No.307403
>using admin tags on the most degenerate thread on the website
Absolutely haram
No.307405
>>307403it's damage control with a heterosexual pic after he accidentally dumped 9 picks of bara Big Boss with his tag on
No.307408
>>307402allow only celibate porn
No.307410
>>307402UOOOOHHHHHHHHHH CUNNY
No.307414
>>307405The guy who did that isn't part of the mod team anymore. No more blatant faggots or trannies in the mod team. Things are going to change around here. Wizchan isn't a playground for Discord trannies anymore.
No.307417
I don't want it on the site but as a compromise I would accept having a dedicated /fap/ board as long as that board does not show up on /all/. That way if you want to see porn, you can go to the board and if you don't want to see it, don't go to the board and it won't constantly show up like it does currently. That would also allow people to make individual threads to suit their own fetishes instead of having them all rolled up into one thread, disgusting the people who do not share that particular fetish.
No.307419
I think porn and other adult material being talked about and shared here in relevent threads like the fap thread or the threads talking about VN and erotic games are fine.
It's just that the artifical forcing of all pornographic content into a single thread and forcing people with massively different taste, interest, and topics of discussion has caused constant problems and infighting among the people who do appreciate adult content.
It makes very little sense that any attempt to have separate threads for straight and homosexual content is actively and vehemently punished.
It makes no sense that western adult content is regularly hidden by mods but eastern adult content rarely is.
It also makes no sense that audio only erotica, and linking to written erotica is defacto banned.
Hell, sometimes the mods with ban links to songs they don't like for rule 7.
Also
>threatening legal action of some sort
Only time I recall legal action being threatened is when you guys left actual child porn or links to child porn up for hours and hours then punished anyone who complained about it being left up for so long.
No shit, real deal child pornography can't be allowed. It will get the site shit canned again from the host as well as get the law involved. Which would be bad, obviously.
But normal, legal in the USA porn is fine and just a matter of taste.
As long as adult content is properly labled and partisioned so that those who don't want to engage with such content don't have to, then I am most certainly in favor of pornography and other adult content being allowed.
But for the love of peace can the staff stop forcing everything into a single thread. I am tired of the one or two fags who get off on being shocking spoiling the otherwise good vibes of any thread involving adult content.
(pic technically related to overall thread topic, tis a good h-game, many faps were had, lol.)
No.307428
>>307419Just do what everyone else does and post your horny shit on /b/
No.307430
>>307414you sound like a teenage zoomer retard. It's probably the lingo you use. And probably because you're a edgy zoomer retard. Anyhow, suck dick, you little bitch
No.307431
>>307417Yeah, separate board that's not listed on /all/ would be nice. Every fucked up fetish and particular orientation and orifice preference can have its own thread(s) and you self-moderate and hide stuff that doesn't tickle your dick or makes you butthurt. Simple as!
Seriously, the fap thread is less about sharing stuff and mostly about posting the kind of material you know will cause the most butthurt. "Why yes, I jerk off to THIS haha, how does that make you feel?" - some faggot with a shit eating grin probably.
Also, I think banning 3D was a retarded move, not only because it was decided by a fucking poll but because it's just arbitrary like most of the rules. I remember when some mod made a stinker and banned those anime streamer characters completely out of the blue based on his wizardly vibe and it being 3D in spirit. Just tell me if that motherfucker is still on the staff? Because lmao. You can't even post a music video with a 3d succubus on /b/ of all places.
No.307432
No more fap threads. I don't care what you fap to, I will not and have never fapped to anything posted here. If you want to post porn you don't belong here. Ban anyone who posts porn, I don't want to share the site with brain fried coomers who can only contribute porn to the website.
No.307433
>>307431>Yeah, separate board that's not listed on /all/ would be nice.i support this idea as well. it would be the best for both groups, to have a board for hentai where any anti-hentai sentiment is not allowed, and ban all hentai out of the rest of the boards.
the fap thread is a fucking shitshow. i love loli and hentai, but i hate opening it because i know i'll find quite a lot of stuff that is very off-putting to me, and much of which i suspect is maliciously posted for that very reason.
>Also, I think banning 3D was a retarded move, not only because it was decided by a fucking poll but because it's just arbitrary like most of the rules.banning 3dpd is not arbitrary lmao. it's inherently crabfaggotry to fawn over succs. the issue of vtubers is not quite as unambiguous, but it's not too far removed that.
>Just tell me if that motherfucker is still on the staff?we can only hope so. it's always good to have someone like to balance out the scales a bit more towards the truwiz side.
>You can't even post a music video with a 3d succubus on /b/ of all places.gurl lover mad.
No.307434
>>307433>it's inherently crabfaggotry to fawn over succs. You can just as easily fawn over 2D images, even more so since they're idealized and specifically made to activate the SEXO part of your brain.
Either let 3D, or ban all porn. If the realism bros have to suffer, so can the pedos and weebs. It's only fair.
>it's always good to have someone like to balance out the scales a bit more towards the truwiz side.Yeah, it's always great to have a retard make up rules on the spot based on his own notions of what's wizardly and not, without discussing it with the community. I think the admin was absent during that time and the fucker made the decision on his own.
No.307435
Don't go for a separate board, you will get users from all over coming here just to use THAT board, and then infecting the others. One dedicated thread on /b/ would be enough.
No.307436
>>307435*sound of millions of coomers overflowing wizchan servers because its the only place on the internet you can find milquetoast cartoon porn*
No.307437
>>307436Never underestimate these people.
