ whereas an open computer conference begins with a small number of well-informed and highly interested participants, it soon attracts others. That's all right; it's supposed to attract others. Where else would you get new ideas? But soon it attracts too many, far too many, and some of them are not only ignorant but aggressively misinformed. Dilution takes place. Arguments replace discussions. Tempers are frayed. The result is that while computer conferencing began by saving time, it starts to eat up all the time it saved and more. Communications come from dozens of sources. Much of it is redundant. Some of it is stupid. The user spends more and more time dealing with irrelevancies. One day the user wakes up, decides the initial euphoria was spurious, and logs off, never to return. This is known as burnout, and it's apparently quite common.”
>>294942>The reason the "social media" of the past was fun and entertaining was
You sound like a boomer.
it's hard to imagine that there are in fact people this stupid
Brazil monkey detected
You were 4 at the end of the 90s and 14 at the end of the 2000s. You currently use slang such as pozzed.
You were like 10 when the first iPhone came out?
And are talking about how "every normalfag suddenly realized technology could be fun" then.
Don't talk about things you don't know about and are getting the context well after the fact.
I agree that everything kept getting worse in a rapid fashion after 2010 but your timeline is not really accurate.
Attention whoring succubi already entered the internet before the first smartphone came out, they were on MySpace and on MSN during that time for example and that was around 2005, it just wasn't such a huge part of their lives as it is now and even on 4chan there were attention whoring threads made by succubi back then. That was the start of the mess we have now, even the whole egirl faggotry is almost the same thing as the 2005 MySpace emo succubi who had shitloads of pictures on their profiles with colored hair and tons of makeup while behaving in sexually suggestive ways to get the attention of simps.
There were already loads of AOL chatrooms in the mid 90s full of 4chan tier trolling and humor but definitely no succubi that's true.
The real problem is that they kept making the internet more and more normie conform in a slow process and that leads us the the cesspool we are in now, it was an inevitable process and smartphones just accelerated it.
>>295230>Attention whoring succubi already entered the internet before the first smartphone came out, they were on MySpace and on MSN during that time for example and that was around 2005, it just wasn't such a huge part of their lives as it is now and even on 4chan there were attention whoring threads made by succubi back then. That was the start of the mess we have now, even the whole egirl faggotry is almost the same thing as the 2005 MySpace emo succubi who had shitloads of pictures on their profiles with colored hair and tons of makeup while behaving in sexually suggestive ways to get the attention of simps.
Secondly, you're using a modern lens to view this shit through and you're getting things backwards. I know this is wizchan, but those attention-seeking succubi are not the same type of attention-seeking whores of today. Depending on what part of the internet you were on they usually low status succubi, be it nerds, scene, emo or whatever. They were more "authentic" for the lack of a better word because having a few followers on the internet didn't really mean jack shit outside of the internet or even outside of the niche they were from. succubi with higher social capital didn't have much to gain in these places because of high effort (learning to use computers) and low returns.
When smartphones appeared and corps started streamlining the internet, it made easier for retards to get online and be online 24/7 (and obliterating the line between the internet and real life) that meant instead of e-whores with localised gravitational pulls you now have God Queens with travelling space-distorting gravitational pull.
It's not a direct line from myspace emos to "egirls", like it's not a not direct from geeks to modern day "geeks". It's popular people wearing the skins of conquered subcultures.
>>295230>The real problem is that they kept making the internet more and more normie conform in a slow process and that leads us the the cesspool we are in now, it was an inevitable process and smartphones just accelerated it
its not inevitable, if anything its inevitable that the tides will turn and we will win this battle. the internet is fundamentally structured in our favor, it is not native ground to the normalscum. >>294931>It's a myth that the old internet was about upholding free speech
of course it wasnt. the cultural implications of the internet werent thought out then acted upon by everyone who happened to own a computer, a new culture has to develop naturally. with a small group of people a culture can change quickly, but more people means more inertia to that change. just because normalfags flooded the internet and seemingly undid what was created before them people think that the internet is dead forever, but there was a reason the internet became so special to begin with, and i dont think the original inhabitants being super special people plays as big of a role as people think it does.
the old internt had no succubi, it was such a joke that anytime you were in a chatroom and someone claimed to be one it was probably some fat bearded guy pretending.
Its not that there were people going on about free speech back then, but it was more freer, and people had a more libertarian attitude and ethic to the whole cyber space thing
Gen Z is horrifyingly stupid.https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/z-library-ebook-site-domains-seized-by-us-dept-of-justice/
>Yesterday, the websites hosted at z-lib.org, b-ok.org, and 3lib.net began displaying a message stating that the service was seized by the US DOJ and the Postal Inspection Service,
>The USTR (United States Trade Representative) has recently launched an investigation on the platform, causing social media platforms where users promoted Z-Library to be more cautious with what is allowed.
