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 No.293213

The internet parrots "relatability" endlessly, but that can't be all there is to it.

I believe admiration is what actually makes a character a favorite. Its powers, in the most abstract sense, what it can do, defines the virtues the viewer can admire.

Relatability has a multiplying effect: what the character does is more interesting when the viewer can relate, thus it's easier to admire it since you're paying more attention. But relatability is not as crucial to favoritism, because it's the admiration that breeds it.

In the end, what guides one's favoritism are the capabilities a character has: physical might and good looks are to anyone's liking, so fighting prowess and beauty are an advantage on people's internal rating and it's what make such characters figure high in popularity. But certain qualities, skills and attributes are bound to appeal to people differently based on their on preferences - hence favoritism for characters.

Thought about it after noticing how main characters are often written with relatability in mind (ending up bland) and are rarely anyone's single favorite.

 No.293214

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she's my favourite because she sets nihilists on fire

 No.293217

i like retarded characters. they never have to experience longing, defeat, or true agony. i'm very envious of them.
examples: andy and lucy in twin peaks. a lot of the sopranos cast. walt jr. and huell in breaking bad.

they're simple and pure and get to enjoy life thanks to their low IQ.

i also enjoy and envy true evil supervillains. emperor palpatine practically has an orgasm over trolling normalfags. he gets to do whatever he wants all the time. their powers, abilities and outfits always look cooler than the "good guys".

 No.293344

what kind of fiction are you talking about here, i doubt people expect the same from some shounen anime as they do from a novel for instance. i don't mean to sound like a snob but you get the idea.
don't really know what to say to answer the question, i would say their shortcomings?

 No.293346

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having favorite things, is for people who are children. adult people, do not have favorite things. the mindset of having a favorite thing can only exist in a society of plenty. humans were created in nature were nothing is of plenty. you take what you get, not choose from plenty. having favorite things is for child minded people who are not adults.

 No.293347

>>293346
>nothing is of plenty
Flowers, trees, fruits, vegetables, animals, clouds, lakes, rivers, hills mountains, sounds, STARS

All are plenty and occur in nature. I reverse your sage (pronounced sah-gey, it's Japanese)

 No.293350

>>293346
I'm not sure what compelled you to make this post.

 No.293354

>>293350
he's trying to sound smart i think

 No.293355

>>293354
he succeeded

 No.293356

>>293355
how so. he's completely off topic. like that would sort of make sense if we were talking about being excessively picky about food or clothes but it completely misses the point of the thread here.

 No.293380

>>293344
Nothing indicates that genre would influence character preference.
At most, some types of media attract some demographics and, as consequence, some characters end up more popular because they appeal to the target audience (e.g. Sasuke Uchiha clones being omnipresent in social reject media like manga).

Popular works have been trying to throw a wide net on the audience, though. Movies like the Avengers meticulously put a bunch of different characters on the protagonist team to appeal to the public: there is the nice jock Captain America, the womanizer Iron Man, the nerdy and brutal Hulk, the black Eagle Eye, the succubus Black Widow, etc.

 No.293385

If gantz is anything related then it's being a 14 year old boy.

 No.293386

>>293385
Gantz is the story of an adult otaku with a pronounced, debilitating giantess fetish who desperately wanted to draw manga professionally but did not have anywhere near a full series within him; a story of a rapid rise followed by a long-burning fall in which he exposed all of his authorial flaws on the way down, including his giantess fetishism during the moments of unbearable desperation and the realization of his limits. It is a relatable tragedy, and thus hews closely to the argument against mere relatability laid out in the OP's text:
>Relatability has a multiplying effect: what the character does is more interesting when the viewer can relate, thus it's easier to admire it since you're paying more attention. But relatability is not as crucial to favoritism, because it's the admiration that breeds it.
Because Oku ultimately lacked followthrough he could not be admired, and could not become anyone's favorite character.

 No.293649

>>293386
You mean the manga where he explains something about gantz?



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