No.307439
>>307434>If the realism bros have to suffer, so can the pedos and weebs. It's only fair.i see, so you're pro 3dpd-fawning and are just resentful that it's not allowed. but both of those extremes are undesirable for most wizzies who don't find themselves on either of them (neither the "allow all porn even 3dpd" pole, nor the purest truwiz "ban all 2d-fawning" one). (furthermore, 2d beauty pulls wizzies onward and away from the mindnumbing poisons of materialism and the contemporary nihilism that plague western culture, of which the anti-2d nonsense is also a manifestation.)
>it's always great to have a retard make up rules on the spot based on his own notions of what's wizardly and notthere is a basic core of what's wizardly and his decision was consistent with an interpretation of that core that was leaning towards the truwiz extreme. it's not as wildly arbitrary as you make it seem to be.
>without discussing it with the community.in the discussion thread those who didn't agree with the decision were a small minority (actually, i think it might've been a single person or two) and the arguments were terrible.
No.307440
>>307439I say it's arbitrary because 3d/2d is just a matter of taste. You happen to agree with the decision because your tastes align, but don't pretend like it's more wizardly to be a sex obsessed idiot if it's a drawing of a child getting gangbanged and having its insides stretched out by a guy with a giant dick. That's apparently less dirty than some vanilla missionary or a fucking music video where the singer happens to be also pretty.
>arguments were terribleYes, how convenient. What if the two or three super truwiz dudes were absent that day and didn't get their word in? Bad luck then, cuz that shit is LAW now and it's going to be enforced by the new admin and the one afterwards and the one afterwards for no other reason that because of precedence of some retard before.
No.307441
>>307439It was a different time. Back then normalfags actually hated any cartoon porn or hentai. Nowadays you will see normalfags casually post and discuss cunny and loli 2d porn because this is what's popular. You're not gatekeeping normals out by posting lolis, you're just showing you're a cringe normalfag that's into whatever is popular at the time yourself.
It's either no porn at all or all porn. Muh 3dpd isn't an argument in the current year when every normalfag loves 2d porn and has a tomoko or lain as a waifu.
No.307443
>>307431>Also, I think banning 3D was a retarded move, not only because it was decided by a fucking poll but because it's just arbitrary like most of the rules. I remember when some mod made a stinker and banned those anime streamer characters completely out of the blue based on his wizardly vibe and it being 3D in spirit. Just tell me if that motherfucker is still on the staff? Because lmao. You can't even post a music video with a 3d succubus on /b/ of all places.I 100% agree.
That rule has been so abused and is so inconsistently applied as to cause more problems then it ever solved.
If porn in general was separated from general content then I fail to see how it would be a problem.
Then mods couldn't claim stuff that is clearly not porn, like non-sexual music videos, or family friendly streamers, is somehow banned just because the mod at the time just personally doesn't like it.
It's long been a rule that has been arbitrarily abused to a annoying degree.
It's easy to hide or ignore bad porn threads.
It's impossible to hide bad moderation.
No.307444
>>307417Agreed. I think it is absurd that there is porn allowed on a virgin site. Having it on the main boards means I cant avoid it. I dont want to see it at all but i dont really care if i can actually avoid. 'just hide the thread' is not effective for me - i still have to have my eyes assaulted by it before i hide it, and i dont store cookies
No.307445
>>307444Yet you are able to push through your offense to post directly into a porn thread.
I strongly doubt your sincere. You just enjoy when people who like what you don't have bad things happen to them.
No.307448
>>307403Who the fuck runs this site now?
No.307450
>>307445It was shoved in my face against my will and i saw the admin tag.
>I strongly doubt your sincerefreak
No.307451
>>307450>It was shoved in my face against my willDid you die?
Really did anything happen at all?
You know how the [-] button works.
Besides, if adult content was partisioned to it's own board, even a hidden board, then better rules and containment could be made and all the surface boards could be strictly sfw content.
That would be a win win solution.
But you just want to piss off and annoy people who like what you don't like.
I see through people like you.
You try to use you taking offence at things as a weapon to get your way, like being offended actually does anything and is anyone's problem but your own.
You know full well you would still use this site even if every thread had meatbags fornicating.
You are full of shit.
No.307452
>>307451I argued in favour of having a separate porn board, you retard.
>Did you die?No. I just don't like it.
>You know how the [-] button works. If you actually keep the same IP address and retain cookies, then wow you really are fucked up. I suggest you learn about the internet and how to protect yourself.
>You know full well you would still use this site even if every thread had meatbags fornicating.Definitely not.
No.307453
>>307452If you want to be a paranoid scizo who makes things more inconvenient for yourself then that is literally your own self caused problem and no one else's.
Fact of the matter is you choose to be offended. You make choices that mean you see porn.
No.307454
>discuss the future of pornographic content on Wizchan.
the suggestions and current implementations are as follows
the [x] shows what rules wizchan currently uses
stance
[x] allow 2d porn
[ ] allow 3d porn
[ ] allow all porn
where
[x] on the entire site
[ ] within any the existing hidden boards
[ ] within /b/ specifically
[ ] within the existing fap thread on /lounge/
[ ] within the fap thread, but moved to /b/
[ ] within a completely new porn board, /fap/
condition
[x] spoiler outside fap thread
[x] spoiler gross
[ ] spoiler gay
[ ] spoiler loli
[ ] no gross
[ ] no gay
[ ] no loli
No.307456
>>307454im ok with keeping things as they are
im also ok with a new /fap/ or /h/ board for posting 2d, and 3d is still banned
im also ok allowing 3d if it's only allowed on /b/ (no more fap thread on lounge) and the rest of the site becomes SFW
im also ok with banning gay 3d content if 3d is ever allowed
any of of those is fine. keeping things as they are is the simplest and so i would vote for that though
No.307457
>>307454>>307456Having pondered this for awhile…
I would be for the creation of a new board for nsfw content in general
I would be for the replacement of rule 7 with a no nsfw rule for all boards besides the nsfw board.