>As reported by TorrentFreak last week, TikTok decided to block hashtags related to Z-Library, reportedly responding to copyright holder's complaints.
>"Reducing user discoverability of content that violates our Community Guidelines is of paramount importance," stated TikTok.
>"Accordingly, TikTok proactively blocks search results for terms that violate our Community Guidelines, including terms that relate to counterfeit goods […]. We also recently blocked search results for #zlibrary while our team assesses content associated with that hashtag."
Gen Z retards had z-lib trending on tiktok.
This is why we can never go back, this is why the modern internet sucks, because Gen Z "nerds" are cut from a completely different cloth to earlier nerds.
I don’t know if I can claim it’s just gen-z because strictly speaking I’m gen-z and I’m 24. But you’re correct that there is a fundamentally different way people perceive the internet now. When I was a little kid my parents always told me shit like never give out personal info and never meet up in the internet. Fast forward fifteen years and not only do all my ten year old cousins use TikTok and give out every detail of their lives over it and Twitter, instagram, etc. but even my parents who taught me pretty good internet safety fall pretty to it themselves. The internet illiteracy went back into swing not because these kids had no internet but because they always have it. It’s so normalized that the thought would never occur to them to try and hide a torrent site, while my parents couldn’t tell you what a torrent is.
>its not inevitable, if anything its inevitable that the tides will turn and we will win this battle. the internet is fundamentally structured in our favor, it is not native ground to the normalscum.
I wouldn't be so sure about that, the trends are going towards an even more sterile internet controlled by just a few big corporations, it's most likely gonna get dumbed down even more to make it more accessible to normies.>>295264
As I wrote, it was the beginning and I do see a lot of similarities, impulsive BPD type succubi whoring for attention from nerdy types which I referred to as "simps" because they provided them with attention and validation while getting absolutely nothing in return. The egirls succubi we have today are also not that high on the status ladder and their fans are still men who are low status as well, it's all just happening on a very big scale now and they are able to make a profit and can delude themselves into thinking they are great irl when they go to twitch con or some other faggy convention which is all a result of the commercialization of gaming and so forth but without that they'd have to resort to making attention whoring threads on imageboards and similar things.
What changed is the rise of actual popular succubi on the internet such as model types and fit succubi who make huge money with OF and IG model deals and they entered way later, I agree with that and these succubi are high status even without their little internet persona in contrast to egirls who could never stop their larping without fading away eventually.
My point was that the notion of no succubi on the internet before the smartphone came up is just wrong because there were attention whores on the internet before that, even on the old 4chan and the main reason they used the internet was to get attention from losers but I agree that the succubi back then weren't larping as much because not even gaming was really popular among normies.
Felt nostalgic reading this, they said things like "the internet is dangerous" and now we have a shitload of boomers oversharing on facebook while their children are online all day. This shows that some dystopian tech predictions might actually happen in the future because most people just do what's popular, can't wait for them to get brain implants.
>>295278> because there were attention whores on the internet before that, even on the old 4chan
This is true, and to put it in context. Old /b/ if a succubus posted her face with shoe on head, or nudes, they got a -chan name and got referenced for weeks or months. Some would be referenced on ign forums or whatever, and the internet was small enough they didn’t get doxxed constantly. One succ would get a month of attention, now there’s thousands posting to Reddit maybe getting 3 comments. So it was always there, but small.
In 2003 onwards I knew some succubi my age online, I can think of 3 succubi who were femanons - often drawfags. 2000+ different from the 90s proper. Something awful had succubi in the mainstream internet culture sphere early on. Most were just assumed to be men unless they said otherwise - I guess that’s changed.
I would say old internet was hostile to succubi, but it was more dismissive. I can’t remember aggression on forums for example with succubi, nowhere near the hatred and sexually charged abuse now. The sexual dynamic has ruined a lot of things as you say.
Femanons like boxxy would most likely just be another succubus on a long list of egirls nowadays that no one would give a fuck about as much, she didn't even have to talk about anything sexual to get attention back in those days which is crazy to think about now. Everything is so oversaturated with attention whores now you can find a shitload of succubi like her on any public discord server. The only ones that stand out have either done something pornographic or they used their 80 female IQ to play the simp game in a smarter way. Sometimes I wonder if this faggotry could get any worse or if it gets old even for normies standards at some point.
>>295293>Femanons like boxxy would most likely just be another succubus on a long list of egirls nowadays that no one would give a fuck about as much,
You (almost definitely) wouldn't get a femanon/internet personality/-chan succubus like boxxy in this day and age. You wouldn't get most of the internet personalities of the web 2.0(?) era today. I don't think many people realize how unique and fragile the conditions for the old internet (and geek culture) were.