I would be for the expansion of rule 2 to cover fawning over people to compensate for the removal of rule 7.
I mean the mods always ignored the "solely" part of rule 7 anyway and usually pulled content out of context to make their justification on banning stuff.
With a modification of rule 2, it is context/behavor dependent when it comes to sfw content. If someone is actually through their behavor simpping for some pop star or something then the post would be deleted. If they are just posting some pop star in a thread where it's totally on topic, and everything posted is safe for work, and they aren't talking about how much they want to bang them or some other dumb crab bullshit, then there is no way to justify deleting that post anymore, even if the mod hates that popstar's guts or whatever.
Seriously rule 7 causes way more problems with non-pornographic content then it does with porn.
Using a SFW, NSFW content divide would both make things more clear for moderation and segregate porn and other potentially offensive content into it's own free speech zone for the wizards who wish to fully express themselves in such a way.
No.307458
>>307414I fucking knew it. "Anons" kept insisting it was just obsession and paranoia but the gaslighting was obvious
>>307431>gachatard seething his simping is bannedThe mod is correct, vtubers aren't any different than tittystreamers. It's all a predatory exploit of how male brains work.
There is a reason you don't see heterosexual men watch male vtubers. You don't notice anything strange about how there's so many male streamers, but no major male vtubers for a similar audience? Really makes one ponder…
No.307461
>>307460It's not on topic and you don't make a rational argument.
You just project random bullshit and have/will ignore any information to the contrary.
You are just trolling.
No.307462
>>307454copying this format
[x] allow 2d porn
[x] allow 3d porn
[ ] allow all porn
where
[ ] on the entire site
[x] within any the existing hidden boards
[ ] within /b/ specifically
[x] within the existing fap thread on /lounge/
[ ] within the fap thread, but moved to /b/
[ ] within a completely new porn board, /fap/
condition
[ ] spoiler outside fap thread
[x] spoiler gross
[ ] spoiler gay
[x] spoiler loli
[ ] no gross
[x] no gay
[ ] no loli
homosexuals should be banned its part of rule 2 and undermines real wizards when you have gays hitting on other dudes here.
>>307433what this person said as well
>quite a lot of stuff that is very off-putting to me, and much of which i suspect is maliciously posted for that very reason.it was made pretty clear from the last thread the dude spamming gay porn was trying to force his fetish onto other people and acting like a groomer. either allow 3D straight porn or get rid of the faggots.
No.307463
>>307461My argument is that vtubers are 3dpd playing a character.
If 3dpd putting on makeup and filters don't get a pass, why should 3dpd putting on a full body filter get a pass?
At least with hentai there's a whole team of people in the creative process, not just one succubus grifting because a psychological exploit in men and a business behind them marketing them.
No.307464
>>307463>It's not on topic and you don't make a rational argumentDon't care about your bullshit.
You are trying to derail the thread. It's obvious.
This isn't the thread to revive this old trolling.
No.307465
>>307414with how you guys use /pol/ language like this and post pepes on /b/, im surprised you made this thread at all instead of just banning porn outright as part of your new "make wizchan into /fit/" regiment. replace last fap thread with a vitamin peddler general, how about that?
No.307469
>>307468Is your stuff huge succubi or small horses?
No.307470
>>307469If I am honest, I am pulling from my fantasy art and normal art folders because most adult content I actually download tends to be games.
I mean I have a bit, but not much. Single images don't really do it for me.
I ether need a story to go along with it, or for it to be a whole animated scene.
As for if it's a big succubus or tiny horse in the image, it's a tiny horse ridden by fairies if I remember correctly.
No.307475
I'm cool with banning all porn except on /b/. Not because it's unwizardly, or I don't want to see it, or that it affects me in any way, but because it honestly doesn't affect me, it doesn't really do anything for wizchan as a whole, causes lots of butthurt (maybe from the same people), and is controversial. So either ban it or solidify it as a non-changing rule to be posted in the fap thread. Then, from there, instead of people talking about banning porn, there should be votes on how the porn threads will operate. Should it be hidden automatically? Should it be expanded into a board? Should be allow 3D? Should there be specific anti-trolling rules just for this thread? Who should make the thread? What about the OP images? Et Cetera. You either ban it and the hate goes away or solidify it and say the discussion's over, time for new discussion. That's what I think, ya hear? And inside that discussion could TOTALLY be an expansion to the thread by making it a board. The discussion has been going on for many years, and it's been long overdue to be addressed and ended.
The point of this post isn't to advocate for the banning of porn specifically, but to put my opinions on how to end the discussion in the first place.
No.307480
>admin posting loli
The conclusion is already reached, I've wondered for ages why the mods have been dragging their feet on the cunny question, it turns out the answer was that the admins themselves like it.
>but remember that this isn't a real democracy so even if 300 "unique" users vote to change the Wizchan logo to a giant dragon penis, it's not going to happen.
Yeah no shit, why even bother with the discussion? You're just going to follow your dick and allow it regardless.
Obviously it's best to ban porn, it adds nothing. Obviously the second best thing would be to isolate it out of mind on /b/. But I don't think you'll do either of those things.
Loli posting serves as a beacon to subversive and unwizardly elements. It invites non-wizards who want to hide behind the general population of the board to distribute legally questionable material.
No.307481
>>307480>legally questionable materialthis shit just boggles my mind. what happened in your life to bring you to this opinion? for me growing up, it was simply part of hentai. the legality of it never fucking crossed my mind, it is just a picture liek who gives a fuck
i want to call you a normalfag for not being brainwashed into being indifferent to loli. why are you even on imageboards? what online culture do you hail from
No.307483
>>307452Oh, and the "Shoved in my face guy" is also that paranoid nonogggin obsessed with "Privacy", thinking the feds will drone strike him if he visits the anime striped panty fan club without 7 proxies.
Newsflash, slug boy. Obama isn't in the Whitehouse anymore. Your fancy VPNs? NEEDLESS.
No.307485
>>307481Even as far back as 2007, 4chan had to deal with the loli question, and back there when the loli-posters got exiled, they went on to create their own special imageboards like 12chan and 7chan, in which they reportedly started sharing literal child pornography within an months. The history of imageboards is addled with internecine conflict in dealing with this issue. And every time loli-posters get yeeted, things get noticeably better.
Pedos are like jews, they're subversive elements that like to act as cultural agents. They like to transform places to be better suited to their questionable behavior. "What are you worried about goyim? Imageboards have always been a place of tolerance". They employ the same tactics, historical revisionism, slandering those they don't like, making out any criticism of their behavior comes from unfulfilled sex drives or insecurity. And when they get admins on their side, like in this thread, they'll take off the mask and start gloating.
No.307487
>>307485what board on 4chan? the generic hentai board? i don't recall it being banned on /b/
No.307488
>>307485> in which they reportedly started sharing literal child pornography within an months>in which they reportedly started sharing literal child pornography within an monthsQuite literally it was a different time.
Normalfags engage in loli content now. It's not a dogwhistle for pedos to organize before posting the real shit anymore.
You have to go out of your way to see cp on the clearnet. I know because the only time I ever see it is when it's randomly posted on 4chan, and I visit a lot of loli websites.
The modern lolicon base is so paranoid they ban 3d cg because they don't want their website getting taken down by real content being posted in between a deluge of cg content to hide it in the noise.
No.307491
>>307480>You're just going to follow your dick and allow it regardless."The sovereign produces and guarantees the situation in its totality. He has the monopoly over this last decision" (Carl Schmitt, Political Theology).
>it's best to ban porn, it adds nothing.this doesn't say anything. it's a lazy empty statement because you have no reasons other than you personally dislike it. ban the reading thread too, it adds nothing.
>Loli posting serves as a beacon to subversive and unwizardly elements.this would be borderline schizo paranoia, if you actually had anything in mind. but again, it's a cardboard cutout of a statement to give the appearance of substance when there's nothing behind it, like a high school student writing "etc." in an essay as if he still had something in mind.
>legally questionable material.when did the us become a communist country?
regardless, none of the arguments given here for hentai or loli being "unwizardly" are convincing and at best come down to "i don't like it" or "doesn't fit my idiosyncratic conception of wizardry", and at worst to muh jooo and moral panic about pedos. and allowing 3dpd again is right up there with "change the Wizchan logo to a giant dragon penis". and i think most agree that the fap thread is a failure, both the pro-hentai and the anti-hentai groups. so the most sensible measure, and which would please the most, is to have this truly be the legendary Last Fap Thread and relegate all hentai to its own board. that way everyone's happy (except for the paranoiacs and the 3dpd worshipers, but they can keep crying).
No.307493
If you like loli you're basically gay and have shit taste. Gays are pedophiles who like loli too.
No.307496
>>307491I just don't find loli attractive, it does nothing to help me fap. Every person who posts this shit online is a poser faggot trying to farm clout among other zoomers who thinks it's "chan culture" and they are le epic oldfags gatekeeping normals out by posting this shit everywhere they go. It is now as popular and obnoxious as pony assholes or furry porn and the people posting cunny aren't self-aware enough to realize how cringe what they're doing is.
I hate poser faggots like the cunny posters who can't even admit they are real pedophiles and would want to fuck a child. I bet 99% of the cunnyfags would get mogged and exposed as posers when a real pedo oldfag shows up and starts dumping CP.
No.307497
>all this text
wheres the babyfuck?????
No.307503
Personally I'm only attracted to MATURE succubi with degrees and frown lines. We need to ban posting any succubus under 34. well my birthday is in 2 days and i'll be 35 so no succubi under 35 should be allowed.
No.307505
>>307496>Every person who posts this shit online is a poser faggot trying to farm clout among other zoomers who thinks it's "chan culture" and they are le epic oldfags gatekeeping normals out by posting this shit everywhere they go.I remember being younger, and when I was working, someone asked me what I did last night, so I told them I was posting about a video game I finished on 4chan /v/.
Then some other teenager butted in and started going on about le epic 4chan and making threads about CP on /b/ and how loli and CP is everywhere on 4chan! Like it was the most exciting and cool thing.
People just all had that frozen open mouth look on their face like eels in a river, and I just felt like a knife was in my gut turning from all the second hand embarrassment.
It happened again later in life when someone bought up 4chan. Except this time it was some succubus excitedly going on about how there's cee pee everywhere on the site and how you better be careful while browsing! Same fucking embarrassment.
No.307506
>>307496>I just don't find loli attractive, it does nothing to help me fap.you people just don't read, do you? the proposal of keeping it in a separate board is precisely to account for the fact that people have different tastes, and what is sexy to some is gross to others, and in the case of loli the former is a minority and the latter the majority. (obviously if you just don't like something there's no reason to give for it, just like if i like something i also don't have reasons for it, i
just like it.)