>she didn't even have to talk about anything sexual to get attention back in those days which is crazy to think about now.
That's not a positive development.
>Sometimes I wonder if this faggotry could get any worse or if it gets old even for normies standards at some point.
You have to remember that normalfags were "above" this sort of behaviour. Remember in the 00s and late 90s meeting people off the internet was seen as a sad thing to do, to the point that it was a plot device in TV shows and films?
It’s weird how everyone thinks imageboard culture was always this aggressive and full of shitty people. It really wasn’t, the internet has degenerated in to a hostile shithole. People got mad, flamed, whatever… but this soulless modern internet is like watching homeless heroin addicts fighting. It’s so disheartening how there’s hundreds of millions of people online who have spent their entire conscious world in this modern internet.
the only thing that a boxxy like character today couldnt do, is become so famous, due to so many competing personalities. boxxy, crackychan basically paved the way for the modern egirl, so no shit they won't be famous for being cheap fascimilies of the real thing, but they can easily get validation, even if they don't post sexually. now a days you can probably find thirty succubi in any trendy town who spiritually are with boxxy. what notoriety from something now so ubiquitous.
I was born in the early 90s. i barely remember anything.
yeah like in the end, if they're always like this, then. Who the fuck are they even nice to.. ever?
but the whole soul sucking reddit hugbox circlejerk is even dumber.
I'd rather speak with someone who is authentic and toxic, than inauthentic just babbling nonsense so I won't hate them..
dont people come to shitty anonymous websites to blow of steam and then maintain face on non-anonymous websites? if i said niggerfaggot jewkike on my non anonymous social media i would have negative consequences if they find my powerlevel
you can find subject matter experts with their posts to common Q/A questions archived on leddit. get off the main subs and don't engage in casual chatter and it's a pretty good site
Thank you for not being a pretentious faggot and calling yourself a "90s kid"
True 90s wizkids were born in 2001
I guess the real y2k kids are millennials too
Keyword. They're surface-level copies of copies of an algamation of several internet personalities. Xerox'd to the point where the most of finer details don't exist anymore.
The vast, VAST, majority of them aren't genuine in whatever bullshit they're peddling or claiming to be.
And I'm not just talking -chan succubi, I'm talking internet personalities as a collective. No Lowtax (RIP), no moot, no Maddox, no AVGN, no boxxy, etc will (almost) never appear again.
Modern internet personalities now have the sole goal of making as much money or gaining followers as possible while have the veener of genuine interest.
Ecelebs are more famous than ever what are you saying.
>>293111>no internet to really speak of
they had in the 90s
I think BBS was from the 80s. This was mainly in universitys. If you were in a university in USA or west europe. then proto internet existed.
I got internet in 2006, and I have spoked to old people who used the internet in the 90s. Fallout 1 for example had internet, so I dont get it why you people say internet did not exist in the 90s. In Sweden for example BBS was huge in the 90s and did exist I think in the 80s. Mostly only 20 year old people who had university IT stuff, through. do no know what you are talking about.
image board are from textboards, which was from BBS.
WHY YOU NOT TALK ABOUT BBS of 80s and 90S????? I did use BBS, in the 10s, but nothing special. There exist a BBS in my country with like 10 people who are super GAY, like 30 to 60 year old people who do not let you join there GAY group if you are like super SPECIAL or some shit.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system
Also why dose wizardchan textboard not work?
The textboard was wiped that one time Wizchan went down, and the admin is too lazy to put it back up.
Not him, but *read* his post with context from the reply chain.
You no longer have internet personalities in the style of the old web 2.0 days, i.e. people who had passion or were doing this shit for fun, now you have dudebros and onlyfans whores as internet personalities.
Thats objectively false, there are great personalities, great skills, and they broadcast. Eceleb culture is way better now.
Holy shit zoomer. If you think legitimately think that then I'm glad the death of subculture and authenticity happened on your watch.
Oh no authentic parasocial relationships with strangers were better in some past. Boo hoo. Real retard.
I think that's a objectively retarded opinion.
Oh fucking come on, this has got to be bait. There's no fucking way anyone is this delusional.
If it were bait why respond?
Where chanawhores laid the way, egirls cary the torch.
He's probably sends egirls money.>>296110
You really don't understand what is being talked about.
Yes, I do. Im glad that era of chanwhores is ovsr and every fat ugly succubus is one
>>296114>sends money to egirls
We're gonna be saying "wizchan 2023" soon playa
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The things you talk about still exist, it's the platforms that's changed. You can't say RIP VHS, why is no one making no new movies when they're making endless streaming garbage. The mediums changed and you didn't keep up so you miss out on Nu internet culture. I think those platforms suck too so you'll never seen me on tiktok or discord but that's where the current fluid internet is while we sit on the frozen internet long forgotten.