>they are real pedophiles and would want to fuck a child.this is a crab premise replacing heterosexual and succ with pedo and child. we shouldn't just ban crabs, but also posts containing crab ideas or inspired by them.
anyway, the rest is irrelevant to the discussion or trash not worth responding to. (also, the main idea of your first paragraph contradicts that of the second one. like a succ, you have no ideas and are not interested in the discussion we're having, and only want to express your emotions.)
No.307509
>>307491Seems hypocritical for you to dismiss complaints about porn being just not wanting stuff they don't like, then your equally flippant dismissal of porn you personally don't like comes a paragraph later.
You have no principles and project that lack onto your opponents.
You also don't have a rational argument ether way.
No.307514
>>307509>Seems hypocritical for you to dismiss complaints about porn being just not wanting stuff they don't like, then your equally flippant dismissal of porn you personally don't like comes a paragraph later. no, i'm saying it should all be relegated to and only allowed in a separate board, both the one i find sexy and the one i find gross. and in there we can have separate threads for them. that way those who hate hentai aren't bothered by "coomer shit", and those who like it aren't bothered by "anti-2d nonsense" and "nofap shit", as well as not having both the shit one likes mixed in in the same thread with shit one finds gross.
No.307515
>>307509fuck, never mind lol. you meant my dismissal of 3dpd.
>You have no principlesmy principle here is being vehemently anti-3dpd.
>You also don't have a rational argument ether way.at the most fundamental level that is actually true. but it's not true that i find 3dpd gross. it still has no place here, however, and would be a mistake to re-allow it.
No.307523
>>307506Nothing I said is contradictatory you faggot. You are a butthurt poser trying to act like an oldfag 4chan pedo who thinks anyone outside your loser poser clique of zoomers gives a shit about loli anymore. You have a non-functional prefrontal cortex just like homosexuals and can't process information in a logical matter. You bring up crabs out of nowhere because you have no arguments and are a crab yourself. Get some actual fetishes and get some taste and stop posting the most popular normalfag shit you find online to try and fit in with people who don't give a shit about what you fap to.
>>307510If you like loli/cunny you are a normalfag since that's the next thing they are trying to normalize. Pedo rights are trying to be passed off as MAP (Minor Attracted Person). You're the next wave of trannies.
No.307524
I'm against the fap thread personally. We must do nofap and work out and cultivate strength
No.307526
Pedos have been chased out of 109 imageboards, yet everyone else is the problem.
No.307527
>>307524What if I work and cultivate my strenght while fapping?
Just put a hip toy on the ground then do pushup versions like hindu pushups and dive bombers as I thrust my erect dick into the toy.
The ultimat multi tasking that builds physical and occult strength according to tantric techniques.
After a few sets it feels as though I am fapping in union with the universe.
No.307528
>>307523oh look the /pol/ retard found his way not only to wizardchan but also to the fap thread to complain about something that literally does not effect him unless he was molested.
No.307529
>>307526pedos INVENTED imageboards
No.307533
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/uohhhhhhhhh-%F0%9F%98%ADlolicon is now for cringe gay redditors and twitterfags who want attention on the internet and think they're le epic pedophiles like the sjw and tumblr crod who think are winning some world war by defending niggers, succubi, and gender identities on the internet the nulolicons do the same by defending their pedophilia and degenerate religion.
Never seen people being so pissy and wanting attention so badly and using porn in order to do so
Nobody obsessed with hentai, porn, masturbation can be called a wizard.
No.307534
>>307523they're probably autistic or low iq retards who can't see they're part of another annoying group like the trannies, furries, redditors, and twitter crowd.
>>307528> literally does not effect him >effect himlol at your iq. Read a book at least before using imageboards.
No.307538
>>307533>pedophiliaThe word "Pedophile" no longer has any meaning. It used to be someone who molested a child, now it means someone who is attracted to a succubus who is under 25 while they are over 30. I don't care too much about lolicon, but what evidence is there that lolicon is a danger to children? Does lolicon consumption correlate with child molestation rates?
No.307546
>>307538The lolicon king pedos worship on Twitter quite literally says he wants to breed and get them pregnant.
>>30752You sound like a pedo rights activist where they explain to you that it's all a joke they don't actually find kids attractive only the drawings
No.307551
>>307533>>307534>>307538>>307546none of this means anything to the discussion. you guys have gone offtrack and derailed the thread.
No.307556
>>307551I'd say it does add a lot to the discussion and opens your eyes to show you that coomer "culture" that is porn, hentai, doujinshi, etc. which is just degeneracy has nothing to do with wizardry and more with crabs and failed normies obsessed with sex and rotting their brains through constant masturbation and ejaculation.
No.307557
>>307556no, it fucking doesn't. don't bring your stupid 4chan, reddit, and twitter social media drama in here. no one gives a shit about it other than you retarded 4fags and twitterers (or whatever the proper word is, other than normalnigger). literal reddit-tier nonsense.
No.307559
>>307491>this would be borderline schizo paranoiaIt was established on the /meta/ board discussion of this issue that yes, pedos were making threads on kohlchan discussing how wizchan is now pedo friendly, and how "based" this board is. Inviting people to post here.
You know this because you were likely behind those threads. The Admin can't not know this by now, so he's becoming somewhat complicit in wizchan's subversion.
>>307556There's no point trying to explain logic to pornsick coomers. It's like trying to tell a meth addict to put down the crackpipe. It's sort of pathetic how they need some obscure virgin imageboard to be a dumping place for their porn.
No.307560
>>307559>You know this because you were likely behind those threads.lmao you're literally proving the point about paranoia. i almost get the feeling that you're actually a lolicon perfidiously acting like a retard to undermine the antiloliconners, but no, you guys really are that retarded.
No.307561
>>307556>degeneracy>crabsAdmin-kun please do these normalfags using "crabs" as a scapegoat to push their normalfaggot ideologies next.
>>307559That's strange, how do you know what happening on other websites unless you're there browsing it, or part of a group that is feeding you that information?
Never thought it really as simple as cunny is sexy?
No.307578
for some reason normans get really retarded with 2d flat chests in ways that they don't with big anime titties (there's no such thing as "the hag question"). if we dig through all this barrage of rage about social media drama external to wizchan, the essence of the argument for loli being normalfag is no different than the arguments "normalfags drink soda, therefore soda drinking is normalfag", "most heterosexuals are normalfags, therefore heterosexuality is normalfag", etc.
newsflash, terminally online redditors iit, just like how most heterosexuals are normalfags (and most normalfags heterosexuals), so are also most soda drinkers, most gamers, most lolicons, most pedos (if you even care to make a distinction), etc., none of which are because of that necessary or sufficient normalfag traits.
and don't even bring that normalnigger map nonsense here. at this point you seriously need to take an emergency break from all 4chan, twitter, and reddit drama, and actually do something you enjoy, like play a video game or watch a movie, before you fully rot your brain beyond repair.
No.307581
>>307580Some of this stuff is like something right outta' a body horror film like Videodrome or someshit.
No.307582
Wizards are superior to normalfags and if they masturbate they do it privately and don't share their sexual habits or the porn they watch with the rest of wizards because that'd be contrary to the spirit of wizardry and celibacy.
It’s degenerate no matter how you look at it and retards on the internet should be shamed for it.
No.307587
>>307578>for some reason normans get really retarded with 2d flat chests in ways that they don't with big anime tittiesTo be fair there are fuck tons of retards who excessively complain about 2d and videogame big tits and male sexuality in general.
My point being, as long as someone enjoys something, there will be some asshole who will try to justify why they should have the power to take that enjoyment away from them.
I have long since stopped believing the thin reasoning the anti-fun people give. They are just assholes who want the power to make other people as miscible as they are by taking away everything they like.
It's just a extension of crab in the bucket behavor.
No.307589
absent father figures, mental illness, personality disorders, and internet addiction gets you a coomer. Funny the admin himself is a coomer nigger and tries to gain sympathy with the rest of faggots by posting himself some porn.
Funny the other group of faggots haven't posted yet considering how enthusiastic they are whenever a new fap thread is opened. Guess the mods want to pretend now.
No.307590
>>307587>To be fair there are fuck tons of retards who excessively complain about 2d and videogame big tits and male sexuality in general.true, there's the feminists, as well as the redditors who unironically call others "coomers" as an insult. sure, there really are people who fap for hours and hours on end, which sounds fun (though i wouldn't deny that developing a porn addiction wouldn't be harmful in itself, mainly in terms of the massive amount of time it takes from doing other stuff, as well as desensitizing you and sucking out the fun of enjoying simpler, more "tasteful" sexy content), but it seems like even just masturbating for 10 minutes a day and being done with it is a kind of secularized sin for them.
they're clearly winning, culturally (tho it would seem the opposite to them because of their irrational and hysterical moral panicking).
No.307591
a real wizard would never share porn with other wizards. It goes against the spirit of the site and shows that the person in question is immature, enough to be doing something an adolescent with no control of his low impulses and new to the internet would do.
It's the first sign of a kid or failed normie after all. It shows a lack of taste and decency too. you want others to see sexual organs and fluids that you just masturbated to? Nigger behaviour at its finest. But that's normal considering that zoomers are now posting black gay porn ironically with memes like the Thug shaker and other cringe nonsense. Let's not forget also how popular traps have become, it's even posted on wizchan constantly on the fap threads, and it's another meme the zoomers and faggots love.
No.307594
a real wizard would never come to wizchan in the first place because he'd be too busy watching cartoons for kids all day. he doesn't need any silly things like porn or masturbation because he instantly wizzes when a cartoon character shows her feet. everyone here is a fucking wizbaby who's probably never even wizzed to regular tv cartoons in their life.
No.307596
>>307595Someone has that one Monika video. The one with the feet, right? And the guy?
No.307598
>>307596 And the one line
"so just give in"
god help me why do I remember this
No.307602
I have immense PTSD from Monika ldoodler Rule34.
No.307603
>>307601Straight shota, yes. Gay shota, no.
No.307605
>>307602AKA, please show me some Monika Lewdoodler Rule34.
No.307606
>>307602>PTSDPenis That's Solid Diamonds?
No.307634
>>307580 [announcer]
>That's GOTTA hurt! No.307635
Was reading
https://nhentai.net/g/68597/then nutted to alice (arisu) and her mother sharing in some physical comforts
No.307639
>>307635lesbian porn is the most boring shit ever created
No.307640
>>307639dude now you know how i feel when i see dickgirls
No.307641
does anyone have that one lewdoodler monika rule34 I don't have it but it's the last fap I did
No.307642
>>307635yeah breed that loli bitch!!
No.307645
>>307644I don't know about everybody else here but I can't self-insert without seeing a penis attached to an obvious male thrusting in and out of the mouth of an obvious female.
No.307647
>>307645i dont know about you guys but i for one like big bulbous wands
No.307670
>A dedicated /fap/ board
This is something a few moderators have suggested over time and there were /meta/ discussion about it at multiple periods in the past. There are some key issues that immediately stick out to me every time:
>invites outsiders
Those who are seriously invested in porn, even just 2D, are inclined to keep tabs on anywhere and everywhere that allows it to be uploaded. Someone might make a thread for his particular fetish on several different boards and check them regularly. This is not something that Wizchan should hope for. I said in /meta/ sometime ago that most of Wizchan's users use all or most of Wizchan's boards. It's uncommon for there to be someone who uses only one particular board, and when it does come up, that board is usually /dep/ given its unique subject and safe-space rules. To make a porn board would open the gates to pornheads with less-than-wizardly outlooks on life. They would post as they do on other sites without a care to lurk beforehand or even read the rules. They'd see a porn board just like the ones they've seen a hundred times before and assume that our rules are the same as those on all the other identical hentai dump sites. The uniqueness of wizard's tastes and experiences would be drowned out by the noise of outsiders. Pornographic shills are very rampant among communities utilized mostly by young, online men. Communities such as Wizchan would be seen as fertile land for someone looking to increase awareness of their particular fetish, their website, or even their political opinions. A huge issue on 4chan is the evident forcing of certain types of content that just happes to correlate precisely to trends on large porn sites. In regards to moderative responsibility which I'll touch upon more, we'd have to get in the know with these trends to determine if something is being posted to the favor of the userbase, or to advantage of some corporation or website that believes posting certain content will lead to more profits somehow.
>Another slow board
/jp/, /games/, and /music/ were all made because they were overwhelmingly popular topics that dominated /hob/'s catalogue, drowning out unique discussions. It was an offloading of subjects that benefited both those who like and dislike those subjects. As it is now, there's really only one porn thread, and the userbase has been consistent in maintaining it as the central place to post erotic works. I don't even think any staff has had to delete an OP because the image choice of too offputting. Those who wish /lounge/ be porn-free can just [-] the new threads whenever they're made, which seems to be every couple of months now. If my previous suspicion that the board would be flooded with outsiders turned out to be false, then how much hentai could Wizardchan's userbase actually post to keep discussion active? One aspect shared by those three aforementioned splinter boards is that they're slow. Some would call it cozy to have threads that last over 7 years, but when so many threads pop up that linger forever without being bumped, it contributes to the tomblike appearance of the site that tends to discourage some users from engaging. "Dead thread, dead board, dead site. You killed Wizchan by posting too many boring threads" is something that may have been typed out before.
>Impossible to moderate (sanely)
Most of Wizchan's staff are only human. For a porn board to work, there needs to be a lot of administrative oversight to ensure that the board remains functional. It's the same oversight any other board needs, but there's a big difference in the mental tolls of making sure there's only one active thread about 80's Manga compared to the brainrot that one might develop from making sure that all of the 2D succubi in the TANNED TOMBOYs thread are in fact sun kissed and not just brown. Do Touhou loli characters need to be deleted from the Loli General and put in to the Touhou General? How big is big enough to warrant going in to the big boob thread? It doesn't sound so bad and it wouldn't take long for users to catch on and develop self-governance, but this is assuming content regulations on such a board wouldn't permit extreme fetish material. I don't want to myself, nor do I want the mods, to have to determine if the melted chocolate on a succubi's thighs is actually something for a scat thread. Staff shouldn't have to trace an image to its artist to determine if it's Anthro or Kemono. We don't want to have to actually spoiler images that are real spoilers for their parodied works. There's a lot that has to be done in order to keep any kind of image-dump board from being chaos. Even if the users did respect their own establish posting rules, there's still the task of having to sift through every new post in search of a global rule violation. Does this GIF or WEBM from a bestiality SFM contain a Nikocado gape frame at the end? We'd have to watch the whole thing to find out. Someone linked sauce, now we have to make sure it's not a malicious link. Is this image actually traced from a 3D? Is this 3DPD or 3DCG? Every file would need to be scrutinized by the staff. Is this guy SERIOUS about spanking his neighbor for being late, or is it just an ERP fantasy that we shouldn't ban for? It's more responsibly than I'd like for myself and the other mods. This brings us to the next point
>Opportunity to troll
Guys can get petty heated about the particular varieties of ecchi they don't like to see. If someone makes a thread for a specific genre of hentai, it would equally invite opposite types to be posted by trolls. This can be observed globally in the fact that when someone is banned and they really want to let us know that they hate us for it, they spam 3DPD. This trolling can be subtle too, which goes back to us staff needing to scrutinize everything that is posted to ensure it was uploaded without malice.
>a celebration of sex?
Wizchan is a site for celibate men first and foremost. Should celibates reject sexual subjects entirely? Or should they reap the rewards of modern tech allowing sexual fulfillment without any real human contact? It's a discussion that goes back to the Keivi days. The only consistent sentiment in this discussion is that neither side will ever change their mind no matter how much the other side rages.
>De-anonymizes
Even on a fast board, it's easy to piece together which posts were made by the same user based on the content and nuance of the post. Wizchan in the past has had several users called out across the site after being easily identified, usually resulting in arguments not related to the specific post being replied to, as well as general confusion from others. The capacity to track a user's posts by his unique style and interest is increased on any media-dump board because then you have the filenames, origin source, standard of artistic quality, and a bunch of other identifiers that can reveal patterns that suggest the same user. Without naming names, 3 of the unintentional namefags I know of, the little micro-celebrities of Wizchan, have all been primarily identified by their unique tastes in porn. Furthermore, the active staff are currently in a battle against mention of any usernames or profiles used by Wizchan users in their off-site accounts. Sometimes someone in a thread will be accused of being one of these users, presumably because the accuser saw similarities between the post and what that user professes in one of these unofficial off-site chatrooms. Thanks for reading this far in by the way. Wizchan doesn't even allow tripcodes and we've reluctantly had to warn some non-English natives that their posting nature is too identifiable. We're not going to jump the shark and open the floodgates to a wave of avatarfags incessantly posting their favorite pourn artist and then swimming in the attention when called out.
>Hard Dick Drive capacity
I'll fix it when I fix it
>Spam target
Wizchan uses freely available software with minimal modifications to the interface. This appeal to accessibility has left us vulnerable to spambots programmed specifically to navigate similarly formatted sites. When the captcha was re-enabled recently, several types of spam ceased entirely. The only spam that seems to remain is the malicious CSAM link spam, however, it is only in this one thread. The nature of some bots is to crawl websites for keywords relating to hentai and porn and then offer these pages to a human to spam on. An entire board for porn, with cross-board links and a whole library of threads to post in, would attract these spammers and bots and give them what they believe to be an audience of people who want to see actual CP. We're lucky that our VPN file block keeps the images they post away. Unfortunately other imageboards are still at the full mercy of this site-destroying spam so there's reason to believe that Wizchan rests on the edge of a knife and could once again be targeted like any other. Adding a porn board would put us back on the radar for porn-related scams.
>Legal issues
It's the sad reality that copywrite owners, artists, and even art sites working on behalf of either are issuing takedowns to places of high sharing volume. Additionally, while Wizchan uses an oldschool approach to hentai content moderation in that "Age doesn't matter if it's just a drawing", some parties don't agree with that sentiment and would seek to destroy us if we had too much loli on our hands. Some altchans, boorus, and 8chan spinoffs list off absolute do-not-post characters or IPs due to legal action taken against them.
>Nothing new here
Art repositories such as Pixiv are navigable in any language. Art backup boorus are tagged to the nines and stocked full with hentai that's long since been deleted by the original artist. Even Fanbox and Patreon exclusives get leaked to booru sites via same-day automation. The only thing that can be found on an imageboard porn board that can't be easily found elsewhere is edit requests and drawfag threads, the latter of which is already covered by two drawing threads here which don't prohibit porn. The former thread type usually just fills up with unfulfilled requests.
I want to say that a /fap/ board isn't entirely out of the question, but it really isn't sustainable for Wizchan right now so it's a big red NO until radical fixes and security measures are put in place. I think it would also be a slap in the face to have Uncensored Feral On Human General reach its third iteration while the dead [text] and [wiki] links still linger.
No.307671
>>307670nice mainstream twitter meme, normalnigger. Keep your absurd and boring musings around a possible coomer board to yourself. No honest wizard comes to this site to masturbate or share porn.
No.307673
>>307670so things are just going to remain the same?
No.307674
>>307673the questions of what porn exactly is allowed, in what volume, or whether porn is allowed on the site at all, are all still up for debate.
No.307675
>>307670Stop embarrassing yourself.
No.307677
>>307670>I already had my mind made up before I askedThen why did you bother asking us in the first place if our opinion didn't matter?
If a new board is out of the question then can we at the very least have two porn threads to seperate straight and gay porn without being banned or having the threads deleated.
The only reason there is a single fap thread is because for years the mods strictly enforced that only one porn thread was allowed.
And yes there were a few times when the thread had trouble because someone posted a troll OP image, such as the one with the sonic porn as the OP just to piss people off.
As for some of the concerns, wouldn't it be less of a problem if you made the board a hidden/unindexed board that only the long time uses know about, like /test/?
No.307678
>>307674I doubt it.
Admin pretty strongly implied that his mind is made up regarding what kind of porn is allowed and not allowed.
I seriously doubt he will allow for 3d humans to be posted, and probably won't make any rule changes ether.
Which sucks because rule 7 is deeply flawed in how it's used and has caused many issues and drama.
I gave my suggestions already for improvements but it's whatever.
No.307679
>>307678nothing is going to happen cause the admin is a retard who wants faggots gayposting futa, gay shota, and tranny porn in the only hentai thread that we have on the site and bothering the other straight wizards and those who use /all/ and dont keep cookies. Incompetent shitters.
No.307685
>>307677>the thread had trouble because someone posted a troll OP imageThat was a single instance, from a rampant troll spamming gay furry everywhere, and it was the crawl thread, way back in 2018.
No.307695
>>307685Happened to the fap thread too around the same time.
No.307696
>>307695Yeah, a little over 6 years ago. It was opened by one of the aforementioned users identifiable by their distinct taste in fetish porn. He drove the fap thread to the bump limit and then made a new one with bara furry gape because he was upset that users in the previous thread were complaining about him posting sweaty zebra assholes. It was a single isolated instance by someone who would go on to be banned a dozen more times. It was the same guy who did the same to the crawl thread to post his Sonic erotica. Hardly an indicator of these thread being vulnerable to abuse given that it was one guy and swiftly rectified.
No.307697
>>307696So we are moving the goal post from
>it didn't happento
>it happened once but that doesn't matterThe truth always matters.
It's about having facts straight.
Though I wonder why you are you are trying so hard to dismiss such events.
Is it because it doesn't fit a particular narrative you are trying to construct?
I wonder…
No.307704
>>307693This is insane!!!
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